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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by GloriousGbola: 3:00pm On Nov 20, 2023
very rich coming from OBJ who had micheal jackson vote in elections under his watch

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by JuanDeDios: 3:03pm On Nov 20, 2023
EyeCumInPiece:

Black man is too crude and primitive for Democracy.
Turns to a jungle when you add tribalism and religious bigotry
So what's the alternative? Have you lived under a dictatorship before?
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Antoeni(m): 3:05pm On Nov 20, 2023
I Agree With OBJ On This, But This is The Same OBJ that spent 8 years enjoying that style and tried massively to run the third term .... God is a merciful God truly

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by badoh(m): 3:05pm On Nov 20, 2023
freemanq:
You have an opportunity to change it but u dey busy dey share money up and down for third term
And also misused funds meant to revitalise the power sector. His highhandedness, influencing senators and members of HOR to elongate his tenure and persecution of political enemies led us to where we are. OBJ had the political will to reset this country but he fumbled.

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Politicstoday: 3:07pm On Nov 20, 2023
As far as I’m concerned, military government is the best. It’s in the military government then that there’s huge scholarships for the less privileged people not to talk of good economy during the military era. Check online and search how the economy was booming during the military era in Nigeria politics, compare it to democracy system of government in Nigeria. Tinubu and APC will never help Nigeria in terms of economic growth, security issues, agriculture, health and education. They are just there to destroy the Nigeria system more and increase the level of corruption in their time. What obj said is 100% truths. Truths is bitter. Corruption in the civil service and political stakeholders in the government was at minimal level in the military system of government compared to democratic system of government. The level of going abroad for greener pastures was at minimal level during military government compared to wicked democratic government we are witnessing for more than 2 decades now. It’s very unfortunate situation in Nigeria democratic system of government.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by seguno2: 3:10pm On Nov 20, 2023
iwaeda:


https://dailypost.ng/2023/11/20/western-democracy-not-working-for-africa-obasanjo/

Since he failed to make Peter Obi president in his desperate bid to stop Atiku, such that his nemesis Tinubu sold him a dummy, he has started wailing about western democracy.

What happened to his thinking faculty in 1979 when he handed over to Shagari, and during his own eight years as civilian president?

Baba Iyabo should stop treating us like the 200 million mumus in Lagbaja’s song.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by 1972xy: 3:10pm On Nov 20, 2023
Obasanjo has no idea if what he is talking about. He had enjoyed democracy in Nigeria to the extent that he wanted 3rd term.
Democracy as it is good . But, it doesn't work well for us in Nigeria because of corruption and corruption did not allow the rule of law to shape our democracy.
In Nigeria, there is no law for the rich. How can democracy work where there is disregard with the rule of law.
A Tribunal will rule on a case, appeal court will over turned it and Supreme Court will reinstate it when money exchange hands.
Democracy where the highest bidder wins elections. It is our attitude , our love for embezzlement, our greediness for power that didn't democracy to work for us as a nation.
The referee of democracy is the law. Do we have law in Nigeria? Do we have law enforcement agency in Nigeria? No. The rich has hijacked the police to bend the law. Every rich man or big man as Nigerian called them has at least two police men attached to them to trample upon innocent Nigerian. They go with anything in Nigeria. They can even kill and there will be no case against them .
Hence, the problem of Democracy in Nigeria is we Nigerians with high level of corruption, tribalism and nepotism .
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by seguno2: 3:11pm On Nov 20, 2023
Freshtruth:
Democracy na scam military rule remain the best England we dey beg come colonize us again these so thieves shouting independence have finish this country our Judiciary is now a laughing stock.

Is England under military rule or what is this wailing confusion about please
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by KillIgbohoN0W: 3:12pm On Nov 20, 2023
tiswell:
Democracy is US not UK


Oh and here I was thinking it was Greek.

Thanks for correcting me sir. I apologize for not knowing as much as you do. I will ensure to follow you henceforth and learn from you sir. Thanks.

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by seguno2: 3:13pm On Nov 20, 2023
EyeCumInPiece:
Black man is too crude and primitive for Democracy.
Turns to jungle rule when you add tribalism and religious bigotry

Jonathan, Weah and others who had peaceful transition from one party to another as incumbent who lost re-election must be white
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by seguno2: 3:15pm On Nov 20, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
What did you do about the system when you're the president or you're just noticing now?

Good question.

Maybe he wants to be jailed again for coup plotting like Abacha did
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by justmondris: 3:16pm On Nov 20, 2023
TemplarLandry:
The worst democratic government is better than any gaddamn military government. Deal with it.

I dedicate “BAD TILL ETERNITY” by Blaqbonez feat. Zlatan to OBJ.
Great jam!
You are a joker. Which democratically elected president in Nigeria is better than Gaddafi of Libya and how is the country doing now ever since they adopted democracy?

Lastly how much was 1 USD to naira in the Military regime and how much is it now? In the Abacha regime, it was around 1 USD to 20NGN.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by BiGVEEN58(m): 3:17pm On Nov 20, 2023
EyeCumInPiece:
Black man is too crude and primitive for Democracy.
Turns to jungle rule when you add tribalism and religious bigotry

Africa wasn't ready for the internet. The majority of it's population is massively miseducated.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by imagrg(m): 3:19pm On Nov 20, 2023
True.

Baba is a wise man!
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by CHAQUR: 3:20pm On Nov 20, 2023
Dj OBJ the Rabble rouser, is on the beat again.

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Dittodat: 3:23pm On Nov 20, 2023
Well, there's no system that's perfect. Even the US democracy is not perfect. I have many problems with the system.
The US practices a democracy in which the person with the majority votes doesn't always win.
There's no other place in the world where the candidate with the majority votes is not guaranteed to win.
My biggest problem with Nigerian democracy is that it's too expensive and we can't really afford it. We are practicing g the US system, which is too danm expensive for us. The only difference is the electoral college which is a major problem in the US.
We need a unicameral legislative system with 6 years of tenure. we have too many elections which are very expensive to carry out and always very contentious.

Baba Iyabo was in govt for 8 years and he didn't think of these ideas when he was in control. I can't take such a person very seriously.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Spandau: 3:25pm On Nov 20, 2023
TemplarLandry:
The worst democratic government is better than any gaddamn military government. Deal with it.

I dedicate “BAD TILL ETERNITY” by Blaqbonez feat. Zlatan to OBJ.
Great jam!

Dude, I don't think your outburst was necessary. No where in his speech did OBJ mention a recourse to military rule. Of course there must be other systems of governance that could be invented to suit the peculiar experiences and expectations of a people; and that is what the old man is advocating for. It is only a mad person that will continue to do the same thing while expecting a different result.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Arabk25: 3:37pm On Nov 20, 2023
JuanDeDios:

So what's the alternative? Have you lived under a dictatorship before?
Let's experience it and compare democracy isn't for Africans
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by holyfather(m): 3:40pm On Nov 20, 2023
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Rukevwe999(m): 3:47pm On Nov 20, 2023
Democracy is a very cunning government, it doesn't function well in places like here where there is high ignorance and illiteracy. What we're practicing in Nigeria is adulterated democracy, almost lapping into oligarchy. Let's not deceive ourselves democracy here is government of the political class, by the political class, for the political class.

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Tochi360: 3:49pm On Nov 20, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Igbo man weldone oooo

grin You and the mofo wey you quote be shameless tribalist,e no possible for una two to ever make sense 😄
The only thing wey fit come out from two of una tribally bigoted hateful coconut head na
Hsdhrdh csssauggh vssf,bjittr gsaaout cdyoyc xdyifrr gsuurf nooya plkcsa jut,hitryhhvb ,hiyutr grin grin
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Cromagnon: 3:59pm On Nov 20, 2023
HeatSeeker:
It is better than the alternative of military intervention in governance.

We only need to develop truly home grown processes and solutions to our internal realities. We do not necessarily need to copy verbatim everything the western world dictates as the "best", we can work around their template and find something suitable for us.
Something like what?
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Cromagnon: 4:00pm On Nov 20, 2023
EyeCumInPiece:
Black man is too crude and primitive for Democracy.
Turns to jungle rule when you add tribalism and religious bigotry
White man used to be crude
Problem is we think democracy is an overnight something
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Dannydavito: 4:01pm On Nov 20, 2023
What we practice in Nigeria is Northern/ southwest democracy.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by JuanDeDios: 4:03pm On Nov 20, 2023
Arabk25:

Let's experience it and compare democracy isn't for Africans
So you have not experienced it. Well, I pray you don't. One day, you will thank me for this prayer.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Bluntemperor: 4:05pm On Nov 20, 2023
TemplarLandry:
The worst democratic government is better than any gaddamn military government. Deal with it.
I dedicate “BAD TILL ETERNITY” by Blaqbonez feat. Zlatan to OBJ.
Great jam!

What Is OBJ saying?
Is it that he did not benefits from it,for 8- yrs ,he was traveling up and down and could not established Industries for the Youths,nor did he deepened the Democracy he benefited from!
How did he got a University?
How did he got a Presidential Library and almost got 3rd - Terms of of his own Agenda?
So,a leader sees a Country as good but once he leaves the Office, Democracy is not good,abi?
African Leaders are funny,o!
Did you obey the Rules of Democracy- of Majority and by Majority- so during your time,no Rigging?
You benefited as a Military and also as Civilian President but Nigerians don't feel the Economic Impacts or any Legacies left behind, so what is Baba OBJ telling us now?
When you people were there in Govt - how many Refineries were Functional,
How many Roads were Completed in the South West- your domain because the People in the S/ West did not votes your Party- PDP,but if you had done the needful, today People will be proud of you!
If Democracy is not Working,it's because of the African Leaders
are full of - Corruption,Greed, Politics-with Bitterness, Deception of the Masses etc, even the Youths are deceived by their own gauliblility!

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by arsenal33: 4:09pm On Nov 20, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
What did you do about the system when you're the president or you're just noticing now?
he wanted 3rd term

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Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by taiwotimitt: 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2023
OBJ should just go and sleep..............
he has been speaking trash lately..............
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by blesdman(m): 4:16pm On Nov 20, 2023
HeatSeeker:
It is better than the alternative of military intervention in governance.

We only need to develop truly home grown processes and solutions to our internal realities. We do not necessarily need to copy verbatim everything the western world dictates as the "best", we can work around their template and find something suitable for us.
Obasanjo is right.
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by Afamed: 4:19pm On Nov 20, 2023
From the same old man who planted illegal 3rd while in office
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by MatrixCircle: 4:28pm On Nov 20, 2023
Keep Holy Bible and Holy Quran aside and swear in our Elected officials with our local shrines and gods , you will see our democracy working very well. Everyone will start obeying rule of laws.

Borrowed religion which has become our false enterprises are the problem. grin
Re: Western Democracy Not Working For Africa – Obasanjo by themanderon: 4:32pm On Nov 20, 2023
It is failing because we have sit-tight criminals who have hijacked the commonwealth of the people for themselves and their families.

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