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Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by ribbit: 2:28am On Sep 12, 2015
They say, god has plan(s) for everyone and his plans are perfect and unalterable, then what exactly is point of praying?
for god to change his mind?
are we saying a perfect being like god plans suck that he needs to change his mind?

e.g, let's say, if it's god plan for man to be rich at the age of 40, this plan cannot changed, but this same man will be moving from mountains to valleys and from churches to mosques praying and calling down fire just to be rich before 40. what exactly is the point when no matter what he does, he has to clock 40 before he gets rich.?

let's use jesus as an example, god plan's for him to die and rise up after 3 days. few days before his crucifixion,he prayed fervently day and night to god to move the cup over him so he won't have to die, but still the plan didn't change.. so what exactly is the point of all the prayers when he could have enjoyed himself to the fullest before he dies.

and for those that will say "to communicate with god" what exactly do you communicate in this prayer

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by fromnigeria(m): 3:10am On Sep 12, 2015
Ehhh
No just carry your own come here. If it is, keep it to yourself, I personally, does not need it.
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by IamAtribalist: 3:22am On Sep 12, 2015
cool
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by mecuzee(m): 3:40am On Sep 12, 2015
Become a new creation by receiving Jesus first then you'll will be awaken to the Fatherhood of God. Read a book by Kenneth E Hagin - Don't Blame God as it answers your questions perfectly!
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by gunpoint(m): 4:53am On Sep 12, 2015
grin grin grin grin grin grin
There is some method to your madness bro
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by Pheals(f): 5:09am On Sep 12, 2015
Op if prayer is useless to u stay cool, y not sleep
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by wordcat(m): 6:09am On Sep 12, 2015
God idea or belief in God is becoming funny and absurd every new day.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by Nobody: 6:15am On Sep 12, 2015
Prayer is a strategy whereby you do nothing but can rationalize in your mind you performed an action.

E.g. Your dog's drowning; you immediately start praying instead of jumping to action. After praying for an hour the dog dies eventually. You're now free to write the dog off saying it was destined to die either way since God did nothing about your prayer.

That's what the whiteman anticipated and it still works today. They create solutions to problems and sell them to us who've tried to no avail praying them away.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by menesheh(m): 6:17am On Sep 12, 2015
mecuzee:
Become a new creation by receiving Jesus first then you'll will be awaken to the Fatherhood of God. Read a book by Kenneth E Hagin - Don't Blame God as it answers your questions perfectly!

Your comment has nothing to do with whether prayers get answered or not.
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by delishpot: 6:29am On Sep 12, 2015
Because in the Bible God changed his mind about people's situation after they prayed to him. It is taught that God can see the emmotion or act of a man and out of compassion or anger cha nge the life of tbe man.
Jabez, Hannah, solomon, David and Esther, etc are a few examples from the bible
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by Weah96: 7:55am On Sep 12, 2015
delishpot:
Because in the Bible God changed his mind about people's situation after they prayed to him. It is taught that God can see the emmotion or act of a man and out of compassion or anger cha nge the life of tbe man.
Jabez, Hannah, solomon, David and Esther, etc are a few examples from the bible

People who know the end from the beginning NEVER change their minds. The God must have a blind spot. Or his plan was always to act like he was changing his mind.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by delishpot: 7:58am On Sep 12, 2015
Weah96:


People who know the end from the beginning NEVER change their minds. The God must have a blind spot. Or his plan was always to act like he was changing his mind.


Well, its what people believe.
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by Weah96: 8:09am On Sep 12, 2015
delishpot:



Well, its what people believe.


Well, those people are missing the details. Do you know of the multi verse theory? God must create a new universe every time it tries to change the unchangeable.

If you stand in front of a lorry traveling at 130 kmph, you will be crushed. For a God to change that possibility, another UNIVERSE must be created. In the new universe, you get to testify in church and win souls in the process. Meanwhile in the the old one, your body parts are strewn everywhere.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by delishpot: 8:15am On Sep 12, 2015
Weah96:



Well, those people are missing the details. Do you know of the multi verse theory? God must create a new universe every time it tries to change the unchangeable.

If you stand in front of a lorry traveling at 130 kmph, you will be crushed. For a God to change that possibility, another UNIVERSE must be created. In the new universe, you get to testify in church and win souls in the process. Meanwhile in the the old one, your body parts are strewn everywhere.


Oh well, if he creates a new safe universe every second or minute its not bad at all. If he can create it then its okay by me. But for real sha, I do not know 100% how God works. I just mentioned what people believe even traditionalists.
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by ribbit: 9:30am On Sep 12, 2015
charix:
Prayer is a strategy whereby you do nothing but can rationalize in your mind you performed an action.

E.g. Your dog's drowing; you immediately start praying instead of jumping to action. After praying for an hour the dog dies eventually. You're now free to write the dog off saying it was destined to die eitherway since God did nothing about your prayer.

That's what the whiteman anticipated and it still works today. They create solutions to problems and sell them to us who've tried to no avail praying them away.
nice one
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by kevoh(m): 10:11am On Sep 12, 2015
Below picture shows how prayer works:

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by kevoh(m): 10:12am On Sep 12, 2015
Make a choice cheesy

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by kevoh(m): 10:15am On Sep 12, 2015
And finally the results are:

Human Proactive actions(a.k.a Science) 1 vs Prayers 0

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by emrain(m): 12:44pm On Sep 12, 2015
ribbit:
They say, god has plan(s) for everyone and his plans are perfect and unalterable, then what exactly is point of praying?
for god to change his mind?
are we saying a perfect being like god plans suck that he needs to change his mind?

e.g, let's say, if it's god plan for man to be rich at the age of 40, this plan cannot changed, but this same man will be moving from mountains to valleys and from churches to mosques praying and calling down fire just to be rich before 40. what exactly is the point when no matter what he does, he has to clock 40 before he gets rich.?

let's use jesus as an example, god plan's for him to die and rise up after 3 days. few days before his crucifixion,he prayed fervently day and night to god to move the cup over him so he won't have to die, but still the plan didn't change.. so what exactly is the point of all the prayers when he could have enjoyed himself to the fullest before he dies.

and for those that will say "to communicate with god" what exactly do you communicate in this prayer

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

lemme comment my reserve. grin
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by plaetton: 2:02pm On Sep 12, 2015
Pheals:
Op if prayer is useless to u stay cool, y not sleep

Because his praying neighbours would not allow him to get a good night sleep.
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by plaetton: 2:05pm On Sep 12, 2015
charix:
Prayer is a strategy whereby you do nothing but can rationalize in your mind you performed an action.

E.g. Your dog's drowing; you immediately start praying instead of jumping to action. After praying for an hour the dog dies eventually. You're now free to write the dog off saying it was destined to die eitherway since God did nothing about your prayer.

That's what the whiteman anticipated and it still works today. They create solutions to problems and sell them to us who've tried to no avail praying them away.

Prayer is also a form of spiritual masturbation, where, in this case, you're performing a verbal intercourse with your fantasy being.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by Nobody: 2:30pm On Sep 12, 2015
plaetton:


Prayer is also a form of spiritual masturbation, where, in this case, you're performing a verbal intercourse with your fantasy being.

Lmaoooo

I'm dead. grin grin grin

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by Scholar8200(m): 2:32pm On Sep 12, 2015
Op says prayer is meaningless and the Queen of Scotland says of John Knox,
"I fear the prayers of John Knox more than all the armies of England"

It will be fatal for a Royalty of that standing to say this in the audience of her courtiers if the sentence was comparing a nought with reality!

Op says prayer is a waste of time yet by prayer, David Brainerd transformed a community of drunken, fetish and ritualistic Indians into an assembly of praying saints!

Op says prayer is a waste of time yet George Muller ran an orphanage successfully! His resources?Faith in God and prayer!

Op opines rather opinionatedly that prayer is a waste of time yet Elijah Letwaba prayed all night for a community experiencing severe drought and the rains poured the next morning! (he had prophesied earlier and the villagers were on the look out to see if he was true or false!)


Op says prayer is a waste of time yet the record of WW2 (Hand on the Helm{pgs 4-5} by Katherine Pollard Carter) indicates the potency of the 9 'o' Clock prayer by all citizens of the British Isles. In fact, a captured Nazi officer alluded to it!

I could go on and on!

But do we blame the op? Yes and No! Yes because he appears to have jumped into his conclusion without an objective fact finding mission! No because the preponderance of what vooks called, 'canned' prayer (who still claims promises importunately today?) has done its damage! Why? faith comes by the Word and is the only means by which we can touch/move the Supernatural or displace the preternaturals; no amount of flesh induced aggression, shouting, crying etc can substitute true faith in prayer.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by donswaga: 2:32pm On Sep 12, 2015
Nice
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by sportsmaster(m): 2:50pm On Sep 12, 2015
Thank God for revelation.
2 cor4:1-6.
1cor2:7-14 .
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by God2man(m): 3:45pm On Sep 12, 2015
A time is coming that you will not have any other option than to pray.

God2man.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by CaptainJune: 6:26pm On Sep 12, 2015
Hahahaha. Jeromejnr, have you seen this thread? My belle wan burst wit laughter here o. Sometimes I wonder if there is an end in sight to this display of ignorance? grin

So prayer is now useless because God's plans now translates to His bounden duty towards you whether you express a desire for it or not. It now justifies your PRIDE of expectation and INGRATITUDE since, in your opinion, it is God's plan, not yours, which He must fulfill and, as such, prayer is redundant. It means you can be lazy or irresponsible and still be rich and great - God's plans to the rescue. God is your robot that cleans your mess, tidies your bedroom, cooks for you and bathes you since it is His plan for you to be clean, to have a clean environment, and be well fed.

Scholar8200 and God2man, nice contributions.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by Jeromejnr(m): 6:48pm On Sep 12, 2015
CaptainJune:
Hahahaha. Jeromejnr, have you seen this thread? My belle wan burst wit laughter here o. Sometimes I wonder if there is an end in sight to this display of ignorance? grin

So prayer is now useless because God's plans now translates to His bounden duty towards you whether you express a desire for it or not. It now justifies your PRIDE of expectation and INGRATITUDE since, in your opinion, it is God's plan, not yours, which He must fulfill and, as such, prayer is redundant. It means you can be lazy or irresponsible and still be rich and great - God's plans to the rescue. God is your robot that cleans your mess, tidies your bedroom, cooks for you and bathes you since it is His plan for you to be clean, to have a clean environment, and be well fed.

Scholar8200 and God2man, nice contributions.


My brother, From this, I think I have seen why most people I see every day that claim to be Christians are living such powerless and defeated lives. Their concept and version of God is very ludicrous.

Chai! Na wa o. Sometimes you wonder if people can read or not. Are the scriptures that hard to understand?

The ignorance I see here is extremely profound. Instead of them to read anointed books to aid their understanding, they won't.

SMH.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by ribbit: 9:10pm On Sep 12, 2015
CaptainJune:
Hahahaha. Jeromejnr, have you seen this thread? My belle wan burst wit laughter here o. Sometimes I wonder if there is an end in sight to this display of ignorance? grin

So prayer is now useless because God's plans now translates to His bounden duty towards you whether you express a desire for it or not. It now justifies your PRIDE of expectation and INGRATITUDE since, in your opinion, it is God's plan, not yours, which He must fulfill and, as such, prayer is redundant. It means you can be lazy or irresponsible and still be rich and great - God's plans to the rescue. God is your robot that cleans your mess, tidies your bedroom, cooks for you and bathes you since it is His plan for you to be clean, to have a clean environment, and be well fed.

Scholar8200 and God2man, nice contributions.

meaningless contribution ..

I didn't ask God to have a plan for me. Nobody does. He didn't give me the free will to chose my plan.. Maybe if he had done that, prayer would have been necessary.
He automatically have plans for everyone, therefore, your desire is totally meaningless since he is not gonna change his plan anyway.

Now counter the post instead of using sarcasm to say meaningless things.

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by CaptainJune: 9:51pm On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


My brother, From this, I think I have seen why most people I see every day that claim to be Christians are living such powerless and defeated lives. Their concept and version of God is very ludicrous.

Chai! Na wa o. Sometimes you wonder if people can read or not. Are the scriptures that hard to understand?

The ignorance I see here is extremely profound. Instead of them to read anointed books to aid their understanding, they won't.

SMH.



hahahaha. I tell you. Imagine, their reasoning of the ways of God is beyond absurd. You begin to wonder whether their criticism spring from the same Bible you know or if they have mistaken God for someone else.... In all, it is just unhearably laughable.
Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by CaptainJune: 10:13pm On Sep 12, 2015
ribbit:
meaningless contribution ..

I didn't ask God to have a plan for me. Nobody does. He didn't give me the free will to chose my plan.. Maybe if he had done that, prayer would have been necessary.
He automatically have plans for everyone, therefore, your desire is totally meaningless since he is not gonna change his plan anyway.

Now counter the post instead of using sarcasm to say meaningless things.

You talk as if God placed a rope around your neck and is dragging you towards the fulfillment of His plans for you even though you hate His plans for you, as if He stops you from carrying out your own plans for your life, as if His plans for anyone nullify their power of free will to choose or reject them, as if God will FORCE His plans on you, as if His plans for you are independent of your desire and active participation to see them come to fruition, as if knowing how to spell God equates with knowing who He is....

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Re: Praying Is Meaningless And A Total Waste Of Time! by ribbit: 10:25pm On Sep 12, 2015
CaptainJune:


You talk as if God placed a rope around your neck and is dragging you towards the fulfillment of His plans for you even though you hate His plans for you, as if He stops you from carrying out your own plans for your life, as if His plans for anyone nullify their power of free will to choose or reject them, as if God will FORCE His plans on you, as if His plans for you are independent of your desire and active participation to see them come to fruition, as if knowing how to spell God equates with knowing who He is....

it seems you have problem with comprehension ..

If they say something is automatic and cannot be changed . it means you are stuck with it, it is forced on you by god .. A billion prayers won't change his plans ..

We all know even the plans you are making is already gods plan so what is there to nullify ?


Lemme make it simple for you..
Let's say I'm your boss at work, and I have plans for every worker that works under me and no one can change these plans even if they desire or beg me from now till next week .. And my plan for you is sack you after a certain period of time and then make you rich .. What is the point of you wishing and begging when its not gonna change any thing ? I already forced my plan on you and nothing is gonna change it ..

It's not so hard to understand now .

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