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see why CHINA no go listen and change their style of government even if dem sanction dem

Lukuluku69:
OBJ

Always speaking from both sides of his Mouth.

It was cool when you were Elected and you even schemed for a Third Term.

This Western Lackey sef, his Western Masters will just be looking at him with one kain eye now.

you get am:
Democracy is the reason why external powers can influence internal policies, through the IMF, the World Bank, and their Charity organizations.

pansophist:
Anything that didn't grow from inside out, will not serve you. A plant grows from the ground up, hence, it bears fruit. A chick hatches from an egg, hence, it brings forth life.

Western democracy is not from Africa, it was imposed by external colonialists, and it will never serve you. How the people who collected power over the Western handover accept this deal baffles me.

If Mao of China hadn't overthrown the KMT in 1949, China would be as dysfunctional as India, they would be the largest democracy, a useless title that has no tangible result in the lives of everyday Chinese.

Democracy is the reason why external powers can influence internal policies, through the IMF, the World Bank, and their Charity organizations. They will sponsor a goat, and give him media coverage to destroy his country, Ukraine as an example.

And truly democratic leaders will be killed, take Gadaffi, Sankara, and Lumumba as an example. Democracy is a scam.

I repeat, democracy is a scam. Africa will never grow under it. NEVER>

What a running amock remark from a totally destructive, and very badly educated man. With his agencyship for W/Europe& N/America(WENA) and terribly narcissistic practices, a terrible predecessor in Nigeria's FG he was in 1999 to 2007 and which to date confirms him as a destroyer of democracy and a practitioner of toxic governance like he has just stated.

What a running amock remark from a totally destructive, and very badly educated man. With Obasanjo's agencyship for W/Europe& N/America(WENA) and his terribly narcissistic practices, a terrible predecessor in Nigeria's FG he was between 1999 to 2007 and which to date confirms him as a destroyer of democracy and a practitioner of toxic governance like he has just stated.

A bit confused here.

Are you talking to OBJ or who?

I ask because I didn't see him advocating for military govt nor implying so.

I'm also surprised that you completely avoided responding to his argument that Democracy as is being practiced in Africa needs to be amended.

I'm even bothering with all this because I have seen some very sensible posts from you in the past so wondering what went wrong.

TemplarLandry:
The worst democratic government is better than any gaddamn military government. Deal with it.

I dedicate “BAD TILL ETERNITY” by Blaqbonez feat. Zlatan to OBJ.
Great jam!

yommen:
The man is talking from a mindset with greed. You know as a military ruler, your tenure is only as long as you want. You are not bound to leave after 4 or 8 years. Remember he actually wanted to go for the impossible 3rd term. Him bin no wan commot which is not possible under democracy. That's why he doesn't like the idea of democracy.

Most of the Military men that ruled Nigeria still didn't spend up to 8 years except Maradona.

EyeCumInPiece:
Black man is too crude and primitive for Democracy.
Turns to jungle rule when you add tribalism and religious bigotry

You got the point right. Democracy is still the best form of government but black man is just too selfish to bring the best out of it.

Parliamentary system is a way forward, return the country to regionalism or better still federal government and 774 local governments. The sharing formula should be 80% local governments and 20% federal government.

State government is a waste of resources.

iwaeda:
https://dailypost.ng/2023/11/20/western-democracy-not-working-for-africa-obasanjo/

This is the truth

Africans are slaves in nature. They Adopt Religions, Cultures , life Style, Food even languages they speak.

Ikaeniyan0:
What did you do about the system when you're the president or you're just noticing now?

I guess he is insane due to his present age

Bluntemperor:
What Is OBJ saying?
Is it that he did not benefits from it,for 8- yrs ,he was traveling up and down and could not established Industries for the Youths,nor did he deepened the Democracy he benefited from!
How did he got a University?
How did he got a Presidential Library and almost got 3rd - Terms of of his own Agenda?
So,a leader sees a Country as good but once he leaves the Office, Democracy is not good,abi?
African Leaders are funny,o!
Did you obey the Rules of Democracy- of Majority and by Majority- so during your time,no Rigging?
You benefited as a Military and also as Civilian President but Nigerians don't feel the Economic Impacts or any Legacies left behind, so what is Baba OBJ telling us now?
When you people were there in Govt - how many Refineries were Functional,
How many Roads were Completed in the South West- your domain because the People in the S/ West did not votes your Party- PDP,but if you had done the needful, today People will be proud of you!
If Democracy is not Working,it's because of the African Leaders
are full of - Corruption,Greed, Politics-with Bitterness, Deception of the Masses etc, even the Youths are deceived by their own gauliblility!

That's the more reason Tinubu commands respect in Southwest more than OBJ. Southwest see Tinubu as the leader of Yorubas and not Obasanjo. OBJ truly has international recognition being a past president but he has no electoral influence or weight in the southwest.

Na wa for you o! Did you really peruse the stuff ?. Who is talking about military rule up here? Baba’s theme is “Home grown democracy “. Other countries are practicing their thought-out design of the type of democracy that suit them. Look at countries like China, Russia, India etc, the west would naturally object to it cos they won’t benefit from it but it’s working for the countries listed above. They sometimes refer to it as illiberal democracy etc but who cares for as long as you are developing economically and all.

TemplarLandry:
The worst democratic government is better than any gaddamn military government. Deal with it.

I dedicate “BAD TILL ETERNITY” by Blaqbonez feat. Zlatan to OBJ.
Great jam!

I've always said that we should domesticate this democracy cos it's not working for us.

If in the west, you're free to be blasphemous, in our own case, we should regulate it. Trying to give an example.


Why do we have to spend time deliberating at the national assembly on budget and the problems they have in focus before the sitting would have quadruple before they provide solutions to the ones existing.

While you're making budget, we have 10 problems and before the budget kicks in, you have 50 problems, then you'll have this budget struggling.

We can be in democracy and still borrow chinese model of implementation.

Russia and Rwanda wouldn't have been here if they went by the doctrine of tenure limits imposed by the west. Dubai and Saudi wouldn't have been this strong if they're in democracy.

Ali Bongo mentioned this last time.

In Nigeria, it should be allowed that after 16 years of exiting having served 2 terms as a governor, they can contest again - this would force these politicians to perform in anticipation of the reward in 16 years time. With this, you won't have to lose their second term to nonsense like budgeting billions for perfume like BSO is doing now. They'd do quality job to last long. Kwankwaso can be a governor again and peter obi can govern Anambra again. We have weak institutions.

And it is working for all of the West?
See America, businessmen (lobbyists) don buy nearly all the politicians finish. US politician answer to Health insurance companies, ExxonMobil and banks first, then will blank all their voters.
The UK government is selling their public property in pieces to their friends in the private sector to get wealthier.

iwaeda:
https://dailypost.ng/2023/11/20/western-democracy-not-working-for-africa-obasanjo/

If it's by it's definition, nothing is wrong with it. It's pro- humanity and support ideals of liberty and freedom.
The real problem was created by the military that midwifed fake fashion of that democracy since 1966. You Obasanjo, sir were part of that mutiny against the people of Nigeria. You created Barack version of democracy. Destroyed regional autonomy and true federalism which are ideals of our democracy as laid down by founding fathers. The present 1999 Constitution was the last born in the family of the fake democracy you impose on Nigeria ethnic nationalities.

Obasanjo is very right. Africans needs to create its own version of democracy that will address the governance needs of it people

Tochi360:
You and the mofo wey you quote be shameless tribalist,e no possible for una two to ever make sense 😄
The only thing wey fit come out from two of una tribally bigoted hateful coconut head na
Hsdhrdh csssauggh vssf,bjittr gsaaout cdyoyc xdyifrr gsuurf nooya plkcsa jut,hitryhhvb ,hiyutr

You don't seem to be smart at all. You're extremely dull.

I dey tease the mumu, you're here saying nonsense. If you think I really give a fvck about igbos or any other ethnic group, nah you sabi

Tochi360:
Shut up daft mofo like you dey talk about smartness can you imagine

Nothing like tease here,the only reason why your god create you na to look for co senseless shameless tribalist to do tribal banters for nairaland,na your purpose of existence be dis

Useless bingo,there are good and bad people in every tribe, since your deranged tribalistic mind refutes this reality, you go soon run naked enter market be that e no go tey

Shameless tribalist.

I won't be wasting my time on a dumb person like you

Tochi360:
Lool your late goat rapist father can't be put in the same sentence His daftness is natural dats why he never paid heed to advise to stop raping people's goat until he was caught and burnt alive like asun

You will soon die the death of your late father too you daft deadheaded tribalist

K

Ikaeniyan0:
K

No oo it's not ok

Same daftness that killed your late father is about to send you to your early grave

Ko tie ok rara

tsdarkside:
now you remember regional is better....

Please explain

which tribe ended it to start with....??

East(nzeogwu then irons centralised govt)

how to get back to it will be difficult....

Get what back
We already have it
37 of it instead of 3 or 4 or 12 or 19 or 37

few got used to stealin at the center....

Are they not stealing in the local govt defense?

it will be very hard to change it now back to regional....

shall we have 37 regions
What are you changing back to

Cromagnon:
Please explain



East(nzeogwu then irons centralised govt)

Get what back
We already have it
37 of it instead of 3 or 4 or 12 or 19 or 37


Are they not stealing in the local govt defense?

shall we have 37 regions
What are you changing back to

you right....in some level their is already regional goverment....

but alot of power still remains in the center....
i was just answerin the person that said regional is better....

Ikaeniyan0:
Igbo man weldone oooo

That's the work of the civilian government not the current Junta ruling Niger

THAT'S BECAUSE AFRICANS ARE DULL, BAD AND DEAD.
AFRICANS ARE ALSO FOOLISH, SILLY AND IGNORANT. WE READ THE SAME BOOKS LIKE PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES BUT WE ALWAYS MISAPPLY WHAT WE READ BECAUSE OF GREED, FOOLISHNESS AND SELFISHNESS.

Freshtruth:
Democracy na scam military rule remain the best England we dey beg come colonize us again these so thieves shouting independence have finish this country our Judiciary is now a laughing stock.
Those fools quoting me that the whites does not like us most of the big companies that is no longer in voke who brought them to Nigeria? Most Nigerians are wealthy before because of the white men rule my Dad end at just waec with that his result he was able to secure a job at Texaco and he has built 2 world class hotels me that is a Bsc and Ond holder is laugishing in 50k per month job. Suffering and smiling people the white are far better than our leaders. APC supporters are clowns

ILLITERATE DUNCE WITH NO BRAIN.

NAME ME ONE INDUSTRY BUILT BY THE BRITISH IN NIGERIA.

NAME ME ONE INFRASTRUCTURE THEY BUILT THAT YOU CAN SEE AROUND YOU.

EWU.

DO YOU KNOW THEY DID NOT BUILD A SINGLE POWER PLANT IN NIGERIA BEFORE THEY LEFT?

FROM 1897 TO 1960, THAT THEY RULED.

NOT ONE POWER PLANT, NOT ONE SINGLE FULL FLEDGED UNIVERSITY.

NOT ONE SINGLE EXPRESSWAY.

DESPITE EXPORTING OUR RESOURCES FOR 63 YEARS.

DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOUR THICK, LOW IQ SKULL TO WONDER WHAT THEY DID WITH ALL THE MONEY THEY MADE IN NIGERIA?

ARE YOU AWARE THAT LITERACY RATE WAS 7% IN 1960, COMPARED TO 75% TODAY, THANKS TO BLACK RULE?

DO YOU AND THE 70+ DUMBASS PEOPLE WHO LIKED YOUR POST EVEN UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR COLONISATION OF A COUNTRY BY ANOTHER?

DO YOU THINK IT IS DONE OUT OF ALTRUISM?

YOU DON’T KNOW THAT THE ONLY REASON FOR COLONISATION IS THE EXPLOITATION AND THEFT OF THE RESOURCES OF THE COLONISED NATION FOR THE ENRICHMENT OF THE COLONISING POWER?

STUPID AIR HEAD.

LET THE BRITISH COME BACK TO RULE AND FCU.K YOUR MOTHER THERE.

BASTARD SLAVE WITH NO BRAIN.

orisa37:
THAT'S BECAUSE AFRICANS ARE DULL, BAD AND DEAD.
AFRICANS ARE ALSO FOOLISH, SILLY AND IGNORANT. WE READ THE SAME BOOKS LIKE PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES BUT WE ALWAYS MISAPPLY WHAT WE READ BECAUSE OF GREED, FOOLISHNESS AND SELFISHNESS.

SHUT YOUR DUMB LIPS THERE, YOU PEA BRAIN.

BEFORE COLONIALISM WE BUILT OUR HOUSES WITHOUT FRONT DOORS OR GATES OR FENCES KNOWING FULL WELL THAT NOBODY WOULD ENTER AND STEAL OR ROB.

WE HAD A NOBLE AND VIRTUOUS CULTURE WHICH WAS DESTROYED BY THE THIEVING BRITISH, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN STILL SEE GLIMPSES OF OUR PRECOLONIAL NOBILITY IN THE RURAL AREAS WHERE CRIME IS STILL EXTREMELY LOW.

IF YOU DON’T KNOW YOUR HISTORY AS AN AFRICAN, GO AND EDUCATE YOUR BLASTED SELF.

Why are we now chasing after DOLLARS?