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Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 2:04pm On Jan 09
Aemmyjah:


Jesus was offered rulership from Satan and later by his own people, he rejected it

because that was not the reason he came into the world.

Where did God say his people can't be a ruler?

Meanwhile, don't forget that your Governing Body are in rulership position as well.

You will see how different meaning will be given to word rulership now
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:43pm On Jan 09
Emusan:

because that was not the reason he came into the world.
Where did God say his people can't be a ruler?
Meanwhile, don't forget that your Governing Body are in rulership position as well.
You will see how different meaning will be given to word rulership now

Of course the Governing Body are RULERS over those that SUBJECTED themselves to them WILLINGLY that's why their subjects are always happy to have them rule over us. Hebrews 13:17
Now tell me the government that their subjects are willingly subjecting to their rules without gunpoint and fear of being killed!

So just as we willingly call Jesus "Lord" without being threatened with weapons and ready to obey instructions from him we are also doing the same to his anointed brothers obediently without the threat of weapons. Matthew 25:34-46

That's the difference between God's chosen (anointed) rulers and worldy governments that you people will vote them and later start crying for replacement.

We know that there's no better performing group than the Governing Body that's why we are obedient to them.

Can you also say the same about your human rulers?
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Ken4Christ: 5:15pm On Jan 09
Aemmyjah:


Jesus was offered rulership from Satan and later by his own people, he rejected it

My Lord Jesus doesn't have to accept any offer. He owns the world and he will rule over it at the appointed time.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Ken4Christ: 5:16pm On Jan 09
MaxInDHouse:


Guy, all politicians kills and support the killings not only of their enemies but also of their neighbours and fellow worshipers!

So the law of Christ that says LOVE:

Your enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Your neighbours! Mark 12:31

Your fellow believers! John 13:34-35

Can't work with politicians because they must kill or approve the killing of people who stands against their political ambitions! John 8:44

That's what makes you a blind religionist! undecided

What if I choose to be different. That most politicians kill doesn't mean they all kill. We still have God fearing politicians.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 5:31pm On Jan 09
MaxInDHouse:
Of course the Governing Body are RULERS over those that SUBJECTED themselves to them WILLINGLY that's why their subjects are always happy to have them rule over us. Hebrews 13:17

Good! So the point is settled.

God didn't forbid human RULERSHIP.

Now tell me the government that their subjects are willingly subjecting to their rules without gunpoint and fear of being killed!

Nigeria Government because even you submit to NIGERIA CONSTITUTION.

So just as we willingly call Jesus "Lord" without being threatened with weapons and ready to obey instructions from him we are also doing the same to his anointed brothers obediently without the threat of weapons. Matthew 25:34-46

So who threatened you to submit to Nigeria constitution?

That's the difference between God's chosen (anointed) rulers and worldy governments that you people will vote them and later start crying for replacement.

You will keep shalaye

Ruler is ruler, so not that God forbids rulership.

We know that there's no better performing group than the Governing Body that's why we are obedient to them.

You already agreed that your Governing Body are also human RULER. The point is settled, God never forbidden human ruler.

If you think God did, provide the verse.

Can you also say the same about your human rulers?

That's not the point.

Was it?
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:39pm On Jan 09
Ken4Christ:

What if I choose to be different. That most politicians kill doesn't mean they all kill. We still have God fearing politicians.

Ọmọ you don't know anything about politics!

There is none as in NONE that hasn't killed or had a part to play in the killing of people before!

No matter how good you may think you are once you move close to them they will initiate you otherwise you can't win a single house in your own village not to talk of a town. Anyone you see winning is already a member of the occult. For your information there are certain political offices you can't attain if you don't belong.

You think say nah child's play them dey do for politics?
Ọmọ it's the ultimate game of DEATH! undecided
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:50pm On Jan 09
Emusan:

Good! So the point is settled.
God didn't forbid human RULERSHIP.

Go and argue with 1Samuel 8:10-18

God forbids human government as for the Governing Body it's Jesus that chose them that is the more reason we believe in 1914 because before that year there has not been such a body after the destruction of Jerusalem in 33 C.E

That's why people from different geographical locations on this planet are submissive to them unlike your human rulers that you vote in vote out of power only for them to use guns in lording over you. The Governing Body never imposed themselves on anyone infact each of us is going to study with them and subject ourselves to them not your own government that you voted and later stage protests against them. cheesy

I'm not disputing that the Governing Body isn't a form of government but their government will not have an end because it's divine nobody is coming to vote them out and replace them like your own governments. Daniel 2:44

As for JWs subjecting ourselves to what your government says we are giving Caesar what belongs to him your government can't order us to make choices (voting) their kind we will never do such our government is not from this source {John 18:36} that's why we don't protest against them since we know we never voted them! wink
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 5:56pm On Jan 09
MaxInDHouse:
Go and argue with 1Samuel 8:10-18

Post it here.

If you're sure of yourself.

God forbids human government

Then there should not be anything like Governing Body because they are also human government. Agreed!

as for the Governing Body it's Jesus that chose them that is the more reason we believe in 1914 because before that year there has not been such a body after the destruction of Jerusalem in 33 C.E

They are human government.

No long story....Mr storyteller

I know the meaning of HUMAN GOVERNMENT will start having different meaning as it has involved governing body cheesy grin cheesy

That's why people from different geographical locations on this planet are submissive to them unlike your human rulers that you vote in vote out of power only for them to use guns in lording over you. The Governing Body never imposed themselves on anyone infact each of us is going to study with them and subject ourselves to them not your own government that you voted and later stage protests against them. cheesy

I'm not disputing that the Governing Body isn't a form of government but their government will not have an end because it's divine nobody is coming to vote them out and replace them like your own governments. Daniel 2:44

As for JWs subjecting ourselves to what your government says we are giving Caesar what belongs to him your government can't order us to make choices (voting) their kind we will never do such our government is not from this source {John 18:36} that's why we don't protest against them since we know we never voted them! wink

Irrelevant
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Ken4Christ: 6:41pm On Jan 09
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ you don't know anything about politics!

There is none as in NONE that hasn't killed or had a part to play in the killing of people before!

No matter how good you may think you are once you move close to them they will initiate you otherwise you can't win a single house in your own village not to talk of a town. Anyone you see winning is already a member of the occult. For your information there are certain political offices you can't attain if you don't belong.

You think say nah child's play them dey do for politics?
Ọmọ it's the ultimate game of DEATH! undecided

I know what to do when my time comes. It will be by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:02pm On Jan 09
Ken4Christ:

I know what to do when my time comes. It will be by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Under Satan's control shey? 1John 5:19
Continue deceiving yourself! 2Timothy 3:13 cheesy

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Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:36am On Jan 10
Ken4Christ:


My Lord Jesus doesn't have to accept any offer. He owns the world and he will rule over it at the appointed time.

Who was he referring to when he said that the ruler of the world will be cast out?
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:37am On Jan 10
Emusan:


because that was not the reason he came into the world.

Where did God say his people can't be a ruler?

Meanwhile, don't forget that your Governing Body are in rulership position as well.

You will see how different meaning will be given to word rulership now

You want to compare Governing Body with political rulership?
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:36am On Jan 10
Aemmyjah:

Who was he referring to when he said that the ruler of the world will be cast out?
The church boy agreed it's Satan but thought he is wiser than Jesus and his apostles so he knows how to rule under Satan's system and still continue being a disciple of Christ Jesus! cheesy
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:43am On Jan 10
Aemmyjah:

You want to compare Governing Body with political rulership?

The faithless miscreant doesn't know anything yet he wants to argue.

Governing Body rules over true disciples of Christ who are obediently taking instructions from them to know how they can do God's will throughout the earth.
While human government fights over territories to keep their slaves subjects under their control.
That's what worshiping in truth and spirit means {John 4:24} because worshipers of God may be living in any part of the world but they know their own rightful rulers to whom they must be obedient in order to do God's will with their fellow worshipers globally while Satan's agents and their own subjects will pick up weapons to slaughter one another including their so called "fellow believers" at the command of those keeping them in some territory to dominate them! cheesy
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 8:37am On Jan 10
Aemmyjah:
You want to compare Governing Body with political rulership?

because Governing Body is Angel RULERSHIP.

Are you not talking about HUMAN rulership again?
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 8:41am On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:
The faithless miscreant doesn't know anything yet he wants to argue.

The hallgoer miscreant just confirmed my point below.

Governing Body rules over...

So God was not against HUMAN RULERSHIP.

QED!
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Ken4Christ: 10:12am On Jan 10
Aemmyjah:


Who was he referring to when he said that the ruler of the world will be cast out?

Satan off course. But he has been defeated and will be dethroned at the appointed time. Jesus has been appointed heirs of all things. And at the appointed time, the kingdom of this world will become the kingdom of of Lord.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Ken4Christ: 10:13am On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:


Under Satan's control shey? 1John 5:19
Continue deceiving yourself! 2Timothy 3:13 cheesy

The evil bow before the good and the wicked at the gate of the righteous.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:58pm On Jan 10
Emusan:

The hallgoer miscreant just confirmed my point below. So God was not against HUMAN RULERSHIP. QED!

So who ELECTED the Governing Body? cheesy
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:00pm On Jan 10
Ken4Christ:

Satan off course. But he has been defeated and will be dethroned at the appointed time. Jesus has been appointed heirs of all things. And at the appointed time, the kingdom of this world will become the kingdom of of Lord.

Until he is dethroned no human can succeed in doing God's will under his control in the political scene! wink
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Jan 10
Ken4Christ:

The evil bow before the good and the wicked at the gate of the righteous.
Guy if he will bow there's no reason to destroy him but because he is battle prepared for showdown that's why he must be destroyed.
So stop deceiving yourself no human can succeed in doing God's will politics under his nose! smiley
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 3:04pm On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:
So who ELECTED the Governing Body? cheesy

Are you asking me? cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:11pm On Jan 10
Emusan:

Are you asking me? cheesy grin cheesy

So they're not human government but God's anointed Kings and Priests to rule with Christ Jesus in heaven that's why people from all over the world are OBEDIENTLY SUBMISSIVE to them without territorial barriers or threats of weapons!

Your human rulers will send you to go and get killed for their geographical territory brainwash you that you're fighting for your country whereas their own children are a safe somewhere. Governing Body will do everything within their capacity to stop disciples from picking up weapons against anyone not to talk of sending them out to fight for territories.

Ọmọ God's chosen ones totally differs from your elected human rulers! wink
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 3:17pm On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:
So they're not human government

You can keep changing your lying mouth but the point already established.

They are human ruler.

but God's anointed Kings and Priests to rule with Christ Jesus in heaven that's why people from all over the world are OBEDIENTLY SUBMISSIVE to them without territorial barriers or threats of weapons!

Your human rulers will send you to go and get killed for their geographical territory brainwash you that you're fighting for your country whereas their own children are a safe somewhere. Governing Body will do everything within their capacity to stop disciples from picking up weapons against anyone not to talk of sending them out to fight for territories.

Ọmọ God's chosen ones totally differs from your elected human rulers! wink

Irrelevant as usual cheesy grin grin
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Jan 10
Emusan:

You can keep changing your lying mouth but the point already established.
They are human ruler.
Later you will start arguing that you know the meaning of BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS.
Those that has been anointed with God's Holy Spirit you're calling humans when there is no single evidence that their works are of the flesh! smiley
Emusan:

Irrelevant as usual cheesy grin grin
All those hard facts will be IRRELEVANT to you now since humans governments can't perform excellently the way Governing Body has done! wink
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 3:27pm On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:
Later you will start arguing that you know the meaning of BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS.

Has me and you ever agree on Born Again Christian meaning before?

Those that has been anointed with God's Holy Spirit you're calling humans when there is no single evidence that their works are of the flesh! smiley

Of course they are ANGEL not human grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

All those hard facts will be IRRELEVANT to you now since humans governments can't perform excellently the way Governing Body has done! wink

Lie lie you called hard fact.

Have you seen gun in my hand before or I killed someone?

So, how will you lie that politicians gave me gun to go and kill people?
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Ken4Christ: 4:19pm On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:


Until he is dethroned no human can succeed in doing God's will under his control in the political scene! wink

We heal the sick. And this is God's will.

We cast out devils. And this is also God's will.

Lost souls receive salvation. Salvation is God's will.

Hallelujah.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Ken4Christ: 4:21pm On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:

Guy if he will bow there's no reason to destroy him but because he is battle prepared for showdown that's why he must be destroyed.
So stop deceiving yourself no human can succeed in doing God's will politics under his nose! smiley

Greater is he that's in me than the devil that is in the world.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:26pm On Jan 10
Emusan:

Has me and you ever agree on Born Again Christian meaning before?
Of course they are ANGEL not human
That's what they are!
Angels in human flesh so know that today born again Christians aren't humans no more that's what differentiate them from all other humans because they've been born of spirit {John 3:5-6} Jesus said if they faithfully finish their earthly mission they will no longer resurrect as humans but as what God's Holy Spirit turned them to: angels! Luke 20:34-36 wink
Emusan:

Lie lie you called hard fact.
Have you seen gun in my hand before or I killed someone? So, how will you lie that politicians gave me gun to go and kill people?
Are you not the same person arguing that you want human ruler?
Are you not the same person claiming you must defend your country?
Guy when you're arguing try to reason deeply because each point raised will prove a point that you may not even suspect.
If you're advocating for human government and soldiers to defend your country then you are in support of killing your neighbour at the order of politicians who will hide their own children but order you (who believes in defending your country) to go kill or get killed! wink
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 5:45pm On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:
That's what they are!
Angels in human flesh

Later you be saying nonsense that spirit can't dwell in human flesh.

Can you see how empty you are?

so know that today born again Christians aren't humans no more that's what differentiate them from all other humans because they've been born of spirit {John 3:5-6} Jesus said if they faithfully finish their earthly mission they will no longer resurrect as humans but as what God's Holy Spirit turned them to: angels! Luke 20:34-36 wink

Another nonsensical statement.

"They are angels but until they must faithfully finish their earthly mission they will no longer RESURRECT AS HUMAN but God Holy spirit turned them to: Angels." Brainwashed hallgoer miscreant.

Are you not the same person arguing that you want human ruler?

God never against human ruler is my point.

Reason why you agreed first that Your GB are ruler too until you blocked your dull brain again.

Are you not the same person claiming you must defend your country?

Where? Provide the place.

Guy when you're arguing try to reason deeply because each point raised will prove a point that you may not even suspect.

Do you swallow your own advice? Look into the mirror first.

If you're advocating for human government and soldiers to defend your country then you are in support of killing your neighbour at the order of politicians who will hide their own children but order you (who believes in defending your country) to go kill or get killed! wink

Baseless point.

IS IT NOT YOUR OWN COUNTRY TOO?

So HUMAN government is all about only DEFENDING the COUNTRY.

Since you enjoy ALL BENEFITS from human government, you're also part of those killing people.

My point is God never against human government.

Reason you have been given it different meaning and even went as far to claim your gods in Warwick are ANGEL IN HUMAN FLESH simply because you know they are also human government.
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:52pm On Jan 10
Emusan:

Later you be saying nonsense that spirit can't dwell in human flesh.

This is the only sensitive point!

NO spirit dwells in them rather they have made what Jesus taught them their own that's why God anointed them with the Holy Spirit which means they are marked as prospective corulers with Christ in heaven that's why they have to continue working towards putting on the New personality that was created in the image of God through what Jesus taught them.

Not that something is living inside them o! cheesy
Re: Does God Really Send People To Hell? by Emusan(m): 8:07pm On Jan 10
MaxInDHouse:
This is the only sensitive point!

And your response was senselessness as usual.

NO spirit dwells in them rather they have made what Jesus taught them their own that's why God anointed them with the Holy Spirit which means they are marked as prospective corulers with Christ in heaven that's why they have to continue working towards putting on the New personality that was created in the image of God through what Jesus taught them.

Not that something is living inside them o! cheesy

You said THEY ARE ANGELS

This is from the horse mouth "That's what they are! Angels in human flesh, so know that today born again Christians aren't humans no more..."

What were you smoking before spewing the above?

Master of goofee, always typing before thinking.

Anyway, the point is your gods in Warwick are Human rulers and the true God never against human RULERSHIP.

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