burp18:
Lol. I'm from the middle belt. And where have there ever been free and fair elections in Nigeria 😅 Why do you think elections are declared inconclusive when they find its not going their way?

It's possible, it's not uncommon for people from middle belt especially Muslims from Kwara, Kogi, Niger and Nasarawa to be anti-igbo. It's just how the country is right now. It's very common that Christians from Benue, Taraba and Jos will not be anti-igbo.
I suspect that you are Muslim so it's understandable

Since I cannot really stop you from being Igbophobic, can we concentrate more on the solution to this mess?

Workch:
How can Nigeria work when we are not agreeing?

On what basis should we igbos agree with Yorubas and the hausas to make the country work?
Are you in anyways ready to make peace?

This country won't work as long as igbos are maligned, I know what I'm saying.

I'm genuinely asking this question, please don't be sentimental with your answer.

My brother I wonder o, help me ask them.

We saw it (the disunity rearing it's ugly head) in endsars PROTEST. The politicians know this and they are capitalising on it to their advantage to oppress the masses.

The only way, we can possibly unite is if there's a minority on that exalted seat (the iron throne).

We are supposed to be competing with south Africa in terms of all round development not GDP (biggest economy by GDP talk) o 🤣😂

Workch:
I can't take your word for it. You have a history for tribal bigotry against Igbo people. It's in your history.
How do you expect me to take you word for it when you have never been neutral? You see, I can't.


So how do we solve this problem now in your opinion?

How do you solve a problem when you have differing opinions and different people trying to sabotage your efforts. Nigeria is too diverse . We have a multitude of tribes and religions where everyone feels he's the qualified one and should be the one too rule.

Workch:
It's possible, it's not uncommon for people from middle belt especially Muslims from Kwara, Kogi, Niger and Nasarawa to be anti-igbo. It's just how the country is right now. It's very common that Christians from Benue, Taraba and Jos will not be anti-igbo.
I suspect that you are Muslim so it's understandable

Since I cannot really stop you from being Igbophobic, can we concentrate more on the solution to this mess?

Lol. I'm not anti Igbo. A woman I knew who, I'd always say is my godmother is Igbo. Lovely woman. Salt of the earth. She relocated to enugu last year

burp18:
How do you solve a problem when you have differing opinions and different people trying to sabotage your efforts. Nigeria is too diverse . We have a multitude of tribes and religions where everyone feels he's the qualified one and should be the one too rule.

So are you suggesting that we continue this way?
There has to be a solution, remember that your opinon is also part of the differing opinion and that because you hold such opinon does not automatically mean that you are right.

Do you think that the United states kind of democracy of true federalism and resrouce control at regional level can help mitigate this?

Don't you think that it's never going to be fair when you take a resources from another state to find project in another state? Don't you think thay this is the reason why our politicians are lazy and never going to be innovative?
Don't you think that this is the reason they are playing the tribal card to maintain the status quo?

These are questions that you should be asking yourself.

Which part of the country wants the sttus quo more?

Which part is benefiting from it and which part isn't?

These are the questions you people are shying away from and this is where the solution lies.

burp18:
Lol. I'm not anti Igbo. A woman I knew who, I'd always say is my godmother is Igbo. Lovely woman. Salt of the earth. She relocated to enugu last year

Well, I'm sure no one will believe you after going through your history on nairaland. You have a history of cursing, trolling and insulting igbos.
It's the reason why I will hardly believe whatever you say outside of the solution that you are proposing. A bigot never agrees that he's a bigot

burp18:
How do you solve a problem when you have differing opinions and different people trying to sabotage your efforts. Nigeria is too diverse . We have a multitude of tribes and religions where everyone feels he's the qualified one and should be the one too rule.

If we really want to know what the problem of this country is, we need to be logical.
These are the questions we should be asking ourselves?

1. Is the country working? No

2. Why is the country not working? Because the current structure is unfair. It Favours the minority over the majority of Nigerians.

3. Who are the people that does not want this structure to change?
These are the wrong people.

Anybody who's not willing to change this structure is wrong

Workch:
Nigeria is like 3 flatmates living in a 3 bedroom flat apartment.
Two of the flatmates are conniving against one to deny him access to the sitting room and the kitchen.
When the 3rd guy decided that he wanted to leave, they locked the door and made sure that he stayed and accepted the status quo.

Yet these two expect that their flatmate is going to cooperate with them and then peace should reign.
How do you expect such a setting to work?
How do you expect the 3rd guy to cooperate with you, unless he's a coward? 😂

It's why Nigeria may never know peace. It's not a curse.
"A house divided against itself does not work"

As long as there's a deliberate approach to malign a major tribe in this country, Nigeria cannot work. Do you know why?
This will ensure that our energy will be channelled towards the agenda and most of our actions will be made based on hate instead of reason and logic. This will ensure that we never get leadership right.

Nigeria is not a three-man country, but multiple.

And again, if the third guy in question leaves the house and does not come back, no one will ask of him as much as he did not steal from other minorities involved.

Workch:
Okay, so away frm that since we can never reach a consensus there.

How do we resolve this issue of stagnant Nigeria and disunity? Or do you want things to continue like this?

my opinion may differ from the way you see things, we are a diverse people who are always disagreeing with each other. A regional system of government could be the solution here. With each region having to protects it's own make it's own laws. You'd have less disagreements and less outside force to oppose you.

Workch:
Well, I'm sure no one will believe you after going through your history on nairaland. You have a history of cursing, trolling and insulting igbos.
It's the reason why I will hardly believe whatever you say outside of the solution that you are proposing. A bigot never agrees that he's a bigot

you are hilarious. Lmao

Workch:
If we really want to know what the problem of this country is, we need to be logical.
These are the questions we should be asking ourselves?

1. Is the country working? No

2. Why is the country not working? Because the current structure is unfair. It Favours the minority over the majority of Nigerians.

3. Who are the people that does not want this structure to change?
These are the wrong people.

Anybody who's not willing to change this structure is wrong

There's so many things fail to understand. Re-read me initial post. Things are bad no one's disputing that. And anything to change that is welcome. So long as it's not going to drag the country into another unnecessary bloodshed that'll claim the lives of innocent. My point is. You're right to want out. You're right to want to succeed. But you can do that without calling for the heads of those who opposed you or those who decide to be neutral.

burp18:
my opinion may differ from the way you see things, we are a diverse people who are always disagreeing with each other. A regional system of government could be the solution here. With each region having to protects it's own make it's own laws. You'd have less disagreements and less outside force to oppose you.

thank you.
At least, we agree on one thing here.

So who are the people who do not want the status quo to change because of you ask me, many people from my region don't want this status quo, this is apparent

burp18:
you are hilarious. Lmao

It's the truth lol 😂

It's normal, Russia does not like other parts of Europe and vice versa. U.S AND japan does not like China. The only difference here is that you are being hypocritical about yours.

Workch:
thank you.
At least, we agree on one thing here.

So who are the people who do not want the status quo to change because of you ask me, many people from my region don't want this status quo, this is apparent

The very few it benefits. The few that it profits. The same few that are doing all they can to see that the country doesn't work.

burp18:
There's so many things fail to understand. Re-read me initial post. Things are bad no one's disputing that. And anything to change that is welcome. So long as it's not going to drag the country into another unnecessary bloodshed that'll claim the lives of innocent. My point is. You're right to want out. You're right to want to succeed. But you can do that without calling for the heads of those who opposed you or those who decide to be neutral.

Sincerely, I m not even a fan of seceding. I'm a fan of regional government because I know what we are capable of.

I know that this current structure is not favoring us as a region and every Nigerian. So let's forget about seceding., let's focus on a solution like having to divide the sitting room different parts for everyone to manage and make use of and that's regionalism.

Workch:
thank you.
At least, we agree on one thing here.

So who are the people who do not want the status quo to change because of you ask me, many people from my region don't want this status quo, this is apparent

It's not so. There are times when you see a problem, you know the solution but still, some how can't seem to do a thing about it. Because it comes at a cost. A cost that'll have you questioning if it was ever worth it.

burp18:
The very few it benefits. The few that it profits. The same few that are doing all they can to see that the country doesn't work.

do you agree with me that the tribal jamboree is one tool that these few use in keeping the status quo and many of us fall for it?

Workch:
Sincerely, I m not even a fan of seceding. I'm a fan of regional government because I know what we are capable of.

I know that this current structure is not favoring us as a region and every Nigerian. So let's forget about seceding., let's focus on a solution like having to divide the sitting room different parts for everyone to manage and make use of and that's regionalism.

You need to understand that no region is exactly desolate. In other words. Every region will do perfectly well with right people and right policies in place.

burp18:
It's not so. There are times when you see a problem, you know the solution but still, some how can't seem to do a thing about it. Because it comes at a cost. A cost that'll have you questioning if it was ever worth it.

That's true. You can see how we can have sane conversations without abusing each other's tribe?
We are not discussing the real issues, see I don't have to like where you come from and you don't even need to fancy igbos. We just need to put such frivolity aside when these issue is affecting us negatively.

It's the issue I have with most Nigerians, they always fall for the trial gimmick instead of actually facing the issue.

Workch:
do you agree with me that the tribal jamboree is one tool that these few use in keeping the status quo and many of us fall for it?

This That's what you get when you have a house divided against itself. As though that's not enough. We also divided amongst religions. And it doesn't just stop there, Even within the same religion. There arestill divisions😅 Nigeria's problem's the more you look. The less you see

burp18:
You need to understand that no region is exactly desolate. In other words. Every region will do perfectly well with right people and right policies in place.

I totally agree with you. As a matter of fact, I think the north will do more if they have the capacity to manage their resources but why can't it happen. Since we all know that it's the solution, we are some people scared of it.

Workch:
That's true. You can see how we can have sane conversations without abusing each other's tribe?
We are not discussing the real issues, see I don't have to like where you come from and you don't even need to fancy igbos. We just need to put such frivolity aside when these issue is affecting us negatively.

It's the issue I have with most Nigerians, they always fall for the trial gimmick instead of actually facing the issue.

Nigeria's problem is too complicated. The only and quickest problem is a military rule at the hands of the right person.

burp18:
This That's what you get when you have a house divided against itself. As though that's not enough. We also divided amongst religions. And it doesn't just stop there, Even within the same religion. There arestill divisions😅 Nigeria's problem's the more you look. The less you see

Division is everywhere my brother but it's foolish to allow division affect the common goal for better living standard.

I spent a lot of time in Yoruba land, I can tell you that many Yoruba clans do not totally agree on some issues. This also happens in Igbo land even within my state in Abia, even within my local government but the ability to manage these division is what matters. For example, as an Igbo man, because I do not agree with an Anambra man in many internal issues does not meant I won't defend Anambra state in nairaland when Yorubas or Hausas come for them. Now our common goal should be how can we but division aside when serious issues are involved.

Me no Wan make my children meet this kind od a mess called Nigeria o

burp18:
Nigeria's problem is too complicated. The only and quickest problem is a military rule at the hands of the right person.

I'm glad we both agree now that tribalism is a distraction.
It's been a while I had a sane conversation with someone with opposing opinion. We can be having this kind of conversation everyday on nairaland, maybe thing will start to change

Workch:
I totally agree with you. As a matter of fact, I think the north will do more if they have the capacity to manage their resources but why can't it happen. Since we all know that it's the solution, we are some people scared of it.

It is annoying. And frustrating. The north wth all of it's vast lands cannot produce anything. You'll weep at the sight of the cotton that's being transported to Nigeria from Cameroon on a daily basis. Makes you ask. Can't we produce these things? There were times when I'd wish crude will just vanish of off the surface of this country. This overdependency on crude is killing this country. Other countries are opting from cleaner energies and going electric. Nigeria is still exploring crude

Workch:
Division is everywhere my brother but it's foolish to allow division affect the common goal for better living standard.

I spent a lot of time in Yoruba land, I can tell you that many Yoruba clans do not totally agree on some issues. This also happens in Igbo land even within my state in Abia, even within my local government but the ability to manage these division is what matters. For example, as an Igbo man, because I do not agree with an Anambra man in many internal issues does not meant I won't defend Anambra state in nairaland when Yorubas or Hausas come for them. Now our common goal should be how can we but division aside when serious issues are involved.

Me no Wan make my children meet this kind od a mess called Nigeria o

I admire your courage for nursing the thought of having your kids here. I no fit gr pikin for this country. At least not like this

Workch:
I'm glad we both agree now that tribalism is a distraction.
It's been a while I had a sane conversation with someone with opposing opinion. We can be having this kind of conversation everyday on nairaland, maybe thing will start to change

The least we can do is work and pray for a better change to come because as it stands today. I don't see anything improving anytime soon. Unless something happens.

Workch:
I'm glad we both agree now that tribalism is a distraction.
It's been a while I had a sane conversation with someone with opposing opinion. We can be having this kind of conversation everyday on nairaland, maybe thing will start to change

that's quite a nice conversation, the reality is most tribes hate to see the success of an ibo man esp the yorubas.
I believe in your quote.... regionalism is the best answer... but will the north Adopt such steps?

no, regionalism is the best answer..... every states use your resources to develop your region.

Workch:
And everyone will keep suffering for it.
It's simple, who are the biggest losers here. The tribe or everyone?

You will wail till 2031 and beyond

Workch:
Nigeria is like a 3 flatmates living a 3 bedroom flat apartment.
Two of the flatmates are coniving against one to deny him access to the sitting room and the kitchen.
When the 3rd guy decided that he wants to leave, they locked the door and made sure that he stays and accept the status quo.

Yet these two expect that their flatmate is going to cooperate with them and then peace should reign.
How do you expect such a setting to work?
How do you expect the 3rd guy to cooperate with you, unless he's a coward? 😂

It's why Nigeria may never know peace. It's not a curse.
"A house divided against itself does not work"

As long as there's a delibrate approach to malign a major tribe in this country, Nigeria cannot work. You know why?
This will ensure that our energy will be chanelled towards the agenda and most of our actions will be made based on hate instead of reason and logic. This will ensure that we never get leadership right.

The 3rd flat mate father and uncles in the upper chamber said they are comfortable with the condition he must stay.

Workch:
There's no evidence that the yorubas and hausa are more accommodating than Igbos. It's still the same media lies we have been talking about coming from you and other tribal bigots alike.

Theres no evidence that you have been to 34 of 36 states, I have seen a lot of tribal bigots lie here just to defend their bigotry and Igbophobia. You could be doing same

Now to test how smart you are, I will ask you a question, what do you think is the solution to the current Nigerian problem?

Let's stop feeding you with your usual tribal food

And who told you that you are Yoruba, Igbo, or Hausa? How do you know who you are? And who taught you to take side?

See my brother.... You could have been born in any tribe or region in Nigeria and feel like seeing the rest of Nigeria and Nigerians from that view of perspective (be it Yoruba, Igbo, or Hausa). But let me tell you something that is true, where you come from don't matter, and your ethnicity should not define your perception about other tribes or regions because you could easily have been there and then you start reasoning and viewing your current ethnicity from the ethnicity mentality of the other side you were born into.

So a quick fix to the menace slowing and same time rapidly destroying us as people of the country Nigeria; is to first see ourselves as Nigerians irrespective of our different ethnicities.... And to always see ourselves as Nigerians no matter what.... And to let the national anthems and the national pledge guild us solely and condition us in our very educated minds to first of all love our Country greatly, and love the people in our country dearly, treating them as family irrespective whatever ethnicity they are or belong to because it is no fault of theirs that they hail from there, but rather they hail from their ethnicity by divine making of the Almighty and All-knowing God. That is why we went to school in the first place, and that is why we are educated... So our education should reflect in our lives and actions.

I love you all.... And our great country Nigeria will definitely be great.... I am Efe aka Efelexy..... Cheers 🍷.

Workch:
Nigeria is like a 3 flatmates living a 3 bedroom flat apartment.
Two of the flatmates are coniving against one to deny him access to the sitting room and the kitchen.
When the 3rd guy decided that he wants to leave, they locked the door and made sure that he stays and accept the status quo.

Yet these two expect that their flatmate is going to cooperate with them and then peace should reign.
How do you expect such a setting to work?
How do you expect the 3rd guy to cooperate with you, unless he's a coward? 😂

It's why Nigeria may never know peace. It's not a curse.
"A house divided against itself does not work"

As long as there's a delibrate approach to malign a major tribe in this country, Nigeria cannot work. You know why?
This will ensure that our energy will be chanelled towards the agenda and most of our actions will be made based on hate instead of reason and logic. This will ensure that we never get leadership right.

Have known this years back.

Nigeria is an EVIL entity enterprise.

All those top pastors and imams are part of the matrix.