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In the late 90s they were paid in the UK,I don't know about now.

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rexbuton:
This is a simple matter. I'll answer by asking a few questions.
1. Should people who clean the church be paid?

2. Should ushers be paid?
3. Should members who control traffic at church gates be paid??
4. Should I be paid for devoting my time to attend church?

Time is money. True or false?
If I should be paid for playing drums, it is like asking for a percentage of the offering and tithe I gave.

Service in church is an OFFERING to God. It is done as an act of faith. Without faith, it is like throwing away time or wasting money. God says if we offer our time and resources, he opens the windows of heaven. If you don't believe God's scripture literally, then you have no business attending church, praying or giving offering. An investment savings account will yield better returns. Without faith, God will give you nothing.

So the answer is that, services to God, can only be paid for by God to whom the service is offered. But if the instrumentalist enters a contract to provide a service to the pastor or church as a body for financial gain, then he must be paid. He receives his reward there and then.

The other side of the coin is that, modern churches today, expect church workers to dress in uniforms. The church has to support them as much as possible, especially if these clothes expensive, so as not to place an extra burden on the members. Jesus said "my burden is light".

In addition to this, charity must begin in the church. Members who God has blessed must start their charity from people who are engaged in the service of the lord. In Acts of the Apostles, early Christians brought their resources to be shared with the brethren.

A final question is, but full-time pastors are paid., so why not pay instrumentalists. The bible says he who does not work, should not eat. Full time pastors are engaged in the church office everyday of the week, preaching on service days, counselling on other days, and attending to other church missions eg.administration of church schools, pastoral missions to new parishes, and general administrative work. Part time pastors are not paid from church accts. Instrumentalists are workers or in the extreme case, part time ministers.

In summary, our service is unto God and not man. We must be careful not to be deceived by false teachings in the world and lose our reward. God bless you.

You can't compare ursher, traffic, cleaner service to instrumentalists

Many churches are looking for instrumentalists

If a instrumentalists is trained by the church I believe it will be difficult to insist on salary

Is it a must to use rigorous instruments on the church

My brother I don't know you but God richly bless you for what you just wrote ...that clarify this controversy..I know pastor ibiyome will be quoted out of context by many people.. some don't even understand the meaning of the statement but they are so quick to talk and say all manner but what he said is the truth..

God commands us to render services to Him in His house , so why should we be expecting monetary gain? If the church gives us on their own it's good but insisting we must be paid is ungodly

Richfan:
My brother I don't know you but God richly bless you for what you just wrote ...that clarify this controversy..I know pastor ibiyome will be quoted out of context by many people.. some don't even understand the meaning of the statement but they are so quick to talk and say all manner but what he said is the truth..

God commands us to render services to Him in His house , so why should we be expecting monetary gain? If the church gives us on their own it's good but insisting we must be paid is ungodly

kindly state verbatim the statement made by Ibiyeomie and then tell us the meaning of the statement so we can properly understand it.

for the highlighted, the people that build church buildings do they do it for free?

Offpoint1:
Yes, if pastors are getting paid why do y'all want instrumentalist to play for free?
. After all the purpose of tithes and offerings is be used in running the church. (Giving to God is the psychological way to manipulate the people to give. We all know logically, you can't literally give God nothing)


Church business is the most lucrative business, everything is expected to be done for free while millions are being made monthly.


I stopped going to church because no one can convince me church isn't business center.

When these men talked about expanding kingdom, it has nothing to do with souls. It's all about building more church branches for profitability. It's all about numbers, whether they are save or not.

The local churches are tasked with weekly budgets they'll deliver to the headquarters, pastors that don't meet up their financial targets for long are mostly transfered to village branches or lower churches as form of punishment.

Most of these pastors had to result into holding on ending weekly services and organizing crusades, invite sweet talkers fellow pastors, just to meet up these targets.


I've seen a lot of things and I doubt I'll ever go to church again.

These men don't give a shit about your salvation.
You see those wretched looking pastors? They're mostky the true pastors who refused to compromised.

This is the reason many church goers today are not saved. Quantity over quality.

DesChyko:
We must be realistic. Churches recruit instrumentalists and pay them heavy just to come and play. They even recruit technicians on weekly basis to manage their setups. If any church can do that on a whim, they should have no problems paying those who do that without an additional stress from the church.

In their defence, God has given them a talent to feed with. It will be silly if them to let that go without actualisation. Especially as a Nigerian.

I have this friend, who had similar issues with where he worships. As a string instrumentalist, he only asked for 3k after each Sunday service, I think (before all these inflation). He already makes some quid on weekdays from services and vigils he performs. He always discussed this with me, but mehn, no be me go tell you make you leave House of God o 🤣.

One day, he called it quits and left, with the pastors and members saying all sorts. That's how Henry became available for contracts. He attends service wherever he plays on Sundays. It didn't take long for the church to realise how expensive it is to hire instrumentalists around and they wanted him back. Unfortunately, the ship had left the harbour as Henry was now highly sought after and quite pricey too. He also sought my opinion on this but Omo, no be me go tell you make you drop where you dey feed from before you go use beg finish me 😏

🤣🤣🤣 if hypocrisy was a person. Your hands are always clean.

I believe everyone that comes to the church came to make that day a great day, and have something doing that provides income, unless such people spend 24hrs in the church like the security I don't think the should be paid.

micxwell:
🤣🤣🤣 if hypocrisy was a person. Your hands are always clean.

Bros abeg 🤣🤣

Make person no use I'm hand bury imsef o

PAY ALL or PAY NON!

the pastors getting paid or GO CEO spending tithe and offering doesn't have two heads.

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

Wrong.

Instrumentalists are not labourers of the word

Biblically, only preachers/leaders are expected to be paid

1 Tim 5: 17-18

17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

18 For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

If the pastor and his family is feeding from the church....every church worker and not just instrumentalists should be given something from the church purse

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

Should pastors be paid?

I am an instrumentalist.

Right now, I'm not being paid to play, but when I was a student, I was paid, because I had to go for programmes 3 times a week and rehearsals once a week. I had to be at church earlier than most people to set up and do sound check with my keyboardist (now a producer of some modest amount of fame, but I digress).

The church was far from my home, and I had no reason to go that far and pay quite an amount for transport. My fellow instrumentalists were full-time musicians, the producer I mentioned earlier and a guitarist. All they did to feed and live was music. And they chose to do it in Church.

Make Church no pay. Clubs go pay.

Then you wonder why guys start in Church and end up in clubs.

Anyway, I don't need the church to pay me now, as I got a job. I'm also older now, my son plays and he plays for free because he doesn't need to earn money right now. He's still in his teens.

When he's older, I'll encourage him to get paid for his skills and develop himself.

Where are jobs right now in Nigeria?

Back to my first question, are pastors getting paid?

Of course!

So, why shouldn't instrumentalists who really need the money get paid as well?

If you don't need the money, no wahala.

However, if you need it to feed, clothe yourself, pay the rent and stuff, and the Church can pay, please they should.

Pastors, Church employees like secretaries, drivers and security guards are on salary, naa. Yet the instrumentalists are arguably more important than most paid employees except the ministers themselves.

Like I said, let the churches pay if the musicians need the money.

Even if they wanna use the Bible, the Levites were the musicians in the tabernacle and temple, and they also got their share of the tithes as they had no other inheritance in Israel.

In fact, the priests are picked out from among the Levites.

Hmmm ... it depends. If the church is run as a business .... yes ... they make up the band and are therefore employees. If the church is run as a place of worship and praise ... then no ... they are also there worshipping and praising God. .... some singing ... some clapping stomping and dancing .... just that they praising using the instruments. Should the singers and clappers be paid too? ... I don't think so.

Now how do you know if the church is a business and should demand payment?.... if the pastor and family and inner circle is living larger than life off of the backs of church members.

Yes pay them

Originalsly:
Hmmm ... it depends. If the church is run as a business .... yes ... they make up the band and are therefore employees. If the church is run as a place of worship and praise ... then no ... they are also there worshipping and praising God. .... some singing ... some clapping stomping and dancing .... just that they praising using the instruments. Should the singers and clappers be paid too? ... I don't think so.
Now how do you know if the church is a business and should demand payment?.... if the pastor and family and inner circle is living larger than life off of the backs of church members.

In case you don't know, instrumentalists get to Church before everyone else, and they usually leave last, because they are also the technical crew guys.

You don't know the amount of work that goes into it, so don't compare them with people who just come to dance and clap. Those ones arrive church almost 2 hours after the instrumentalists and leave immediately after service unless den wan see Pastor.

Not really paying them but they can be appreciated in cash and kind to cover their transportation and clothing plus the money and time they spent in learning how to play the instruments.

Jeezuzpick:
In case you don't know, instrumentalists get to Church before everyone else, and they usually leave last, because they are also the technical crew guys.

You don't know the amount of work that goes into it, so don't compare them with people who just come to dance and clap. Those ones arrive church almost 2 hours after the instrumentalists and leave immediately after service unless den wan see Pastor.

Has nothing to do with the time or energy spent .... at least two people have commented here that they were instrumentalists .... OP and I think one like in charge of everything ... they didn't complain about time spent and all that ... they feel they were playing their part in the praise and worship... just like the singers and clappers.

I remember when I was a student abroad. Every Saturday we went to clean the church with our “African mentality” that we were working for God for free. We didn’t know that our leader was placed on a salary for that role and she was quietly pocketing the money. The day we found out was the day we stopped cleaning.

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

Why are pastors receiving salaries for their services too?

Gone are those days instrumentalist will play for free nowadays na highest bidder in my church we Dey pay organist and drummer if we no pay dem no go come bdat

If they are the members of the church no.

Originalsly:
Has nothing to do with the time or energy spent .... at least two people have commented here that they were instrumentalists .... OP and I think one like in charge of everything ... they didn't complain about time spent and all that ... they feel they were playing their part in the praise and worship... just like the singers and clappers.

Hmmmmm......okay.

Lemme agree with you.

It's just that I know how many young men I and my wife (who's a song leader) encounter who are good musicians, yet unemployed and struggling with poverty while the Church insists they play for free.

Sometimes my wife has to give them something out of her pocket so that they can transport themselves to a programme.

I also said I still.play but don't need the money anymore because I gotta job......not everyone's like me or the others who posted.

It's not fair.

These people have to do sometimes 8 hours practice in person at the church plus testing all the gadgets. No value for their time, money and talent.

StJasper:
Why are pastors receiving salaries for their services too?

Even Paul and Peter had a job. But today pastors has surplus they waste it on sinners designers bullshit.

Jeezuzpick:
Hmmmmm......okay.

Lemme agree with you.

It's just that I know how many young men I and my wife (who's a song leader) encounter who are good musicians, yet unemployed and struggling with poverty while the Church insists they play for free.

Sometimes my wife has to give them something out of her pocket so that they can transport themselves to a programme.

I also said I still.play but don't need the money anymore because I gotta job......not everyone's like me or the others who posted.

I hear you. This is where the difference is between a true church ... and a business church. For them to be paid a salary.... I don't agree but ... in their situation the church should give them financial assistance to make it possible for them to help carry on the ministry and to sustain themselves. Isn't this the purpose of tithes and offerings?... to help those to carry out the ministry and help sustain the needy? I really don't think your wife should've been that ..... of her own free will ... if she feels like ... fine ... but that should be like tipping them.

100% yes Nehemiah 13:10

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

My brother, they won't understand, really! My service in the house of God is what has been sustaining me in life. This year will make it 9 years after graduation, no job, but I took my service of playing piano in church as a job, doing it with every diligence and sense of duty and, honestly, God has never stopped amazing me with provisions. It pays to serve God out love, because He promised in His Word not to forget any labour of love.

Sometimes, I wonder how I am able to survive in this harsh economy without a job or any source of income, when people who have jobs and businesses are complaining....it can only be God.

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

In the UK and foreign minister mission, some Nigeria mega churches pay pastors better salary and even choir including Instrumentalists.
But back home, pastors in the same church receive poor salaries. They can't even afford their children to attend commission schools.
This applies to many Nigeria churches.
Missionaries established free schools but Bishops and Apostles can't do the same here except for a very few.
It has made me to conclude that there will be more white people in heaven than blacks.

Church instrumentalists shouldn't be paid salaries as they aren't full-time ministry called.

However, they should be given stipends for transportation and compensation.

For mushroom churches, instrumentalists can do it without pay but for those churches where the pastors give their wives millions of naira as birthday gift, handing stipends to church workers should not even be debatable. I've seen churches where the overseers are living large while the workers and some members are in utter penury. I'm sure they will say those are people of little faith

Offpoint1:
Yes, if pastors are getting paid why do y'all want instrumentalist to play for free?
. After all the purpose of tithes and offerings is be used in running the church. (Giving to God is the psychological way to manipulate the people to give. We all know logically, you can't literally give God nothing)


Church business is the most lucrative business, everything is expected to be done for free while millions are being made monthly.


I stopped going to church because no one can convince me church isn't business center.

When these men talked about expanding kingdom, it has nothing to do with souls. It's all about building more church branches for profitability. It's all about numbers, whether they are save or not.

The local churches are tasked with weekly budgets they'll deliver to the headquarters, pastors that don't meet up their financial targets for long are mostly transfered to village branches or lower churches as form of punishment.

Most of these pastors had to result into holding on ending weekly services and organizing crusades, invite sweet talkers fellow pastors, just to meet up these targets.


I've seen a lot of things and I doubt I'll ever go to church again.

These men don't give a shit about your salvation[i].
You see those wretched looking pastors? They're mostky the true pastors who refused to compromised.

When I was in school I was going to a certain branch of RCCG ,this pastor is the best human being that I have ever seen,and that's comparing him to my mum who is very kind o.
But this pastor is not generating the requirements from the church because he prefers to feed students with all he has than to force them to pay tithe and offering.
The church hated him for this.
He has been transferred from branch to branch for this.
His pay has been cut and all this coming from Lagos but he doesn't even care.
Church is a business, anybody that tell you otherwise is deceiving you.