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Did God Lie? by Hohenheim(m): 7:50pm On Nov 14, 2023
In Genesis chapter 2 God tells Adam not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil or he'll die

15. The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
16. And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
17. but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

But in Genesis chapter 3 verse 4 the serpent tells Eve something different

4. “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.
5. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

In verse 22 the Bible tells us that God infact did lie to Adam and Eve.

22. And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
23. So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.

So not only did our loving God have the chance to forgive his creation after being told the truth by another of his creation he decides to punish them and their so called generations for it.

He also denied Adam access to the tree of life thereby causing pain and suffering for billions of his so called creation.

But don't worry though, he sent himself in the form of his son to come and die for a problem he technically was at fault for.

Christians your god is a liar.
Lucky us though, He's as real as spiderman.

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Re: Did God Lie? by 1TrippleCee: 7:57pm On Nov 14, 2023
Yet again the serpentine spirit teying to inprete scriptures. The same way you tried to predict God through sorcery at the very start. Guess what you missed it Satan. God's provision to the sin problem is Jesus Christ

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Re: Did God Lie? by harqinhola(m): 8:16pm On Nov 14, 2023
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Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 9:55am On Nov 15, 2023
harqinhola:
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Its unfortunate christians(or theists, for that matter) are simply incapable of logical reasoning. Impossible.
Read what the OP said, then switch your brain on and think. Is he lying?

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Re: Did God Lie? by LordReed(m): 10:17am On Nov 15, 2023
I am here with my popcorn to watch the gymnastics that will soon follow.

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Re: Did God Lie? by Maynman: 10:56am On Nov 15, 2023
I wonder why the Christian god wanted Adam and Eve to be naked while He and His angels were fully clothed. Quite the curious situation with Yahweh there!

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Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 12:00pm On Nov 15, 2023
Maynman:
I wonder why the Christian god wanted Adam and Eve to be naked while He and His angels were fully clothed. Quite the curious situation with Yahweh there!
Sometimes you need some porn to liven up the place. Imagine hanging around boring angels worshipping your ass every damn second

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Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 12:03pm On Nov 15, 2023
Hohenheim:
In Genesis chapter 2 God tells Adam not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil or he'll die



But in Genesis chapter 3 verse 4 the serpent tells Eve something different



In verse 22 the Bible tells us that God infact did lie to Adam and Eve.



So not only did our loving God have the chance to forgive his creation after being told the truth by another of his creation he decides to punish them and their so called generations for it.

He also denied Adam access to the tree of life thereby causing pain and suffering for billions of his so called creation.

But don't worry though, he sent himself in the form of his son to come and die for a problem he technically was at fault for.

Christians your god is a liar.
Lucky us though, He's as real as spiderman.
Also who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Who is omniscient and knows Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit but still went ahead to plant the fruit right in the garden? Yahweh!
Do you now understand why this all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go?

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Re: Did God Lie? by Veecruz: 12:35pm On Nov 15, 2023
Hohenheim:
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In verse 22 the Bible tells us that God infact did lie to Adam and Eve...

That is why it is impossible for God to forgive people like you even after seeing that it is the tree of life that would make him live forever if he eats it.

O Lord, come avenge thyself and burn these blasphemers forever! And may their living be full of torments and failures and deaths.
Re: Did God Lie? by Veecruz: 12:41pm On Nov 15, 2023
jaephoenix:

Also who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Who is omniscient and knows Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit but still went ahead to plant the fruit right in the garden? Yahweh!
Do you now understand why this all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go?

The same way you have planted deep freezers and gas cookers and knives in your house because you want your children to be shocked and burnt to death fromthe get-go. How stupid devils are.
Re: Did God Lie? by Veecruz: 12:43pm On Nov 15, 2023
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Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 2:39pm On Nov 15, 2023
Veecruz:


That is why it is impossible for God to forgive people like you even after seeing that it is the tree of life that would make him live forever if he eats it.

O Lord, come avenge thyself and burn these blasphemers forever! And may their living be full of torments and failures and deaths.

Tee hee hee grin
Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 2:40pm On Nov 15, 2023
Veecruz:


The same way you have planted deep freezers and gas cookers and knives in your house because you want your children to be shocked and burnt to death fromthe get-go. How stupid devils are.

Yet I knew my children would get accidentally get pierced and shocked by those gadgets yet i still put them up. I must really love my children. Nice thinking DTruthSpeaker grin

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Re: Did God Lie? by Hohenheim(m): 3:26pm On Nov 15, 2023
Veecruz:


That is why it is impossible for God to forgive people like you even after seeing that it is the tree of life that would make him live forever if he eats it.

O Lord, come avenge thyself and burn these blasphemers forever! And may their living be full of torments and failures and deaths.


He can't do anything grin
He's not real bro grin

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Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 3:36pm On Nov 15, 2023
Hohenheim:


He can't do anything grin
He's not real bro grin
He doesn't know that. He's a schizophrenic living with a full blown decision of grandeur and audiovisual hallucinations

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Re: Did God Lie? by Veecruz: 7:13am On Nov 16, 2023
jaephoenix:

Yet I knew my children would get accidentally get pierced and shocked by those gadgets yet i still put them up. I must really love my children. Nice thinking DTruthSpeaker grin

Whether you add accidently or not the bottom line is that you knew.

And as we have proven many of our children have lived without being harmed as you also knew, so in the end it all falls down to the children.
Re: Did God Lie? by Veecruz: 7:22am On Nov 16, 2023
Hohenheim:


He can't do anything grin
He's not real bro grin

That's what pharoah said till God decided that it was time to deal with him.
Re: Did God Lie? by Veecruz: 7:25am On Nov 16, 2023
jaephoenix:

He doesn't know that. He's a schizophrenic living with a full blown decision of grandeur and audiovisual hallucinations

When the end comes we would see who laughs and who cries.
Re: Did God Lie? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:19am On Nov 16, 2023
That story is not to be taken literally but since you've chosen to take it that way you may clap for yourself.

Adam and Eve: first human couple to walk the earth.
Fruit in the middle of the garden: the right to set standard to govern the intelligent beings.
Serpent: snake possessed by a powerful but rebellious angel who wants to introduce politics to humans.
Eating the forbidden fruit: consenting to the idea that humans can set standards among themselves without God.
Couple nak€d: allowing the two to enjoy intimacy so they can know each other perfectly.
Driving them out of the garden: God left them to their fate never to have anything to do with them again so they grew old, got sick and died since the one who supposed to sustain them has abandoned them.

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Re: Did God Lie? by sonmvayina(m): 10:15am On Nov 16, 2023
It was all God's plan all along...

He created everything in twos...

Birth and ....death...

The Adam and Eve story is just a recast of an old Babylonian epic about how man incurred death. How he forfeited the chance to dwell indefinitely on earth...

The serpent is one of Ninghiszida or Dimuzi who where the serpent of the good and evil tress respectively..And the guard of Anu heavenly palace. They offered Adapa the food of life that would have made him immortal but he refused and Anu sent him back to earth.

He initially broke Ninlil (south wind) wings and she swore to kill him, he ran to meet EA(Enki) who told him to go to Anu who was the only one who could help, but warned him not to eat whatever was set before him. So when Ninghiszida and Dimuzi ushered him , Anu instructed them to give him the bread of life. He refused and they told him.."you will become like one of us" just like the serpent told the man in the garden...
Long story short, he lost the chance of immortality but in his case he did not eat...
Re: Did God Lie? by Maynman: 11:55am On Nov 16, 2023
sonmvayina:
It was all God's plan all along...

He created everything in twos...

Birth and ....death...

The Adam and Eve story is just a recast of an old Babylonian epic about how man incurred death. How he forfeited the chance to dwell indefinitely on earth...

If he created everything in 2, birth and death, how did man forfeit chance to dwell indefinitely on earth?
Re: Did God Lie? by Hohenheim(m): 4:49pm On Nov 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
That story is not to be taken literally but since you've chosen to take it that way you may clap for yourself.

Adam and Eve: first human couple to walk the earth.
Fruit in the middle of the garden: the right to set standard to govern the intelligent beings.
Serpent: snake possessed by a powerful but rebellious angel who wants to introduce politics to humans.
Eating the forbidden fruit: consenting to the idea that humans can set standards among themselves without God.
Couple nak€d: allowing the two to enjoy intimacy so they can know each other perfectly.
Driving them out of the garden: God left them to their fate never to have anything to do with them again so they grew old, got sick and died since the one who supposed to sustain them has abandoned them.
So we're not supposed to take the bible literally?
Re: Did God Lie? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:00pm On Nov 16, 2023
Hohenheim:

So we're not supposed to take the bible literally?
The Author suggests TEACHING so that you can understand what is written in His book {Matthew 28:20} but if you choose to read like a novel you can't see anything because you will continue saying "it doesn't make sense" whereas millions around the world are benefiting from the things they've learned in it. Isaiah 48:17-18

The particular place you're quoting is not meant to be taking literally that's why i gave you the MEANING.

So instead of concluding on what you feel it's saying form the habit of asking to understand it's message! Proverbs 2:1-5 compare to Matthew 7:7-8 smiley

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Re: Did God Lie? by sonmvayina(m): 6:01pm On Nov 16, 2023
Maynman:

If he created everything in 2, birth and death, how did man forfeit chance to dwell indefinitely on earth?

By eating of the tree of good and evil...
Re: Did God Lie? by Maynman: 6:06pm On Nov 16, 2023
sonmvayina:


By eating of the tree of good and evil...
Did he created everything in 2, birth and death?
Re: Did God Lie? by Hohenheim(m): 6:59am On Nov 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

The Author suggests TEACHING so that you can understand what is written in His book {Matthew 28:20} but if you choose to read like a novel you can't see anything because you will continue saying "it doesn't make sense" whereas millions around the world are benefiting from the things they've learned in it. Isaiah 48:17-18

The particular place you're quoting is not meant to be taking literally that's why i gave you the MEANING.

So instead of concluding on what you feel it's saying form the habit of asking to understand it's message! Proverbs 2:1-5 compare to Matthew 7:7-8 smiley
You can't have it both ways, we either take it as god's literal word or
We take it as a bunch of random texts with some meanings to it

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Re: Did God Lie? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32am On Nov 17, 2023
Hohenheim:

You can't have it both ways, we either take it as god's literal word or We take it as a bunch of random texts with some meanings to it
Your decision is not a problem after all each of us will use his brain to figure out what really matters but then instead of concluding when you can't see any benefit an intelligent person will try to find out the benefit of what is in that book.

There is no subject having to do with human behavior that you can take literally and successfully achieve anything because humans are free agents and our thinking is not the same but then those who are really intelligent still figure out how to organize their people.

God's word is full of idioms that you need to be taught it's meanings otherwise you will say "Max is a cheetah" means "Max is an animal" whereas it simply means "Max is really fast" smiley
Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 5:38pm On Nov 17, 2023
Veecruz:


Whether you add accidently or not the bottom line is that you knew.

And as we have proven many of our children have lived without being harmed as you also knew, so in the end it all falls down to the children.
Reread the story of Adam and Eve and compare it to this gibberish and see if it makes sense
Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 5:39pm On Nov 17, 2023
Veecruz:


When the end comes we would see who laughs and who cries.
You have no idea what happens 'when the end comes' neither do i. So I suggest you shut your piehole

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Re: Did God Lie? by jaephoenix(m): 5:48pm On Nov 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Your decision is not a problem after all each of us will use his brain to figure out what really matters but then instead of concluding when you can't see any benefit an intelligent person will try to find out the benefit of what is in that book.

There is no subject having to do with human behavior that you can take literally and successfully achieve anything because humans are free agents and our thinking is not the same but then those who are really intelligent still figure out how to organize their people.

God's word is full of idioms that you need to be taught it's meanings otherwise you will say "Max is a cheetah" means "Max is an animal" whereas it simply means "Max is really fast" smiley
So how do you know the passages that can be literally or idiomatically translated? And how did u know them?
Re: Did God Lie? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:43am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

So how do you know the passages that can be literally or idiomatically translated? And how did u know them?
By placing such passages beside God's plan (will) if you know that a man can't be a cheetah then you should know that whatever is written in the Bible which doesn't correlate with God's will is not to be taken literally! smiley

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Re: Did God Lie? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:31am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

So how do you know the passages that can be literally or idiomatically translated? And how did u know them?

Just has a map has keys to help one understand the meaning of signs and symbols ln the map
The Bible also has keys to help sincere readers know which one is literal, prophetic , parables... Some just take everything literally tho

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