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How can it please God, the same God that told us to be different from the world and its taste for worldy things or the same God that told us to be modest in dressing and appearance.

Romans 12:2 ESV / 53 helpful votes
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.


1 Peter 3:3-5 ESV / 41 helpful votes
Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands,

Stop letting your emotions, becloud your sense of judgement, God cannot be mocked.

blueAgent:

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How can it please God, the same God that told us to be different from the world and its taste for worldy things or the same God that told us to be modest in dressing and appearance.

Romans 12:2 ESV / 53 helpful votes
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.


1 Peter 3:3-5 ESV / 41 helpful votes
Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands,

Stop letting your emotions, becloud your sense of judgement, God cannot be mocked.

Thank you for these verses you just quoted. I have come to the fact that people quote the Bible without better understanding of the context nor the pretext and the text after the verse you choose or decide to digest on. Quote the exact place in the Bible that says dreadlock is a sin or where it says how exactly one should dress!

According to your 2nd quote, i would like to ask if your clothings has been internal. Have you not been wearing cloths? Are you bald at the moment?? If you really understand that passage you will know God wasn't talking about the literal meaning of adornment but to have a pleasing and holy spirit and wives be submissive etc..

Besides how do you know his act does not please God Did God tell you that Himself?? Is there a certain way Christians should dress??

Like i said modesty and moderation should be Christians template for dressing, fellowship with God and love others etc

Do not disqualify others for God! He knows how to handle everyone - of course He created us!

Ire o!

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Thank you for these verses you just quoted. I have come to the fact that people quote the Bible without better understanding of the context nor the pretext and the text after the verse you choose or decide to digest on. Quote the exact place in the Bible that says dreadlock is a sin or where it says how exactly one should dress!

According to your 2nd quote, i would like to ask if your clothings has been internal. Have you not been wearing cloths? Are you bald at the moment?? If you really understand that passage you will know God wasn't talking about the literal meaning of adornment but to have a pleasing and holy spirit and wives be submissive etc..

Besides how do you know his act does not please God Did God tell you that Himself?? Is there a certain way Christians should dress??

Like i said modesty and moderation should be Christians template for dressing, fellowship with God and love others etc

Do not disqualify others for God! He knows how to handle everyone - of course He created us!

Ire o!

You keep making excuses.

Just note.

God cannot be not mocked

blueAgent:


You keep making excuses.

Just note.

God cannot be not mocked

Also note do not disqualify people for God..it's not in anyone's place to do that.
Let everyone focus on their faiths.

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Also note do not disqualify people for God..it's not in anyone's place to do that.
Let everyone focus on their faiths.

Story.

God has already made his standard clear, there is no doubt or beating about the Bush about it.

blueAgent:


Story.

God has already made his standard clear, there is no doubt or beating about the Bush about it.

Exactly!
So let him or anyone follow the standard God has made clear. Follow your own and don't judge others that are not following yours.

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Exactly!
So let him or anyone follow the standard God has made clear. Follow your own and don't judge others that are not following yours.

Why do you think God gave us standards?
The purpose is to correct those who are going astray.

Galatians 6:1-6
1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by
the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or
you also may be tempted.
2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law
of Christ.
3 If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they
deceive themselves.
4 Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride
in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone
else,
5 for each one should carry their own load.
6 Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should
share all good things with their instructor.



Many people cite Matthew 7:1 about not judging others, but
they never bother to read down to verse 6, where Jesus says,
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls
before swine….” He was talking about people who are dogs and
swine! To obey verse 6, you must make some judgmental
decisions about the person’s character! “That guy is a dog! That
guy is a swine!”
Also, if you keep reading (Matt. 7:15 ), Jesus says, “Beware of the
false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but
inwardly are ravenous wolves.” It takes a discerning sheep to
recognize, “That’s not a true sheep! That’s a wolf dressed like a
sheep!” It requires judging the man’s teaching as false.
We live in times when tolerance, unity, and “love” (which
usually means, being nice) are dominant themes in the
evangelical church. If you dare to confront or expose sin, or if
you label someone’s teaching as unbiblical, or the person as a
false teacher, you get accused of being judgmental and
unloving. But the Bible is clear that a pastor is being extremely
unloving to allow wolves to prey on the flock or to allow
sinning believers to infect the flock without confronting and
exposing them.
Note Romans 16:17-18 : “Now I urge you, brethren, keep your
eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to
the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. For
such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own
appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they
deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting.”
Some would say that it’s okay to expose the false doctrine in
general terms, but that you should never specifically name a
false teacher. I’ve been criticized and have had people leave the
church because I have named men like Norman Vincent Peale
or Robert Schuller as false teachers. But in 1 Timothy 1:19 , Paul
mentions that some have rejected faith and a good conscience,
“and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith.” He doesn’t
leave it there, but goes on (1:20), “Among these are Hymenaeus
and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they
will be taught not to blaspheme.” In 2 Timothy 2:17 , he names
Hymenaeus and Philetus, adding (2:18), “men who have gone
astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already
taken place, and they upset the faith of some.”
In 2 Timothy 4:10 , Paul tells Timothy, “Demas, having loved this
present world, has deserted me….” In verse 14, he warns
Timothy about “Alexander the coppersmith,” who did Paul
much harm. In 3 John 9-10 , the apostle of love warns the flock
about “Diotrephes, who loves to be first among them,” but
“does not accept what we say.” Paul names two quarreling
ladies, Euodia and Syntyche, urging them “to live in harmony
in the Lord” (Phil. 4:2 ). He pointedly tells the church in
Colossae, “Say to Archippus, ‘Take heed to your
ministry’” (Col. 4:17 ). He named names!
The apostles were not, in any of these instances, wrongly
judging others. So we must conclude that it is not judging
someone to exercise discernment about ungodly behavior or
false teaching.
(2). IT IS NOT JUDGING SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO HIM (AND, IF
NECESSARY, TO OTHERS) ABOUT SIN OR FALSE TEACHING.
I’ve heard people say, “I could never confront anyone about
their sin, because we’re not supposed to judge others. Let him
who is without sin cast the first stone!” But this is to dodge a
difficult, but loving, responsibility. If you see your child about
to run in front of a speeding car, you would do everything in
your power to warn him. If you see a brother in Christ about to
ruin his life by sin or by believing false, damnable doctrine,
love should motivate you to do everything possible to warn
him.
In our text, James was not being judgmental by confronting this
sin in the church. In James 5:19-20 , he states, “My brethren, if
any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back,
let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his
way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of
sins.”
On a personal level, such confrontation is the responsibility of
every spiritual believer (Gal. 6:1 ). It should begin in private,
unless the sin is public to start with (Gal. 2:11-14 ; 1 Cor. 5:1-13 ).
If the sinning person does not listen to you, then take another
mature believer with you, or involve someone else who can try
to minister to the sinning person. If he still refuses to listen, it
may be necessary to tell it to the entire church and to remove
the person from the fellowship (Matt. 18:15-18 ).

blueAgent:


Why do you think God gave us standards?
The purpose is to correct those who are going astray.

Galatians 6:1-6
1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by
the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or
you also may be tempted.
2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law
of Christ.
3 If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they
deceive themselves.
4 Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride
in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone
else,
5 for each one should carry their own load.
6 Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should
share all good things with their instructor.



Many people cite Matthew 7:1 about not judging others, but
they never bother to read down to verse 6, where Jesus says,
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls
before swine….” He was talking about people who are dogs and
swine! To obey verse 6, you must make some judgmental
decisions about the person’s character! “That guy is a dog! That
guy is a swine!”
Also, if you keep reading (Matt. 7:15 ), Jesus says, “Beware of the
false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but
inwardly are ravenous wolves.” It takes a discerning sheep to
recognize, “That’s not a true sheep! That’s a wolf dressed like a
sheep!” It requires judging the man’s teaching as false.
We live in times when tolerance, unity, and “love” (which
usually means, being nice) are dominant themes in the
evangelical church. If you dare to confront or expose sin, or if
you label someone’s teaching as unbiblical, or the person as a
false teacher, you get accused of being judgmental and
unloving. But the Bible is clear that a pastor is being extremely
unloving to allow wolves to prey on the flock or to allow
sinning believers to infect the flock without confronting and
exposing them.
Note Romans 16:17-18 : “Now I urge you, brethren, keep your
eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to
the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. For
such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own
appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they
deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting.”
Some would say that it’s okay to expose the false doctrine in
general terms, but that you should never specifically name a
false teacher. I’ve been criticized and have had people leave the
church because I have named men like Norman Vincent Peale
or Robert Schuller as false teachers. But in 1 Timothy 1:19 , Paul
mentions that some have rejected faith and a good conscience,
“and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith.” He doesn’t
leave it there, but goes on (1:20), “Among these are Hymenaeus
and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they
will be taught not to blaspheme.” In 2 Timothy 2:17 , he names
Hymenaeus and Philetus, adding (2:18), “men who have gone
astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already
taken place, and they upset the faith of some.”
In 2 Timothy 4:10 , Paul tells Timothy, “Demas, having loved this
present world, has deserted me….” In verse 14, he warns
Timothy about “Alexander the coppersmith,” who did Paul
much harm. In 3 John 9-10 , the apostle of love warns the flock
about “Diotrephes, who loves to be first among them,” but
“does not accept what we say.” Paul names two quarreling
ladies, Euodia and Syntyche, urging them “to live in harmony
in the Lord” (Phil. 4:2 ). He pointedly tells the church in
Colossae, “Say to Archippus, ‘Take heed to your
ministry’” (Col. 4:17 ). He named names!
The apostles were not, in any of these instances, wrongly
judging others. So we must conclude that it is not judging
someone to exercise discernment about ungodly behavior or
false teaching.
(2). IT IS NOT JUDGING SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO HIM (AND, IF
NECESSARY, TO OTHERS) ABOUT SIN OR FALSE TEACHING.
I’ve heard people say, “I could never confront anyone about
their sin, because we’re not supposed to judge others. Let him
who is without sin cast the first stone!” But this is to dodge a
difficult, but loving, responsibility. If you see your child about
to run in front of a speeding car, you would do everything in
your power to warn him. If you see a brother in Christ about to
ruin his life by sin or by believing false, damnable doctrine,
love should motivate you to do everything possible to warn
him.
In our text, James was not being judgmental by confronting this
sin in the church. In James 5:19-20 , he states, “My brethren, if
any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back,
let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his
way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of
sins.”
On a personal level, such confrontation is the responsibility of
every spiritual believer (Gal. 6:1 ). It should begin in private,
unless the sin is public to start with (Gal. 2:11-14 ; 1 Cor. 5:1-13 ).
If the sinning person does not listen to you, then take another
mature believer with you, or involve someone else who can try
to minister to the sinning person. If he still refuses to listen, it
may be necessary to tell it to the entire church and to remove
the person from the fellowship (Matt. 18:15-18 ).

Trust me i am not reading all of these. Go back, read for me and bold where it says dreadlock is a sin. You believe your outward appearance is OK for God which is fine and same with others.
Until you are ready to quote scriptures where the above is stated then we can begin our Bible study until then enough said! It's Monday morning.

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Trust me i am not reading all of these. Go back, read for me and bold where it says dreadlock is a sin. You believe your outward appearance is OK for God which is fine and same with others.
Until you are ready to quote scriptures where the above is stated then we can begin our Bible study until then enough said! It's Monday morning.

Its obvious you are, one of the gullible fellows that are easily brainwashed.

False teachings are the reason while we have false pastors like the Rev King, who burnt his members.
Or the ones that feed there members with reptiles and all sort of rubbish.

Once a so called Man of God ,dresses and acts like the world you don't need any soothsayer or bible verse to tell you he is a false prophet.
Mind you the bible instructs us to Judge in accordance to God's word and truth.

Am not a pastor, neither am a born again christain.
But I hate deceit, how someone would still live and act like the worldy ppl and still claim to be a Man of God, is annoying and a slap to our sense of reasoning.

If a woman of God, dresses like a harlots would feel she is representing God's image or office well?

blueAgent:


Its obvious you are, one of the gullible fellows that are easily brainwashed.

False teachings are the reason while we have false pastors like the Rev King, who burnt his members.
Or the ones that feed there members with reptiles and all sort of rubbish.

Once a so called Man of God ,dresses and acts like the world you don't need any soothsayer or bible verse to tell you he is a false prophet.
Mind you the bible instructs us to Judge in accordance to God's word and truth.

Am not a pastor, neither am a born again christain.
But I hate deceit, how someone would still live and act like the worldy ppl and still claim to be a Man of God, is annoying and a slap to our sense of reasoning.

If a woman of God, dresses like a harlots would feel she is representing God's image or office well?

Worldly because he has dreads

Oyinbo pastors get tattoo,wear shorts etc and they are fireeee on the alter.

We honestly need to change our orientation and stop being an hypocrite. Remember In all of my quotes i mentioned modesty and moderation in everything especially dressing to Christians. NO ONE can dictate what or how to dress to me so far I am not making anyone fall through my dressing. To see the kingdom of God goes beyond the dreads on your head nor the earrings you use.

There are verses in the bible that says God Himself adorned us with Gold and we look like His bride, are there not people in the Bible with dreads?.....it is needless to go deep into that as i am getting bored already with this conversation.

On this note, I rest my case.

NameInUse:



Worldly because he has dreads

Is Christ your model or oyinbo ppl?, who are yiu suppose to imitate?
We honestly need to change our orientation and stop being an hypocrite. Remember In all of my quotes i mentioned modesty and moderation in everything especially dressing to Christians. NO ONE can dictate what or how to dress to me so far I am not making anyone fall through my dressing. To see the kingdom of God goes beyond the dreads on your head nor the earrings you use.

There are verses in the bible that says God Himself adorned us with Gold and we look like His bride, are there not people in the Bible with dreads?.....it is needless to go deep into that as i am getting bored already with this conversation.

On this note, I rest my case.

Do you know that the Bible describes Jesus as not good looking physically?

Isaiah 53:2
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.


So tell me what would motivate, a so called Man of God to do dreads,make Tattoo and wear earrings.

What is he trying to achieve with that?
Ppl would frown if a president of a country dresses that way, how much more one ,who is representing a higher authority.

blueAgent:


Do you know that the Bible describes Jesus as not good looking physically?

Isaiah 53:2
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.


So tell me what would motivate, a so called Man of God to do dreads,make Tattoo and wear earrings.

What is he trying to achieve with that?
Ppl would frown if a president of a country dresses that way, how much more one ,who is representing a higher authority.

Guy! You need to change your OT.
Some things are just morally right/wrong and not biblically right/wrong. Choose your path and i hope you find peace with it. I will no longer respond because it's obvious your understanding is somewhat and besides this conversation is getting really boring and lengthy.

God bless you!