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Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 10:10am On Dec 26, 2023
Originalsly:


Why should I know about the website? ... and why should I be there? ... am I Catholic? You should be saying this to the Rev Father... if he had visited the site he would not have said what he did. Did you even read what you referenced? If you did .... doesn't it say same sex couples can receive blessings? ... and the Rev said it is a lie?

Shey you dey whine me or what
"He was not informed. He should now know he is not part of the inner circle and should be following on their website or wherever instead of wai5ing for the Pope to tell him personally."
Is this your words above, talking about website which I have shown you.
The article in the website explains everything in great detail, any question you may have is well explained in the article,take time to educate yourself,okay
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Originalsly: 10:30am On Dec 26, 2023
Ajmoziz:


Shey you dey whine me or what
"He was not informed. He should now know he is not part of the inner circle and should be following on their website or wherever instead of wai5ing for the Pope to tell him personally."
Is this your words above, talking about website which I have shown you.
The article in the website explains everything in great detail, any question you may have is well explained in the article,take time to educate yourself,okay


Bro... the reference to website or whatever is about the Rev should go to the an official source of news about Catholic affairs.... whether that source be a website... a hand out ... a TV programme ... a radio programme giving updates ... whatever. But why dodge the crux of the matter?.... did the Pope ok blessings for gays?... not married ones? If y3s... then the Rev is wrong.
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 10:59am On Dec 26, 2023
Originalsly:


Bro... the reference to website or whatever is about the Rev should go to the an official source of news about Catholic affairs.... whether that source be a website... a hand out ... a TV programme ... a radio programme giving updates ... whatever. But why dodge the crux of the matter?.... did the Pope ok blessings for gays?... not married ones? If y3s... then the Rev is wrong.

Ohhh okay, okay , now I get what you mean,when you talked about

Now to the crux of the matter, I am not dodging anything, I am asking you to read, ehhh,just read, I know it's a long article,but read.
There are questions you will ask that I know you didn't read the article, read the article, simple!!!, It's as simple as that
The article explains everything, it explains what it means when a person comes to a priest asking for blessings and it explains what the actions of a priest being a shepherd of the church , a church who welcomes should do.
So like I said,just read
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:01am On Dec 26, 2023
FreeIgboho:
Strange that only an archbishop in extremely anti-gay African country is saying the pope was misquoted
There is multiple evidence of Bishops the world over correcting the misconceptions in the media and you would see if only you look
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:02am On Dec 26, 2023
ariesbull:
Shameless clowns in cassock ....Pope said that the gays can be blessed these clowns that call themselves bishops are defending this madness


Shame on them.... And those that defend this madness
Read from the Vatican website and tell me who needs to be shamed
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:09am On Dec 26, 2023
Stevosty:
The pope himself should debunk such narrative if it is false, you can't be clever than the pope, this archbishop must be an APC disciple.

Let's imagine for a moment,your wrote a very detailed,very comprehensive presentation on something where you explained everything in great detail and even post it online where it is easily accessible to everybody
And a day later, people start misrepresenting what you said, what would be your reaction , to debunk what they have said or do simply point back to your comprehensive presentation.
Yep the Pope did the latter and I will help him too
This is the presentation

Read and educate yourself

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:10am On Dec 26, 2023
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:10am On Dec 26, 2023
grandstar:
The catholic church is speaking from both sides of tge mouth. Dem no serious

Please identify clearly the two sides of the mouth in this matter


https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Fighttillvictory: 11:11am On Dec 26, 2023
We rather remove the damn pope than to allow the pope divide the church. No one is bigger than the church. This is not islam and he is not mohammed
letristian:
So what kind of blessings did he actually intend for them
Who do you want to impress?

Let's watch how it will unfold in few months coming, if the Pope maintains his ground, then there may be an unavoidable division in the Roman Catholic Church world wide as a greater population of the Church won't accept this.
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:11am On Dec 26, 2023
drnoel:


You need to ignore the bishop and look directly yourself what exactly the Pope said.
This Bishop that says the Pope didn't say what was reported he said but didn't quote the Pope himself is also peddling false information
Okay here I have handed you what the Pope said,easily accessible if you look.
Now who is peddling wrong information
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:13am On Dec 26, 2023
Fighttillvictory:
We rather remove the damn pope than to allow the pope divide the church. No one is bigger than the church. This is not islam and he is not mohammed

You are allowing the devil with his.agents to deceive you.
Have a little read of the Pope's message without the misrepresentations

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:15am On Dec 26, 2023
blowjohn:




So ur saying couples don't receive blessings?

What is ur definition of couple?
No be two people?
Gay blessings cannot be on gay couples?
Why are they asking for blessings in the first place? No be so that God can bless their relationship/ union?


Call a spade a spade
Yes, I see you want to engage in some conversation about this

Have a read here and then come back, everything you need to understand is explained

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:15am On Dec 26, 2023
Stevosty:
where is the refusal here? You should say the pope now obliged, what is the meaning of "informal blessing"? Are you a twister? You guys should wake up and tell the pope No. He is not bigger than the bible.
Everything you need to understand is here
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:17am On Dec 26, 2023
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:21am On Dec 26, 2023
Mosba:
Was also misvideo too right?

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See how easy it is for devil to use innocent children of God for his purposes.
What video are you talking about exactly??did you watch a video of the pope
There is no video, there was no video released but see you propagating something you did not see yourself
There was the document released from the Vatican that is being misquoted

Here is the document
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#

Do be more vigilant and increase your prayer, that you don't become an instrument of the devil.I believe in you
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by bitbillionaire: 11:21am On Dec 26, 2023
Ubenedictus:

5. This is also the understanding of marriage that is offered by the Gospel. For this reason, when it comes to blessings, the Church has the right and the duty to avoid any rite that might contradict this conviction or lead to confusion. Such is also the meaning of the Responsum of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which states that the Church does not have the power to impart blessings on unions of persons of the same sex


should I continue?

You can continue but I will still need to know what the pope actually said.
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:22am On Dec 26, 2023
Gboom:
What is the church marriage, is it not pastoral blessing?
Why is this bishop twisting what pope said outrightly?

The real marriage is traditional marriage which involve parental consent and blessing and payment of dowry.

This is what the pope said right here,read

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:22am On Dec 26, 2023
Innomach:
Nigeria! Both the political and religious leaders have one thing in common; Deception.

Pope's statement:
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:23am On Dec 26, 2023
bitbillionaire:


You can continue but I will still need to know what the pope actually said.

Ohhh I am here for you

Here it is

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:25am On Dec 26, 2023
Gboom:
What is the church marriage, is it not pastoral blessing?
Why is this bishop twisting what pope said outrightly?

The real marriage is traditional marriage which involve parental consent and blessing and payment of dowry.

Pope's statement well explained

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:26am On Dec 26, 2023
NewDea4:


So what exactly did the Pope say?

You people claim to be Christlians but nothing of Christ exists in your character whether inward or outward
The exact words
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:27am On Dec 26, 2023
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:27am On Dec 26, 2023
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:28am On Dec 26, 2023
drnoel:


No mond them. But the pope's statement was completely political to the core so don't interpret it 1:1

Political??, This is political??
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:29am On Dec 26, 2023
BondRiv:
Confusing and misleading yourself. All these masquerading to permit what is forbidden.

I feel sorry for people who need the Pope for directions about their life.

The Bible is clear that homosexuality is a sin.

And did the Pope say anything different from what the Bible says, well, read to find out
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:30am On Dec 26, 2023
drnoel:


Please ignore the tabloid clips and look out for the new exact statement

Here it is for him


https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:30am On Dec 26, 2023
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:33am On Dec 26, 2023
Faposky95:
All truth must come to bare.
No one is a saint......as all have their hand in blood and dirt.
But these are the times, and the real.battle is sufficing though ........
It's the war between Good and Evil
And when e set......
No be born again tings ooohhhh

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:34am On Dec 26, 2023
blowjohn:



The phrase' informally blessed'...... What's the meaning?

Let me tell u something. Being gay is devlish. It's a product of many factors.

It's different from people who were born with congenital birth defects that results in ambiguous Instruments.

Nobody is born gay. Science has not been able to show this, and will never be able to.
Environment, friends, media, family etc causes it.


It shudndt be welcomed even informally. It's a satanic agenda.



Pope's statement
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 11:34am On Dec 26, 2023
bigcasava1:
If pope did not approve it what did pope said? bcoz pope we all knew that Pope recently gave a verdict on that matter. Bishop we know you love catholic church that's why you are defending it but when the church is deviating from it core mandate it is expected leaders like you should criticize it. Anyway we heard what pope said you can't change it

Pope's statement
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by bitbillionaire: 11:37am On Dec 26, 2023
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Fighttillvictory: 12:01pm On Dec 26, 2023
Ajmoziz:


You are allowing the devil with his.agents to deceive you.
Have a little read of the Pope's message without the misrepresentations

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html#
good content but just as blessing comes in many form, our pope did'nt classify. When the bible told us about JESUS and the number of people he feed with 5 loaf and 2 fish, it said that He blessed the food not that he did any liturgical rite and it multiplied. So here our pope is telling the church to bless them so they can multiply.
and about my previous post i was telling the guy that the church will not divide because of a damn pope so i dont see how the devil will use me

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