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Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by seguno2: 7:04am On Feb 08
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NAFDAC: Civil Society Groups hold "let the poor live" protest in Abuja over ban on sachet alcohol, beverages

...calls for immediate sack of DG


Shayo alcoholics protest.

Why have they not protested against the absence of pipe borne water in every building

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Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Nigeriakan: 7:08am On Feb 08
SensualMan:
Wetin Mc Oluomo boys go dey use hold body for early morning?
Agege to Ikeja with sachet in their mouth and their dirty and funny language. They represent their people very well so allow them shayo!

That 'dirty language' is the biggest African language and the most booming African language in Europe and the US. No other Nigerian language comes close.

Comment on people who take ogogoro, you won't. Your hate will soon consume you

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Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by crackhouse(m): 7:16am On Feb 08
Are they normal?
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Zeebuy: 7:16am On Feb 08
shekpe wey man dey use hol body na em these people ban?

dem dey mad?
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Zeebuy: 7:19am On Feb 08
Nigeriakan:


That 'dirty language' is the biggest African language and the most booming African language in Europe and the US. No other Nigerian language comes close.

Comment on people who take ogogoro, you won't. Your hate will soon consume you

Ogogoro na Rivers state people drink. Them no dey use am play.
Anyways, no language is dirty. The guy you quoted is taking out of shayo-induced craze. And Yoruba isn't the biggest African language, I dont't know where you got that one from. Other languages are on the same level too, no dey hype yourself grin
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by tojahh(m): 7:47am On Feb 08
10mobile:
This low-quality behavior of rushing to be the first to comment without reading the news must stop. Or is it that these people lack education to the point that they don't understand what the news actually said?

You see, just because the title mentioned 'alcohol', see the nonsense comments all these first commenters are making without considering what the the protesters said about the implication of the ban on the unemployment levels and hardship in the country.

From what I can see here, the younger generations of Nigerians will even be worse than this current crop of lazy, thieving, old politicians. Should a ban on sachet alcohol or beverages be a priority to a government of a country where 84 million people are losing their employment and and going far below the poverty lines? Is it not a major point these protesters raised? So why are you lots taunting them?

Some of you are even coming to tell us you don't like alcohol. Who cares? It's the same hypocrisy that has killed your forefathers and kept this country this way. Talking as if you're better than the countries where they consume alcohol.











Oga shuut up

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Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by 10mobile: 7:49am On Feb 08
tojahh:


Oga shuut up
You shut down.
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by tojahh(m): 8:06am On Feb 08
10mobile:

You shut down.

Hahahaha.

You no well I swear grin
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Iolo(m): 8:07am On Feb 08
10mobile:
This low-quality behavior of rushing to be the first to comment without reading the news must stop. Or is it that these people lack education to the point that they don't understand what the news actually said?

You see, just because the title mentioned 'alcohol', see the nonsense comments all these first commenters are making without considering what the the protesters said about the implication of the ban on the unemployment levels and hardship in the country.

From what I can see here, the younger generations of Nigerians will even be worse than this current crop of lazy, thieving, old politicians. Should a ban on sachet alcohol or beverages be a priority to a government of a country where 84 million people are losing their employment and and going far below the poverty lines? Is it not a major point these protesters raised? So why are you lots taunting them?

Some of you are even coming to tell us you don't like alcohol. Who cares? It's the same hypocrisy that has killed your forefathers and kept this country this way. Talking as if you're better than the countries where they consume alcohol.











The irony of public discourse in Nigeria is that everyone wants Nigeria to become a "working system" but no one wants to "consequences" of one.

The government has taken a health and safety decision in the interest of millions of Nigerians and we criticise the decision for its impact on employment, hardship and it not being a priority.

Sachet alcohol is a social menace that is incompatible with a "sane" society. It makes alcohol accessible to anyone including minors who shouldn't even be able to buy it in the first place. It gets sold just about anywhere by anyone and for a controlled substance that's not good.

We might criticise of the suddeness of decision as Nigerian governments tend to have a taste for sudden bans which leaves little room for public awareness campaigns, but then when they do give ample time no one takes it seriously.

Another potential area of improvement could be the seeming lack of stakeholder involvement before the ban (of which it's clear to the blind these CSOs are a sponsored bunch), but we have no evidence of that.
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by seguno2: 8:15am On Feb 08
Nigeriakan:
That 'dirty language' is the biggest African language and the most booming African language in Europe and the US. No other Nigerian language comes close.

Comment on people who take ogogoro, you won't. Your hate will soon consume you

Is Yoruba the most booming language in Europe and the US because we sold the most of our people as slaves in exchange for mirrors, alcohol, cigarettes, fabrics, umbrellas etc, and we continue to be the most tribe exporting its people to the oyinbo countries because of our failure to provide basic common services and utilities in the south west?

Even when oyinbos were made to change their minds about slavery due to the advocacy work of William Wilberforce, useless Yorubas like Madam Tinubu continued.

Efunroye Tinubu

The often cited biography titled Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker, authored by Nigerian historian Oladipo Yemitan, paints her views regarding slave trading.

On one occasion, during her final sojourn in Abeokuta, she was alleged to have sold a young boy into slavery and was accused of it. When arraigned before Ogundipe Alatise over the matter, she reportedly explained: 'I have a large house-hold and I must feed them well. I need money to do that, that's why'.

— Oladipo. Yemitan, 'Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker'

Another section of Yemitan's Tinubu biography, referred to as the Amadie-Ojo Affair, captures a slave trading deal gone sour in 1853 (notably after the 1852 Treaty abolishing slavery in Lagos) wherein Tinubu tells another slave trader (Domingo Martinez) that "she would rather drown the slaves [20 in number] than sell them at a discount".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efunroye_Tinubu

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Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by 10mobile: 8:37am On Feb 08
Iolo:


The irony of public discourse in Nigeria is that everyone wants Nigeria to become a "working system" but no one wants to "consequences" of one.

The government has taken a health and safety decision in the interest of millions of Nigerians and we criticise the decision for its impact on employment, hardship and it not being a priority.

Sachet alcohol is a social menace that is incompatible with a "sane" society. It makes alcohol accessible to anyone including minors who shouldn't even be able to buy it in the first place. It gets sold just about anywhere by anyone and for a controlled substance that's not good.

We might criticise of the suddeness of decision as Nigerian governments tend to have a taste for sudden bans which leaves little room for public awareness campaigns, but then when they do give ample time no one takes it seriously.

Another potential area of improvement could be the seeming lack of stakeholder involvement before the ban (of which it's clear to the blind these CSOs are a sponsored bunch), but we have no evidence of that.
That's exactly what they want you to think about the sudden ban. They have done it with out caring about the millions that would lose their jobs and families that would go hungry and here you are defending them. They haven't provided any alternative to these millions of people either. Instead, if you don't have an employment and you try to employ yourself, they will take away the electricity and the fuel that would help you in your business.

Now, let me ask you concerning the sudden unprovided-for ban: Compared with MILLIONS MORE Nigerians losing their sources of livelihood, which one do you honestly think would have more immediate, widespread negative impact on the population? I mean, between the sachet drinks and widespread joblessness being created?
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by a2d3rew(m): 8:51am On Feb 08
Make them ban all alcohol self, which one be let the poor live, if u no drink u go die? Thanks God my grandpa no fit puy the expensive own.
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Iolo(m): 9:06am On Feb 08
10mobile:

That's exactly what they want you to think about the sudden ban. They have done it with out caring about the millions that would lose their jobs and families that would go hungry and here you are defending them. They haven't provided any alternative to these millions of people either. Instead, if you don't have an employment and you try to employ yourself, they will take away the electricity and the fuel that would help you in your business.

Now, let me ask you concerning the sudden unprovided-for ban: Compared with MILLIONS MORE Nigerians losing their sources of livelihood, which one do you honestly think would have more immediate, widespread negative impact on the population? I mean, between the sachet drinks and widespread joblessness being created?

Your argument is one of impact which is a dilemma any government around the world will face with most decisions. For example, you have ppl selling along the railway corridor. To make that safe you will have to render them jobless. Tough decision to make but one that needs to be made in public interest.

To your specific point on job losses. We both don't have data to back this up so it's a bit of a subjective argument. But lets try to go into the details of the sachet alcohol business starting from the manufacturer to the distributors to analyse where the actual job loss will happen.

Kasaprenko and companies like them who produce sachet alcohol do not have that as their only product. Remember they started selling sachet as a market expansion strategy similar to how cowbell and the likes started making sachet milk even though they still sell the standard milk.

These producers have more upscale products on plastic bottles which consumers of these sachets can still buy for slightly more cost. For the manufacturers there will be at best a loss of income vs a total business shut down so job losses will be minimal here.

The traders, retailers and middle men involved in sachet alcohol also never ever sell only sachet alcohol. They sell the plastic bottles as well and many of them sell other products like herbals based on market demand. You will imagine that market forces will take place and these traders will move to products that can sell rather than close shop entirely.

Finally, I'm not saying your argument has no merits at all. Simply pointing out (1) how criticism should be constructive otherwise people in government will continue to look at the masses as people who don't know what they want (2) governmemts have to make tough decisions and that line between economic impact and social good is one that often needs to be balanced with every decision. Any decision you make as a government will inherently be on either side which will piss someone somewhere off.
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Nigeriakan: 9:58am On Feb 08
seguno2:


Is Yoruba the most booming language in Europe and the US because we sold the most of our people as slaves in exchange for mirrors, alcohol, cigarettes, fabrics, umbrellas etc, and we continue to be the most tribe exporting its people to the oyinbo countries because of our failure to provide basic common services and utilities in the south west?

Even when oyinbos were made to change their minds about slavery due to the advocacy work of William Wilberforce, useless Yorubas like Madam Tinubu continued.


Shebí the other tribes with considerable numbers of slaves sold theirs for mansions and other luxuries, àbí?

Yorùbá sold most of her people into slavery? Have you ever considered setting the stats straight? Yorùbá may be the Nigerian tribe with the highest number of Trans-Atlantic slaves, and to be sincere, we must not justify the wicked act of selling people into slavery. However, if you convert the numbers into percentages, would we still have the Yorùbá as the people who sold most of her children into slavery?! What's the estimated Yorùbá population as at then and what's the estimated number of Yorùbá slaves? And do same to the other tribes.

Sure, the SW governments have been a disappointment, and their poor performance is part of the reasons why many Yorùbá citizens migrated (and are still migrating) overseas. But prior to the japa epidemic, the Yorùbá, especially the Òǹdó, Ògùn and Èkìtì, had loved to travel out of the country. Besides, the professionals such as doctors, nurses, and programmers that are in huge demands abroad, which people have majority of those experts? That gives you a clue to why most of the japa guys are Yorùbá. And that's a huge loss to the Yorùbá nation and Nigeria at large.

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Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Righthussle: 10:16am On Feb 08
10mobile:
This low-quality behavior of rushing to be the first to comment without reading the news must stop. Or is it that these people lack education to the point that they don't understand what the news actually said?

You see, just because the title mentioned 'alcohol', see the nonsense comments all these first commenters are making without considering what the the protesters said about the implication of the ban on the unemployment levels and hardship in the country.

From what I can see here, the younger generations of Nigerians will even be worse than this current crop of lazy, thieving, old politicians. Should a ban on sachet alcohol or beverages be a priority to a government of a country where 84 million people are losing their employment and and going far below the poverty lines? Is it not a major point these protesters raised? So why are you lots taunting them?

Some of you are even coming to tell us you don't like alcohol. Who cares? It's the same hypocrisy that has killed your forefathers and kept this country this way. Talking as if you're better than the countries where they consume alcohol.











" No fewer than 100 civil society groups, Wednesday, held what it described as a 'Let The Poor Live' protest in Abuja to challenge the ban on sachet and PET bottles of alcoholic drinks by the National Agency for Foods and Drugs Administration and Control (NAFDAC).

Led by the Coalition Against Economic Saboteurs, the groups also called for the immediate sack of the NAFDAC DG Prof. Moji Adeyeye for her anti-people policies. "


Oga, you go night school ? Didn't you read that they're calling for the immediate sack of the NAFDAC DG Prof. Moji Adeyeye for banning sachet alcoholic drinks ? People like you are the reason we're in this terrible situation in this country. You ought to know that before that action was taken, the DG had weighed the benefits and the dangers of sachet drink and had realized that the dangers outweighed the benefits.

Your sachet alcoholic drinks addicts have ported to smoking cannabis, you better join them if you can't buy the bottle kaikai.
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Ubanz: 11:28am On Feb 08
Useless bunch of people. You wouldn't protest against the skyrocketing food prices.
Which one do the poor need to survive, food or kaikai?
What a misplaced priority.
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Johilo(m): 12:01pm On Feb 08
Edward7b:
They are o. No shame again
watin u LOVE o
No be watin i LOVE o
Watin i LOVE i go do am with all my HEART o

U dey shame when you dey cut ur neighbour cable.. Pretenders are alway the worst
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Proudlyngwa(m): 12:07pm On Feb 08
10mobile:

That's exactly what they want you to think about the sudden ban. They have done it with out caring about the millions that would lose their jobs and families that would go hungry and here you are defending them. They haven't provided any alternative to these millions of people either. Instead, if you don't have an employment and you try to employ yourself, they will take away the electricity and the fuel that would help you in your business.

Now, let me ask you concerning the sudden unprovided-for ban: Compared with MILLIONS MORE Nigerians losing their sources of livelihood, which one do you honestly think would have more immediate, widespread negative impact on the population? I mean, between the sachet drinks and widespread joblessness being created?

Oga the people who loose their job, for killing people with adulterated alchohol deserve to loose their jobs.

So armed robbers should also be allowed to continue their jobs.

That sachet alcohol is grade1 poison, no refined alchohol can be as cheap as that, the annoying thing is the availability of such drinks to minors.

Think of the damage it is causing, government is not run on emotions but reasoning
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Sleekfingers: 1:30pm On Feb 08
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Awon ologogoro osi......


I want to see the enforcement in lagos..
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by Eniolohunda: 4:13pm On Feb 08
Dem no contest the hardship facing the country na ogogoro dem dey contest. Continue
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by ObalendeCMS: 6:01am On Feb 09
That nafdac woman no get "brain".
Re: CSOs Hold "Let The Poor Live" Protest In Abuja Over Ban On Sachet Alcohol by benzzyno(m): 12:31pm On Feb 09
BTW: its funny how Com. KABIR MATAZU is the one leading the protest against the outright ban on the sale of alcohol on sachets. grin grin

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