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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:08pm On Feb 05
Ppogbae:
Having the most semi finals appearances isn't something that I'm proud of especially considering all those appearances have only converted to 3 trophies.

We must win this tournament at all costs. My short term wish is that we catch up to Cameroon in this decade.

because the other countries just came as tourists to the competition, na wa for una, apart from Cameroon, Egypt, and Ghana which other country has won the Afcon more than us?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 1:09pm On Feb 05
Goke7:


Moffi is not bigger than Nigeria, if he's angry or tired he can leave the team. He was not in consideration in the first place. Stop forming you love him than his parents

Yes, I love him more than his parents. Oya knack your head for wall

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 1:11pm On Feb 05
BankyGee:
Nigeria 🇳🇬 has moved from 34th to 32nd on the FIFA Rankings after beating Angola 🇦🇴. If we beat South Africa 🇿🇦 next tomorrow, we'll move up to 25th and if we win the finals, we'll enter Top 20 sharp ✅ probably 18th or 19th.

Let's go boys 🔥🔥🔥
Top 20¿¿😯

Are you sure about this?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:11pm On Feb 05
Blueelf:


Yes, I love him more than his parents. Oya knack your head for wall


and who cares? Moffi ain't better than Oshimen, Paseiro send me to tell you so, oya abuse him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 1:13pm On Feb 05
Goke7:


because the other countries just came as tourists to the competition, na wa for una, apart from Cameroon, Egypt, and Ghana which other country has won the Afcon more than us?
By Sunday, e suppose be only Cameroon and Egypt, God willing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 1:14pm On Feb 05
Goke7:


because the other countries just came as tourists to the competition, na wa for una, apart from Cameroon, Egypt, and Ghana which other country has won the Afcon more than us?
So because of that we should not aim higher abi?

Is it a bad thing if we catch up with them?😕
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:15pm On Feb 05
Unlimited22:

By Sunday, e suppose be only Cameroon and Egypt, God willing.

That's our hope and desire but nobody should say the number of our semi-final appearances is a disgrace with only 3 trophies, will the other countries be looking at you and not fight for the same trophy?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:16pm On Feb 05
MetalJigsaw:
So because of that we should not aim higher abi?

I have answered this in my comment above
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 1:16pm On Feb 05
Blueelf:


Okocha role was not primarily to score goals but to open up defences.

Also, okocha was a set-piece specialist.

You can't claim to be a world class striker and be bad at basic things like positioning, first touch and finishing

You think Mourinho would've continuously started Osimhen if he were the coach despite liking him?

How many defense okocha open up for 2002? How many set pieces okocha score for 2002 Afcon?..
no b so so 1-0,and 0-0 we dey play sotay we branch go 3rd place.
How many set piece he score for 2006?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 1:19pm On Feb 05
Blueelf:


He has been given multiple chances. Give the other attackers a chance

It is unfair to keep Moffi (a starter in ligue 1) on the bench. Why call him up if you're not going to play him

You don't suddenly become a better player at the AFCON. Osimhen is technically poor and he won't change overnight

HIs wastage of chances will hunt the SE against SA. I can bet you.

5 naira post!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:21pm On Feb 05
That's why it's paining you he won the scudetto, won capocannoniere and AFOTY grin grin grin

Thank God you've come out with your full chest to say what you think you've coding within your numerous shalaye.

You better be careful not to turn your eyes to a desert with all the salty tears you're shedding up and down.

Lol who cares about your validation abeg no go choke on your beef.

Even if in the unlikely event that Osimhen doesn't score a single goal for the rest of his career we go still rate am with or without yeye validation if you like cry enough tears to recharge lake Chad.

Blueelf:
Osimhen is not as good a striker as he is touted to be. He is overrated

Anybody that doesn't like this statement should hug the nearest transformer grin grin grin

He has been figured out and in the Serie A, the same thing would happen. If they could do it in AFCON, then serie A defenders are just waiting for him

He should be benched. Yes, I said it and I own it with my full chest

Simple!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 1:35pm On Feb 05
minfelix:

How many defense okocha open up for 2002? How many set pieces okocha score for 2002 Afcon?..
no b so so 1-0,and 0-0 we dey play sotay we branch go 3rd place.
How many set piece he score for 2006?

dem get eye? shebi we still dey argue why okocha no win APOTY till today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 1:51pm On Feb 05
Goke7:


dem get eye? shebi we still dey argue why okocha no win APOTY till today

person wey dey fast and pray hard make we lose so that he go lie down in green pastures
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by opes: 1:54pm On Feb 05
Super Eagles still the highest ranked among the four semi finalist.

GROUP STAGE POINTS

Nigeria 7pts
South Africa 4pts
Ivory coast 3 points
Congo 3 points.

Nigeria remains the only team among the four that won round of 16 or/and quarter final matches in regulation time. The cup is ours..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 2:06pm On Feb 05
A lot of folks have forgotten that Afcon just became a 24-nation tournament not long ago. The last time we won it in 2013 it was a 16-nation- tournament and there was no second-round knock-out stage. Anybody diminishing the semi-final achievement of the Eagles should have his head examined. This also raises Paseiro's profile whether you like him or not. In fact, I watched a Sunday Oliseh interview yesterday where he mentioned that the South African coach should not be taken for granted. Any coach that has gotten to the semi-final of this very rugged Afcon is a national hero especially that younger CIV coach. I throw away salute for all the coaches in the semi-final.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 2:09pm On Feb 05
All this"bench Osimhen, bench Osimhen".

You sure say no be front page I dey so?

In a tournament, you don't change a winning team, strategy and formation.

Osimhen is very important to the way we play.None of Moffi or Iheanacho can give us 60% of what Osimhen does.

Our current tactics requires a Striker with electric pace, with high work rate and energy to burn, who will always keep defenders on their toes making them defensive conscious.

If I may ask, how many goals has Moffi scored this season? He is even operating from the right(RW) of late for OGC Nice.

Iheanacho couldn't score or assist against Tunisia in the round of 16 of the last edition.

Every Central defender who has been facing us has always prepared for Osimhen.

Osimhen torments them non-stop for 80 good minutes, with his aggression,rage,pace,off the ball and on the ball movement and his shots on target.

He scored against EQG,won the PK against CIV,his off the ball movement in anticipation of a cross forced a GNB defender into scoring an owngoal.He assisted Lookman for the first goal against Cameroon.

Remove Osimhen from this team and see our opponents attack in numbers because their biggest threat is gone.

It's not Lookman who is our biggest threat upfront, but Osimhen.Even our opponent Coach Hugo Broos, will consider Peseiro a very big fool if he drops Osimhen.

You want him to drop Osimhen,so Onuachu can start baaa? Nawa for una.

Please let no one change this team,I love their selflessness so far.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 2:32pm On Feb 05
Blueelf:


Okocha role was not primarily to score goals but to open up defences.

Also, okocha was a set-piece specialist.

You can't claim to be a world class striker and be bad at basic things like positioning, first touch and finishing

You think Mourinho would've continuously started Osimhen if he were the coach despite liking him?

Someone who has been wishing the Super Eagles bad since the start of the tournament suddenly wants us to do well
Only fools will take this one serious undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 2:41pm On Feb 05
Odunayaw:
"We are yet to come back from behind apart from the Equatorial Guinea match"

Then proceeds to forget no one has scored against us since then

grin Wetin una want for here sef

Apparently you missed my context. but here it is. Remember that before now once a team scores first against Naija, its distress football from then on. We have soldiered on for 5 games at least and thus far we can say we been good. But this isnt group stage anymore where you have a chance at redemption. I will cite 2 instances where chasing odd goal was not easy to come back from. Naija vs Tunisia in the last afcon. 2nd one is Naija vs ghana in Abuja. We saw how difficult it was for us to put in the 2nd goal. Stakes are higher now in that you get eliminated if you dont take your chances. We know no one has scored against us since, not because they havent tried to score. Complacency is all it takes and boom, the midget floors the giant. Thats when almost stories will start .... if we had, if we had.

No one has scored us yet shouldnt be a yardstick to measure how we are doing. For one, we have improved from being docile to being fighters. We cant have hurriedly forgotten how we lost.... sorry I mean drew 2 World Cup qualifier games. Thank God for injuries to certain individuals, do we think Peseiro would have changed his tactics? He found his team because situation necessitated it.


Thats the point I am raising. Please seek to understand not reply

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 2:49pm On Feb 05
Amedino99:
why should we be afraid? Based on our head to head, our quality of players and performance in this tournament and even the last afcon match we played against south africa, they should be the ones afraid. South Africa can't beat us. You are not part of the squad so you saying they can't beat us is not condescending, it's your duty as a fan. if south Africans can confidently say they will beat us, there is nothing stopping us from saying such. Don't worry We are lifting that trophy.

Yes ... true on paper, we have the quality. We had quality too when they handed us a 2 nil defeat in Uyo. Frankly, even their pundits dont know how they are gonna approach our game cos they are like should they attack? or should they sit back and soak up the pressure. Would naija be comfortable with having possession? Those are the risks they are exposed to. but as I explained to another moniker, all it takes is overconfidence and complacency based on say na southie we dey play.

True, they dont have the talents like we have but they can play as a team. that my friend, you can take to the bank!

Over all, I see us beating them handsomely... at least on paper...4-0

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mrwilliams9: 2:50pm On Feb 05
Ppogbae:
Having the most semi finals appearances isn't something that I'm proud of especially considering all those appearances have only converted to 3 trophies.

We must win this tournament at all costs. My short term wish is that we catch up to Cameroon in this decade.

Same thing I said. 16 SFs for 7 finals and only 3 titles is massive underperformance.

There should be 1 title for every three SFs imo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 2:53pm On Feb 05
safarigirl:
Ah yes!

The Amapiano Derby is here!

Rather SA than those Cape Verde boys.

Finally! An English speaking opponent.

You mean Zulu speaking opponent
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bannedlargedx2: 2:55pm On Feb 05
The problem here is people and their sentimental biased. For example, Zaidu primary responsibility is his defensive duties and thus far, he has been solid defensively while horrible offensively and people are suggesting that, he should be replaced. Similarly, starboy primary responsibility is to score goals and while he hasn’t scored enough goals, he has provided work ethic, hustle, never say die attitude and critics has been kind. As for me, I wouldn’t drop starboy but would start replacing him earlier if he doesn’t start scoring. You cannot have potent finishers like Iheanacho, moffi on the bench without giving them a chance if your main striker isn’t scoring. In our analysis, let all of be partial

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 2:56pm On Feb 05
kennysville:


Apparently you missed my context. but here it is. Remember that before now once a team scores first against Naija, its distress football from then on. We have soldiered on for 5 games at least and thus far we can say we been good. But this isnt group stage anymore where you have a chance at redemption. I will cite 2 instances where chasing odd goal was not easy to come back from. Naija vs Tunisia in the last afcon. 2nd one is Naija vs ghana in Abuja. We saw how difficult it was for us to put in the 2nd goal. Stakes are higher now in that you get eliminated if you dont take your chances. We know no one has scored against us since, not because they havent tried to score. Complacency is all it takes and boom, the midget floors the giant. Thats when almost stories will start .... if we had, if we had.

No one has scored us yet shouldnt be a yardstick to measure how we are doing. For one, we have improved from being docile to being fighters. We cant have hurriedly forgotten how we lost.... sorry I mean drew 2 World Cup qualifier games. Thank God for injuries to certain individuals, do we think Peseiro would have changed his tactics? He found his team because situation necessitated it.


Thats the point I am raising. Please seek to understand not reply

we are with a different coach now compared to the coaches we had in the examples you used. your assertion that we won't be able to mount a comeback in this tournament despite us already having a comeback in this tournament means it's not true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:26pm On Feb 05
Very objective take.

The SE is doing well but it’s okay to still point out our lapses. We need to improve in our conversion rate. May hunt us at some point.


kennysville:


Apparently you missed my context. but here it is. Remember that before now once a team scores first against Naija, its distress football from then on. We have soldiered on for 5 games at least and thus far we can say we been good. But this isnt group stage anymore where you have a chance at redemption. I will cite 2 instances where chasing odd goal was not easy to come back from. Naija vs Tunisia in the last afcon. 2nd one is Naija vs ghana in Abuja. We saw how difficult it was for us to put in the 2nd goal. Stakes are higher now in that you get eliminated if you dont take your chances. We know no one has scored against us since, not because they havent tried to score. Complacency is all it takes and boom, the midget floors the giant. Thats when almost stories will start .... if we had, if we had.

No one has scored us yet shouldnt be a yardstick to measure how we are doing. For one, we have improved from being docile to being fighters. We cant have hurriedly forgotten how we lost.... sorry I mean drew 2 World Cup qualifier games. Thank God for injuries to certain individuals, do we think Peseiro would have changed his tactics? He found his team because situation necessitated it.


Thats the point I am raising. Please seek to understand not reply

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:35pm On Feb 05
I saw this argument on Facebook and it was full of tribal sentiments. I’ve clearly criticized Osimhen and Zaidu in this thread. When defenders have the opportunity to score they should score even if that’s not their primary role. Likewise a striker in an opportunity to defend should defend for the team. Osimhen has done everything for this team but miss more chances. Likewsise Zaidu who has played as a wing back has failed in his secondary duty most times.

The team is set up to be very defensive. Every starter in that team has a defensive side. While we praise the defenders a lot we fail to realize the upfront (midfielders and forwards) players still play big role in reducing the pressure on the defenders.

I think what is left of this team is also know how to attack as a unit. They defend very well as a unit. If they can figure that out, and Zaidu, Bassey, Ekong etc scores, nobody will complain that Osimhen is not scoring. Really the goals should come from anywhere.


Bannedlargedx2:
The problem here is people and their sentimental biased. For example, Zaidu primary responsibility is his defensive duties and thus far, he has been solid defensively while horrible offensively and people are suggesting that, he should be replaced. Similarly, starboy primary responsibility is to score goals and while he hasn’t scored enough goals, he has provided work ethic, hustle, never say die attitude and critics has been kind. As for me, I wouldn’t drop starboy but would start replacing him earlier if he doesn’t start scoring. You cannot have potent finishers like Iheanacho, moffi on the bench without giving them a chance if your main striker isn’t scoring. In our analysis, let all of be partial

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 3:35pm On Feb 05
Bannedlargedx2:
The problem here is people and their sentimental biased. For example, Zaidu primary responsibility is his defensive duties and thus far, he has been solid defensively while horrible offensively and people are suggesting that, he should be replaced. Similarly, starboy primary responsibility is to score goals and while he hasn’t scored enough goals, he has provided work ethic, hustle, never say die attitude and critics has been kind. As for me, I wouldn’t drop starboy but would start replacing him earlier if he doesn’t start scoring. You cannot have potent finishers like Iheanacho, moffi on the bench without giving them a chance if your main striker isn’t scoring. In our analysis, let all of be partial
this analysis is fair enough ❤️
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DarkJeddi(m): 3:40pm On Feb 05
Curtisaxel17:


It should be an eye opener as to the capabilities of our striker especially considering the fact that we have had more big chances than any other team.

Osimhen has not performed well in this tourney and the coach should try another striker, preferably Moffi. Simple and short.
The way some of you talk can be very exasperating..
So you want the Super Eagles to drop Osimhen,at this stage of the Tournament and experiment with a Moffi, that has never pulled up trees in the National Team?
Thank God some of this beer parlour talk na here it end ..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:46pm On Feb 05
Talk about WC appearances and achievements. We like to deceive ourselves. We celebrate mediocrity.

mrwilliams9:


Same thing I said. 16 SFs for 7 finals and only 3 titles is massive underperformance.

There should be 1 title for every three SFs imo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 3:49pm On Feb 05
kennysville:


Apparently you missed my context. but here it is. Remember that before now once a team scores first against Naija, its distress football from then on. We have soldiered on for 5 games at least and thus far we can say we been good. But this isnt group stage anymore where you have a chance at redemption. I will cite 2 instances where chasing odd goal was not easy to come back from. Naija vs Tunisia in the last afcon. 2nd one is Naija vs ghana in Abuja. We saw how difficult it was for us to put in the 2nd goal. Stakes are higher now in that you get eliminated if you dont take your chances. We know no one has scored against us since, not because they havent tried to score. Complacency is all it takes and boom, the midget floors the giant. Thats when almost stories will start .... if we had, if we had.

No one has scored us yet shouldnt be a yardstick to measure how we are doing. For one, we have improved from being docile to being fighters. We cant have hurriedly forgotten how we lost.... sorry I mean drew 2 World Cup qualifier games. Thank God for injuries to certain individuals, do we think Peseiro would have changed his tactics? He found his team because situation necessitated it.


Thats the point I am raising. Please seek to understand not reply

We play a 3-4-3, relying on creativity from the wings.

Iwobi who is the most creative player, plays as a DLP.This is the reason, he has barely 3 key passes in this tournament.When asked he said Peseiro changed his role to a defensive one.

It's Osimhen pace on the counter,aggression,off the ball movement in anticipation of a through pass or long ball and shooting that makes him see those chances.

Other strikers on the bench will struggle to see those kind of chances.Osimhen tries his best to get to a long ball before the opponent central defenders.His is better suit for this tactics due to his willingness to get to any ball b4 the opponent.An Onuachu and Iheanacho can't.Moffi will only offer little.

You want other strikers to start complaining of poor creativity from midfield and isolation upfront because they lack Osimhen's skill set.

Our current tactics and strategy is only suited for Osimhen.Other strikers will struggle in this current tactics.

If I may ask, Have you ever pondered why Onuachu has never mustered one shot on target?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:49pm On Feb 05
mrwilliams9:


Same thing I said. 16 SFs for 7 finals and only 3 titles is massive underperformance.

There should be 1 title for every three SFs imo

This is laughable and not a mature point. Nigeria is not the only footballing nation in Africa. If you're indeed the best team in a tournament with the best of quality players your chances are higher with exceptions of biased refereeing and other factors. A semi-final finish especially now in a 24 nation-tournament will always be a big deal. You guys should relax, the NFF that gave Paseiro a semi-final target knows this.

Yes, we are a big soccer-playing nation in Africa but we've never been the best and that's a fact. How many times have we won the CAF Champions League, what's the state of your local league for you to have won Afcon 10 times?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:50pm On Feb 05
Osimhen is an asset to any team whether he scores or not.

But it’s okay to bench him in some situations

Blueelf:
Osimhen is not as good a striker as he is touted to be. He is overrated

Anybody that doesn't like this statement should hug the nearest transformer grin grin grin

He has been figured out and in the Serie A, the same thing would happen. If they could do it in AFCON, then serie A defenders are just waiting for him

He should be benched. Yes, I said it and I own it with my full chest

Simple!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 3:52pm On Feb 05
chrisooblog:
That's why it's paining you he won the scudetto, won capocannoniere and AFOTY grin grin grin

Thank God you've come out with your full chest to say what you think you've coding within your numerous shalaye.

You better be careful not to turn your eyes to a desert with all the salty tears you're shedding up and down.

Lol who cares about your validation abeg no go choke on your beef.

Even if in the unlikely event that Osimhen doesn't score a single goal for the rest of his career we go still rate am with or without yeye validation if you like cry enough tears to recharge lake Chad.


Type all this without crying

Whether you rate him or not, if he continues, he will end up in a mid table team where he would rightly belong

If you like rate him, that won't change how other world class teams see him

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