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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:30am On Nov 19, 2023
charlesemeka85:
I am not against him been invited but telling me that he is the messiah in midfield that we hv been waiting for to lift the team I disagree
We don't need any enthusiastic fan to paint such a picture for us. Nwakali was at the last Afcon. We sabi am.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:31am On Nov 19, 2023
Joebie:
Amuneke has coached in different capacity. May not have won anything besides the U17. But you cannot compare that with someone who only has NPFL experience. I will not rate any coach wirh NPFL experience ALONE. That league is riddled with poor officiating. Things may have changed a bit now though.

you said you don’t want NPFL coach you also said Finidi won’t be a bad idea, isn’t that contradictory? Or has Finidi ever done any job outside NPFL?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:36am On Nov 19, 2023
Mujtahida:

We don't need any enthusiastic fan to paint such a picture for us. Nwakali was at the last Afcon. We sabi am.
even the Alhassan I saw against Porto in the UCL last week will do better than nwakali. If not for anything The Antwerp midfielder covers more ground and he is decent on the ball. He can work for 90mins plus without gassing out.

Another that is highly underrated here is onyedika who is one of the finest in the Belgian league but I believe soon many eyes go open where the boy dey

What about Ifeanyi Mathew doing superbly well with high flying FC Zurich in the Swiss league?

If nwakali is invited who are they expecting him to bench in our midfield? For me I won’t trade a hard worker like Onyeka for lazy and light weight nwakali 🤣

The only player I believe he can take his place in the team currently is Aribo only if a player like Ifeanyi Mathew or Alhassan isn’t invited

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:36am On Nov 19, 2023
charlesemeka85:
if you watched the game against Lesotho you will notice that when ever the team is with the ball especially in midfield Onyeka and iwobi lack numbers to pass to, either they go sideways or the pass back. The front 4 are always pushing further the pitch and they are easily close marked by the opponents back 4 including their DM making it 5 against 4

If we hv more bodies in the midfield then the midfielders can easily draw the opponents out by passing the ball around and by doing so will destabilize the opponents low defensive block creating channels for our two wingers and striker to run into. Even having more bodies in midfield will afford our fullbacks to bomb forward confidently when the need arise

Jpes no be coach abeg
The man na waste. Rohr is better than him and any coach Rohr is better than is beyond awful.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:36am On Nov 19, 2023
Damioduso1:
Cote D'Ivoire beating Seychelles by 9-0 tonight and we are in the same group with the ivorian next year afcon . I don't think the super eagles are ready to do it again come next year with yesterday performance against Lesotho
every game with its own motivation but I understand you sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:38am On Nov 19, 2023
Mujtahida:

The man na waste. Rohr is better than him and any coach Rohr is better than is beyond awful.
Rohr is miles better. No be una want attacking football wey mk Nff rush go hire jpes?🤣🤣🤣🤣

Attacking football no be by when you deploy 10 attackers at once 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:38am On Nov 19, 2023
Odunayaw:
cheesy But y'all will turn around and say flogging Sao Tome is nothing.

NEPA light no fluctuate reach this thread
these people wan use nonsense take wound me 😆

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:39am On Nov 19, 2023
charlesemeka85:
even the Alhassan I saw against Porto in the UCL last week will do better than nwakali. If not for anything The Antwerp midfielder covers more ground and he is decent on the ball. He can work for 90mins plus without gassing out.

Another that is highly underrated here is onyedika who is one of the finest in the Belgian league but I believe soon many eyes go open where the boy dey

What about Ifeanyi Mathew doing superbly well with high flying FC Zurich in the Swiss league?

If nwakali is invited who are they expecting him to bench in our midfield? For me I won’t trade a hard worker like Onyeka for lazy and light weight nwakali 🤣

The only player I believe he can take his place in the team currently is Aribo only if a player like Ifeanyi Mathew or Alhassan isn’t invited
If I have my way, I will invite him and play him. Make I see wetin others are seeing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:43am On Nov 19, 2023
Mujtahida:

If I have my way, I will invite him and play him. Make I see wetin others are seeing.
and play him 90mins mk em get enough time so em go do magic mk we see 🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:43am On Nov 19, 2023
charlesemeka85:
Rohr is miles better. No be una want attacking football wey mk Nff rush go hire jpes?🤣🤣🤣🤣

Attacking football no be by when you deploy 10 attackers at once 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was noncommittal with the appointment of Peseiro. Na journeyman jare.

I've come to the point where for me if we cannot hire first class or at least a quality coach, instead of hiring these jaded oyibo coaches, let's hire our local coaches abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:44am On Nov 19, 2023
charlesemeka85:
and play him 90mins mk em get enough time so em go do magic mk we see 🤣
Before them dodge say he wasn't given full time to display his magic 😂😂😂

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:46am On Nov 19, 2023
joelsteron:


I mentioned Amuneke because after Pep gardiola and finidi he is Nigeria next Klop. Some will even say his combination of Sia Sia will be bomb. wink

People clamouring for local coach don't really watch football except LiveScore and newspaper.
personally, I don’t want a local coach but instead of using scarce forex to pay a grade D European coach let’s kuku employ a local coach that can achieve same result or even better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:46am On Nov 19, 2023
Mujtahida:

I was noncommittal with the appointment of Peseiro. Na journeyman jare.

I've come to the point where for me if we cannot hire first class or at least a quality coach, instead of hiring these jaded oyibo coaches, let's hire our local coaches abeg
my problem with our local coaches is that they too like bribe and favoritism

Also they should get themselves busy by taking up jobs in the local league and African leagues/national teams. Their good work will make a statement/case for them

Keshi got his chance because of the good work he did with Togo 🇹🇬

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:46am On Nov 19, 2023
Mujtahida:

Before them dodge say he wasn't given full time to display his magic 😂😂😂
🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 12:47am On Nov 19, 2023
TheSuperNerd:


Always about what the player brings and not whether he earns in naira or dollars. Quality and attributes first before anything else.

Isn't that what we analyse? Or is it the money we analyse? Komekn forever deliberately misses the point.

Well said TheGoodJoe 🙌🏽💥
Chukwueze is injured
Didn’t feature in Milan’s last game
He hasn’t scored in the league yet.
Struggling at Milan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:48am On Nov 19, 2023
Mujtahida:

I was noncommittal with the appointment of Peseiro. Na journeyman jare.

I've come to the point where for me if we cannot hire first class or at least a quality coach, instead of hiring these jaded oyibo coaches, let's hire our local coaches abeg
bro they are decent grade c and d coaches in europe and South America only that I don’t understand the module the nff use when interviewing coaches

For example in Eastern Europe we can get a decent coach their without spending tons of money
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 12:49am On Nov 19, 2023
There are numerous examples I could list even from that 2013 squad but I gat your point! For me Nwakali would play that Iwobi's role better. Iwobi should move up or to Iheanacho's wing!
Mujtahida:

He's been invited before. How did that pan out? Free kick specialist? How many has he scored at his club he regularly plays for?

On club versus national team football I know all too well that that distinction manifests itself in the performance of many players but what i have seen over the years is that oftentimes a top quality player in his club performs below par for the national team but I have never seen where a low grade player switches and becomes the formula that makes the national team work. If you know of any such instances please mention them (and abeg don't mention Sunday Mba because as at then Mba was more of an upcoming player (not low grade) who was expected to do great things but even he, faded away)

Nwakali is a low grade player. He's been low grade for many years.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:51am On Nov 19, 2023
yinkeys:
No doubt Jose Peseiro would be gone by February
February bawo.. Abeg o we don't want a disappointing AFCON we need him out ASAP
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:52am On Nov 19, 2023
yinkeys:

Chukwueze is injured
Didn’t feature in Milan’s last game
He hasn’t scored in the league yet.
Struggling at Milan
boniface and lookman wey no dey struggle wetin dem do for our last match?

Boniface even played like person wey don win like 18 balon D’or awards. Our best players in that game were iwobi and iheanacho

Awoniyi looked confused and disoriented. Lookman was clueless

I won’t rate bassey and ajayi because they had no serious threat
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 12:53am On Nov 19, 2023
My brother, it is not about who is playing in what team? We are talking about a specific aspect of a formation and who has the quality to function there?
charlesemeka85:
even the Alhassan I saw against Porto in the UCL last week will do better than nwakali. If not for anything The Antwerp midfielder covers more ground and he is decent on the ball. He can work for 90mins plus without gassing out.

Another that is highly underrated here is onyedika who is one of the finest in the Belgian league but I believe soon many eyes go open where the boy dey

What about Ifeanyi Mathew doing superbly well with high flying FC Zurich in the Swiss league?

If nwakali is invited who are they expecting him to bench in our midfield? For me I won’t trade a hard worker like Onyeka for lazy and light weight nwakali 🤣

The only player I believe he can take his place in the team currently is Aribo only if a player like Ifeanyi Mathew or Alhassan isn’t invited
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:54am On Nov 19, 2023
Marjoribanks:
There are numerous examples I could list even from that 2013 squad but I gat your point! For me Nwakali would play that Iwobi's role better. Iwobi should move up or to Iheanacho's wing!
baba nwakali is better when played deeper. Currently iwobi is our best attacking midfielder be it CAM or AM

Nwakali doesn’t hv the agility to run up and down the pitch. He is a deep lying midfielder

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 12:55am On Nov 19, 2023
charlesemeka85:
boniface and lookman wey no dey struggle wetin dem do for our last match?

Boniface even played like person wey don win like 18 balon D’or awards. Our best players in that game were iwobi and iheanacho

Awoniyi looked confused and disoriented. Lookman was clueless

I won’t rate bassey and ajayi because they had no serious threat
No creative midfielders that can take on and dribble opponents 1 v 1 in the middle of the park to properly supply the forwards.
Why are we playing two center forwards instead of one.
I didn’t watch the game but the coach can pair Iheanacho with a CF in the centre up front rather than having two CF!s
Awoniyi and Boniface won’t work.
People say Orban Gift can beat players 1 v 1
We should mix the type of strikers we have. Not only the ones waiting for supplies
Dribblers and chance/space creators needed upfront

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 12:58am On Nov 19, 2023
Exactly my point! Nwakali should play beside Ndidi and Iwobi should move up to attacking midfield just behind Osimhen!
charlesemeka85:
baba nwakali is better when played deeper. Currently iwobi is our best attacking midfielder be it CAM or AM

Nwakali doesn’t hv the agility to run up and down the pitch. He is a deep lying midfielder

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:59am On Nov 19, 2023
Marjoribanks:
My brother, it is not about who is playing in what team? We are talking about a specific aspect of a formation and who has the quality to function there?
bro is not about the club a player is playing. I made my post based on my observation. Moreover Ifeanyi Mathew who is among the best in the Swiss league is playing in a league ranked lower than the Portuguese league

Also I hv to correct this notion of preferring players in bigger clubs or league. To me it doesn’t make sense one bit because it takes hard work and talent for a player to attract suitors from bigger leagues/clubs. Lets not make it seem like some players are favoured while others aren’t. If nwakali is good as hyped here he shouldn’t be where he is today, also if Alhassan isn’t decent enough he wouldn’t be where he is currently and even attracting interest from the likes of sporting,porto,strasbourg and Hellas Verona
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:02am On Nov 19, 2023
Meliforme:
The more detail you gather about the S.E, the less you want to say, but in saying, we shall say it. I will say it.

I wanted to apologise for the detail that i have gathered, and intending to share, but why should i apologise.

Anyways i will drop it.

I am dropping it....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:05am On Nov 19, 2023
yinkeys:

No creative midfielders that can take on and dribble opponents 1 v 1 in the middle of the park to properly supply the forwards.
Why are we playing two center forwards instead of one.
I didn’t watch the game but the coach can pair Iheanacho with a CF in the centre up front rather than having two CF!s
Awoniyi and Boniface won’t work.
People say Orban Gift can beat players 1 v 1
We should mix the type of strikers we have. Not only the ones waiting for supplies
Dribblers and chance/space creators needed upfront
I waste my data watching the game. That day I really pitied iwobi and Onyeka because they worked their asses off. Our midfield was open and porous

The duo of boniface and iheanacho didn’t track back to add more bodies in midfield when the team is in possession or chasing the ball. Iheanacho tried to a certain extend but we all know how lazy he is without the ball. Boniface was parading around like CR7 waitin for the ball to be passed to win for him to show one or two skills to trill the fans

Even I would hv preferred iheanacho playing behind the striker then Simon and Lookman from the flanks with boniface up front. Iwobi as CM while Onyedika shields the back four
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:11am On Nov 19, 2023
yinkeys:

No creative midfielders that can take on and dribble opponents 1 v 1 in the middle of the park to properly supply the forwards.
Why are we playing two center forwards instead of one.
I didn’t watch the game but the coach can pair Iheanacho with a CF in the centre up front rather than having two CF!s
Awoniyi and Boniface won’t work.
People say Orban Gift can beat players 1 v 1
We should mix the type of strikers we have. Not only the ones waiting for supplies
Dribblers and chance/space creators needed upfront
so iwobi isn’t creative enough? Nawa to una oooo

Iwobi is one of the best dribblers we hv who can easily beat players in 1v1 situations as well as create something. It was the mumu coach that limited him in that game by playing him deeper

From our flanks they was no bite at all. Lookman looked confused while iheanacho tucked in more than staying on the right flank. Wen the game changed a bit when Simon came in and tried taking the opposition players on to create something

No matter how we insult chukwueze here he is still vital to the team. Samu is the kind of player that will take players on as well as attract free kicks in dangerous areas close to the opponent’s box. The only problem I hv with him is sometimes he tends to be selfish and wasteful

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:29am On Nov 19, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 2:15am On Nov 19, 2023
Seems NFF have given Jpes a stern warning to beat Zimbabwe or get sacked. Osasu Obayuwana claims Jpes is planning on returning back to Zamalek, Egypt if he is eventually sacked

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:58am On Nov 19, 2023
He has na
jihday:
you said you don’t want NPFL coach you also said Finidi won’t be a bad idea, isn’t that contradictory? Or has Finidi ever done any job outside NPFL?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:58am On Nov 19, 2023
Meliforme:


I am dropping it....

REASONS WHY WE SHOULD CONTINUE IN 4-4-2 TACTICAL SETUP

1. To have more men in the finishing phase of attack. The paucity of bodies in the finishing phases of our attack was one of the problems Gernot Rohr faced that opted the switch to 4-4-2. With two strikers occupying the opposition CB's, the inverted wingers seeking to cut in to shoot and the presence of overlapping fullbacks produces more body in attack, and in many instances of it can create an overload in the finishing phases of attack.

2. 4-4-2 tactical formation is very dynamic The buildup to finishing (goalscoring) is shorter in 4-4-2. Teams that opt to go with a lean midfield, teams going into the game as the underdog, can decide on a 4-4-2 for a quicker route to goalscoring while retaining a good defensive shape, that is without compromising on defense. Ekong's and Omeruo's longballs to Moses Simon during the last AFCON tourney is a good example.
This feature of 4-4-2 does not mean that teams seeking for good buildup prior to goalscoring cannot utilize it, it however presents a dynamic feature of 4-4-2 and possible adaptations.

3. It is easier to maintain a defensive shape using 4-4-2. Teams coming into a game to defend more, teams with shaky defense, may decide on a 4-4-2 with play patterns that may intend to conserve the midfield etc

4. It appears we have trained and rehearsed more using 4-4-2. In the game against Mozambique, our cohesion and communication improved when we switched tactical formation to 4-4-2.

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