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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by MetaPhysical: 6:40am On Nov 28, 2023
Iga Obanikoro is in Idu Oluwo (also called Idoluwo). Obanikoro has never resided in Idumota. There is no way he could.

Obanikoro is Akarigbere, but Idumota belonged to Idejo. The Idejo have all become Kings today after their upgrade.

Onikoyi, Elegushi, Onitolo, Onisemo, Onitana...all had their Igas in Idumota.

Between Idumota and Idoluwo there is a separation, called Idushagbe. Idushagbe is the only IDU without an Iga. All other IDUs have an Iga in the domain.

The reason for that is because Awo Opa is kept at Ishagbe. The Ishagbe settlement became known as Idushagbe.

Each IDU is linked by an OJU to the next one. Hence we have Oju Olobun linking Idumota to Iduganran, Oju Olokun linking Iduntafa to Idumagbo, Oju Irowo linked Iduntafa to Iduganran. These are just examples.

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Airlord2030: 6:41am On Nov 28, 2023
Untimely death shall claim the life of this oba
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Kukutenla: 6:50am On Nov 28, 2023
Christistruth03:



I. Yoruba Culture Ijebuland is one entity not to be Balkanized because Awujale is the highest Traditional of them all unless you want to return their Ancestral Territory to them

That would be half of Lagos State Land Mass Please

Everything East and North of Lekki including Ikorodu



Stop writing trash. I asked you a question and your sidestep with trash. Can you give an example of a Yoruba becoming governor while not being an indigene of that state?
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Christistruth03: 7:28am On Nov 28, 2023
cool
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Christistruth03: 7:31am On Nov 28, 2023
Kukutenla:

Stop writing trash. I asked you a question and your sidestep with trash. Can you give an example of a Yoruba becoming governor while not being an indigene of that state?



Let us call a Spade a Spade
.

aregbesola who is from kogi has Governed Osun State twice

Bukola Saraki who was Governor of Kwara Twice is an Egba from Abeokuta

Gbenga Daniel who Governed Ogun once has Delta State roots

Please now show us any of your Own SE Governors that was a non Indigene of the State he Governed

So we know and are Certain that it is not divisive Hypocrisy that we are dealing with


Oore of Otun Ekiti who is Traditionally the most powerful and Significant Ekiti Ruler is an Awori Lagos king who migrated to Ekiti
Traditionally he is still the Leader of the Ekiti Parapo Pelu Pelu Towns

If you humble yourself you will learn so much from Yoruba History and Tradition that will greatly benefit even your own People

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by ravensckar(m): 7:43am On Nov 28, 2023
Christistruth03:



Basorun Ga came from Basorun Iga that is what the Oyo people first called him because he was in charge of a Military Compound (Iga)
Which today would be likened to s Military Baracks


Ok what does Gaha mean ?

It was only the way some people pronounced Ga which came from the Yoruba Word Iga
I think you're deliberately misrepresenting the facts here just to make your point. Firstly, the title of Basorun means that he's the leader of Oyo-Mesi (the administrative arm of the old Oyo Empire). It's also not unusual for such person to oversee the military especially if he's capable. e.g Basorun Ogunmola. The Gaha which was contained therein was his name or alias and not jurisdiction. If you want to argue jurisdiction, Basorun Gaha was in charge of all internal and external affairs in old Oyo-Ile. So, it doesn't make sense that the Gaha in his name meant 'Iga' which literally means a small settlement. You need to understand how Yoruba language works because you dabble into stuffs like this.

Secondly, the Gaha could be his name, alias or eulogy (as far as anyone knows). But one thing is certain, it has nothing to do with 'Iga'. In Yoruba Literature, one word could mean several things depending on it's usage. For example, there's a saying in Yoruba land that; 'E se gaaya' which means please excuse or make way.

There's another saying that; 'Mo fe se ga' which means I want to use the restroom.

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Patriotsleague: 8:05am On Nov 28, 2023
[quote author=Ttipsy post=127199135]influence ? Same way the British influence us with English language.
What are are you talking about??
Why are we not seeing Bono/Edo language influence in onitsha? Ikwerre ? Lagos ? [/quot

At this point in history, there were not as much people in Nigeria and those communities were empty/scanty, the Aworis who were the associates/escorts of the Benin Prince speak a distinct dialect of Yoruba language very similar to Benin people, as time goes on, indegenous languages are formulated.

Benin empire had no aim of colonization like the British, we occupied those areas and opened it up, then population was scanty. When the Benin Prince got to Ile'Ife, it was a forest area, nobody was living there, indegenous yorubas were scattered across southwest but they had no organized society. The Benin Prince created Ile'Ife and became the first king, same thing happened in Lagos. Lagos island was a forest when Benin people came, more than 500 years ago.


Benin people had been civilized a long time, when you people have not even thought of building societies, just indegenous people picking fruits and hunting game in bushes.

Read the interview from Oba of Lagos.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/amp
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Kukutenla: 8:11am On Nov 28, 2023
Christistruth03:




Let us call a Spade a Spade
.

aregbesola who is from kogi has Governed Osun State twice

Bukola Saraki who was Governor of Kwara Twice is an Egba from Abeokuta

Gbenga Daniel who Governed Ogun once has Delta State roots

Please now show us any of your Own SE Governors that was a non Indigene of the State he Governed

So we know and are Certain that it is not divisive Hypocrisy that we are dealing with


Oore of Otun Ekiti who is Traditionally the most powerful and Significant Ekiti Ruler is an Awori Lagos king who migrated to Ekiti
Traditionally he is still the Leader of the Ekiti Parapo Pelu Pelu Towns

If you humble yourself you will learn so much from Yoruba History and Tradition that will greatly benefit even your own People
grin grin grin
You forgot to add Akala is from CoteDivoire
Bisi Alande is an Ebira man
Segun Osoba is Egun from Benin Republic
You're full of trash
Clown
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Patriotsleague: 8:11am On Nov 28, 2023
Twistaray:



Lool
It's more foolish to be hawking something you don't even understand what it means.

Below is the complete video, don't be dunce.

https://twitter.com/BasedLagos07/status/1729114108929429941?t=ppng9bio5BsylTG2OUB35A&s=08
You stupid idiot, Reuben abati and Rufai talked about you fools in the news yesterday, seems you idiots are hell bent on revising history, but it has failed... Benin empire controlling Lagos is a known fact, it is in recent history. The Benin empire collected taxes in Lagos, even Aworis who are Benin ancestrally paid royalties to Benin king. You ignorant kid, better learn, instead of using childish logic, go and use this dumb logic on your dumb heads.

You are most likely not even a lagosian but one of the poverty stricken people of southwest who don't count.

Intelligent readers, read the interview by Erelu Dosunmu, in vanguard newspaper, letting the world know Benin empire created Lagos.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/lagos-is-an-extension-of-benin-erelu-dosunmu/%3famp

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Raf4: 9:09am On Nov 28, 2023
bigwig071:
ok apart from Lagos sea ports what can one say that they are going to any of the yoruba land for?

I don't understand this your question, can you reframe it?

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by reality1010: 10:10am On Nov 28, 2023
LegendHero:
It’s is no more news that Oba of Benin is on a visit to Lagos state and during one of his interaction today, he mentioned that Benin people found Lagos.

Source: https:///damiadenuga/status/1729091675207921941?s=46&t=oGAxjhiGeufNKlYA6fDTyA

CC: Mynd44
I like Obas they have history intact with them and anytime the opportunity comes they dish it out to correct lies.
It was one Benin Oba that corrected the falshood that Benin was found by Oduduwa. He rather clarified that Oduduwa was a Benin prince who left Benin during chose to establish the Yoruba kingdom, and along the line when Benin had issues Oduduwa was called to come back but he refused and sent Oramiyo his son who started a new dynasty.
When the Oba made that statement no Yoruba Historian debunked his fact rather they went silent.
Today, another Oba has brought out the fact that Lagos belongs to the Benin people. Those who are talking don't even know their history. No amount of your posts on social media can change history. It is there.
Some parts of Lagos are owned by the Ijaws too.
In Jos, the main town is owned by the Anaguta people, not the present-day Hausa Fulanis. Aba and some of its environs are owned by the Ibibio people, not the Ngwa people.
Let's learn to respect our traditional rulers who are well knowledgeable in culture to guide us.
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by DeOTR: 10:32am On Nov 28, 2023
ShoeGetSize:
Benin also has an Oba. In fact, he's not known by any other title apart from Oba, unlike Ooni and Alaafin. This signifies that he is a superior monarch to those two.
Just tell me the meaning of Oba in Bini apart from being a title for the Bini Supreme Leader?
I can tell you the meaning of each of the syllables of the word, Oba, in Yoruba language.
The word is a proper noun in Yoruba which is a generic name for a King, and not a title. We have Ooni, Deji, Alaafin, Awujale and so on, because that's the specific title of the traditional leader of the particularly city state.
How can any Town/City make Oba the title of their King when anyone can name their child as such?
Oba is a Yoruba word borrowed by the Binis as the title of their King.
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by bigwig071(m): 11:29am On Nov 28, 2023
Raf4:


I don't understand this your question, can you reframe it?
the Lagos seaports are the only that can attract non yorubas to yoruba land
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by sotall(m): 11:52am On Nov 28, 2023
Twistaray:


Isn't the word ' Oba ' more than enough to start with , with reality reality and no historian record of the word ' Oba ' in Edo language? Lool grin

No historical what?

The word Oba is as old as Edo language itself.

Its even used in daily salutations.

The Obas in Yoruba land are a very recent thing.

Before 1930, there was no known Oba in Yoruba land.

We know Ooni of Ife, we know Alafin of Oyo and other titles but no Oba.

But the Oba of Benin have been using that title for hundreds of years even before the white men came.

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Twistaray(m): 2:29pm On Nov 28, 2023
Patriotsleague:

You stupid idiot, Reuben abati and Rufai talked about you fools in the news yesterday, seems you idiots are hell bent on revising history, but it has failed... Benin empire controlling Lagos is a known fact, it is in recent history. The Benin empire collected taxes in Lagos, even Aworis who are Benin ancestrally paid royalties to Benin king. You ignorant kid, better learn, instead of using childish logic, go and use this dumb logic on your dumb heads.

You are most likely not even a lagosian but one of the poverty stricken people of southwest who don't count.

Intelligent readers, read the interview by Erelu Dosunmu, in vanguard newspaper, letting the world know Benin empire created Lagos.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/lagos-is-an-extension-of-benin-erelu-dosunmu/%3famp

Reube Abiti ko, Renden Abuti ni.
You couldn't even provide any facts or anything to buttress your claim all you do is throw insults because you are weak and lack facts. Swerve Jo, kiddo with the toothless mouth.

Stupid broken link.
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Twistaray(m): 2:30pm On Nov 28, 2023
sotall:


No historical what?

The word Oba is as old as Edo language itself.

Its even used in daily salutations.

The Obas in Yoruba land are a very recent thing.

Before 1930, there was no known Oba in Yoruba land.

We know Ooni of Ife, we know Alafin of Oyo and other titles but no Oba.

But the Oba of Benin have been using that title for hundreds of years even before the white men came.


You'll explain taaayaaa. You lack facts.

Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by sotall(m): 2:35pm On Nov 28, 2023
Twistaray:



You'll explain taaayaaa. You lack facts.
Bring more revisionism...this one you uploaded aint enough.
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Twistaray(m): 2:36pm On Nov 28, 2023
sotall:

Bring more revisionism...this one you uploaded aint enough.

https://www.coursehero.com/file/141714088/Head-of-an-Oba-from-Benindocx/

Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by sotall(m): 2:40pm On Nov 28, 2023
Twistaray:


https://www.coursehero.com/file/141714088/Head-of-an-Oba-from-Benindocx/

Debunk what i Said.
Before 1930, there were no known Oba in Yoruba land.

Their traditional rulers were called Ooni, Alafin and the rest.

The only traditional ruler with the Oba title was the Oba of Benin.

The "Oba" title is a shortened form of his full title

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Twistaray(m): 2:45pm On Nov 28, 2023
sotall:


Debunk what i Said.
Before 1930, there were no known Oba in Yoruba land.

Their traditional rulers were called Ooni, Alafin and the rest.

The only traditional ruler with the Oba title was the Oba of Benin.

The "Oba" title is a shortened form of his full title

Lool
You are now sounding powerless.

Is the ' Oba ' the main bone of contention in the first place, please read the OP again. Lool.


Below is another raw image and fact.

Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Twistaray(m): 2:48pm On Nov 28, 2023
sotall:


Debunk what i Said.
Before 1930, there were no known Oba in Yoruba land.

Their traditional rulers were called Ooni, Alafin and the rest.

The only traditional ruler with the Oba title was the Oba of Benin.

The "Oba" title is a shortened form of his full title

Below is a video of your Oba visiting Ife to pay homage to the leadership of Oni and his ancestor's heads buried in Ile Ife.

https://twitter.com/tboysbt/status/1722490831666299043?t=loTTIDEZe71sH6K1rWnfqQ&s=33

grin
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by sotall(m): 2:49pm On Nov 28, 2023
Twistaray:


Lool
You are now sounding powerless.

Is the ' Oba ' the main bone of contention in the first place, please read the OP again. Lool.


Below is another raw image and fact.
We are talking about history, this wan is bringing a 1937 rubbish written by one Yoruba revisionist.

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Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by sotall(m): 2:51pm On Nov 28, 2023
Twistaray:


Below is a video of your Oba visiting Ife to pay homage to the leadership of Oni and his ancestor's heads buried in Ile Ife.

https://twitter.com/tboysbt/status/1722490831666299043?t=loTTIDEZe71sH6K1rWnfqQ&s=33

grin

How does this change the fact that Oba of Benin was the first traditional ruler in Nigeria to have the Oba title?

How does this thing you uploaded disprove that Eko was ruled by the Benins.
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Twistaray(m): 2:51pm On Nov 28, 2023
sotall:

We are talking about history, this wan is bringing a 1937 rubbish written by one Yoruba revisionist.

Did you watch the video showing your Oba paying homage to Ife and to where his ancestors were buried in Ife, above?


This is another foreign video providing you with The facts.

Watch the video. cheesy

https://twitter.com/tboysbt/status/1722490831666299043?t=eZLeKOEIYR-PHs-1SETCCw&s=08
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Twistaray(m): 2:59pm On Nov 28, 2023
sotall:


How does this change the fact that Oba of Benin was the first traditional ruler in Nigeria to have the Oba title?

How does this thing you uploaded disprove that Eko was ruled by the Benins.

This image was taken in a foreign museum.
Here is what you asked for. cool

Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Raf4: 10:43pm On Nov 28, 2023
bigwig071:
the Lagos seaports are the only that can attract non yorubas to yoruba land

Xmas is around the corner when you'll all head down to the SE. Ask your co-immigrants how Lagos seaports attracted them to Ibadan, Shagamu, Osogbo Ife, Akure, Ore, Ekiti and many other Yoruba cities/towns/villages.
Re: Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin by Justiceleague1: 12:20pm On Dec 09, 2023
Patriotsleaguee:

You sound like a fool , Oba Akiolu said the same thing Oba of Benin said, Benin empire established Lagos, and ile'ife.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/amp
Chai!!!
Na totit life dem round up and summerize like this!!!!?
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