Jodera:
I dunno if Tierney is injured but this is the right time to even recall him.
But your point is valid, Now is even the time we need Tomi most. I just hope Timber comes back early this month. Maybe he can be our Tomi till Tomi comes back

Timber won't be back until atleast March... Person wey never start light training yet (Field running). With Zinny Calf issues which might require surgery, Tierney should be recalled

iamoyindamola:

Where’s timber and tomi now
For all I know all our fullbacks are injury prone

And Tierney is not injury proned? What is the use of calling him back only to warm the hospital bed?

MSGAMBLE9:
Timber won't be back until atleast March... Person wey never start light training yet (Field running). With Zinny Calf issues which might require surgery, Tierney should be recalled

Timber will be back by January ending. And how sure are you that Tierney will stay fit?

mostob:
And Tierney is not injury proned? What is the use of calling him back only to warm the hospital bed?

I will rather have tierney spamming crosses than kiwi looking at a fool in the match

daveP:


Spy, I did not fail in anything. The boldened is a contradiction and you can't draw a pure conclusion from a contradiction. That's nullified. You can say A is not different and then say B is the better one. Or does "better" now mean they are "not different"?(paraphrasing)

There is no substantial evidence that proves Giroud is in the class of RVP. Because say Saka good no mean say he dey Salah Class. He still dey boot.


Once again, Giroud is not in RVP class as far as Emirates time is concerned. C'est fini!!

What's a class mark?

RVP 0.47
Giroud 0.42

Based on their overall performance for Arsenal as seen above, it would hypocritical and gain saying that they are not in the same class. Figures don't lie.

If you agree with Jodera that Giroud was useless then you should also agree that RVP was useless.

If you want to talk about quality it's Ok. But when you want to talk about total output and performance, facts are there and they don't lie unless you want to deceive yourself.

Spy360:

What's a class mark?

RVP 0.47
Giroud 0.42

Based on their overall performance for Arsenal as seen above, it would hypocritical and gain saying that they are not in the same class. Figures don't lie.

If you agree with Jodera that Giroud was useless then you should also agree that RVP was useless.

If you want to talk about quality it's Ok. But when you want to talk about total output and performance, facts are there and they don't lie unless you want to deceive yourself.

Bin this solitary decimal justification you've been using pls. It doesn't justify this stance you've been harping on sincerely. Should i bring out some other decimals of players in bigger clubs so you'll finally exclaim "haba naaaawwwww"??


The fact that decimal indicates closeness doesn't mean they are same class in performance for Arsenal. Their goals are wide apart. Heck, you're really doing this to a golden boot winner in epl twice?? Really??


Nowhere did i affirm Giroud is "very very average" or useless. I'm simply Taking you on for your assertions about these two forwards. Your metric becomes more vague when you apply more samples across europe. So bin it. It is insulting to RVP.

iamoyindamola:

I will rather have tierney spamming crosses than kiwi looking at a fool in the match

Please don't mention Kiwi. How on earth we went for that guy? I think the transfer process should be investigated. I think the major problem of our current team is that nearly all of our creative and forward players are light weight. I don't see them winning any major trophy except we have a blend of rogedity in the mix.

mostob:
Timber will be back by January ending. And how sure are you that Tierney will stay fit?

I will not accept coming back to work with Teta if I'm Tierney.

mostob:
Timber will be back by January ending. And how sure are you that Tierney will stay fit?

Back by January ending? Someone that has not started outside running not to talk of putting pressure on his knee... Please share your Source with me.


Maybe you need to watch Mead and Viv documentary on ACL recovery program...

iamoyindamola:

I will rather have tierney spamming crosses than kiwi looking at a fool in the match

We even need those crosses. No be every time we go dey escort the ball into opponent's net. His fitness is the main issue

Spy360:

What's a class mark?

RVP 0.47
Giroud 0.42

Based on their overall performance for Arsenal as seen above, it would hypocritical and gain saying that they are not in the same class. Figures don't lie.

If you agree with Jodera that Giroud was useless then you should also agree that RVP was useless.

If you want to talk about quality it's Ok. But when you want to talk about total output and performance, facts are there and they don't lie unless you want to deceive yourself.

I'm not quite sure you understand what you just typed here. The way you just conjure one faulty fact to support your agenda deserves an Oscar. Oya, which class mark dud you used to classify both values?

MSGAMBLE9:
Back by January ending? Someone that has not started outside running not to talk of putting pressure on his knee... Please share your Source with me.


Maybe you need to watch Mead and Viv documentary on ACL recovery program...

Ok

mostob:
I'm not quite sure you understand what you just typed here. The way you just conjure one faulty fact to support your agenda deserves an Oscar. Oya, which class mark dud you used to classify both values?

Your comment shows you don't even understand what a class mark means. Go and study elementary statistics and modify your post.

daveP:



Bin this solitary decimal justification you've been using pls. It doesn't justify this stance you've been harping on sincerely. Should i bring out some other decimals of players in bigger clubs so you'll finally exclaim "haba naaaawwwww"??


The fact that decimal indicates closeness doesn't mean they are same class in performance for Arsenal. Their goals are wide apart. Heck, you're really doing this to a golden boot winner in epl twice?? Really??


Nowhere did i affirm Giroud is "very very average" or useless. I'm simply Taking you on for your assertions about these two forwards. Your metric becomes more vague when you apply more samples across europe. So bin it. It is insulting to RVP.

If the bolded is true then you shouldn't have delved into this argument in the first place because that is what I am trying to prove. That is the root of this entire brouhaha. Take the bolded to Jodera.

mostob:
That's not a bonus. Before goals, there is the first, second and third phase build ups. There is need to keep possession too. Timber excels at these at least judging from 3 or 4 matches he has played.

Let me add that before the attack can function, the defense must be strong which is far from the current situation.

The need to keep and organize possession and influence games is centred on the midfield. Timber's job is to make the defence steel. That's all.

It is our lack of influence in midfield that has constantly made Zinchenko drift central.
And when Zinchenko is central, he gives an idea of how a midfield should be - retention, possession, intricate passes, dominace, etc.

What Zinchenko does in midfield is a bonus. That's not his job.

Spy360:

Your comment shows you don't even understand what a class mark means. Go and study elementary statistics and modify your post.

Lol... e be like the one wey Dem teach me for Uni no reach, you go teach me more o. What I'm asking you is what class mark did you use?

Hausa:
The need to keep and organize possession and influence games is centred on the midfield. Timber's job is to make the defence steel. That's all.

It is our lack of influence in midfield that has constantly made Zinchenko drift central.
And when Zinchenko is central, he gives an idea of how a midfield should be - retention, possession, intricate passes, dominace, etc.

What Zinchenko does in midfield is a bonus. That's not his job.

Omo....where I wan start to dey shalaye like this?

Ok, the like of Stone and Akanji do invert to midfield from their defensive position. Will you say that City midfield lack influence?

Football has evolved bro.. defenders are now inverting on order to create overload in midfield when building up from the back. That is why modern managers don't just go for anyhow defenders.

Timber will add more steel to the defence no doubt but his contribution will be immense in attack as well.

If olise to man u is true abeg make we snatch ebere eze. E get why. We've been so unlucky with palace deals. Why tho?

mostob:
Lol... e be like the one wey Dem teach me for Uni no reach, you go teach me more o. What I'm asking you is what class mark did you use?

Davep said they were not in the same class. So I asked what was his class mark (or class interval). Given that RVP had 0.47, and Giroud 0.42.

Spy360:

Davep said they were not in the same class. So I asked what was his class mark (or class interval). Given that RVP had 0.47, and Giroud 0.42.

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So this is your supposed answer/reply to the question what class mark did you use?


You're really taking this "no gree for anybody" really serious Spy!!

Spy360:

Davep said they were not in the same class. So I asked what was his class mark (or class interval). Given that RVP had 0.47, and Giroud 0.42.

'0.41 - 0.45' is another class mark that shows both players are not in the same category. That's why I asked you which class mark you used and the theory or postulation that validate it.

You just picked your own class mark and Gbam! we must all agreed. na wa o

daveP:
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So this is your supposed answer/reply to the question what class mark did you use?


You're really taking this "no gree for anybody" really serious Spy!!

Person wey go soon tutor me on statistics.

Una get time sha.

Giroud was an average striker who managed to score 16 EPL goals for Arsenal twice and failed to have a shot on target at a world cup his team won. Simple!

No amount of whitewashing or revisionism will change these things.

BlueRayDick:
Una get time sha.

Giroud was an average striker who managed to score 16 EPL goals for Arsenal twice and failed to have a shot on target at a world cup his team won. Simple!

No amount of whitewashing or revisionism will change these things.

We should not forget he went about 7 matches from his debut to get a goal for us
Some of this clowns will say shebi TH14 also went on same run but giroud is the reason wengay didn't win additional epl
If you as a cf play with prime ozil and sanchez with only fa cup to show
Wahala they

iamoyindamola:

We should not forget he went about 7 matches from his debut to get a goal for us
Some of this clowns will say shebi TH14 also went on same run but giroud is the reason wengay didn't win additional epl
If you as a cf play with prime ozil and sanchez with only fa cup to show
Wahala they

As in.... This guy had only one job to do which is to tap-in goals or nod-in corners and somehow he still managed to have poverty numbers to show for goals. He doesn't even get injured as van Persie used to.

Omo! As u rightly said, person wey no fit make am with Prime Ozil & Sanchez. Tueh!

iamoyindamola:

We should not forget he went about 7 matches from his debut to get a goal for us
Some of this clowns will say shebi TH14 also went on same run but giroud is the reason wengay didn't win additional epl
If you as a cf play with prime ozil and sanchez with only fa cup to show
Wahala they

Allow me rephrase


Person play with prime ozil and Sanchez and no win Golden boot. Auba came and won it o. He dey use their goal/match ratio to decide they're on par. Lol

mostob:
Person wey go soon tutor me on statistics.

He made me even doubt watching this guys sotey i go dey do player comparison to reconfirm. Lol. Nothing par between then class par-tition them well

daveP:
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So this is your supposed answer/reply to the question what class mark did you use?


You're really taking this "no gree for anybody" really serious Spy!!

I believed I asked the question first. So if Mostob was going to ask me he had to wait for me to get the information first from you.

You spewing this is not intelligent knowing that I was the one who directed the question first to you.

So when you say they are not in the same class, which class mark or class interval did you use. Simple.

BlueRayDick:


As in.... This guy had only one job to do which is to tap-in goals or nod-in corners and somehow he still managed to have poverty numbers to show for goals. He doesn't even get injured as van Persie used to.

Omo! As u rightly said, person wey no fit make am with Prime Ozil & Sanchez. Tueh!

First of all, this argument is not about Giroud Vs RVP. It was some of us that brought that up out of desperation simply because I brought out stats of main strikers for Arsenal which even included Henry, Adebayor and Lacazette. So why are they not comparing Giroud with Lacazette why RVP? That's because they want to score a cheap point.

The argument is whether Giroud was useless playing for Arsenal and I brought up stats to prove that he wasn't useless as suggested by haters. Someone that has similar stats with RvP and Adebayor cannot be classified as useless irrespective of how we hate him.

If it was Chamarch, we'll Ok. But please not Giroud.

No body is arguing their levels of quality but as far as their stats show (for Arsenal only as Jodera demanded) their figures are not world apart as some of you may want to force us to accept and the stats is only in games they actually participated not when they were injured or didn't feature at all. Giroud himself has more accolades/medals generally than RVP both for club and country. But let's leave that aside. Facts don't lie only people do even with facts slapping them on the face.

Spy360:

First of all, this argument is not about Giroud Vs RVP. It was some of us that brought that up out of desperation simply because I brought out stats of main strikers for Arsenal which even included Henry, Adebayor and Lacazette. So why are they not comparing Giroud with Lacazette why RVP? That's because they want to score a cheap point.

The argument is whether Giroud was useless playing for Arsenal and I brought up stats to prove that he wasn't useless as suggested by haters. Someone that has similar stats with RvP and Adebayor cannot be classified as useless irrespective of how we hate him.

If it was Chamarch, we'll Ok. But please not Giroud.

No body is arguing their levels of quality but as far as their stats show (for Arsenal only as Jodera demanded) their figures are not world apart as some of you may want to force us to accept and the stats is only in games they actually participated not when they were injured or didn't feature at all. Giroud himself has more accolades/medals generally than RVP both for club and country. But let's leave that aside. Facts don't lie only people do even with facts slapping them on the face.

Plenty talk yet no evidence to prove Giroud was not an average striker for Arsenal. Bang average!

Na who get time go dey follow u do amala turning.

BlueRayDick:


Plenty talk yet no evidence to prove Giroud was not an average striker for Arsenal. Bang average!

Na who get time go dey follow u do amala turning.

Giroud had a goals per games ratio of 0.42. In simple terms that means he would be scoring 42goals in 100 games. In comparison, Adebayor will score 43 in 100; while van Persie will score 47. The only person out of that class will be Henry who will score 60 or Lacazette who will score 36. Based on the evidential analysis above, no one should call Giroud useless. Call it amala or whatever delicacy that irritates you, it remains fact.

Spy360:

Giroud had a goals per games ratio of 0.42. In simple terms that means he would be scoring 42goals in 100 games. In comparison, Adebayor will score 43 in 100; while van Persie will score 47. The only person out of that class will be Henry who will score 60 or Lacazette who will score 36. Based on the evidential analysis above, no one should call Giroud useless. Call it amala or whatever delicacy that irritates you, it remains fact.

Lmao.

Na people wey no know ball go dey follow u do this kind yeye argument. Shebi na the same minutes Van Persie that is always injured and Giroud that is mostly fit played for Arsenal?

U think say u dey wise? Go and bring their goals vs minutes played in an Arsenal shirt; I don pass people u go dey use bias stats draw into nonsense argument that will spiral into series and series of Amala turning.

If to say I no dey alive or I no get access to TV when Giroud played for Arsenal it would've been another thing entirely.