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Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 4:54pm On Aug 16
Since time immemorial, man had always and will always continue to attribute what he cannot do and isn't capable of as part of God's sovereign ability.
Even if there are many many denominations in Christianity, I believe every of them agree that God is Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent. We don't have issues with the last 2 Omni - (for now) , so we will just concentrate on the first one. While this omniscient attribute is sweet to the ears, I want to know if God himself actually claimed/said that he "knows the future".
The floor is open, I don't want substance less opinions and replies invented from what you feel is true or right, instead;
GIVE YOUR ANSWER
DROP SCRIPTURES THAT SUPPORT YOUR ANSWER
EXPLAIN HOW THE SCRIPTURE PROVES THAT GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE.
Cc: Kobojunkie, Maximus69, Jesusjnr2020, MuttleyLaff, Shadeyinka, solite3, budaatum, sonmvayina, Hiswordxray

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by ediama(m): 5:01pm On Aug 16
YES.
The Book of Revelation says it all.
Wonder why many dread it!

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Nobody: 5:02pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
Since time immemorial, man had always and will always continue to attribute what he cannot do and isn't capable of as part of God's sovereign ability.
Even if there are many many denominations in Christianity, I believe every of them agree that God is Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent. We don't have issues with the last 2 Omni - (for now) , so we will just concentrate on the first one. While this omniscient attribute is sweet to the ears, I want to know if God himself actually claimed/said that he "knows the future".
The floor is open, I don't want substance less opinions and replies invented from what you feel is true or right, instead;
GIVE YOUR ANSWER
DROP SCRIPTURES THAT SUPPORT YOUR ANSWER
EXPLAIN HOW THE SCRIPTURE PROVES THAT GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE.

It seems we've met before on some other thread but let me introduce myself once again, i'm Maximus69 one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So am i also welcome in the thread? smiley

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 5:02pm On Aug 16
Maximus69:

So am i also welcome in the thread? smiley
I've invited you already.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 5:04pm On Aug 16
ediama:
YES.

Thanks for your input. Do give a specific bible verse please and explain how the verse/chapter/book proves that God knows the future.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by ediama(m): 5:11pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Thanks for your input. Do give a specific bible verse please and explain how the verse/chapter/book proves that God knows the future.

my dear, Revelation as a whole is the future. Just read the book.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 5:18pm On Aug 16
ediama:


my dear, Revelation as a whole is the future. Just read the book.
That means he also knows where you will end up to spend your eternity. In other words, God knows if you will end up in hell or not, so all the Mumbo-Jumbo you are doing will end up in vain if he had predestined hell for you.
What do you think?

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by thesicilian: 5:22pm On Aug 16
This will not end well

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 5:26pm On Aug 16
thesicilian:
This will not end well
Hmmm... So, what's your answer?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by ediama(m): 5:42pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

That means he also knows where you will end up to spend your eternity. In other words, God knows if you will end up in hell or not, so all the Mumbo-Jumbo you are doing will end up in vain if he had predestined hell for you.
What do you think?

YES.

In Revelation, it is written; those whose names where not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world were cast into hell.

It means all about us set before our existence.

Thats what i understand.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by sonmvayina(m): 5:53pm On Aug 16
When yiu say future what do you mean?.. Like next year,. 5 years time or 100 years.... Put a frame..
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

I've invited you already.

Well God is never Omnipresent, Omnipotent or was he Omniscient!

Those are speculations of credulous religionists presumptuously saying what they feel God should be not what God said about himself!

He began creating everything from the beginning with the plan to give life to so many creatures we are seeing now. Because he has all the powers and HOLY (PURE in mind) he has no evil thoughts so there is nothing that can stop his program.

But some of his spirit sons began having wrong motives that was the Genesis of his regrets, he never saw it coming! Genesis 3:1-5, 6:1-6

As for the Omnis he can see everywhere and everyone on this planet, but his eyes are too pure to continue looking at evil {Habakkuk 1:13} and that's what has been happening after the fall of man in hidden so he decides to focus only on those who are doing things that brings him Joy {Proverbs 27:11} he has dispatched angels to all the four corners of the earth and equipped them with the ability to maintain their neutrality so no matter what a man does to his fellowman they'll just stand watching and after they'll report back to him {Genesis 18:20-21} so he is not everywhere as most religions teach! Isaiah 55:8-8


He's not irrational as man would have expected him to quickly jump into action when their authority is challenged, so he has restrictions on what he can do and what he will not do, that's why Abraham said about him, "i know you, you can't destroy the good along with the wicked" Genesis 18:23 smiley

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 6:23pm On Aug 16
Maximus69:


Well God is never Omnipresent, Omnipotent or was he Omniscient!
1. Are you saying God cannot exceed his nature?
2. What's your answer to the principal question of the thread; Does God know the future?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 6:25pm On Aug 16
ediama:


YES.

In Revelation, it is written; those whose names where not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world were cast into hell.

It means all about us set before our existence.

Thats what i understand.
If this is true, do you realize that it would also mean;
1. Religion is pointless
2. Christianity is pointless
3. Our life on earth is pointless
4. God is not who He says He is.
What do you think?

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by ediama(m): 6:35pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
If this is true, do you realize that it would also mean; 1. Religion is pointless 2. Christianity is pointless 3. Our life on earth is pointless 4. God is not who He says He is. What do you think?
Dont let your heart be worried dear.
The ways of God are not our ways.
Trust in God and love him.
Love what He loves and hate what He does.
God have mercy on us.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 6:40pm On Aug 16
ediama:

Trust in God and love him.

Love what He loves and hate what He does.

God have mercy on us.
Sir, according to you, God already knows that I won't be able to trust him and love what he loves. Who knows, we might both be destined for hell/ eternal sleep (in any case you are a JW).
What say ye?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 6:41pm On Aug 16
So far, the only proof that has been given is the book of revelations... Any body with more valid scriptures?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by CyberEBOLA(m): 6:47pm On Aug 16
GULLIBLE PEOPLE

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 6:51pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Sir, according to you, God already knows that I won't be able to trust him and love what he loves. Who knows, we might both be destined for hell/ eternal sleep (in any case you are a JW).
What say ye?

The man is not one of us undecided
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 7:13pm On Aug 16
DappaD:


The man is not one of us undecided
Alright. So Does your God know the future?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by ediama(m): 7:46pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Sir, according to you, God already knows that I won't be able to trust him and love what he loves. Who knows, we might both be destined for hell/ eternal sleep (in any case you are a JW).
What say ye?

I am destine for paradise God's glorious kingdom that's why i have Jesus. My hope of eternal life.

Ask yourself why has many refuse to açcept even when they have heard or preached to?

why has some refuse to acknowledge him as God's son?

why have i had convinction in my spirit and immediately belief but others reject?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 7:47pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Alright. So Does your God know the future?

Interesting question.

However, the determiner ‘your’ in your statement makes it sound like you've already made up your mind about what I'm about to tell you.

So I'd rather not answer your question seeing it might tow the path of ridicule.

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 7:52pm On Aug 16
ediama:

Ask yourself why has many refuse to açcept even when they have heard or preached to?
According to you, it's because God already condemned them for hell fire.
ediama:

why has some refuse to acknowledge him as God's son?
According to you, it's because God has already written it in "the book of future" that those people will not acknowledge Christ as God's son, this will serve as a sweet reason to send them to hell.

ediama:

why have i had convinction in my spirit and immediately belief but others reject?
According to you, it's because you were Lucky that your name was among those that God wrote in the book of life. Unfortunately for the others, their name was not written, so even if they want to accept him, they will end up rejecting him. Do you know why? According to you, God already destined it that they will reject him.
PS: I'm not trying to put you in a dicey position or in any way ridicule what/who you believe in. I am a Christian and it is my most sincere desire that we know God more and come into oneness with the truth.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 7:54pm On Aug 16
DappaD:


Interesting question.

However, the determiner ‘your’ in your statement makes it sound like you've already made up your mind about what I'm about to tell you.

So I'd rather not answer your question seeing it might tow the path of ridicule.
Honestly, I never intended to ridicule, trust me. I used "your" because you guys sometimes prefer separating yourself from other Christians.
Alright, I will correct myself;
Does God know the future?
PS: By the way, I did enjoy the response of your brother Maximus69 but he hasn't given me his answer to the main question of the thread.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by ediama(m): 8:04pm On Aug 16
I dont know if you speak based on what is written in the Bible or based on your church doctrine.

You ask a question i made reference to revelations. i told u wat i read, that it maybe that God already has chosen his own based on my own undstding.

But u keep making reference to me, am i Bible? make your reference to the bible pls.

I dnt like it.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 8:16pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Honestly, I never intended to ridicule, trust me. I used "your" because you guys sometimes prefer separating yourself from other Christians.
Alright, I will correct myself;
Does God know the future?
PS: By the way, I did enjoy the response of your brother Maximus69 but he hasn't given me his answer to the main question of the thread.

Well, as Jehovah's Witnesses we see ourselves as the only worshipers of our God Jehovah.

That said...

Your question ‘Does God know the future?’ is very broad. It would be better if you could narrow it down a bit.

On the words you bolded yourself, let me get some things straight.

1. Do you mean if He can foretell the future to give his servants a glimpse/hope of the future?

OR

2. Do you mean if He uses foreordination/foreknowledge all the time? Even regards details of the birth and death of all intelligent creatures(humans) from Adam until now?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 8:26pm On Aug 16
ediama:


I dnt like it.
I'm very very sorry. I did edit my previous response to pan out that I didn't intend to make it sound like that.
You know, if the book of revelations indicated that God knows the future, whether we like it or not, it automatically means that God is not exactly who we say he is. If so, the foundation of our belief is destroyed already.
Look at this sir ediama;
2Peter 3:9 - "... But is (The Lord is) patient towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance
The scripture says God does not want anybody to perish. Now, how can a God that doesn't want anybody to perish still predestine Hell for some people?
Do you see the standpoint I'm coming from now?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 8:29pm On Aug 16
DappaD:


Well, as Jehovah's Witnesses we see ourselves as the only worshipers of our God Jehovah.

That said...

Your question ‘Does God know the future?’ is very broad. It would be better if you could narrow it down a bit.

On the words you bolded yourself, let me get some things straight.

1. Do you mean if He can foretell the future to give his servants a glimpse/hope of the future?

OR

2. Do you mean if He uses foreordination/foreknowledge all the time? Even regards details of the birth and death of all intelligent creatures(humans) from Adam until now?



To be sincere, I mean everything that pertains to "What is yet to happen" , so that also includes 1 and 2.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 8:34pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

To be sincere, I mean everything that pertains to "What is yet to happen" , so that also includes 1 and 2.

No, no, no
You've got to be specific.

Number 2 will result from Number 1 if it gets that far.
Choose one first.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Nobody: 8:43pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

1. Are you saying God cannot exceed his nature?
2. What's your answer to the principal question of the thread; Does God know the future?

Well he is doing everything in line with his rules for now so as not to get us upset since he has presented his case with the Bible. But when all this is settled, he will create new things {Revelations 21:3-5 compare to Isaiah 65:24} and come closer to us than he is now!

Of course nothing can stop his good plans so we can say he knows what he has in stock for obedient mankind {Jeremiah 29:11} that's the future! smiley

But each of us needs to know God's program so that we find a way to arrange our own in harmony with his {1John 5:14 compare to Ephesians 1:9} that's why it's not ideal to be ignorant of his plans! Micah 4:12

Jesus sent us (Jehovah's Witnesses) to go and meet people in their homes to notify them of all the plans of our landlord (God) whoever pay attention to the warnings is doing himself much good because angels are penning down the names of both the one preaching and those paying attention {Malachi 3:16} but it's really pathetic that false religion has blinded most of them {2Corinthians 4:4} so even when they see us as harmless doves they still raise objections and accusations! 1Peter 2:12

Thanks and God bless you! smiley
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 8:51pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
Since time immemorial, man had always and will always continue to attribute what he cannot do and isn't capable of as part of God's sovereign ability.
Even if there are many many denominations in Christianity, I believe every of them agree that God is Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent. We don't have issues with the last 2 Omni - (for now) , so we will just concentrate on the first one. While this omniscient attribute is sweet to the ears, I want to know if God himself actually claimed/said that he "knows the future".
The floor is open, I don't want substance less opinions and replies invented from what you feel is true or right, instead;
GIVE YOUR ANSWER
DROP SCRIPTURES THAT SUPPORT YOUR ANSWER
EXPLAIN HOW THE SCRIPTURE PROVES THAT GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE.
Cc: Kobo/junkie, Maximus/69, Jesusjnr/2020, Muttley/Laff, Shade/yinka, solite/3, buda/atum, sonm/vayina, His/wordxray
"Only I can tell you the future before it even happens.
(i.e. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come)
Everything I plan will come to pass, for I do whatever I wish.
(i.e. I say, 'My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please)
"
- Isaiah 46:10

Omniscience is not beans. Isaiah 46:10 above is straight from the Horse mouth. Just knowing an iceberg tip of God, makes you come to know that, God is a God of dread (i.e. Isaiah 8:13)
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 8:53pm On Aug 16
DappaD:

1. Do you mean if He can foretell the future to give his servants a glimpse/hope of the future?
Yes, that's part of my question. Also...
2. Does God know where I will spend my eternity? Eternal life in earth/heaven or Eternal death.

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