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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:58pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


The presidents of the schools erred in their responses to the question asked, and in my opinion, should all be fired.

Anyone who calls for the genocide of anyone should be sanctioned. And opposing the genocide perpetuated by Israel should be encouraged.


The genocide happening in Gaza is on the terror group Hamas not Israel. Hold Hamas responsible
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:02pm On Dec 12, 2023
Go fix your stupidity.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:02pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:
Go fix your stupidity.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:04pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


The genocide happening in Gaza is on the terror group Hamas not Israel. Hold Hamas responsible

I don't agree with this view since Hamas is not Palestine, same as I wouldn't accept the genocide of Igbos because of Ipob.

Hold Hamas responsible for the actions of Hamas, instead of getting rid of all Palestinians.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:11pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


I don't agree with this view since Hamas is not Palestine, same as I wouldn't accept the genocide of Igbos because of Ipob.

Hold Hamas responsible for the actions of Hamas, instead of getting rid of all Palestinians.

They were elected, and also have leadership, and are supported by 85% of the people. This is like saying the IDF is not Israel.

Budaatum has been saying Palestinians should fight, they should resist the one that took their land, and when they attacked Israel, Israel is fighting back... Hamas is not Palestine buda says. cheesy confused man
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:17pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:
I don't agree with this view since Hamas is not Palestine, same as I wouldn't accept the genocide of Igbos because of Ipob.

Hold Hamas responsible for the actions of Hamas, instead of getting rid of all Palestinians.

Hamas is the elected party ruling Palestine. Hamas is causing the genocide of the people. How does Israel hold Hamas responsible when Hamas build their infrastructure inside civilian locations with the intention to use them as human shield
give me practical ideas
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:21pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Hamas is the elected party ruling Palestine.

Hamas was not elected. They stole power by terror.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/was-hamas-elected-to-govern-gaza-george-w-bush-2006-palestinian-election.html

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:24pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:

How does Israel hold Hamas responsible when Hamas build their infrastructure inside civilian locations with the intention to use them as human shield give me practical ideas

Next you'd likely argue that the Palestinians choose to be used as human shields, so they deserve whatever Israel does to them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:25pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Hamas was not elected. They stole power by terror.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/was-hamas-elected-to-govern-gaza-george-w-bush-2006-palestinian-election.html

Same as the rulers of Saudi, North Korea, Russia and many countries in the world. They were not "elected by western standards" yet they are the leaders of Palestine

They form the cabinet and make the laws for Gaza

So the blood of Palestinians is in their hands fully, Nothing to do with Isreal
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:26pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Next you'd likely argue that the Palestinians choose to be used as human shields, so they deserve whatever Israel does to them.

You dont need to worry about what I will do next, The fact here is that Hamas is responsible for the death of Palestinians and should be held responsible
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:26pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Hamas is the elected party ruling Palestine. Hamas is causing the genocide of the people. How does Israel hold Hamas responsible when Hamas build their infrastructure inside civilian locations with the intention to use them as human shield
give me practical ideas

The last time I ask the other one how should israel defeat hamas without the casualties he could not say. Every hamas fighter killed is considered a civilian at this stage the numbers out there to me is not representing the actual death of civilians and hamas.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:34pm On Dec 12, 2023
bemeruca:


The last time I ask the other one how should israel defeat hamas without the casualties he could not say. Every hamas fighter killed is considered a civilian at this stage the numbers out there to me is not representing the actual death of civilians and hamas.


Its the question all f them will not answer. It only shows the only thing acceptable to them is that Israel does nothing when its citizens are murdered and wait for the next time Hamas will come murder, rappe women, rejoice gleefully, post ther pictures and videos on the internet. parade their dead bodies while jubilating and calling their parents if they are proud of them

Like the below

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:42pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


You dont need to worry about what I will do next, The fact here is that Hamas is responsible for the death of Palestinians and should be held responsible

Fact is, Hamas should be held responsible for killing and kidnapping Israelis, and Israel is responsible for wiping out Palestinians in retaliation.

It's like wiping out a whole family for the actions of one because they all live in the same house.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:45pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Same as the rulers of Saudi, North Korea, Russia and many countries in the world. They were not "elected by western standards" yet they are the leaders of Palestine

They form the cabinet and make the laws for Gaza

So the blood of Palestinians is in their hands fully, Nothing to do with Isreal

Thankfully, not many decide to therefore kill the citizens of the nations you mentioned because of what their leaders do. We humans, on the whole, seem to be more decent than that.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:53pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:



Its the question all f them will not answer. It only shows the only thing acceptable to them is that Israel does nothing when its citizens are murdered and wait for the next time Hamas will come murder, rappe women, rejoice gleefully, post ther pictures and videos on the internet. parade their dead bodies while jubilating and calling their parents if they are proud of them

Like the below

Budaatum does not distinguish between hamas and Palestinians. And he supported what hamas did. See your exchange with him in the past.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:56pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Thankfully, not many decide to therefore kill the citizens of the nations you mentioned because of what their leaders do. We humans, on the whole, seem to be more decent than that.

This is him excusing terrorist again. Hamas attacked Israel dummy. When Japan attacked the United States what happened? When I call you reeertard you will vex and shout I ignore him 😃 but you support child grooming, you support terrorists.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:58pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Fact is, Hamas should be held responsible for killing and kidnapping Israelis, and Israel is responsible for wiping out Palestinians in retaliation.

It's like wiping out a whole family for the actions of one because they all live in the same house.

Let Hamas come out away from Palestinian civilians so that Israel will know where to face
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:59pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Thankfully, not many decide to therefore kill the citizens of the nations you mentioned because of what their leaders do. We humans, on the whole, seem to be more decent than that.

How many people did Allied forces kill in Dresden when they could have killed Hitler alone?

How many Afghans and Iraqis did NATO/UN forces kill when they could have killed Osama alone
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:00pm On Dec 12, 2023
bemeruca:


Budaatum does not distinguish between hamas and Palestinians. And he supported what hamas did. See your exchange with him in the past.


The fact is that many of them are terrorist sympathizers and can barely hide it

Ask them how should Israel handle Hamas when they hide in daycare and churches they wont tell you

As long as Hamas doesnt come out of civilian population the blood of Gazans is on their hand
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:03pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Let Hamas come out away from Palestinian civilians so that Israel will know where to face
Irish Republican Army terrorised Britain for decades, but Britain did not go killing Irish citizens. And we would hopefully condemn the Nigerian government for killing a whole tribe because some of them are terrorists.

Hamas is a terrorist group that is very unlikely to present themselves to be treated as they deserve to be treated, but that is no reason for Israel to kill off Palestinians in search of them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:04pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:

Irish Republican Army terrorised Britain for decades, but Britain did not go killing Irish citizens. And we would hopefully condemn the Nigerian government for killing a whole tribe because some of them are terrorists.

Hamas is a terrorist group that is very unlikely to present themselves to be treated as they deserve to be treated, but that is no reason for Israel to kill off Palestinians in search of them.


So what should Israel do about Hamas that is killing their citizens and hiding under civilians
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:08pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


How many people did Allied forces kill in Dresden when they could have killed Hitler alone?

How many Afghans and Iraqis did NATO/UN forces kill when they could have killed Osama alone

Both those examples are not similar to what is happening in Israel and Palestine. The first was a war, while there are still some wanting to charge USA with war crimes for killing Afghans and Iraqis.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:09pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Both those examples are not similar to what is happening in Israel and Palestine. The first was a war, while there are still some wanting to charge USA with war crimes for killing Afghans and Iraqis.

So what is going on between Israel and Hamas is a friendly match and not a war?
So Hamas can enter a country kill 1500 people abduct 250 people and its not war? what is it? New Yam festival?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:10pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


So what should Israel do about Hamas that is killing their citizens and hiding under civilians

Hunt Hamas down one by one if necessary, and charge them for crimes if caught or shoot them dead if needs must. Just don't go committing genocide in the hunt for terrorists.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:11pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Hunt Hamas down one by one if necessary, and charge them for crimes if caught or shoot them dead if needs must. Just don't go committing genocide in the hunt for terrorists.

How do you hunt them down one by one when they are inside daycares. How do you charge them when they are hiding in religious centers?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:13pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


So what is going on between Israel and Hamas is a friendly match and not a war?
So Hamas can enter a country kill 1500 people abduct 250 people and its not war? what is it? New Yam festival?

Fight Hamas if you want to war. The innocent citizens who's homes and families Israel are currently killing are not an army.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:14pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


How do you hunt them down one by one when they are inside daycares. How do you charge them when they are hiding in religious centers?


So, due to your incompetence to hunt them down, you instead embark on genocide?

Sorry, but my own moral compass does not point in that direction.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:15pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


Fight Hamas if you want to war. The innocent citizens who's homes and families Israel are currently killing are not an army.

How do you fight Hamas when Hamas is inside civilian bedroom and daycares
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:


So, due to your incompetence to hunt them down, you instead embark on genocide?

Sorry, but my own moral compass does not point in that direction.

Hamas did their own competence by coming into Israel and killing 1400 yet running into daycares to hide

Genocide in Gaza is on Hamas
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:25pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Hamas did their own competence by coming into Israel and killing 1400 yet running into daycares to hide

Genocide in Gaza is on Hamas
You likely would not condone the genocide of those in a daycare in USA that a terrorist runs in to, and nor would you kill the occupants of the daycare and claim it's on the terrorist who ran in there.

Terrorists are criminals, and criminals are not competent by their nature, and that's why what they do is considered a crime that they should be punished for. That punishment does however not include the genocidal elimination of Palestinians in the daycares.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:29pm On Dec 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


How do you fight Hamas when Hamas is inside civilian bedroom and daycares

Definitely not the way Israel is currently killing Palestinians.

You after all can't kill all the Palestinians, and some Palestinians whose relatives you kill just might join Hamas to retaliate you killing members of their families inside their civilian bedrooms and daycares.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:36pm On Dec 12, 2023
budaatum:
You likely would not condone the genocide of those in a daycare in USA that a terrorist runs in to, and nor would you kill the occupants of the daycare and claim it's on the terrorist who ran in there.

Terrorists are criminals, and criminals are not competent by their nature, and that's why what they do is considered a crime that they should be punished for. That punishment does however not include the genocidal elimination of Palestinians in the daycares.


If the terrorist and criminals are competent enough to kill 1400 Israeli civilians yet the Palestinians cannot hand the culprit over to Israel

If Gazans do not hand over the criminals for prosecution then Israel have a right to root them out to kee themselves safe

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