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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by forgiveness: 7:09pm On Nov 17, 2023
Christistruth03:


The same age as the Oba of Benin dynasty
It was after the first Oba of Ikorodu left his brother Oranmiyan in Benin that he founded Ikorodu
He had followed Oranmiyan to Benin from Ile Ife

I think you are mixing things up. Ikorodu is an offshoot of Sagamu. In fact, it's the farmland of Sagamu people.
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 7:21pm On Nov 17, 2023
forgiveness:


I think you are mixing things up. Ikorodu is an offshoot of Sagamu. In fact, it's the farmland of Sagamu people.

The Remo People had at least 30 Towns and sometimes War had them fleeing back and forth between the Towns but have no doubt Ikorodu is an Ancient Remo Settlement
Though it first started out as a Farm Oko Odu

Sagamu is a recent Remo Town founded around the Time of Ibadan and Abeokuta

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by SIRTee15: 7:27pm On Nov 17, 2023
Abagworo:
But in truth Lagos culture and ethnic composition is distinguishable from proper Yoruba because Slave returnees, other Nigerians, Europeans, non-Yoruba Egun natives, Asians and other factors are in the mix. It is what it is and shouldn't be a big issue

Your statement would have made sense if u included Lagos Yoruba native.
There are Yoruba people who are native to Lagos. That's what you and that gbadebo guy don't understand.

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by WorldRichest: 7:40pm On Nov 17, 2023
plaindealer:
He even managed to diss and throw Awolowo under the bus.


What do you expect from a Brazilian slave? or is Vivour-Rhodes a Yoruba name? Slaves will always behave like one.

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Jagaban2012: 7:51pm On Nov 17, 2023
I blame some of the foolish Yoruba people who are still following this slowpoke called Chinedu...his intention towards Yoruba people supposing he became the governor could have been bad...
Because his mother has brainwashed him about Yoruba people...and surprisingly he wants to rule Yoruba people....
And this is what you get when you marry outside of your tribe....and the children are been indoctrinated....
I was born and bred in Lagos State...and I can tell you for free that the most populous language in Lagos State is Yoruba language....
It is high time the traditional rulers in Lagos State wake up from their slumber to this occasion that is about to hit them. like a Tsunami...

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by malcom1X: 8:06pm On Nov 17, 2023
Christistruth03:
Some People are just deliberately trying to Create Problems for Yorubas in Lagos

It cannot stop Lagos from being 100% Yorubaland

Lekki where Gbadebo Rhodes lives is even Ijebuland

Lagos Island that he is from belongs to the Awori Yorubas

His Creole Ancestors were Settlers there

Is savage a Yoruba name?
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by malcom1X: 8:10pm On Nov 17, 2023
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 8:11pm On Nov 17, 2023
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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 8:13pm On Nov 17, 2023
malcom1X:


Is savage a Yoruba name?




It is a well known Yoruba Saro surname along with williams Phillips Thomas Johnson Macaulay etc
They full Abeokuta
It was the late 18 th Century Ifole Riots that made some of them start moving to Lagos
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by WorldRichest: 8:16pm On Nov 17, 2023
Christistruth03:





It is a well known Yoruba Saro surname along with williams Phillips Thomas Johnson Macaulay etc
They full Abeokuta

They are called Saro for a reason. They are not Omo Oduduwa. They were dumped at the Lagos Port by the Europeans and Americans at the end of the Slave Trade. They have lived among us and been absolved into our Culture. Anyone of them that behaves like a bastard will be told his forefather's origin

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 8:20pm On Nov 17, 2023
WorldRichest:


They are called Saro for a reason. They are not Omo Oduduwa. They were dumped at the Lagos Port by the Europeans and Americans at the end of the Slave Trade. They have lived among us and been absolved into our Culture. Anyone of them that behaves like a bastard will be told his forefather's origin

Do you know the Funniest thing
Most of them were Overseas returned Yoruba enslaved people many of them were even if noble birth that has been captured in War and Sold

For example Oba Haastrup of Ilesha was a returnee Saro as well as an Ijesha Prince

He became the Oba of Ilesha after he returned from Slavery
Bode Thomas was from a Noble Oyo Family and was a high Chief of Oyo
He was a Saro I believe his father was an Oyo Prince who was a Son of Alaafin Abiodun who returned from Slavery

There was another Oba who was a returnee Saro ex Slaves

The Coker Family of Abeokuta are from the Egba Royal family

Do you get the drift

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Dsimmer: 8:23pm On Nov 17, 2023
WorldRichest:


They are called Saro for a reason. They are not Omo Oduduwa. They were dumped at the Lagos Port by the Europeans and Americans at the end of the Slave Trade. They have lived among us and been absolved into our Culture. Anyone of them that behaves like a bastard will be told his forefather's origin

Several of the returnees are Yoruba though. Ajayi Crowther was a Yoruba man for example and had even translated several books into Yoruba language when no one could at that time. All what Yoruba had was spoken literature until Ajayi Crowther started translating it into written Yoruba form. He knew where he came from. He was from a noble Oyo family.

However some of the returnees didn't know where they came from but were accommodated. That's the case of Vivour considering he doesn't know where he came from till now and doesn't even know Lagos is Eko which is a Yoruba name. A typical Nigerian should even know Eko na. Aside the fact that Rhodes vivour isn't a Nigerian, he can be quite dumb because just look at wetin he dey talk sef. And he needs to go find something doing first before even contesting for a councilor. Politics isn't a career.

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by malcom1X: 8:26pm On Nov 17, 2023
chopnaira:

If you can, you should try the Egunsi with Ebiripo instead. Ebiripo is another Ijebu swallow. It's not as common as the ikokore.

Egusi is an Igbo name.

Facts.

There was no egusi in the old Yoruba food. It was not mentioned in any history book.
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 8:43pm On Nov 17, 2023
malcom1X:


Egusi is an Igbo name.

Facts.

There was no egusi in the old Yoruba food. It was not mentioned in any history book.

I come in Peace

Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Raskimonojendor: 8:43pm On Nov 17, 2023
malcom1X:


Egusi is an Igbo name.

Facts.

There was no egusi in the old Yoruba food. It was not mentioned in any history book.
Here we go again.

Egusi is 100 percent Yoruba. It's was even mentioned in IFA corpus as one of Obatala's offerings.

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by malcom1X: 8:53pm On Nov 17, 2023
Christistruth03:


I come in Peace

Quoting from Quora 😂😂😂

Let me quote for you and you show me where there is a mention of soup anywhere here.

Egusi itself is an igbo word.


Egunsi" is a term that originates from the Yoruba people of Nigeria, specifically within the context of Yoruba religious and spiritual beliefs. In Yoruba cosmology and spirituality, "Egun" generally refers to the ancestral spirits or the collective spirits of deceased family members.

The concept of "Egunsi" represents reverence for and communication with deceased ancestors. It encompasses rituals, offerings, and ceremonies dedicated to honoring and seeking the guidance and protection of one's ancestors. Offerings such as food, drinks, and prayers are made to the Egunsi as a way of maintaining a connection with the spiritual realm and seeking the ancestral spirits' blessings and assistance in various aspects of life.

These practices are deeply rooted in Yoruba culture and traditional religious beliefs, and they are known for their significance in upholding and honoring ancestral traditions. Egunsi practices also play an integral role in Yoruba religious ceremonies and cultural expressions, reflecting the importance of ancestral reverence within the Yoruba community.

It's important to note that Yoruba spirituality is part of a rich and diverse religious tradition that has been influenced by centuries of cultural practices, and it continues to play a significant role in the religious and cultural identity of the Yoruba people, both in Nigeria and within the Yoruba diaspora around the world.
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by malcom1X: 8:56pm On Nov 17, 2023
Christistruth.

Even the people in villages in south west do not call it egusi.

Don't mix Egusi as a food with Egunsi which is an offering
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Raskimonojendor: 9:00pm On Nov 17, 2023
Christistruth03:


I come in Peace
Proof it was borrowed from the Yoruba

Loan word
Yor (Egusi)

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by malcom1X: 9:01pm On Nov 17, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Here we go again.

Egusi is 100 percent Yoruba. It's was even mentioned in IFA corpus as one of Obatala's offerings.

Egunsi refers to a type of Yoruba deity or spirit in the traditional religion of the Yoruba people of Nigeria and Benin. In Yoruba cosmology, Egunsi are considered to be cosmic forces that represent the power of the ancestors and are responsible for bringing about transformation and rebirth. They are often associated with the forces of nature, such as thunder and lightning.

Egunsi originated from the Yoruba ethnic group in Nigeria and has been an important part of their religious and cultural traditions for centuries. The worship of Egunsi is still practiced by many Yoruba people today, both in Africa and in diaspora communities around the world.
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Raskimonojendor: 9:02pm On Nov 17, 2023
malcom1X:


Egunsi refers to a type of Yoruba deity or spirit in the traditional religion of the Yoruba people of Nigeria and Benin. In Yoruba cosmology, Egunsi are considered to be cosmic forces that represent the power of the ancestors and are responsible for bringing about transformation and rebirth. They are often associated with the forces of nature, such as thunder and lightning.

Egunsi originated from the Yoruba ethnic group in Nigeria and has been an important part of their religious and cultural traditions for centuries. The worship of Egunsi is still practiced by many Yoruba people today, both in Africa and in diaspora communities around the world.
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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Raskimonojendor: 9:04pm On Nov 17, 2023
Incase anyone was wondering what Ibo dictionary I used. It is:

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by malcom1X: 9:09pm On Nov 17, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

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You can laugh all you want. I'm trying to let you know that Egusi as a food is different from Egunsi which is a form of worship
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Raskimonojendor: 9:15pm On Nov 17, 2023
malcom1X:


You can laugh all you want. I'm trying to let you know that Egusi as a food is different from Egunsi which is a form of worship
Okay. Noted.

I am just hearing of Egunsi being a god that is worshiped for the first time. And I know a bit about the IFA tradition. I can't also find that in any of my Yoruba dictionaries of Egunsi being a god or deity. Not even the very old ones from the 1950s.
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by forgiveness: 9:36pm On Nov 17, 2023
Christistruth03:


Do you know the Funniest thing
Most of them were Overseas returned Yoruba enslaved people many of them were even if noble birth that has been captured in War and Sold

For example Oba Haastrup of Ilesha was a returnee Saro as well as an Ijesha Prince

He became the Oba of Ilesha after he returned from Slavery
Bode Thomas was from a Noble Oyo Family and was a high Chief of Oyo
He was a Saro I believe his father was an Oyo Prince who was a Son of Alaafin Abiodun who returned from Slavery

There was another Oba who was a returnee Saro ex Slaves

The Coker Family of Abeokuta are from the Egba Royal family

Do you get the drift

The Coke's are now afiobaje.

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 9:39pm On Nov 17, 2023
forgiveness:


The Coke's are now afiobaje.

Thank you for the update
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by ILoveNG: 10:13pm On Nov 17, 2023
Igbos and their love for yoruba culture grin
See them arguing yoruba history with history owners

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 3:38pm On Nov 18, 2023
Christistruth03:



That was the Map of Lagos and the Western Region at Independence
Ikeja then included practically the entire Sea Coast of Lagos City

The entire Western Region including Ikeja Badagry Epe Ikorodu
We’re under Awolowo
Only Lagos Island where the dot is was under the FG

At independence Lagos Island was handed back to Awolowo by the British because it was Yorubaland
Awolowo permitted the FG to continue to operate from there

Mumu .
How developed was Ikeja and co under the western region?
Awolowo didn't develop Ikeja
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 11:36am On Nov 21, 2023
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Mumu .
How developed was Ikeja and co under the western region?
Awolowo didn't develop Ikeja



It was Awolowo that built ikeja and it’s Surroundings out of a Thick jungle that was Swarming with Antelopes, Monkeys , Leopards, , Buffaloes Gorillas And Elephants
Into the Commercial Capital of the Western Region , Under Awolowo ikeja Division included all the lagos Coast outside lagos Island

The Dream that made lagos into an Economic Power was awolowo’s Dream and in 1962 awolowo was Jailed for that Dream

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 2:13pm On Nov 21, 2023
Christistruth03:




It was Awolowo that built ikeja and it’s Surroundings out of a Thick jungle that was Swarming with Antelopes, Monkeys , Leopards, , Buffaloes Gorillas And Elephants
Into the Commercial Capital of the Western Region , Under Awolowo ikeja Division included all the lagos Coast outside lagos Island

The Dream that made lagos into an Economic Power was awolowo’s Dream and in 1962 awolowo was Jailed for that Dream


There was nothing to Ikeja in 1962. It was another Ikenne till it was annexed to Lagos. Awolowo my foot
Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 2:28pm On Nov 21, 2023
InyinyaAgbaOku:


There was nothing to Ikeja in 1962. It was another Ikenne till it was annexed to Lagos. Awolowo my foot

You don't even know the History of Lagos

Ikenne is still in Ogun State and Ikeja was not annexed but it included Lagos State created in by Gowon with Awolowo's full permission in 1967 by which time Ikeja was already a Smash hit Super Star and huge Success
All Glory be to God Almighty
Ikeja was built to be the Commercial Capital of the Western Region and all it's Industrial Estates were also built by Awolowo
Even Lekki was in Awolowo's Western Region

Even Lagos Island was handed to Awolowo at Independence
he only allowed it to continue to be the Capital and Seat of the National Govt

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Re: Gbadebo Rhodes-vivour::Lagos Culture Is Different From Yoruba Culture. Video by Christistruth03: 2:34pm On Nov 21, 2023
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