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Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Biodun556(m): 9:17pm On Nov 29, 2023
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Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by ican2020: 9:20pm On Nov 29, 2023
Biodun556:
Lagos state has 52 officially recognized kings. Geographical location and economic advantage is what gives 1 of the 52 title " Oba of Lagos" over the rest. If ignorance continue to make people stares controversy, the Lagos state house of assembly should enact a law and review the title to something else.

Oba isale eko is better
No go kill yourself

There nothing anyone can do about it Benin is the owner of Lagos
Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by sreamsense: 9:45pm On Nov 29, 2023
GO0DHardDick:
Nobody takes Yoluba people serious in this country.

I stand with our oba of Benin 💯
You can do better than just standing with Oba of Benin. Advise him to issue date for yorubas to vacate Lagos will be a better option or what is the essence of barking only without being able to bite? Yorubas keep enjoying Lagos in practical even without remembering to put single ipob/biafran people like you into political position of Lagos state after abuse of exalted positions.

You keep shouting theory, while yorubas keep enjoying practical governance of Lagos State. Issue utimatum on permission of oba of Benin you are standing with for yorubas so people can take you serious
Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Biodun556(m): 5:34pm On Dec 02, 2023
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Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Christistruth00: 6:58pm On Dec 02, 2023
It was even Ife that founded Igodomigodo and Benin


Obagodo the first Ogiso that founded Igodomigodo Kingdom was an Ife man
Igodomigodo is now Benin

Obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo

Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Christistruth00: 7:01pm On Dec 02, 2023
grin


Obagodo the first Ogiso who founded Igodomigodo now Benin
was sent from Ife and was an Ife man

Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Christistruth03: 2:16am On Dec 09, 2023
christistruth01:


Eko is the way the yoruba Ijebu pronounced ereko after ereko Market on the Island where King Kosoko's European and Slave Markets were located and where he traded with the Ijebu who sold him slaves from the hinterland

Eko (ereko) means field in yoruba and erekosun means Island

ereko Market is still on lagos Island today!

There is eko Ende (field at the back ) and eko Ajala ( Ajala's field) Towns in Osun State .

eko Ende was one of the Locations of the Jalumi War of 1878 against the Ilorins



By the way Benin is from a Yoruba Word Ile Ibinu which Prince Oranmiyan of Ile Ife called them but we're are not interested in dragging Benin or it's History with them



2nd Photo shows Eko Ende, Eko Onde and Eko Ajala all in Osun State

Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by ImperialYoruba: 3:11am On Dec 09, 2023
Biodun556:
Lagos state has 52 officially recognized kings. Geographical location and economic advantage is what gives 1 of the 52 title " Oba of Lagos" over the rest. If ignorance continue to make people stares controversy, the Lagos state house of assembly should enact a law and review the title to something else.

Oba isale eko is better

This suggestion is devoid of logic.

There is only 1 Oba in the entire Lagos Island.
The term " Lagos" is unique to Lagos Island.
It is inorganic to apply "Lagos" to the entire State, many parts of which were redistricted from Western region.

Change title for the state. Call it Awori State,

Aromire is the land baron, Oba of Lagos is the Monarch. A perfect balance!
Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Biodun556(m): 9:06am On Dec 09, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


This suggestion is devoid of logic.

There is only 1 Oba in the entire Lagos Island.
The term " Lagos" is unique to Lagos Island.
It is inorganic to apply "Lagos" to the entire State, many parts of which were redistricted from Western region.

Change title for the state. Call it Awori State,

Aromire is the land baron, Oba of Lagos is the Monarch. A perfect balance!



Then he should be Oba of Lagos island not oba of Lagos so that his Ogiso people will know their limit and what to claim if at all anything belongs to them
Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Biodun556(m): 9:07am On Dec 09, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


This suggestion is devoid of logic.

There is only 1 Oba in the entire Lagos Island.
The term " Lagos" is unique to Lagos Island.
It is inorganic to apply "Lagos" to the entire State, many parts of which were redistricted from Western region.

Change title for the state. Call it Awori State,

Aromire is the land baron, Oba of Lagos is the Monarch. A perfect balance!


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Then he should be Oba of Lagos island not oba of Lagos so that his Ogiso people will know their limit and what to claim if at all anything belongs to them
Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by Christistruth00: 2:59pm On Dec 09, 2023
Biodun556:


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Then he should be Oba of Lagos island not oba of Lagos so that his Ogiso people will know their limit and what to claim if at all anything belongs to them


He is not the Oba of Lagos Island

Onikoyi and Ikoyi on the Island are out of his Jurisdiction
Re: Lagos Should Removed The Title "Oba Of Lagos" If Ignorance Persists by ImperialYoruba: 4:27pm On Dec 09, 2023
Biodun556:


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Then he should be Oba of Lagos island not oba of Lagos so that his Ogiso people will know their limit and what to claim if at all anything belongs to them

Your reply here is worse than the logic-deficient opening on page1.

When the Ashipa dynasty started rule in Lagos, there were only two communities inhabited. The two communities were Isale Eko and Ereko. I have the map of old Lagos and narratives from oral source about its origin and development.

Portuguese later named it Lagos, and this was during Oba Kutere's reign. The fourth successor after Ashipa.

Ashipa
Ado
Gbobaro (misspelled Guabaro by European scribes)
Akinsemoyin
Kutere (popularly called Olorogun Kutere. The Olorogun in the name is a title, not his name, and means war commander, similar to Balogun)

You will find many people answer to Balogun or Bashorun, or Olorogun as surnames. These are titular offices prefixed to proper names of the office holder, but down the descendancy line children will drop the proper name and just adopt the titular rank as their legacy. This is common across Yorubaland. I will teach you what you lack in accurate history of Yorubaland.



There was nothing called Lagos Island or Lagos Mainland. These are modern appellations made popular after Yakubu Gowon built Eko bridge.

Carter bridge was older than Eko bridge and that term Lagos Island was not even a popular term prior to Eko bridge.

Before Carter bridge was built there were two ports on each side of the lagoon banks. There were produce ports in Ebute Meta for getting market produce across to Ebute Eleja in Isale Eko. There was a port at Oto for shipping hardwares and merchandise across the channel to Ebute Ero. What does this mean?

Isale Eko was residential and ports there served homestead needs for food and produce. Ereko was a market, ports adjoining it served merchants and traders.

There was another port on the southern end of Ereko, at Ehingbeti. Only sea vessels berth here.

So when Lagos was substituted for Eko, the name change did not in anyway alter the geographic settlements nor disrupt authority of the Monarchy over the domain. Oba Eko simply became Oba of Lagos. Indeed in old Portuguese records Eko was also known as Onim (sometimes spelt as Aunim or Oonim).

Interestingly in Portuguese, the "m" ending is a possessive noun, denoting attribute of ownership. Scholars believe this ONIM is a acknowledgement attributing the sphere of influence of the all-powerful Ooni's Imperial power to the coast.

The conclusion is that Oba of Lagos is authentic as the Monarch in Lagos. In its origin, Lagos did not have any other association outside of Isale Eko and Ereko. Infact, subsequent expansions and developments all were completed as domains under the Oba's power, exception being Epetedo. All other names bearing Lagos need to shift.

Let me know if you need more tutoring. grin

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