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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:50am On Nov 21, 2023
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Patrick Vierra
Darren Moore
Patrick Kluivert
Kole Toure
Sol Campbell
Liam Rosenior
Ledly King
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To name a few
to do what?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:57am On Nov 21, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


If Kelechi Nwakali is not in the team, Iwobi has to play the deep lying role. Not Aribo or Onyeka. At least Iwobi has the technical ability to lay through passes. I don't see that in Onyeka and Aribo.

Either way, the team needs Kelechi Nwakali.
Iwobi is good with short passes not long , he kept playing wrong passes on Sunday. We need a proper CM
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 5:34am On Nov 21, 2023
Ironically, Aribo has been the only one providing such passes when played in midfield, as evidenced in matches against Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe.

Iwobi is more effective near the box, where he can connect short passes with the wingers and striker. In this role, Iwobi won't need to worry much about defensive duties, knowing his back is protected.
TheGoodJoe:


If Kelechi Nwakali is not in the team, Iwobi has to play the deep lying role. Not Aribo or Onyeka. At least Iwobi has the technical ability to lay through passes. I don't see that in Onyeka and Aribo.

Either way, the team needs Kelechi Nwakali.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by villagereporter(m): 5:51am On Nov 21, 2023
codemaniacs:


You're the one that's slow. You're putting words in my mouth that I never said you lack intelligence and suffer from low self-esteem.

I am the one that said fullbacks and wingers are chance creators and are the ones who assist.

Your dumb and dull brain said " When you have only attackers creating chances for their fellow attackers there’s a problem".

Now you're changing your words because you know you're saying nonsense and rubbish.

You're a child using childish antics to deceive yourself that you have sense but you're a senseless fool.

You can't even come up with your own ideas you have to steal my own ideas and use it against me you're very stupid and dull.
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Baba gud day, please go easy ooo.SE issues shouldn’t distract or make us be at dagger’s drawn on each other considering that we are only analyzing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by villagereporter(m): 6:11am On Nov 21, 2023
So after 24hrs, jpajero has not been sacked, well is too early to go d way of Niyi Osundare in his poem”Epe Ijebu”.

But if nff failed to do d needful isn’t it necessary dat we remind them of what happens to Keshi for applying to another job when under contractual agreement with nff.

Or are they so daft to realize dat pajero applying for another job when still under contract is a breech of contract? Methinks we need to beam our searchlight on nff

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daninya33: 7:04am On Nov 21, 2023
Some of Ladan boys are good enough to play in the Super Eagles.

It beats my imagination that we can't learn from other countries giving lads of 17 yrs and above opportunities to play in the senior national team.

So NFF pay JP huge sums of money in dollars for his lacklustre performance just because they get kickback.
How much was our late legend Keshi Stephen paid a month?,They even ended up treating him so badly.

The NFF is the biggest bane of Nigerian football.

Funny Enough to see newspapers headlines saying,"Top NFF Official Cries Out"

Why are they crying out now?,Are they scared JP will ask them to pay him all the kickback they have collected from him?,or they are crying out that they will miss the Egunje they are collecting from him?.

Why did they give JP a bumper contract with juicy clauses included if they knew that paying him will be a herculean task?
Is he the best coach ever from Portugal?

Besides JP breached his contract by applying for the job role at Zamalek same reason the Pinnick led NFF sacked late Stephen Keshi.
He must be sacked too.

Paying off JP should be their problem not ours. They should go source for funds to pay him off.

NFF is a joke.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 7:16am On Nov 21, 2023

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 7:19am On Nov 21, 2023
Daninya33:
Some of Ladan boys are good enough to play in the Super Eagles.

It beats my imagination that we can't learn from other countries giving lads of 17 yrs and above opportunities to play in the senior national team.

So NFF pay JP huge sums of money in dollars for his lacklustre performance just because they get kickback.
How much was our late legend Keshi Stephen paid a month?,They even ended up treating him so badly.

The NFF is the biggest bane of Nigerian football.

Funny Enough to see newspapers headlines saying,"Top NFF Official Cries Out"

Why are they crying out now?,Are they scared JP will ask them to pay him all the kickback they have collected from him?,or they are crying out that they will miss the Egunje they are collecting from him?.

Why did they give JP a bumper contract with juicy clauses included if they knew that paying him will be a herculean task?
Is he the best coach ever from Portugal?

Besides JP breached his contract by applying for the job role at Zamalek same reason the Pinnick led NFF sacked late Stephen Keshi.
He must be sacked too.

Paying off JP should be their problem not ours. They should go source for funds to pay him off.

NFF is a joke.
to be fair, it's not as if we have 17/18/19 years old wonderkids playing in Europe top leagues or making waves that we decided not to call up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:21am On Nov 21, 2023
villagereporter:
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Baba gud day, please go easy ooo.SE issues shouldn’t distract or make us be at dagger’s drawn on each other considering that we are only analyzing.

He said I was "slow".. so I responded accordingly...

If someone abuses and talks down on you on the internet the best response is to abuse the person back and talk down on the person.

98% of people who talk down on others suffer from inferiority complex and don't know how to engage in intelligent conversations without trying to belittle the other person.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daninya33: 7:26am On Nov 21, 2023
Amedino99:
to be fair, it's not as if we have 17/18/19 years old wonderkids playing in Europe top leagues or making waves that we decided not to call up.

We don't actually need a whiz kid Sir.
I don't want to mention names of player who can do better than those playing currently in the super eagle setup.

The u20 goalkeeper is better than Uzoho our first choice goalkeeper.
Also a young CB at the last U20 can do better than some of the so called big boys we have paraded.

Even in midfield there are boys good enough to start in the super eagles who are within the 20 years old mark.

We need a coach with balls to ring those changes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 7:31am On Nov 21, 2023
yinkeys:

No they cannot beat Lesotho
They aren’t willing to give 100%
Lesotho or Zimbabwe on a good day will beat Nigeria
You think those boys are playing when they hear they’d face Nigeria
But NPFL boys will beat Lesotho, Zimbabwe & Benin republic because they’re much more hungry & desire to prove they can
They yearn for the opportunity but you guys reserved every spot for foreign based players and goalies 😂
you talk as if the local players have been alienated from the national team entirely. What happened to the hunger and desire when they played against mexico? Costa Rica? Chan qualifiers against Ghana? where did the hunger and desire go in these games?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 7:32am On Nov 21, 2023
Daninya33:


We don't actually need a whiz kid Sir.
I don't want to mention names of player who can do better than those playing currently in the super eagle setup.

The u20 goalkeeper is better than Uzoho our first choice goalkeeper.
Also a young CB at the last U20 can do better than some of the so called big boys we have paraded.

Even in midfield there are boys good enough to start in the super eagles who are within the 20 years old mark.

We need a coach with balls to ring those changes.
everyone is better until they play for the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 7:44am On Nov 21, 2023
Amedino99:
you talk as if the local players have been alienated from the national team entirely. What happened to the hunger and desire when they played against mexico? Costa Rica? Chan qualifiers against Ghana? where did the hunger and desire go in these games?
Local players have been sidelined or excluded since Gernot Rohr
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:54am On Nov 21, 2023
Amedino99:
you talk as if the local players have been alienated from the national team entirely. What happened to the hunger and desire when they played against mexico? Costa Rica? Chan qualifiers against Ghana? where did the hunger and desire go in these games?
Sir,do you think Super Eagles main team will beat the same Mexico and Costa Rica.
Do not be surprised seeing our main team finding it hard to beat Ghana Chan team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:59am On Nov 21, 2023
villagereporter:
So after 24hrs, jpajero has not been sacked, well is too early to go d way of Niyi Osundare in his poem Epe Ijebu.

But if nff failed to do d needful isn’t it necessary dat we remind them of what happens to Keshi for applying to another job when under contractual agreement with nff.

Or are they so daft to realize dat pajero applying for another job when still under contract is a breech of contract. Methinks we need to beam our searchlight on nff
Amaju Pinnick used it to nail Keshi cuz he hate Keshi and want Oliseh badly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 8:25am On Nov 21, 2023
Kog45:
Sir,do you think Super Eagles main team will beat the same Mexico and Costa Rica.
Do not be surprised seeing our main team finding it hard to beat Ghana Chan team.

we can possibly draw or even win Costa Rica but I think we played mexico after that home based drubbing and lost 2-1. The main complaint about this team is that they lack hunger and desire, a trait the local based players supposedly have in abundance. Hunger and desire we have been unable to see in them when given the opportunity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:35am On Nov 21, 2023
Amedino99:
we can possibly draw or even win Costa Rica but I think we played mexico after that home based drubbing and lost 2-1. The main complaint about this team is that they lack hunger and desire, a trait the local based players supposedly have in abundance. Hunger and desire we have been unable to see in them when given the opportunity.
Yes drubbing by Mexico just like the way Portugal drubbed the main Super eagles..home based and main team lost against Mexico but winning Costa Rica?I doubt
Do you see that hungers in main Super eagle’s team…am not advocating for home base but where we are lacking,if we cannot see it outside better to look inwards,for instance goalkeeping dept.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DissTroy(m): 8:41am On Nov 21, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:47am On Nov 21, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


If Kelechi Nwakali is not in the team, Iwobi has to play the deep lying role. Not Aribo or Onyeka. At least Iwobi has the technical ability to lay through passes. I don't see that in Onyeka and Aribo.

Either way, the team needs Kelechi Nwakali.
Another manageable option is Ndidi (with Onyedika at DM)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:50am On Nov 21, 2023
villagereporter:
So after 24hrs, jpajero has not been sacked, well is too early to go d way of Niyi Osundare in his poem Epe Ijebu.

But if nff failed to do d needful isn’t it necessary dat we remind them of what happens to Keshi for applying to another job when under contractual agreement with nff.

Or are they so daft to realize dat pajero applying for another job when still under contract is a breech of contract. Methinks we need to beam our searchlight on nff
Why do I feel you have a degree in Yoruba studies or something like that. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 9:08am On Nov 21, 2023
Kog45:
Yes drubbing by Mexico just like the way Portugal drubbed the main Super eagles..home based and main team lost against Mexico but winning Costa Rica?I doubt
Do you see that hungers in main Super eagle’s team…am not advocating for home base but where we are lacking,if we cannot see it outside better to look inwards,for instance goalkeeping dept.

it's almost as if the guy is punishing us for delaying his salary cos I don't understand why he refused to give a chance to another goalkeeper in the last 4 matches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bossto(m): 9:37am On Nov 21, 2023
Some people here like TheSuperNerd, TheGoodjoe etc know football better than most of these grade E coaches we keep parading.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:47am On Nov 21, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Ironically, Aribo has been the only one providing such passes when played in midfield, as evidenced in matches against Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe.

Iwobi is more effective near the box, where he can connect short passes with the wingers and striker. In this role, Iwobi won't need to worry much about defensive duties, knowing his back is protected.

There is a guise that goes with playing a deep-playmaking role. Looking a place and passing to another. Another important point is pass-spin. Passing the ball with a spin to make it glide to target player.

These are qualities Iwobi brings playing deep. Where he falls is Breaking-The-Line passes and switching play. Another is awareness of position of team player.

His dribbling ability is also more fixed on take-ons than spins. Spins are key for this play.

When I consider the requirements, I don't see that in Aribo when compared to Iwobi. However, Kelechi Nwakali shines because of player awareness and switching plays. You can't excel today without switching plays in midfield. That is where Rodri and De Bruyne outclasses the whole players in Manchester City. Rico Lewis is also showing promises, along with John Stones.

I feel if we add that to our arsenal, we will play in a more effective and offensive manner.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:52am On Nov 21, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Ironically, Aribo has been the only one providing such passes when played in midfield, as evidenced in matches against Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe.

Iwobi is more effective near the box, where he can connect short passes with the wingers and striker. In this role, Iwobi won't need to worry much about defensive duties, knowing his back is protected.

When it comes to defending by a deep-lying playmaker, he has to rely on pressing spaces and closing lines. As much as a deep-lying playmaker needs to break-the-lines with incisive passes, he also has the duty of reading these passes from the opposing players, and shielding attacking areas with his movement.

Also, he needs to know how to shield the defence from counters using tactical defending methods. I think such players have a keyrole in communicating with the defenders to understand leaking spots.

I think this is more important than setting up the team to protect the deep-lying playmaker.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:55am On Nov 21, 2023
mostob:
Another manageable option is Ndidi (with Onyedika at DM)

I have a different view of Ndidi. I think he should be in our defensive setup. I know he has been playing as a midfielder for ages, but I feel his defensive work rate will best suit us if he plays as a center-back. If he is focused on breaking down opposing attacks, I feel he will excel. With his training in midfield, he could even have some defensive ball-playing attributes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:57am On Nov 21, 2023
jihday:
Iwobi is good with short passes not long , he kept playing wrong passes on Sunday. We need a proper CM

I am talking with respect to the players we have in the team already. I think Onyedika and Iwobi are the best who can play a deep midfield role. However, I believe Kelechi Nwakali is superior in that role and a must for call-up. I agree with you that we need a proper controlling midfielder.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 10:35am On Nov 21, 2023
I have a theory about Nigerian national football team(s). Especially the Super Eagles.

It is not surprising, but Amaju Pinnick’s inspired ‘let’s build from outside’ culture has finally come home to roost. Under him, there was almost an intentional disregard for local football, with focus being on foreign developed players. The idea was that we could get enough players, well trained abroad, to win games for the national teams.

Did it work at the start? I don’t know. But it was good for many players, academies etc. Opportunities abound for them…all they had to do was find their way abroad and/or play for a top team abroad to get in the NTs. Also, the pathway for Nigerian-born players who had played for other countries at junior level to get into the Nigerian NTs got easier.

The consequences of that are national teams that have no identity, style, or culture; filled with players that hardly, or never played in Nigeria or for Nigerian teams (clubs or youth teams). While this is unquantifiable, I think it’s led to a reduced sense of nationality for many of our players at all levels. Many of them have made their name and career without the support of the country. We need them now, they don’t need us.

Of the 25 players in the latest squad, only 5 players played 3+ years semi-pro/pro football in Nigeria. Only 8 of those players represented Nigeria at any underage level. Our national team is ‘imported’, just like many things in the country.

Deji Faremi©
These are undisputable facts here. I've always thought something was amist with this team and the bolded kinda brings clarity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:39am On Nov 21, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


I am talking with respect to the players we have in the team already. I think Onyedika and Iwobi are the best who can play a deep midfield role. However, I believe Kelechi Nwakali is superior in that role and a must for call-up. I agree with you that we need a proper controlling midfielder.
i just pray we get someone to make Iwobi forget the DLP role or covering for any 3. A team that wants to contend will need iwobi fully concentrated on his primary duties. Issue is apart from any good midfield pairing, who is selfless like Ndidi?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:41am On Nov 21, 2023
Peseiro has never lasted more than 2 years in any of the teams he has managed in the past.... In fact, in 2016 alone, he was sacked three times from 3 different teams.... Come AFCON,he would be entering his third year with Nigeria...
Chai NFF!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 10:41am On Nov 21, 2023
jihday:
nothing do the players, get a quality coach.
It goes deeper than just the coach my guy. Rohr, Eguavoen and Peseiro have basically churned our same result. One variable is constant here. "The Players"!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:41am On Nov 21, 2023
Barryseal:

These are undisputable facts here. I've always thought something was amist with this team and the bolded kinda brings clarity.
Facts. They were showing low iq. If they want to get the best from FBs, they should get a manager that they'll respect/fear, one that is tactically sound as well. They won't want to disappoint such a coach. But all these guys are concerned about is chop chop.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by dijon: 10:47am On Nov 21, 2023
When will these kelechi Nwakali talk stop...kelechi these, Kelechi that, kelechi better than players playing in better league and top club...i honestly do not understand you again. If Kelechi is really good like you advocating, dont you think top agencies would have poach him and find top level team for him to exhibit all these manufactured quality you making out for him.
To be honest with you, kelechi can not do more than what the players we have in the midfield does now. What we need in Super Eagle is a very top quality coach that reads the game very well....not all these your manufactured unreal submission.
TheGoodJoe:


I am talking with respect to the players we have in the team already. I think Onyedika and Iwobi are the best who can play a deep midfield role. However, I believe Kelechi Nwakali is superior in that role and a must for call-up. I agree with you that we need a proper controlling midfielder.

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