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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by drlaykay(m): 5:30pm On Feb 03
Ykc2:
until people like you organise one protest like you guys did when Jonathan was the president,people wishing nigeria to fail if wishing is working by now USA won't will be a country again because no other country likes their arrogance, blacks In America don't like America because of their past does that stop America from progressing? Make the country working stop giving excuses of people praying for it to fail
They don't like the treatment they got not that they pray the country fails.
And I have not told you that Nigeria is failing because of people's negative prayer. I'm only stating that it's an obvious evil and unpatriotic behavior.
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by nedekid: 5:31pm On Feb 03
delpee:
I wish we could all decide to drastically reduce our taste for foreign goods.

Imported drinks, designer wear, luxurious cars, furniture, cosmetics, even toothpicks all require loads of forex. The truth is that if we concentrate our focus on patronising local producers more, they'll improve over time and we'll save more forex. Reno Omokri may sometimes sound like town crier, but he said as much. When given a deep thought, it's obvious that he's right.
If goverment and politicians do not do what you suggest, is it then the average struggling Nigerian that should do so? Abi is the average Nigerian able to afford to send his kids to school in Canada, us, UK at huge demand on forex? Is it the ordinary Nigerian that warehoused billions during the last elections but could not use it due to Emefieles new naira notes, and now change the cash to forex there by depleting all the dollars?
Is it the average Nigerian that imported 450 Toyota suvs at $150k each?
Is it the ordinary Nigerian drinking "40year old" imported whiskey?
Tell the people in goverment living large lifestyles to rather reduce their taste for foreign goods. Has oga at the top not gone to France on personal visit on which he will blow forex, is is son not presently in UK and France (davidos concert) on private jet levels also blowing dollars, euros and pounds?
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by swaggerjack: 5:33pm On Feb 03
seborrhic:
The Nation newspaper trying very hard,but very laughable to use propaganda to shore up the tarnished image of Emilokan.
What will EFCC do to shore u the naira when crooks like Akpabio are walking not just free but with enhanced powers in Nigeria.
The bitter truth is that so long that Nigeria is ruled by corrupt people,no amount of meetings can effectively curtail the doom we face.

Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Perewenkle1: 5:41pm On Feb 03
Nigeria with paper and classroom policies that doesn’t work. I have said this before, the way to strengthen the Naira are, note that we are import oriented country.
1. Only banks to do exchange and sell.
2. BDC to only operates at the airport and at the end of the day turn all exchanges to the central bank with printed documents to show what they did.
3. All illegal foreign exchange transactions are punishable to some years in prison.
4. Reduce wasteful importation, give permits to only necessary importation, ban all foreign car importation for ten years to strengthen the local industries.
5. Encourage and support local manufacturing, storage of perishable goods and export.
6. Never, never allow anyone to seize peoples foreign account money as it’s rumored, most of those money are wire transfers from Nigerians overseas and not stolen, encourage them to do their exchanges at the bank with same black market exchanges until you stop all BDC exchanges other than banks.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Cmeo(m): 5:45pm On Feb 03
I am beginning to feel that the Naira fall could be part of government plan to discourage import, encourage export and make more Naira income. Why would cbn raise the import duty dollar rate from 700+ to 900+ in November 2023 and then again to 1300+ in January 2024 if not that it is a deliberate thing.

Now, is when our economy will know the real foreign investors who is genuinely interested in developing and being part of Nigeria market because any company opening in Nigeria at this time know that the company won't be able to repatriate it's capital back now until Nigeria's foreign exchange earnings improves in the future.
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by DMerciful(m): 5:46pm On Feb 03
This is what Obi would have done but as for Tinubu, you cannot give what you don't have
festacman:
Managing the economy is more than fiscal and monetary manipulations. The key thing is productive economic activities.

- President Tinubu, please come back home sir. Nigeria needs a new economic foundation.
- Convoke a something like 'National Economic Conference' to develop a nationwide roadmap that will tap the economic potentials of geopolitical zones
- Set up a versatile economic think-tank and keep an open mind to their ideas. Look beyond Wale Edun and work with some crazy young minds to create out-of-box ideas for policies and programs.
- Develop short and long-term Economic and Development Plans and actively Implement it.
- Be positively strong-willed and don't sacrifice crucial things that MUST be done today for tomorrow's 2nd term. Nigerians will always appreciate positive results.
- Stimulate production in different aspects of the economy through incentives, make vital reforms of laws and processes, enthrone intentional concessions, etc.
- Move focus and relocate effort from attracting FDIs to encourage local industries, SMEs and entrepreneurs.
- Create more employments, boost local food production develop creative export drive strategies to earn forex.
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by DMerciful(m): 5:48pm On Feb 03
These Lagos boys think Nigeria is Lagos!

This will show Nigerians that Lagos has been successful even since 1914 and that's why it was chosen as capital but clowns said they built Lagos
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by seguno2: 5:50pm On Feb 03
casualobserver:

With due respect, think before you comment. 1. Who are the people with Dom accounts?
2: disporans do not send dollars to Nigeria to remain dollars. There is a Naira purpose for every dollar sent home.

The dollars you see in dom accounts are the elite buying dollars they do not need.

The $30b sitting in dom accounts are owned by no more than 1m people, 98% of which are well off. They don’t keep the money in dom accounts to do business but to preserve their wealth.

And the banks are not doing anything with the dollars in the dom accounts

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by goldmatrix(m): 6:00pm On Feb 03
The quantity of Dollars in Nigeria is enough to bring down the pressure on naira.. But believe me from tinubu to his deputy to all his aids, Each Governor, minister, house members, directors senior civil servants, LG chairmen, councillors etc has a bunker where they are storing dollars.
Absolutely nothing anyone can do to rescue naira from these criminals EXCEPT raid their homes and apartments.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by casualobserver: 6:02pm On Feb 03
seguno2:


And the banks are not doing anything with the dollars in the dom accounts

Why is the Naira falling? Because there is speculative purchase of dollars. Why is there speculative purchase? because people feel it wil continue to go lower and so it feeds on itself.

There is forex in the system, the problem is people are buying dollars not to purchase anything but to preserve their wealth, this is because we have dom accounts, so you can buy dollars and do nothing with it. Meanwhile those who have legitimate need for dollars are competeting with those who just want to buy dollars to put in their dom accounts.

The frenzy has started, Naira can easily hit N4000:$1. The only way to stop the slide is to ban dom accounts at which point the only people buying dollars will be those who have legitimate businesses and those willing to store in cash.

Mark it down that I said it here, the only solution and the only point at which the decline will stop is when dom accounts are banned.

Our yearly import bills are less than the yearly forex inflows (official and unofficial) so clearly this decline in Naira is speculation and hoarding.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Great2017: 6:03pm On Feb 03
A serious country would take advantage of its diversity because of the broader problem solving perspective that comes with a diverse team. Does it mean other ethnic groups in Nigeria cannot occupy any of these sensitive positions?
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Queseda: 6:17pm On Feb 03
casualobserver:


Why is the Naira falling? Because there is speculative purchase of dollars. Why is there speculative purchase? because people feel it wil continue to go lower and so it feeds on itself.

There is forex in the system, the problem is people are buying dollars not to purchase anything but to preserve their wealth, this is because we have dom accounts, so you can buy dollars and do nothing with it. Meanwhile those who have legitimate need for dollars are competeting with those who just want to buy dollars to put in their dom accounts.

The frenzy has started, Naira can easily hit N4000:$1. The only way to stop the slide is to ban dom accounts at which point the only people buying dollars will be those who have legitimate businesses and those willing to store in cash.

Mark it down that I said it here, the only solution and the only point at which the decline will stop is when dom accounts are banned.

Our yearly import bills are less than the yearly forex inflows (official and unofficial) so clearly this decline in Naira is speculation and hoarding.
What about those trading the naira against the dollar on crypto platforms like binance? I think they're the main culprit because their rate determines the black market rate
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by casualobserver: 6:27pm On Feb 03
Queseda:

What about those trading the naira against the dollar on crypto platforms like binance? I think they're the main culprit because their rate determines the black market rate

I do not like to comment on things I know nothing about. I am no expert on Crypto, binance and all that…..however I wouldn’t worry about them because they are temporary people…when they buy, they must sell to crystallize their profit so the net effect is negligible unlike the dom account holder who buys dollars and keeps his money permanently in dollars. The trader creates demand when he buys and then creates a supply when he sells but the dom account holder is a hoarder, he creates demand but never sells….I may be wrong.

If I were to guess I would say they are trading based on the hoarding patterns of the dom account holders.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Beautifulday: 6:29pm On Feb 03
PressMyButton:
Brainstorming to block the loopholes that agents of corruption and retrogression use to shortchange the system. In a country where banks were holding up $50billion in excesses for speculative purposes. A country with large deposits of Uranium yet the citizens take dollars to import phone and car batteries from the Chinese who come here to mine away our uranium. In a country where we have leather in abundance yet the people import shoes, a country blessed with textile but her people waste dollars importing fake fabrics. A country with crude at its backyard yet import fuel with subsidy. So much importation of junks and fake products with scarce resources while the local industries are left to rot. A country on self destruct peopled by the most greedy of human species.

Three Yoruba men catching cruise is what una call brain storming.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Yampotatocarrot(m): 6:51pm On Feb 03
delpee:
I wish we could all decide to drastically reduce our taste for foreign goods.

Imported drinks, designer wear, luxurious cars, furniture, cosmetics, even toothpicks all require loads of forex. The truth is that if we concentrate our focus on patronising local producers more, they'll improve over time and we'll save more forex. Reno Omokri may sometimes sound like town crier, but he said as much. When given a deep thought, it's obvious that he's right.

The thing is, even if we patronise local producers, they'll still have to source things abroad

For example, I have a guy that does shoes and sandals for me, but the price has increased, because the cost of leather (which is imported) has gone up

Local rice is increasing in price because they have to source for paddy from abroad (there was a news about this on Nairaland)

Truth is, there ain't many production industries in Nigeria again... What exactly are we producing that can alternate for the things we're importing (not even toothpick)
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Ykc2(m): 6:54pm On Feb 03
drlaykay:

They don't like the treatment they got not that they pray the country fails.
And I have not told you that Nigeria is failing because of people's negative prayer. I'm only stating that it's an obvious evil and unpatriotic behavior.
is it the regions their people destroyed nigeria through bad governance for 63 years are the ones praying for nigeria to fail or the region that tested power for only 6 months out of Nigeria 63 year of independence are ones praying for nigeria to fail?
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Celestialsword: 7:22pm On Feb 03
Balkan:

There is a common misconception among people that only the Igbos are involved in importing goods into the country. This misconception might be fueling targeted policies that are intended to discourage or regulate the importation of goods into the country by Igbos.

However, it is important to note that such policies may have unintended consequences, such as creating more billionaires of Igbo extraction who have the resources and expertise to navigate the complexities of the importation business. Ultimately, it is important to have policies that are fair and equitable to all citizens, regardless of their ethnic or regional affiliations.
As they are discouraging import by raising the bar have they made provisions or alternatives.

All these fire brigade approaches will further worsen and bring economic activities to a halt.
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by NGArmyTerrorist: 7:22pm On Feb 03
A mere manipulation!
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Celestialsword: 7:33pm On Feb 03
casualobserver:


Why is the Naira falling? Because there is speculative purchase of dollars. Why is there speculative purchase? because people feel it wil continue to go lower and so it feeds on itself.

There is forex in the system, the problem is people are buying dollars not to purchase anything but to preserve their wealth, this is because we have dom accounts, so you can buy dollars and do nothing with it. Meanwhile those who have legitimate need for dollars are competeting with those who just want to buy dollars to put in their dom accounts.

The frenzy has started, Naira can easily hit N4000:$1. The only way to stop the slide is to ban dom accounts at which point the only people buying dollars will be those who have legitimate businesses and those willing to store in cash.

Mark it down that I said it here, the only solution and the only point at which the decline will stop is when dom accounts are banned.

Our yearly import bills are less than the yearly forex inflows (official and unofficial) so clearly this decline in Naira is speculation and hoarding.
dollars stored in rooms at home by nigeria politicians is far more than those in Dom accounts.

It's no longer news that politicians no longer take their loot abroad,they are stored in different foreign currencies expecially the dollars in their mansions and country homes

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Queseda: 7:35pm On Feb 03
casualobserver:


I do not like to comment on things I know nothing about. I am no expert on Crypto, binance and all that…..however I wouldn’t worry about them because they are temporary people…when they buy, they must sell to crystallize their profit so the net effect is negligible unlike the dom account holder who buys dollars and keeps his money permanently in dollars. The trader creates demand when he buys and then creates a supply when he sells but the dom account holder is a hoarder, he creates demand but never sells….I may be wrong.

If I were to guess I would say they are trading based on the hoarding patterns of the dom account holders.
Most of them are exactly like Dom account holders, some have been buying on the platform since it was below N1000/$ and they can now sell with over 50% profit now that it's close to 1500/$. I really can't tell how much of effect it has on the black market but it definitely has some effect
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by casualobserver: 7:36pm On Feb 03
Celestialsword:
dollars stored in rooms at home by nigeria politicians is far more than those in Dom accounts.

It's no longer news that politicians no longer take their loot abroad,they are stored in different foreign currencies expecially the dollars

Oga please talk with some sense. Don accounts contain $30b

Oga nobody stores that amount of dollars at home.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by casualobserver: 7:49pm On Feb 03
Queseda:

Most of them are exactly like Dom account holders, some have been buying on the platform since it was below N1000/$ and they can now sell with over 50% profit now that it's close to 1500/$. I really can't tell how much of effect it has on the black market but it definitely has some effect

There may be traders with don accounts but the true dom account holder is someone who has realized as far back as 2015-2019 that investing in property or stocks in Nigeria contrary to popular belief is a destroyer of wealth. Whereas Naira value may go up if you convert to dollars you likely lost money. So many professionals have resorted to investing abroad or keeping their money in dollar dom accounts. When they earn in Naira and convert to dollars, the money remains in dollars. Most of these people earn enough in Naira not to need to convert any of their dollars to Naira.

The currency trader on the other hand buys and sells so he creates demand and supply of dollars. But I believe they are simply following the direction dictated by the dom holders. So long as the dom holders are holding and not selling, Naira will continue falling. Again I am no expert.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Celestialsword: 7:51pm On Feb 03
casualobserver:


Oga please talk with some sense. Don accounts contain $30b

Oga nobody stores that amount of dollars at home.
Mr sensible if
there's $30b in Dom accounts,I can confidently tell you that there is more dollars outside the banking system.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by PROUDIGBO(m): 8:00pm On Feb 03
grin Meanwhile……..
Hhansome:
This administration will favor me and my family.

Hhansome is on an entirely different planet from the rest of us! shocked

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Growing(m): 8:15pm On Feb 03
God help us
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by two12s: 8:18pm On Feb 03
casualobserver:


There may be traders with don accounts but the true dom account holder is someone who has realized as far back as 2015-2019 that investing in property or stocks in Nigeria contrary to popular belief is a destroyer of wealth. Whereas Naira value may go up if you convert to dollars you likely lost money. So many professionals have resorted to investing abroad or keeping their money in dollar dom accounts. When they earn in Naira and convert to dollars, the money remains in dollars. Most of these people earn enough in Naira not to need to convert any of their dollars to Naira.

The currency trader on the other hand buys and sells so he creates demand and supply of dollars. But I believe they are simply following the direction dictated by the dom holders. So long as the dom holders are holding and not selling, Naira will continue falling. Again I am no expert.

Of course you are an expert, yes an expert in typing utter rubbish from your arse !!

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Solababa91(m): 8:35pm On Feb 03
Nigeria Government no sabi anything called proactive measures, must things degenerate before actions are taken? I just weak.

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by seguno2: 9:02pm On Feb 03
casualobserver:
Why is the Naira falling? Because there is speculative purchase of dollars. Why is there speculative purchase? because people feel it wil continue to go lower and so it feeds on itself.

There is forex in the system, the problem is people are buying dollars not to purchase anything but to preserve their wealth, this is because we have dom accounts, so you can buy dollars and do nothing with it. Meanwhile those who have legitimate need for dollars are competeting with those who just want to buy dollars to put in their dom accounts.

The frenzy has started, Naira can easily hit N4000:$1. The only way to stop the slide is to ban dom accounts at which point the only people buying dollars will be those who have legitimate businesses and those willing to store in cash.

Mark it down that I said it here, the only solution and the only point at which the decline will stop is when dom accounts are banned.

Our yearly import bills are less than the yearly forex inflows (official and unofficial) so clearly this decline in Naira is speculation and hoarding.

If dom accounts are banned but people buy dollars to keep in cash, then how is the speculation part of the problem solved

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by seguno2: 9:03pm On Feb 03
Solababa91:
Nigeria Government no sabi anything called protective measures, must things degenerate before actions are taken? I just weak.

Are your own senator and representative part of this Nigerian government

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Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Charly68: 9:04pm On Feb 03
These men are on hot seats oo
Re: Edun, Cardoso, Olukoyede In Fresh Bid To Rescue Naira by Artscollection: 9:11pm On Feb 03
Balkan:

There is a common misconception among people that only the Igbos are involved in importing goods into the country. This misconception might be fueling targeted policies that are intended to discourage or regulate the importation of goods into the country by Igbos.

However, it is important to note that such policies may have unintended consequences, such as creating more billionaires of Igbo extraction who have the resources and expertise to navigate the complexities of the importation business. Ultimately, it is important to have policies that are fair and equitable to all citizens, regardless of their ethnic or regional affiliations.

See these guy is creating more billionaires, funny thing is that most have diverse into production also then support with little imported substitute. I know one or 2 that are casting out n eating up the Shrimps.

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