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Noah's Descendant by IDINRETE: 11:18pm On Aug 29, 2007
"These were the sons of Noah[shem ,Ham and Japeth], and from these the whole earth was populated." Genesis 9:19
"These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood, Genesis 10: 32[King James Version]"

This is just a puzzle and mind-boggling to me. Could nairalanders please clarify why the Asians-Chinese, Japanese,Indians], Africans do not resemble Jewish people who claim to be descendants of Noah if we are to accept that it was only Noah, his wife, Shem, Ham and Japeth and their wives were on earth after the flood.

why the difference in colour of skin, hair and other bodily features if all races sprang from Noah?
Re: Noah's Descendant by Dios(f): 6:01am On Aug 30, 2007
Incest galore grin
Re: Noah's Descendant by pilgrim1(f): 10:27am On Aug 30, 2007
IDINRETE:

why the difference in colour of skin, hair and other bodily features if all races sprang from Noah?

Acts 17:26
'And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation'

"Made of one blood" - was that Noah or Adam? grin
Re: Noah's Descendant by cgift(m): 12:14pm On Aug 30, 2007
My daughter is fairer than both me and my wife. How do you explain it?
Re: Noah's Descendant by pilgrim1(f): 12:23pm On Aug 30, 2007
Well, probably has to be settled between Noah and Adam? undecided

Just kidding ya.
Re: Noah's Descendant by jagunlabi(m): 5:34pm On Aug 30, 2007
IDINRETE:

"These were the sons of Noah[shem ,Ham and Japeth], and from these the whole earth was populated." Genesis 9:19
"These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood, Genesis 10: 32[King James Version]"

This is just a puzzle and mind-boggling to me. Could Nairaland users please clarify why the Asians-Chinese, Japanese,Indians], Africans do not resemble Jewish people who claim to be descendants of Noah if we are to accept that it was only Noah, his wife, Shem, Ham and Japeth and their wives were on earth after the flood.

why the difference in colour of skin, hair and other bodily features if all races sprang from Noah?
Nouah was not the only survivor of the deluge.There were other survivors in other parts of the world and they kickstart the reproduction of mankind again,with the help of the various gods(extraterrestrial beings) that were present at the time.
The various world myths corroborate this.
Re: Noah's Descendant by Ndipe(m): 2:27am On Aug 31, 2007
Only Noah and his family members survived the deluge, which affected the length and breadth of the world. Let nobody deceive you into believing that the flood was only restricted in a certain locale where Noah and his family lived. The Holy Bible should serve as the FINAL authority!
Re: Noah's Descendant by cgift(m): 10:50am On Aug 31, 2007
Na wa o! People just they cook up tori. Wish kain tin be dis?
Re: Noah's Descendant by denex: 6:02pm On Sep 03, 2007
Noah and his 3 sons (Ham, Shem and Japheth) with their wives were likely of the Twa tribes (Pygmies) originally of Central Africa. They were all dwarf height, brown-skinned, curly-haired people. Their ark landed around the Southern Cush (Modern Ethiopia).




Japheth must have been the first to leave their settlement prior to the continental drift soon after the ark landed.


There were other people in the Northern Hemisphere because some records indicate that Japheth went into the land of the Gentiles. Anyway, Japheth's descendants known as the Grimaldian Africoids moved through what is today known as Europe and landed in the North East of Eurasia (Modern day Russia).


With the cold temperatures and the severely low penetration of sunlight, the Japhetic people began to adapt to their new environment. Their skin began to de-melaninize since they didn't need the extra protection from the harsh sunlight of Africa and also, their body in fact needed penetration of sunlight for the synthesis of Vitamin D. Years of low vitamin D production had made their bones thin out due to inability to properly utilize Calcium ions.


This long period of thousands of years of inbreeding among these Japhetic tribes in North Eastern Eurasia gave rise to the Caucasoid people of today. Gradually, as populations began to increase over time, these peoples spread across the Northern Hemisphere through Eastern Europe, to Central Europe and in the last thousand years, to Western Europe. Then in the recent centuries, to America.




The Hamitic and Semitic peoples lived together for thousands of years in Cush and other parts of Africa and they mixed and intermarried to the extent that there was little difference in their lifestyles, physical outlook and the Hamito-Semitic language which they spoke.


As populations began to explode among the Hamito-Semitic tribes, descendant of Ham and Shem, started to migrate westerly. Some went as far as Mali in West Africa but there was a predominantly Semitic tribe settled in the South Western Nubia (modern day Sudan). And there was a predominantly Hamitic tribe around the Nile Delta (of modern day Egypt).




There came a period when Lake Sahara (Modern day Sahara Desert) began to shrink and there was a severe drought for several years in North-East and North-West. A lot of tribes in the settlements of Nubians recieved news that the people of the Nile and the kingdom of the Pharaohs, Iknaton (mainland Egypt) had stored up excess food to last the drought and much to sell. This made a lot of the tribes migrate to Ikhnaton and the Nile Delta under the rule of the Pharaoh.


With the uniting of the most prominent Hamitic and Semitic tribes of those ages, transfer of technology, adequate population, synergy, science, philosophy, construction and massive accumulation of wealth made the Nile region under the Pharaohs the most advanced Nation in the world for centuries.



As advances were made in the Nile, a group of the most prominent Philosophers, Alchemists, Astrologists, Engineers, Artists and Mathematicians in the land wanted to play a large role in governance. The Pharaoh rejected their offer and they decided to leave the Nile to the far west to start a new civilization.


These technocrats settle on a strip of land connecting the shores of Gambia, West Africa to the coast of Brazil, East America. This land, was in the middle of the ocean and was known as Atlantis. The Philosophers, Alchemists, Astrologists, Engineers, Artists and Mathematicians developed technology millenia ahead of the rest of the world. They enslaved other tribes and used them to build an ultra-ultra-modern kingdom south of the Cape Verde Mountains. They were so advanced that some modern historians believe they may have used radioactive crystals to power their machines(I personally don't know about that).


The kingdom of Atlantis collapsed when continued continental drift caused most of the land to become depressed and submerged into the ocean that is now known as the Atlantic Ocean.



The slaves of the Atlanteans escaped in multitudes which gave rise to the tribes of Amahuaca, Kogi, Yanomami, etc of the tropical Amazonian forests (Modern day South and Central America) and the Cherokee, Apache, Mohawks etc of the temperate and desert regions (Modern North America). There were are few Atlanteans who came down to the Amazon region, they were worshipped by the Amazonians for ages, and when they died, were buried in Pyramids similar to the old royal Nile tombs.




Back in the Nile kingdoms, when the Pharaoh learn of how much progress the renegades in Atlantis had made to surpass the mother-kingdom, he tried to play catch up and had to make strategic decision to use slaves which he found in Cushite and Nubian brothers. The Pharaohs enslaved these Hebrew tribes whom together were called the Children of Yaqov (bnei Yisrael).


After centuries of slavery, respite came when the members of the 12 tribes were led by a certain unifying individual who took them across the Red Sea to the Sinai Desert where they went in circles for decades before they finally reached the promised land of Canaan, Province of Assyrian Phillistia (Modern day Jerusalem, Gaza and Lebanon). This journey is what is now called the Exodus (Original Semitic Emigration From Africa).


Though the Canaanites were the most elderly of the Hamitic tribes but had become very weak because of their tradition of isolation from all other tribes, heavy taxation from the Central Phillistine Government and several invasions by the Assyrians, Babylonians and Persians. They were easily defeated by the Semitic Hebrew tribes who claimed most of the land around those areas. Most of the Hamitic tribes in Canaan moved to South East Asia in the Region of the Indus Valley (Modern day Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India).


These Hamitic Canaanite tribes were later visited, conquered by the Japhetic tribes migrating from the North and pushed further South of India. This came in the form of invasion by the Turkish and Arabs.




Though the Central Phillistine Government tried continuously to recapture their colony of Canaan from the Hebrews, but they were repelled.




For centuries the Hebrews lived in Canaan, located in the middle of Phillistia. They broke up into 2 groups. Some of the Hebraic tribes formed the Medinat Yisrael (Modern day Palestine/Israel) in Jerusalem located in the North of Canaan. The rest of the Hebraic tribes formed the Kingdom of Iudea/Judah (in Modern day Israel too).




Not long after the conquest of Canaan, the Hebrews themselves began to suffer large waves of conquests on them by the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persian Greeks and Romans. The Northern Medinat Yisrael was completely devastated and sacked. Most of the citizens had to seek asylum in the Babylonian and Persian empires. The elites among them were able to migrate back to the Southern Kingdom of Judah. By this time, all the descendants of the Northern Kingdom of Yisrael and those of the Southern Kingdom of Iudaea remaining in the region came to be generally known as Jews/Judaeans (People of Judah/Iudaea).




During the European rule of the Hebrews, especially under the Romans, racism and segregation began to cause much persecution of the Judeans/Judes (Jews) by the Romans. This persecution, massacre and slaughter continued for ages and multitudes of Jews began to migrate to other more tolerant parts of the Roman empire especially the land of the Germanians, Barbarians and the Brutish. The majority of Jews however, migrated to the South of Modern day Russia, outside the Roman empire.




Those Jews who chose to wait for the saviour in the promised land witnessed the arrival of Yashua ha Mashiach/Yeshua ha Meshiach (Jesus the Messiah), but his arrival only made things worse for them. Divisions grew within the tribes, more persecution by the Romans on hearing word of a new king outside their authority and finally, the undoing of the Jews was their own belief that the Messiah empowered them to defeat the Romans. Their uprisings were quashed and they were finally sacked from Judah, millions were massacred and millions other more fled into Persia and remote European hinterlands. The whole of the land together was




The Sassanians and the Byzantine also conquered Judah and Jerusalem, but by this time, the Hebrew, Jewish and Israeli tribes had dwindled to minute settlements.




The Arabs conquered the lands of Jerusalem, Judah and surrounding settlements about the year 700 during their Jihads. By this time, Europeans were the major inhabitants of the then Provincia Syria Palaestina (renamed by the Romans).


During the next 800 years, the land passed from the Arabs to the European Crusaders, then the Mongols, and finally, around 1500 to the Ottoman Empire (Modern day Turkey).




The Ottoman Empire occupied Palaestina till the about 1920 when the land was annexed during World War I and handed to British Control by the League of Nations.




The Hebrews in Europe, having helped the League of Nations to end the First World War, requested the British Mandate of Palestine (renamed by the British). While the request was still being considered, the Hebrews in Europe started the second, third, fourth and fifth Aliyah (Ascent or Jewish Migration). The first Aliyah which was the migration of farmers, occured much earlier between 1882 and 1903.


The second, third, fourth and fifth Aliyah landed about a quarter million Hebrews in Palestine and this begins to cause dissent from the Arab citizens of Palestine and the British Government of Palestine against the massive Hebrew immigrants. The British Government bans immigration of Hebrews to Palestine when they issued the White Paper in 1939 and made it illegal for Palestinian lands to be sold to Hebrews.




At the end of World War I, the Hebraic Jews took charge of the Austrian and German economies and prospered. Several Austrians and Germans began to convert massively to Judaism. These were referred to as the Ashkenazi Jews (or Yuhude Ashkenaz/Jude Ashkenazi meaning Dutch Land Jews).




This conversion of Germans to Judaism didn't quite provoke the Nazi (Dutch) of Austria and Germany. What really irritated them was firstly, the involvement of the Hebrew jews in securing the defeat of Germany and Austria during the First World War, secondly was the attitude of new Hebrew immigrants of the Zulu and Khoikhoi tribe from Africa who were less conservative than regular Hebrew Jews, thereby interbreeding with the Austrian Dutch women, given rise to a large population of Half-Castes (derogatively referred to as the Rhineland Bastards).




The Holocaust began in Germany when the German people began to progress under the leadership of Adolf Hitler who strove to rid DutscheLande of the Hebrews and Rhineland Bastards by eliminating them to preserve the purity of the Nazi race, and punishing the Dutch citizens who treasonably converted to Ashkenazi Jews.




When the war fully broke out, ALL the Hebrew, Zulu and Khoikhoi Jews, including the mixed race Rhineland Bastards in Germany, Austria and their occupied territories were eliminated mostly by gassing and incineration.


Those pure Dutch and Europeans who had converted to jews but were not of mixed race were used as slaves in the concentration camp as punishment for their treason. They were the ones who survived the Holocaust, though a lot died of starvation and disease.


Today they are known as the Ashkenazi Jews, who make up 80% of all Jews in modern day Israel. So Dutch who converted to Judaism before the Holocaust now make up the majority of modern day Israelites.


During Hitler's time, the Ashkenazi Jews were so many, they made up more than 92% of all Jews in the world. Prior to this boom in the 20th century, the Jews in Germany made up only 3% of worldwide Jews.


That is why today, the surnames of most Jews are names of German origin.




Meanwhile, in Africa, through the millenia, the mix Hamitic and Semitic tribes settled in different locations according to their families.


The Hamito-Semitic tribes who remained in Cush (modern day Ethiopia) during the emigration of other tribes maintained the most of potent of cultures and traditions of Noah and his descendants. Their official National Language is still even Amharic (Armaic) which was the language spoken by Noah, Shem, Ham, Japheth, Avram, Isaac and Yakov before the Hebrew language evolved. They still have the original dishes prepared with the original recipes the same way as millenia ago. They have some of the oldest copies of the Talmud (Torah). Several tens of thousands of them have been airlifted to Jerusalem during Operation Moses in 1984 and Operation Solomon in 1991 to join at the promised land but a lot of them (50,000) prefered to stay in the homeland. They are today referred to as the Beta Israel Jews. They make up the second largest group of original Israelites.


The Mizrahi tribe, after migrating from Cush during the era of the Lake Sahara, settled in the North West of Africa (Modern day Morrocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Libya). They are now called Mizrahi Jews


The Bilad al-Nubia Jews of ancient Songhai empire (Modern Niger, Mali and Eastern Chad) are widespread and migrated from Nubia (Modern Sudan) through Chad and settled in various parts of the Songhai empire which was the largest spread empire in Africa. The tribes emanating from the migrant Bilad al-Nubia include the Berber jewish communities and Iddao Ishaak. They have almost been diminished to insignificance due to the Arab and Islamic Jihads. Those not massacred or converted to Islam during the Jihad were converted to Christianity during the European and Christian Slavery, Invasions and Colonial Crusades.


The Lemba tribe went back South towards the original cradle of life and are still nomads and Shepherds giving rise to several tribes including the Zulu, Tya, Bantu and Khoikhoi in the South and South East Africa (Malawi, Zimbabwe and Republic of South Africa). They are now referred to as the Lemba Jews.


The Ozubulu (Zebulun) tribe settle in a wide area of Central Africa, around the Bight of Biafra (Modern day Bight of Bonny enveloping: Sao Tome & Principe, Equatorial Guinea, Southern Cameroon and South-East Nigeria).
The Hebraic people of the Ibo, Cameroonian Guinean and Sao Tomean composition form the largest single tribe, the Ozubulu. Spread across 3 countries and several Islands. Before the advent of the European and Christian invasions, slavery and colonization, the Ozubulu family had populations that exceeded 10 million. The tribe had migrated from Egypt before the Exodus. The large population of the Ozubulu, Eri Nri and Ba-Saa tribes was as a result of it's location in an area that could not be penetrated by Arab and Islamic jihadists.
However, the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Subsequent Colonization would end all this.




There are several other groups of people around the world and most trace their origin to the East African Cradle of Life. Even the Chinese trace their origin to Sudan and Eritrea based on linguistic similarities.






So this is how I understand history, since the alighting of Noah from the Ark.

(you can help make corrections)
Re: Noah's Descendant by IDINRETE: 6:13pm On Sep 03, 2007
Their ark landed around the Southern Cush (Modern Ethiopia).

Are you serious? what happened to Mount Ararat?
Re: Noah's Descendant by Dios(f): 7:09pm On Sep 03, 2007
Its a fable

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Re: Noah's Descendant by manibuds(m): 3:50pm On Jun 10, 2012
stumbled on this interesting thread.why cant you guys just update us on the genographic/human genome project instead of all these stories.
we have been blessed with the discovery of DNA coding.no need to fabricate stories about ancestors.religious empires are trembling with fear,because the more we know about our ancestors the more we will all realise that we have been fighting with brothers

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