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ARGUMENTS! ARGUMENTS!! ARGUMENTS!!!

The atheist just chose to be smart knowing fully well that his gullible neighbours will come and contribute money to enrich him that's all!

Emusan:
The proof for that is our complex supercomputer.

Is human brain more complex than supercomputer we have today? The answer is Yes!

Was this supercomputer DESIGNED? The answer is another capital YES!

because nothing as complex as supercomputer will be deny of being designed in scientific world today.

So how come something that is far more complex than what great and intelligent scientists, engineers and mathematicians come together to produce has no proof for its complexity?

If, you agree that supercomputer can't come from DULLARD OR UNINTELLIGENT mind, how come you can open mouth to say HUMAN BRAIN doesn't have any proof of DESIGN?

You people know natural processes can't produce the complexity of human brain but will like to push it aside like something that is not note worth, yet praises the great scientists, engineers and mathematicians for their great contribution to give us a complex system like computer and other technologies.

It's easy for you to say the complexity of human brain has no PROOF OF DESIGN but will never dare say the same with supercomputer.

The computer is controlled by humans. The computer cannot take decisions on its own.
Humans are different from computers in existence, but the human brain and the computer have some similarities.
They are made up of different components.

I maintain that the human brain is not intelligently designed. There is no proof of it.
The human brain only DEVELOPS in an intelligent way.

MaxInDHouse:
ARGUMENTS! ARGUMENTS!! ARGUMENTS!!!

The atheist just chose to be smart knowing fully well that his gullible neighbours will come and contribute money to enrich him that's all!

It's cool to have you agree that theists are indeed gullible.

FRANCISTOWN:
It's cool to have you agree that theists are indeed gullible.

"Theists" you say not Christians!
I don't know what you meant by that though but then if you're talking about people who don't believe in the existence of God there are many out there claiming Pastors, Prophets, Reverends and so on!

FRANCISTOWN:
The computer is controlled by humans. The computer cannot take decisions on its own.

Good, do you think a system that can control itself and take decision on its own, doesn't need to be designed?

Humans are different from computers in existence, but the human brain and the computer have some similarities.
They are made up of different components.

I'll go with that @colord part.

That similarities is the key.

Which means the scientists, engineers and mathematicians behind supercomputer are working towards that of HUMAN brain.

I know you're part of people who believe ONE DAY COMPUTER CAN GAIN CONSCIOUSNESS

So, if our computer will one day gain consciousness, will it just evolve to that level or DESIGNED to reach that level?

I maintain that the human brain is not intelligently designed. There is no proof of it.
The human brain only DEVELOPS in an intelligent way.

You might not know how complex the supercomputer is other than you just read or heard it's a complex system. Reason it's easy for you to just say HUMAN BRAIN IS NOT INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED.

Well @color part shows you know the truth.

Dtruthspeaker:
I gave you the proof years ago and you could not fault it which is that no thing in this world created itself!

spaghetti's and animals cannot create and do not create as complex and diverse as a creation which God created to be like Him.

This madman. Lol 😆
This is a new year. Press the start button in your brain
Present your evidence again or shut your piehole

Emusan:
The funny thing is, you'll see them discussion much more about what human brain is capable of but still believe it's a product of just random evolution.

When even supercomputer which not a dullard can produce but products of different genius engineers work don't near that of human brain.

So na your fairy create the brain?
Ever heard of DNA?

triplechoice:
He he he .
I can see you very good at imagining things and believing them as fact. We are not discussing how to use Google my friend, but finding scientific support for your conjectures about the human brain at death. Please be focused if you want us to continue with the discussion But what exactly are those "functions" at death? Unfortunately, you don't know a thing nor can describe it the way it is. You just imagined something in your head and try to use subterfuge to pass it as scientific fact. And the next thing, you want me to search for it in Google.

I said, based on what has been observed by scientists , the human brain is flatline during that period and so not capable of producing such vivid imageries associated with the phenomenon. Flatline doesn't mean no more activity, but not enough to create the experience.

Instead of disputing what I already explained with facts and evidence, you're casting innuendos everywhere.
1. Once again, I never said the brain is no more "functioning" but has gone flatline. Please use Google to help you understand what that means as it concerns NDE.

2. The brain creating movies in the head is not the same activity as the brain helping you to store information so you remember it later. You don't have any evidence the former can happen during that period You just assume and made a logical leap that since the later is possible then, the former is also possible. That's not scientific thinking. My friend.



Instead of wasting my time and directing me to Google, why didn't you just admit you were only engaging you brain to imagine all that you have explained.

If you had admitted that, there won't be any reason for me to drag you any further on this .

Those NDE folks brains doesn't stop functioning. Even when we confirm someone clinically dead, it doesn't mean the brain cant function. The brain remains functioning 5 to 6 minutes after the heart stops pumping. In those 5 or 6 minutes, they can dig into their memory banks and conjure those NDE moments, before return of spontaneous circulation occurs(restart of heartbeat)
Another thing that makes rubbish of NDEs is it is experienced by people of every religion, and each one talks about meeting their resppective gods, or religious experiences. So which god is the real one?
That should tell their experiences are simply religious indoctrinations that are replayed, like explained earlier

Emusan:
As an Atheist, I know you won't agree that human brain was designed.




@underlined is the key.

So, do you think human brain that is far higher and complex than any known computer today can be a work of evolution?



Good, so why do you think a WELL DESIGNED computer who can't even be compared to that of human brain can't come through evolution but human brain can?

So if it was designed, then you're indicting whoever created it(who u assume is your god). Are you aware some babies are born without brains, some with brain malfunctions? This your maker must be a hell of a goofy fairy

FRANCISTOWN:
No now. Stop this mental projection.

I haven't said anywhere that the human brain is a product of evolution. Therefore, you cannot engage me based on what I've not said.

Actually the human brain is a product of evolution. Not just the brain, but other organs. Some other organs have evolved too like the coccyx(tail bone),appendix, pineal etc

Emusan:
Okay, let me ask then.

To you, do you think human brain was designed or through random evolution?

Evolution is not random. At least read up about it before typing crap

Emusan:
You're right!



I like this!

For something to develop, it means the thing is happening under set of rules.

For instance, when to start developing and when top stop.

This are the same rules applicable in the scientific world, reason why we could have a complex system like microprocessor e.t.c and the reason why apply the word "DESIGN" to them.

Ever heard of DNA?

Emusan:
The proof for that is our complex supercomputer.

Is human brain more complex than supercomputer we have today? The answer is Yes!

Was this supercomputer DESIGNED? The answer is another capital YES!

because nothing as complex as supercomputer will be deny of being designed in scientific world today.

So how come something that is far more complex than what great and intelligent scientists, engineers and mathematicians come together to produce has no proof for its complexity?

If, you agree that supercomputer can't come from DULLARD OR UNINTELLIGENT mind, how come you can open mouth to say HUMAN BRAIN doesn't have any proof of DESIGN?

You people know natural processes can't produce the complexity of human brain but will like to push it aside like something that is not note worth, yet praises the great scientists, engineers and mathematicians for their great contribution to give us a complex system like computer and other technologies.

It's easy for you to say the complexity of human brain has no PROOF OF DESIGN but will never dare say the same with supercomputer.

Why do you avoid debates with me? Lol. Even after I bring evidence for you? Your god no like truth?

MaxInDHouse:
"Theists" you say not Christians!
I don't know what you meant by that though but then if you're talking about people who don't believe in the existence of God there are many out there claiming Pastors, Prophets, Reverends and so on!

Who is a Christian? How come there are different definitions from different sects?

FRANCISTOWN:
The human brain is not a result of an intelligent design. There is no proof of that.

What do you think?

Your own brain is a product of design or na by accident?

Pick one that suits how your brain was developed (speak for yourself yiur brain)

jaephoenix:
Evolution is not random. At least read up about it before typing crap

Something or someone or itself guides it?

jaephoenix:
So na your fairy create the brain?
Ever heard of DNA?

DNA has codes
It can translate

Can translation of any language happen by accident?

jaephoenix:
So na your fairy create the brain?
Ever heard of DNA?

No
The brain created itself na and placed itself there with all the nerves and tissues and connections
As your blind evolutionists tell you
Your ancestor had some mental disruptions in the brain and that brought about intelligence. Madness bring about intelligence?

FRANCISTOWN:
The human brain is not a result of an intelligent design. There is no proof of that.

Yet you refuse to acknowledge that the brain came by evolution
What a shame
Very indecisive!

jaephoenix:
Who is a Christian? How come there are different definitions from different sects?

Because there is critical thinking skill in wisdom. If you ask an atheist to define atheism he will quote what someone else said but then ask five different people to apply it they will turn to different angles.
So to be sure of what you are saying you need critical thinking skill not just a definition from someone!

jesusjnr2020:
Thanks for proving me right that you will still hold fast to your hypocrisy, despite the Op proving your assertion on my thread wrong, hence it would have been a waste of time mentioning you.

The bolded below was the basis you provided for calling it a fake story:



This bolded below was what the atheist himself claimed he said at the critical moment when he was dying of lack of breath:

If he didn't make it alive, and I added his last words to the list, you will still call it a fake story, abi?

Or you will still ask me for evidence since I wasn't there myself?

Try and calm down a bit and observe carefully how the former atheist proved your words @ bolded above to be ignorant, but i wouldn't be surprised if you even doubt his story and call it fake too, despite the fact he narrated it himself, not me. Anything that seems to go against your anti-religious sentiments must be fake.

Damn sure you wouldn't have come after me calling my story fake, if It said instead their last words were "atheism til death".

Bwahahahahaha! Pot calling kettle black. After I proved that your story was fake you refused to respond to my last post below. Keep lying for Jesus nah, that's what you are good at. LoLz!

jaephoenix:
So na your fairy create the brain?
Ever heard of DNA?

So DNA dey create? Men una madness dey.everlasting

jaephoenix:
Why do you avoid debates with me? Lol.

I guess your conscience is judging you

Even after I bring evidence for you?

Where is the evidence?

Your god no like truth?

My God is the very Truth.

What does your own god like?

Aemmyjah:
What do you think?

Your own brain is a product of design or na by accident?

Pick one that suits how your brain was developed (speak for yourself yiur brain)

The word

evolution

is really a strong word and could be used in a wrong context.
My brain is simply a product of a gradual development. Have I answered your question?

Aemmyjah:
Yet you refuse to acknowledge that the brain came by evolution
What a shame
Very indecisive!

My own brain didn't come strictly by evolution. Neither is my brain a product of an intelligent design.
My parents created me. My brain is a part of me, therefore as I was growing and developing. My brain was doing the same.
I say again, my brain is a product of gradual development.

MaxInDHouse:
"Theists" you say not Christians!
I don't know what you meant by that though but then if you're talking about people who don't believe in the existence of God there are many out there claiming Pastors, Prophets, Reverends and so on!

Anyone who believes in any form of supernatural being is a theist.

FRANCISTOWN:
My own brain didn't come strictly by evolution. Neither is my brain a product of an intelligent design.
My parents created me. My brain is a part of me, therefore as I was growing and developing. My brain was doing the same.
I say again, my brain is a product of gradual development.

Your parents created you?
U dis guy ehn

FRANCISTOWN:
The word is really a strong word and could be used in a wrong context.
My brain is simply a product of a gradual development. Have I answered your question?

Evidence?
Any organism today with half a brain or partially formed brain?

jaephoenix:
Those NDE folks brains doesn't stop functioning. Even when we confirm someone clinically dead, it doesn't mean the brain cant function. The brain remains functioning 5 to 6 minutes after the heart stops pumping. In those 5 or 6 minutes, they can dig into their memory banks and conjure those NDE moments, before return of spontaneous circulation occurs(restart of heartbeat)
Another thing that makes rubbish of NDEs is it is experienced by people of every religion, and each one talks about meeting their resppective gods, or religious experiences. So which god is the real one?
That should tell their experiences are simply religious indoctrinations that are replayed, like explained earlier

Thank you so much.

@triplechoice. This is coming from a certified medical practitioner.Therefore, come and plead your ignorance and apologize appropriately.

Aemmyjah:
Evidence?
Any organism today with half a brain or partially formed brain?

Yes of course.
There are many cases such as anencephaly, microcephaly and so on.

Aemmyjah:
Your parents created you?
U dis guy ehn

Yes of course. Have you ever seen a baby fall from the sky or grow from the soil?
If my parents didn't come together, I wouldn't be alive today. And so it is for everyone who cometh into this world. Our parents created us. Period.

FRANCISTOWN:
Yes of course. Have you ever seen a baby fall from the sky or grow from the soil?
If my parents didn't come together, I wouldn't be alive today. And so it is for everyone who cometh into this world. Our parents created us. Period.

To give birth to something or someone is different from creating it
I'm teaching you for free
Ignoramus