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Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by linearity: 10:56am On Dec 18, 2023
BondRiv:


Those opposed to the reasons stated by the lawmakers for their defection should approach the court for judicial interpretation. In the absence of that, they are still members of the assembly unless the court says otherwise. INEC is not going to conduct any fresh election because there is no judicial pronouncement to the effect that the seats are vacant. They remain lawmakers.

As per section 109(2) of the Constitution, it is the Speaker of the House of Assembly who declares the seats vacant and those who feel injured by that ruling are the ones to go to court.

The onus is on the deflecting lawmakers to present before the Speaker that their deflection is due to a division or merger therefore exempted from the constitutional requirement of declaring their seats vacant.

If the Speaker is satisfied with their submission, he/she wouldn’t declare their seats vacant but if otherwise, their seats would be declared vacant and if they think otherwise, they can go to Court.

A high Court in PH have already declared Edison Ehin, Fubara’a Ally as the authentic Speaker of the Rivers State House of Assembly, Edison is the only Speaker recognized under law at this time unless a higher Court rules otherwise.

Speaker Edison has already declared those 25 seats vacant and asked INEC to conduct Elections within 90 days. INEC is bound to follow suit unless another higher Court Order rules otherwise in the coming days.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by ExudeLoveToAll: 11:11am On Dec 18, 2023
Judolisco:
una still dey believe say people like tinubu need money... Wetin him wan use money do again? It's power they feed on.. When u start feeling 2 big to control that's when they start having issues.... Everytime una go dey talk money.... Be governor of lagos for jst a year... Bro uno go poor again trust me

He doesn't need money cheesy where did he get the money that made you think Tinubu doesn't need money? You are funny

Market controlled by his daughter, signage controlled by his son and internal revenue collection controlled by Tinubu and you said he doesn't need money? The greedy man will remain a greedy man even after stealing Lagos state dry.

Tinubu(alpha bera) collected over 1.2 trillion naira as internal revenue for 2023 and his share of the money is 120 billion naira (10percent) and you open your mouth to say Tinu.bu doesn't need Money grin. This does not even include contracts for road construction and other juicy agreement he entered into with his toys in Alausa.

Sycophants online hailing their oppressors why they themselves go through economic turmoil, very pathetic.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by BondRiv: 11:13am On Dec 18, 2023
linearity:


As per section 109(2) of the Constitution, it is the Speaker of the House of Assembly who declares the seats vacant and those who feel injured by that ruling are the ones to go to court.

The onus is on the deflecting lawmakers to present before the Speaker that their deflection is due to a division or merger therefore exempted from the constitutional requirement of declaring their seats vacant.

If the Speaker is satisfied with their submission, he/she wouldn’t declare their seats vacant but if otherwise, their seats would be declared vacant and if they think otherwise, they can go to Court.

A high Court in PH have already declared Edison Ehin, Fubara’a Ally as the authentic Speaker of the Rivers State House of Assembly, Edison is the only Speaker recognized under law at this time unless a higher Court rules otherwise.

Speaker Edison has already declared those 25 seats vacant and asked INEC to conduct Elections within 90 days. INEC is bound to follow suit unless another higher Court Order rules otherwise in the coming days.

The onus is not on the lawmakers. PDP should go to court. You cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stand. Edison is a suspended member of the house. The court never made him the speaker. Please go and acquire an understanding of the law. You don't wake up overnight and claim to be a speaker. He was seeking for interim injunctions. Does someone become the speaker through interim injunctions? Can a declaration of speakership be made without hearing from the other party? What does Section 36 of the constitution say? Edison is an impostor. End of story.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by ReubenE(m): 11:18am On Dec 18, 2023
BondRiv:


Those opposed to the reasons stated by the lawmakers for their defection should approach the court for judicial interpretation. In the absence of that, they are still members of the assembly unless the court says otherwise. INEC is not going to conduct any fresh election because there is no judicial pronouncement to the effect that the seats are vacant. They remain lawmakers.
They are the ones to go to court to seek redress and not the other party. Their seats are already vacant, the power to declare their seats vacant lies with the speaker(legislature) and not the court. It is when the power is exercised by the speaker, the courts can now declare it ultra vires or affirm it if redress is sort.

There is a case law from the Supreme Court already supporting the power of the leader of the assembly to declare their seats vacant when they abandon the platform upon which they were elected for no judicious reason.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by BondRiv: 11:25am On Dec 18, 2023
ReubenE:

They are the ones to go to court to seek redress and not the other party. Their seats are already vacant, the power to declare their seats vacant lies with the speaker(legislature) and not the court. It is when the power is exercised by the speaker, the courts can now declare it ultra vires or affirm it if redress is sort.

There is a case law from the Supreme Court already supporting the power of the leader of the assembly to declare their seats vacant when they abandon the platform upon which they were elected for no judicious reason.

Amaewhule is the Speaker of the Rivers State House of Assembly. It is obvious you don't have a good grasp of the facts and misapplying the law.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by linearity: 11:31am On Dec 18, 2023
BondRiv:


The onus is not on the lawmakers. PDP should go to court. You cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stand. Edison is a suspended member of the house. The court never made him the speaker. Please go and acquire an understanding of the law. You don't wake up overnight and claim to be a speaker. He was seeking for interim injunctions. Does someone become the speaker through interim injunctions? Can a declaration of speakership be made without hearing from the other party? What does Section 36 of the constitution say? Edison is an impostor. End of story.

At the beginning of the crisis, after the failed impeachment attempt on the Governor, 26 then pro-Fubara Legislators implemented Martins and elected Edison in his place as the new Speaker of the House.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/10/breaking-26-pro-fubara-rivers-assembly-members-suspend-speaker-elect-edison/amp/

Things went downhill for the 27 after that time, the court was just reaffirming the election of Edison as the Speaker and asking Martins to stay clear.

So what exactly is PDP going to Court for now, when the current state of things are in their favor?
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by BondRiv: 11:38am On Dec 18, 2023
linearity:


At the beginning of the crisis, after the failed impeachment attempt on the Governor, 26 then pro-Fubara Legislators implemented Martins and elected Edison in his place as the new Speaker of the House.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/10/breaking-26-pro-fubara-rivers-assembly-members-suspend-speaker-elect-edison/amp/

Things went downhill for the 27 after that time, the court was just reaffirming the election of Edison as the Speaker and asking Martins to stay clear.

So what exactly is PDP going to Court for now, when the current state of things are in their favor?

What gibberish is this? That 26 lawmakers with the speaker Amaewhule elected Edison as the new speaker of the house? How? When? where? In what universe? Absurd!

That is how people like you spread misinformation to gullible people. Don't post this nonsense again.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by linearity: 11:46am On Dec 18, 2023
BondRiv:


What gibberish is this? That 26 lawmakers with the speaker Amaewhule elected Edison as the new speaker of the house? How? When? where? In what universe? Absurd!

That is how people like you spread misinformation to gullible people. Don't post this nonsense again.

I gave you a Vanguard News Paper link that Carried it, not my words argue with your screen.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by BondRiv: 11:53am On Dec 18, 2023
linearity:


I gave you a Vanguard News Paper link that Carried it, not my words argue with your screen.

I don't need any so called Vanguard report. I will even fact check it because I am well aware of the facts as I reside in the state and have consistently followed the issue.

What I highlighted in your post is riddled with falsehood. Just because it is from Vanguard does not change that fact.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by ReubenE(m): 11:55am On Dec 18, 2023
BondRiv:


Amaewhule is the Speaker of the Rivers State House of Assembly. It is obvious you don't have a good grasp of the facts and misapplying the law.
I would have loved to furnish you with more details but you already claimed in one of your earlier posts that Falana is also misinformed that he went to town with wrong information to discuss the Rivers political issue on live TV. On that ground, I yield cause there's nothing I will say to you that will be acceptable.

But peradventure you are alluding to the kangaroo suspension of Edison Ehie, you are on your own.
He filed a suit and a competent court of law has confirmed him as the authentic Speaker and equally has restrained Amaewhule from parading himself as Speaker. Now, his seat is even vacant by virtue of his ill advised defection to another platform for no judicious reason. I need not remind you that there is a case law that Amaewhule and his cronies violated. If he is aggrieved, he should go to court and even register you as one of his attorneys since you appear to know the law more than Falana
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by BondRiv: 12:05pm On Dec 18, 2023
ReubenE:

I would have loved to furnish you with more details but you already claimed in one of your earlier posts that Falana is also misinformed that he went to town with wrong information to discuss the Rivers political issue on live TV. On that ground, I yield cause there's nothing I will say to you that will be acceptable.

But peradventure you are alluding to the kangaroo suspension of Edison Ehie, you are on your own.
He filed a suit and a competent court of law has confirmed him as the authentic Speaker and equally has restrained Amaewhule from parading himself as Speaker. Now, his seat is even vacant by virtue of his ill advised defection to another platform for no judicious reason. I need not remind you that there is a case law that Amaewhule and his cronies violated. If he is aggrieved, he should go to court and even register you as one of his attorneys since you appear to know the law more than Falana

You love to pick and choose, don't you?

When it doesn't favour you, then it is a Kangaroo suspension. Well, if you know anything about law, then you should know that the suspension stands, until vacated by the court.

Tell the impostor parading himself as a speaker with the four members supporting him, to go and vacate his suspension first.

You can't be faster than your shadow. Edison cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stand.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by BlueBlackPackag(m): 12:27pm On Dec 18, 2023
1: Never make a Civil Servant a Political office holder

Tinubu made Ambode a Civil Servant a Governor and he regretted it

Wike made Fabura a civil servant a Governor and he will regret it

2: Keep your Political Protege and successor within your family because when you get outsiders power they use it against you

Bush family of Texas
Kennedy Family of America
Saraki Family of Ilorin

The way certain people think in this country Nigeria is really sad and pitiable.

This one wrote this with all conviction that he is making sense
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by ReubenE(m): 1:11pm On Dec 18, 2023
BondRiv:


You love to pick and choose, don't you?

When it doesn't favour you, then it is a Kangaroo suspension. Well, if you know anything about law, then you should know that the suspension stands, until vacated by the court.

Tell the impostor parading himself as a speaker with the four members supporting him, to go and vacate his suspension first.

You can't be faster than your shadow. Edison cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stand.
Favour me you said? I don't have any business with any of them and careless whatever they decide to do with themselves but the fact is, Ikwerre people will not be allowed to play a fast one on other groups in Rivers State especially the Ijaw.

I said a kangaroo suspension because a competent court of law has confirmed him as the authentic Speaker except you are claiming the Federal High Court built its judgement on nothing. The court cannot confirm a suspended member of the house as the authentic speaker. Like I said before, if you and others are aggrieved, approach the courts for a redress as the judgment confirming Edison Ehie as the authentic Speaker is still subsisting.

Side note: Amaewhule is no longer a lawmaker even as his seat is now vacant so this dialogue is misplaced.
Amaewhule and his cronies should go to court to prove they are still lawmakers.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by BondRiv: 1:45pm On Dec 18, 2023
ReubenE:

Favour me you said? I don't have any business with any of them and careless whatever they decide to do with themselves but the fact is, Ikwerre people will not be allowed to play a fast one on other groups in Rivers State especially the Ijaw.

I said a kangaroo suspension because a competent court of law has confirmed him as the authentic Speaker except you are claiming the Federal High Court built its judgement on nothing. The court cannot confirm a suspended member of the house as the authentic speaker. Like I said before, if you and others are aggrieved, approach the courts for a redress as the judgment confirming Edison Ehie as the authentic Speaker is still subsisting.

Side note: Amaewhule is no longer a lawmaker even as his seat is now vacant so this dialogue is misplaced.
Amaewhule and his cronies should go to court to prove they are still lawmakers.

First of all, leave Ikwerre people out of this. Only weak people resort to tribal sentiments. Fubara and Wike should sort their issues.

Define your purpose here. You have a lot working against you and I believe your confusion stems from your lack of purpose.

Yes, I said you pick and choose when it doesn't favour you. The context in which I used the word "favour" is clear. In case you haven't noticed, you are making the case and arguing in favour of the Sim/Edison camp. So contrary to your comment, you do care and have a business with them. At least, enough to be making a defence on their behalf.

Anyway, come back when you have your facts right. That seems to be your major problem, asides your lack of understanding of the law.
Re: Rivers Crisis: We Met Constitutional Requirements Before Defecting - Lawmakers by ReubenE(m): 4:39pm On Dec 18, 2023
BondRiv:


First of all, leave Ikwerre people out of this. Only weak people resort to tribal sentiments. Fubara and Wike should sort their issues.

Define your purpose here. You have a lot working against you and I believe your confusion stems from your lack of purpose.

Yes, I said you pick and choose when it doesn't favour you. The context in which I used the word "favour" is clear. In case you haven't noticed, you are making the case and arguing in favour of the Sim/Edison camp. So contrary to your comment, you do care and have a business with them. At least, enough to be making a defence on their behalf.

Anyway, come back when you have your facts right. That seems to be your major problem, asides your lack of understanding of the law.
You can decide to shy away from the facts staring at you.
It is already a tribal issue, Wike understands this that's why he is pushing for people not to see it that way. The first governor from another group after 24 years of Ikwerre dominance is being knocked and Ikwerre is positioned to benefit again from his removal, you think it is my making that it is a tribal affair.

Now that you asked; my purpose is for Wike and his cronies to leave the Elected Governor alone to do his job. From antecedents, Wike cannot tolerate half of what he is doing to the governor no matter the kind of gentlemen agreement they have behind the scene.

Your last paragraph: you seem to be the one that is building your case on nothing and yet boisterous about it or maybe you are overestimating your understanding of what you think is going on in Rivers State.
The only thing you said from your previous submissions is that Edison Ehie is suspended. I referenced a subsisting judgment from a competent court of law confirming him as the authentic speaker. Then again, there is a case law/judicial precedent that empowers the authentic Speaker Edison Ehie to declare the seat of any member vacant if they abandon the platform upon which they are elected for no judicious reason which he has rightly done, so which understanding of the law are you talking about.

You already faulted Falana of not knowing the law, you've faulted the Judge of the federal high court of not knowing the law by your insistence that Edison Ehie is not the Speaker. You equally said I lack understanding of the law like you said to other commentators on this thread.

I am constrained to ask; who really are you? A Justice of the Supreme Court that is right and every other person is wrong.
Except I missed your other posts which I don't think I did, the only thing you've said so far is Edison Ehie is suspended. Is that why everybody is wrong and you are right?

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