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WINDSOW:
You didn't see what you fellow posted about other faith.
You must be f.. uckingly sick in the head.

ok sir

Supremos:
Sorry sir, this thread simply tends to correct the drivel of the cleric and not to ridicule the prophet Muhammed

If you want to ridicule Christianity, your mohamed deserves to be equally ridiculed. Who do you guys think you are?

AbuTwins:
Joseph's lineage is that of David. But Jesus doesn't have Joseph's blood! So how is he of David through someone who didn't birth him?

And where was trinity mentioned in the Bible?

Do you know that Mary had other children after Jesus..back to your question how comes Jesus is part David lineage, Tru Mary cos she marry Joseph.. so she is part of Davidy family, if God that makes His birth miraculously and prophecy was on ground during the time of Jeremiah about the coming of Jesus is capable matching anything....But as long as Mary got married into David family and Joseph took it upon himself to father him..He is a member of David family... Trinity was not mention in the Bible but the creation of Man is a clue to it..Mind you God didn't say let me create man in my own image but He said OUR image...who are the OUR..if not God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit..the comforter..

1Sharon:
If you want to ridicule Christianity, your mohamed deserves to be equally ridiculed. Who do you guys think you are?

Ma'am be kindly informed that I'm a christian

I don't really understand some species of human beings? If someone make such comments about your religious leaders/prophets, won't that person be killed and burnt alive?
Why do some educated people act funny? Why can't they maintain their lane and help the world in the reduction of religious motivated terrorist acts?

AbuTwins:
Capital Punishment Crimes:
Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.’ You may wonder, ‘How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?’ If the prophet predicts something in the LORD’s name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
What do you think about all these?

Those individual laws happen to be part and parcel of the Constitutional Law of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan.... a Nation which God Himself eventually punished and destroyed beginning in about 700 BC when the Assyrians invaded the small state of Israel and then in 70AD when the Romans destroyed the sister state of Judah. And as the constitution states, God who punished and destroyed His Isreal will gather them back to the Land of Canaan in His Time.

No other nation of people on the planet has a part in that Constitutional Law which is a forever Law from God specifically to the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan. So any nation or people pretending to live by those laws in this day and age does so against God.

Kobojunkie:
Those individual laws happen to be part and parcel of the Constitutional Law of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan.... a Nation which God Himself eventually punished and destroyed beginning in about 700 BC when the Assyrians invaded the small state of Israel and then in 70AD when the Romans destroyed the sister state of Judah. And as the constitution states, God who punished and destroyed His Isreal will gather them back to the Land of Canaan in His Time.

No other nation of people on the planet has a part in that Constitutional Law which is a forever Law from God specifically to the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan. So any nation or people pretending to live by those laws in this day and age does so against God.

I totally agree with you that your God ordained those laws and Jesus was well aware of it.

Whether others used it or not, those laws are too violent!

psalmistkakah:
Do you know that Mary had other children after Jesus..back to your question how comes Jesus is part David lineage, Tru Mary cos she marry Joseph.. so she is part of Davidy family, if God that makes His birth miraculously and prophecy was on ground during the time of Jeremiah about the coming of Jesus is capable matching anything....But as long as Mary got married into David family and Joseph took it upon himself to father him..He is a member of David family... Trinity was not mention in the Bible but the creation of Man is a clue to it..Mind you God didn't say let me create man in my own image but He said OUR image...who are the OUR..if not God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit..the comforter..

Are you part of your mother's lineage?

Only a bastard is counted as such!

Jesus had no father and is unrelated to David by blood.

Our can be used for God as respect. God doesn't exist in trinity. Trinity was forged by your church fathers and MOGs! It doesn't exist anywhere in the Bible!

AbuTwins:
■ I totally agree with you that your God ordained those laws and Jesus was well aware of it. Whether others used it or not, those laws are too violent!

Now back to the topic...

A Nigerian Muslim Cleric Shiekh Hussain Yusuf Mabera was caught on tape mocking Christians for always singing and dancing unto the lord.
The Cleric went further to say that Islam teaches the true way of worship, which he said is a worship in "spirit and truth", apparently quoting the bible in the book of John 4 vs 24, which says, "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." .
The Islamic cleric who could be seen being cheered up by mulsim faithfuls, who gathered to listen to his digs against Christianity and Christians, was obviously elected in spirit courtesy of the applause he was receiving from the gathering.

Are you in agreement with this cleric on this part?

YourMrBoo:
Mr I too know

I just Sabi tiny things o

YourMrBoo:
We serve God through his son Jesus Christ hence Christianity. Which means Christ Like

I don't know about you.
But Christianity was born in the new testament Sir

It wasn't mentioned at all!

Likewise Judaism!

And na Paul start am not Jesus!

AbuTwins:
It wasn't mentioned at all! Likewise Judaism! And na Paul start am not Jesus!

Paul didn't start Christianity, no. There is no evidence that he did any such.

AbuTwins:
It wasn't mentioned at all!

Likewise Judaism!

And na Paul start am not Jesus!

Still inline with what am saying

AbuTwins:
Is David Jesus?

And why would jesus dance to please muslims.

Kobojunkie:
Now back to the topic...
Are you in agreement with this cleric on this part?

No, I'm not in agreement entirely with the submission.
However, I believe Islam is the only true form of worship!

paschalj4:
And why would jesus dance to please muslims.

Show us where Jesus danced?

AbuTwins:
■ No, I'm not in agreement entirely with the submission. However, I believe Islam is the only true form of worship!

So maybe I should first ask then, what is Islam's definition of Spirit and of Truth? if Allah is Spirit, how do Individuals interface with Allah's spirit to worship Allah in spirit? And what is the aspect that is the Truth claimed? In Scripture, these things are not arbitrarily defined is why I ask. They are explicitly stated so I wonder how they are mirrored or explained in Islam.

Kobojunkie:
Paul didn't start Christianity, no. There is no evidence that he did any such.

So who started it?
Show us the evidence?

Kobojunkie:
So maybe I should first ask then, what is Islam's definition of Spirit and of Truth? if Allah is Spirit, how do Individuals interface with Allah's spirit to worship Allah in spirit? And what is the aspect that is the Truth claimed? In Scripture, these things are not arbitrarily defined is why I ask. They are explicitly stated so I wonder how they are mirrored or explained in Islam.

I did tell you what I believed in his submission and spirit and truth isn't included!

AbuTwins:
■ I did tell you what I believed in his submission and spirit and truth isn't included!

Just wanted to be certain.

AbuTwins:
■So who started it? Show us the evidence?

Well, by the end of the first century, and beginning from the second century, many of those recorded as Christian church fathers were none Israelites. And the one who eventually made official the religion of Christianity, Emperor Apollo, was also not an Israelite.

Kobojunkie:
Just wanted to be certain.

Allah is not a spirit! So I don't believe in that phrase "in spirit and truth"!

AbuTwins:
■ Allah is not a spirit! So I don't believe in that phrase "in spirit and truth"!

OK.

AbuTwins:
Are you part of your mother's lineage?

Only a bastard is counted as such!

Jesus had no father and is unrelated to David by blood.

Our can be used for God as respect. God doesn't exist in trinity. Trinity was forged by your church fathers and MOGs! It doesn't exist anywhere in the Bible!

What do you mean by saying his not related to David by blood, as I said earlier on, do you know that Mary had other children after Jesus, and who father those children is Joseph, which means they have blood relationship with Jesus if u resoon they are family, there comes then lineage of the prophecy..Hope u get it now...

psalmistkakah:
What do you mean by saying his not related to David by blood, as I said earlier on, do you know that Mary had other children after Jesus, and who father those children is Joseph, which means they have blood relationship with Jesus if u resoon they are family, there comes then lineage of the prophecy..Hope u get it now...

Mary's other children are from Joseph and her. They do authentically belong to the lineage of Joseph.

Jesus has only maternal blood line. Do they ascribe maternal bloodline to people in those days?

AbuTwins:
Mary's other children are from Joseph and her. They do authentically belong to the lineage of Joseph.

Jesus has only maternal blood line. Do they ascribe maternal bloodline to people in those days?

Do they share the same blood with Jesus or not and who is their father...So I think am done with these...thank for ur time

AbuTwins:
Mary's other children are from Joseph and her. They do authentically belong to the lineage of Joseph.

Jesus has only maternal blood line. Do they ascribe maternal bloodline to people in those days?

Maternal Bloodline yes, because of the prophecy but I can say no cos once ur re married to a family even ur family are now part of the family by marriage....Not to talk of a miraculous child,