₦airaland Forum

Beolly:
Obi didn't present his results that showed he won in courts.

maasoap:
Lol. You agree that their failure to merge will make APC win again. But in your little mind, that's rigging and not winning.
But if they pull resources together, they will win. And they win, that's winning and not rigging.

garfield1:
Buhari smashed atiku in 2019

yinkus6750:
They should keep on dreaming.
2027 is by the corner.
Selfish interest will never allow the merger to be successful.
The three former candidates, Atiku, Obi & Kwakeanso, should shelve their personal ambitions, and bring out a neutral credible candidate as the merged parties presidential candidate.
But is that possible ?

Lifestone:
Medicine after death. This should have been done prior to 2023 General Election. Tinubu wouldn't have become the President.
I kept saying Nigerians didn't prefer APC after the Buhari disaster, opposition parties out of greedy individuals divided their votes and handed the election to APC. Check the figures.

Jeffy1206:
Who is nnpp to give conditions? Put the votes given to LP and PDP, it's enough to eradicate any other party in Nigeria. Kwankwaso na scam and Kano president only!

Mrjaz:
If they want to merge, this is my sincere advice.

PO-PRESIDENT
KWANKWASO-VICE PRESIDENT

ATIKU-SENATE PRESIDENT

MorataFC:
Talk is cheap, who will be the presido and who will be the vice?

ValarDoharis:
Buhari did not win 2015 and 2019. It was rigged for him using incident forms. He got 7million votes from incident forms, thats more than twice the margin btw him and GEJ

garfield1:
What sort of foolish talk is this? Buhari won 2015 and 2019 polls kid.in 2015,Nigerians across all board overwhelmingly wanted him.everybody used incident forms.gej rigged massively in se SS.rivers gave 1.8 mil but same rivers since can't give up to 500k votes since.delta gave him 1.2 mil yet struggles to give 500k since.same in akwa ibom.bayesa gave him 400k yet bayelsa can't give more than 200k.SE gave him 3 mil yet se struggles to reach 2 mil since.but Kano that gave buhari 1.8 mil still have close to that amount with bvas same as Kaduna,katsina,jigawa...it means gej rigged more in 2015 but didn't have the numbers abd spread.
Atiku has never been liked in the north,how did you expect him to share votes with buhari talkless of winning? The se and SS don't particularly like atiku so how did you expect them to give him same votes gej got as their son? Oga,buhari won fair and square.

casualobserver:
The idea is dead on arrival. The merger won’t work for the same reason they split up in the 1st place. A re-emerged PDP (which is what a merger between LP,PDP and Kwakwanso is) will never give the ticket to Obi.

The difference between APC and PDP (and it’s splinter groups) is very clear. I urge you to watch the video by Yomi Awoniyi former deputy governor of Kogi state under PDP on YouTube. After 25 years in PDP (his father was a founding member). He defected to APC a few months ago in disgust at the manner with which Dino was given the ticketAa. He said he was shocked at the level of strategic planning in APC. That is what separates APC and PDP. PDP are a party who were gifted power in 1999, and have maintained power by rigging. As soon as it started to become difficult to rig (starting with the reforms under Jonatha) they started to lose their grip on power. The problem with PDP members ( the like of Atiku, Obi, Kwakwanso). Is that they still have that mentality of impunity and rigging that characterized the Obasanjo PDP era. They don’t know how to be strategic, . They don’t know how to compromise, they are not fundamentally democrats.

Whatever your views on APC respect them for their ability to compromise, align settle rifts, pacify members, give and take and act strategically . That is why they win elections. You rarely ever hear of rancour in APC. APC will find a way to pacify you and keep you sweet of you are politically relevant. APC rarely do fight to end amongst members and when rifts occur, they will settle. When PDP have internal problems it is fight to finish. PDP is a party of egos and a merger will not succeed for the same reason they split up.

PDP were handed power by the military, the culture of a true political party of varied interests in not in their DNA. APC had to work for power. I made a comment in 2015, that almost all the reasonable people in PDP have left, the ones left are those with core PDP mindset. They are the ones driven by ego and impunity. They will never agree on anything, they are the kind of people who will scatter everything if they don’t get what they want, they are the kind that jump from party to party. They are not loyal. Look at the presidential candidates in the last elections, if you examine all the PDP or ex-PDP candidates Obi, Atiku and Kwakwanso, they have they have defected as least twice. Tinubu has never left his party from day 1.

Did you see the Kogi PDP youth wing on TV celebrating the defeat of Dino and thanking INEC? I have never seen a party where from rivers to Oyo and now to Kogi, party members are celebrating their defeat. I have never seen a party where an APC president from an opposition party is settling rifts in PDP. A party where PDP governors are thanking the president for settling their internal problems. This is the same party that will be unified if they re-merge?

Watch this video. This is probably one of the most honest assessments you will hear from a politician.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlDqW3Umzb4?si=Xv9wJDdmDphTW31z

ValarDoharis:
They switched of IREV when they saw Obi winning and claimed it was a technical glitch.

Obi present the results in court but the evidence was not accepted, saying they were not front-loaded

Lifestone:
Medicine after death. This should have been done prior to 2023 General Election. Tinubu wouldn't have become the President.
I kept saying Nigerians didn't prefer APC after the Buhari disaster, opposition parties out of greedy individuals divided their votes and handed the election to APC. Check the figures.

funmijoyb:
But few months,you claimed tinubu stole his mandate

Afamed:
Stop your lies.
Obi never told any court that he won election talkless of presenting any evidence to back his claims.

Obi solely prayer to the courts were about Shetima nomination and Tinubu certificate.

No where in the court ,where Obi ever said he won any election

Lifestone:
A sound review. But what you have omitted is that people evolve, and some evolution are forced because of the rapidly changing environment that forms their new reality, that's in my mind what will bring them together. For once they seems to have gotten over the illusion of their strength and come to the reality that individually the can not defeat APC except with some other factors, this may become the motivation for merger. It worked for APC, it should work for them.

ValarDoharis:
You're arguing with emotions rather than data. In 2015, the number of incident forms were 10 million of which Bubu got 7 million.Those incident forms are riiging forms. It is what it is!

In 2019, Atiku won but Bubu was rigged in again.

yinkus6750:
They should keep on dreaming.
2027 is by the corner.
Selfish interest will never allow the merger to be successful.
The three former candidates, Atiku, Obi & Kwakeanso, should shelve their personal ambitions, and bring out a neutral credible candidate as the merged parties presidential candidate.
But is that possible ?

ValarDoharis:
Obi won, INEC rigged Tinubu and the compromised judiciary ratified the fraud! Even if they were together, they'd still be rigged out like 2019!

garfield1:
Boy,I am arguing with facts unlike you that is using emotions.using incident forms does not mean rigging.totap turnout in areas won by buhari has not reduced much but that won by pdp has reduced almost double.gej rigged kid...
Atiku is not popular abd could never have won.

Edyotu:
The election was bought from inec, every body knows APC did not win

ValarDoharis:
By the time electronic voting is implemented,
we will know if the numbers from NW is not fallacy.

ValarDoharis:
Obi presented the results of Rivers and one other state through a prof of mathematics but he was among the witness rejected.

Obi also presented all results he disputed based on ceetified copies he got from INEC. It is almost impossible to collate the entire country with 21 days and that is if INEC gives you the certified copies from day 1.

Obi won Tinubu hands dkwn and Tinubu and top APC leadership knows this. Atiku knows this!

IVORY2009:
The electionary system in Nigeria is a scum, a suitation where the sitting president determines who wins an election is no longer an election, even if the merger is achieved, the sitting president will still tell Inec what to do, as far as the federal govt still appoints the Inec chairman, he will continue to win and appoints governors, local government chairs, senators, house of representatives members etc across who are loyal to him.

agabusta:
Continue in your dreams.