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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MallamSpicey: 5:40pm On Feb 14
mostob:
Really? Why is he chopping bench in the championship with all these qualities you mention
You dey mind that werey, part of the people who are used to mediocrity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dsimmer: 5:41pm On Feb 14
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:44pm On Feb 14
Seagodess:
our 9 is choked up already..we need wingers And midfielders
Number 9 wey Moffi and Onuachu failed to get enough minutes,any player that will add new thing to eagles should be welcomed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 5:52pm On Feb 14
Dsimmer:


Because several coaches came after he was signed!

It's common sense! These coaches have their own signings and don't know much about him.

He started as a CM in two consecutive games for Southampton which Southampton team won and he even capped it with a goal yet was sat on the bench in the next third match which has always been the case. That is, Play today, bench tomorrow even if he does well hence he's only got little match rhythm with his teammates since he's not played consecutively, not to mention playing him in several different positions when he's at his best as a CM.

You mean with all those qualities, the coaches don't know about him? But the coaches know about others?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:55pm On Feb 14
BascoVanVeli:



Jose needs to explain why he treated the lad like that. He was impressive against Mozambique and the coach acted like it never happened.

One of the reasons why I do not like negative coaches. Good performances don't count. Just the regular players that suit their perspective. That was why the likes of De Bruyne, Salah and David Luiz were not suitable for Mourinho. Because of the defensive setup, they can sacrifice quality.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:01pm On Feb 14
Blueelf:


You guys that always mention Ebenezer, have you actually watched him play? Or are you basing it on the fact that he plays for I twr Milan Youth side?
How many senior team appearances does he have? Even in his youth side, what are his stats like? What are their ratings compared to their age Mates in Italian/world football?
This isn't about optics but actual ability. For me, those guys won't be ready till 3-4 years at this rate.
They can feature for our age grade teams but let them not be put under undue pressure for the senior team
Akinsanmiro and Eletu are ready abi no be ball dem dey play....Stephen Keshi made eagles at 21 and captained the team to Afcon final at 22 years of age...Henry Nwosu at 17....Mikel Obi at 18....Iwobi as academy player...Sunday Oliseh at 19...Amokachie at 17 barely two months in Nigeria league

Oga Blueelf time to throw our midfield open for players who can do it irrespective of age or league....our midfield damn too poor.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dsimmer: 6:12pm On Feb 14
mostob:
You mean with all those qualities, the coaches don't know about him? But the coaches know about others?

I told you the coaches have their signings or can't you read? Or how did you understand him performing brilliantly as a CM in two consecutive matches where he even capped it with a goal yet benched in the third match? Besides, he was almost getting to have consecutive matches just before he was called for afcon which he honoured.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:22pm On Feb 14
Blueelf:


You guys that always mention Ebenezer, have you actually watched him play? Or are you basing it on the fact that he plays for I twr Milan Youth side?
How many senior team appearances does he have? Even in his youth side, what are his stats like? What are their ratings compared to their age Mates in Italian/world football?
This isn't about optics but actual ability. For me, those guys won't be ready till 3-4 years at this rate.
They can feature for our age grade teams but let them not be put under undue pressure for the senior team


No b adingra almost kill our defense …d guy is just a 22year old…I am sure if u were d coach, u wouldn’t av started him cos he’s too young

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 6:35pm On Feb 14
elyte89:



No b adingra almost kill our defense …d guy is just a 22year old…I am sure if u were d coach, u wouldn’t av started him cos he’s too young

You're being emotive grin grin grin

Oga I asked a question and you didn't answer. You're calling Adingra. Did I mention adingra in my question?

That's how you fail Jamb exams

How many of their games have you watched?

What are their stats Like? Comparison to players in their age grade?

How many Senior team appearances even if cameos?

Give me hard facts and not emotive sentiments
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 6:41pm On Feb 14
Kog45:
Akinsanmiro and Eletu are ready abi no be ball dem dey play....Stephen Keshi made eagles at 21 and captained the team to Afcon final as a 22 years old boy.,.Henry Nwosu at 17....Mikel Obi at 18....Iwobi as academy player...Sunday Oliseh at 19...Amokachie at 17 barely two months in Nigeria league

Oga Blueelf time throw our midfield open for players who can do it irrespective of age or league....our midfield damn too poor.

Because of my condition, I cannot call Cow Uncle.

Eletu and Akinsanmiro are not mature enough for the SE. They have potential but are still a long way.

Once Nigerians hear Inter, AC Milan, Barca, etc even if a bench warmer or na U18 or U20, then the person is automatically a good player. How did your CHukwueze perform in AFCON? And he was supposedly a Senior Player.

I will take a Nwakali over these neonates you guys are touting anytime, any day. We need mature men. Any youth player we allow into the Senior Team must be on the condition that he has gotten enough Senior Game time in their clubs. Else, let them play for the Nigerian U20 team abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 6:57pm On Feb 14
Kog45:
Akinsanmiro and Eletu are ready abi no be ball dem dey play....Stephen Keshi made eagles at 21 and captained the team to Afcon final as a 22 years old boy.,.Henry Nwosu at 17....Mikel Obi at 18....Iwobi as academy player...Sunday Oliseh at 19...Amokachie at 17 barely two months in Nigeria league

Oga Blueelf time throw our midfield open for players who can do it irrespective of age or league....our midfield damn too poor.
I think we should wait for them to make senior debuts before we call them up. Added to the fact that they can't run away since they are home kids No need throwing young kids into the fray when they are not ready. Let's exhaust all our options before we start throwing academy kids into big positions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:02pm On Feb 14
MallamSpicey:
As far as midfield goes, these are the players that should form the core and depth of our MF going forward. Enough of the daft habits of recycling the same 3 or 4 midfielders every time who offers us absolutely no creativity.

1. Iwobi- I honestly don't really rate him that highly as I feel he has fallen off but he still offers experience at least. But to be fair to Iwobi, Peseiro played him out of position at the AFCON and nullified his attacking qualities with all the defensive pivot duties he was tasked with...Iwobi IS NOT A DM, and can't thrive in a 2 man midfield system where he has to press ,Iwobi isn't that guy.

2. Ndidi- The impact of Ndidi can't be emphasized enough, he was sorely missed at the AFCON especially with his experience and improved ability to press high thanks to his Leicester form...An Onyeka/Ndidi anchorship would have given Iwobi more freedom to influence his creative duties more.

3. Frank Onyeka- I believe he announced his name in a big way at the AFCON, absolute Trojan workhorse who gives his all for the team and does the dirty work like no other...Ndidi will find joy pairing with him since he loves to bomb forward to join the attack and can trust Frank the Tank to mop up any mistakes behind him.

4. Michael Folrunsho- Needs no introduction, this is one player who will give you work-rate and a good eye for passing abilities, I don't know why NFF haven't approached and capped him yet when he is still in the fringe radar of Italy.

5. Nwakali- somewhat of an enigma as much as a fan's favorite, in the eyes of many he's supposed to be our own Pirlo...I personally think Nwakali would have fit so perfectly like a glove in that 343 formation Peseiro used at the AFCON...especially when you factor in his set piece abilities and good passing IQ (seems like an opportunity missed).

6. Fisayo Dele-Bashiru- This lad should be tried out as that under-study to Iwobi, not only does he have a good creative ability to his game, he offers work rate as well and can actually pop up with goals here and there. I don't know we never saw more of him after his last cameo in the Mozambique friendly game last year.

6. Tim Iroegbulam- I have watched this kid and he is definitely a baller, he's a perfect modern day Box2Box midfielder who can dribble well and pass brilliantly as well, now back to Aston Villa from loan and he's one to watch...read somewhere he's not far off the radar of an international call up to Nigeria soon.

8. Ifeanyi Matthew- When you want a very cerebral and composed midfielder who plays with the finesse of a prime Mikel, look no further than this lad. I daresay the ONLY reason he has not been called up yet to the SE is because he plays in the Swiss league, and has no connection to "Top Ogas in the NFF" that he can bribe.

Fringe players to be looked at: Daniel Daga, Ebenezer Akinsanmiro, Victor Eletu, Obinna Nwobodo, Ibrahim Olawoyin and Tochukwu Nnadi.

Whoever will be the coach whether Peseiro or not will have to start building our midfield around these players if he really wants to succeed. The only reason we lost that final to Ivory Coast was down to a paper thin and overworked midfield, and we had no bench to balance it out.

Notice how I didn't include Aribo, cause I honestly think he's currently not good enough to be a mainstay player in that team. Aribo needs to fight his way back at his club to prove his hunger cause a division 2 bench warmer who gets sparse minutes every now and then isn't deserving of a place in a serious nation team.

A nice take.

God bless you.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:03pm On Feb 14
Dsimmer:


I told you the coaches have their signings or can't you read? Or how did you understand him performing brilliantly as a CM in two consecutive matches where he even capped it with a goal yet benched in the third match? Besides, he was almost getting to have consecutive matches just before he was called for afcon which he honoured.
Eeyah... me think he should have been able to convince his coach 8n training na. Or what do you think? With all thisr qualities ehn
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dsimmer: 7:13pm On Feb 14
mostob:
Eeyah... me think he should have been able to convince his coach 8n training na. Or what do you think? With all thisr qualities ehn

But he's already done in it, even in matches or can't you read? Anyways , it's team's poor form that can force some coaches' hand to try new things.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:14pm On Feb 14
Amedino99:
I think we should wait for them to make senior debuts before we call them up. Added to the fact that they can't run away since they are home kids No need throwing young kids into the fray when they are not ready. Let's exhaust all our options before we start throwing academy kids into big positions.

Gbam!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:18pm On Feb 14
Blueelf:


Because of my condition, I cannot call Cow Uncle.

Eletu and Akinsanmiro are not mature enough for the SE. They have potential but are still a long way.

Once Nigerians hear Inter, AC Milan, Barca, etc even if a bench warmer or na U18 or U20, then the person is automatically a good player. How did your CHukwueze perform in AFCON? And he was supposedly a Senior Player.

I will take a Nwakali over these neonates you guys are touting anytime, any day. We need mature men. Any youth player we allow into the Senior Team must be on the condition that he has gotten enough Senior Game time in their clubs. Else, let them play for the Nigerian U20 team abeg

Kelechi Nwakali is a super eagles player,not getting attention now does not mean is not good enough,in fact Nwakali cannot be worse than what Iwobi displayed in just concluded Afcon.

I thought Eletu played last U20,Akinsanmiro was not released....I don't mind having these boys with Daga,let's see how it goes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:19pm On Feb 14
TheGoodJoe:


Sorry but the bolded is far from the truth. It is clear you have never watched Raphael Onyedika. Try to watch his games. His is a quality player and opposite of what you posted.

He is fast. He is skillful. Very skillful for that matter. He is gifted in the short possession play. A tidy short passer. Good for combination build up plays. He is also gifted in delivering long balls and switching play.

Onyedika is also tenacious, a good defender. Also good at box to box runs too.

When it comes to DM/CDM role, it is criminal to start Iwobi ahead of Onyedika in that role.

Watch this clip to have an idea about what Raphael Onyedika offers.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFtPDuhVzWs

I'm not a fan of multiple games in one clip it can be easily contrived and the player looks a lot better than he his.

I didn't see any outstanding skill or technical ability, I did not see any speed, not sure what league that is but it's not intense or fast, or particularly physical. And so he looks good somewhat, but put him in a more competitive league and he then fizzles out into obscurity. I did not see ANYTHING l can describe as VERY SKILLFUL

But let me post my forgotten and dismissed players in my opinion not good enough or in form to be in the SE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T6SHD4OZ3E?si=C2IG-YgpsZI9e7Aq


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E9DQ8xnM7o?si=5BR4M-7zLdS7_OO8

I can without a shadow of doubt or question describe Ovie as being very skilful.

Now on to Tega Onomah not good enough currently to smell the SE. And he doesn't out of pride even have a club by right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jtm9hH91k?si=0Txvo863I9ZbPJTQ

And finally someone who I think should be in the SE , that's Tim Iroegbunam. I will put in clips of individual games .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClTdl1Wg958?si=GmPmPWELiq7FQiuQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc3MOMCmXAA?si=hFHPw7yr5AgHy_wS
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:22pm On Feb 14
My focus now is will Jpes remain or not?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:24pm On Feb 14
Onyedika when never play for England u dey follow komekn argue.

The Onyedika I saw in AFCON was pretty solid

TheGoodJoe:


Sorry but the bolded is far from the truth. It is clear you have never watched Raphael Onyedika. Try to watch his games. His is a quality player and opposite of what you posted.

He is fast. He is skillful. Very skillful for that matter. He is gifted in the short possession play. A tidy short passer. Good for combination build up plays. He is also gifted in delivering long balls and switching play.

Onyedika is also tenacious, a good defender. Also good at box to box runs too.

When it comes to DM/CDM role, it is criminal to start Iwobi ahead of Onyedika in that role.

Watch this clip to have an idea about what Raphael Onyedika offers.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFtPDuhVzWs

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:28pm On Feb 14
Joebie:
My focus now is will Jpes remain or not?


I am indifferent about this anyway…but I am sure jpes will want to stay ,baba no get any option
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:33pm On Feb 14
Kog45:
Yes you right but if we see better RB than Aina/Osayi do we say NO....
Never

But Sodiq Ismail is not better at the end of the day.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:34pm On Feb 14
komekn:


I'm not a fan of multiple games in one clip it can be easily contrived and the player looks a lot better than he his.

I didn't see any outstanding skill or technical ability, I did not see any speed, not sure what league that is but it's not intense or fast, or particularly physical. And so he looks good somewhat, but put him in a more competitive league and he then fizzles out into obscurity. I did not see ANYTHING l can describe as VERY SKILLFUL

But let me post my forgotten and dismissed players in my opinion not good enough or in form to be in the SE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T6SHD4OZ3E?si=C2IG-YgpsZI9e7Aq


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E9DQ8xnM7o?si=5BR4M-7zLdS7_OO8

I can without a shadow of doubt or question describe Ovie as being very skilful.

Now on to Tega Onomah not good enough currently to smell the SE. And he doesn't out of pride even have a club by right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jtm9hH91k?si=0Txvo863I9ZbPJTQ

And finally someone who I think should be in the SE , that's Tim Iroegbunam. I will put in clips of individual games .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClTdl1Wg958?si=GmPmPWELiq7FQiuQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc3MOMCmXAA?si=hFHPw7yr5AgHy_wS

Now you are jumping to competitive league. Onyedika has played in the Champions League multiple times. He is a good player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:35pm On Feb 14
Kog45:
I just came to realize the need to give all players minutes in a tournament,the team looked tired against CIV.Really surprised not seeing Onyedika
That is the regret that Peseiro would have to live with.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 7:39pm On Feb 14
DONE DEAL ✍️: Swedish Premier League Club Óstersunds FK has signed Nigerian midfielder Michael Aduragbemi after completing his routine medical.

The TikiTaka Football Club (Abuja) product joins on a two-year deal with option for more.

#copied

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 7:39pm On Feb 14
elyte89:



I am indifferent about this anyway…but I am sure jpes will want to stay ,baba no get any option

I hear Algeria is on his radar

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 7:51pm On Feb 14
Goke7:


I hear Algeria is on his radar
his team gave him a good look in this afcon. If he announce his departure his agent will be a very busy man. Wish him luck in whichever decision he later takes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:55pm On Feb 14
Dsimmer:


But he's already done in it, even in matches or can't you read? Anyways , it's team's poor form that can force some coaches' hand to try new things.
Really? he did it? on the bench?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:57pm On Feb 14
We dey talk Onyedika, somebody dey mention Tim Iregboulam. That was how he hyped Lesley Ugochukwu and Carney Chukwuemeka that year. Joker

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:58pm On Feb 14
Odunayaw:
Never

But Sodiq Ismail is not better at the end of the day.
I don't even know Sadiq,reason why I asked BascoVanVeli.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:00pm On Feb 14
komekn:


I'm not a fan of multiple games in one clip it can be easily contrived and the player looks a lot better than he his.

I didn't see any outstanding skill or technical ability, I did not see any speed, not sure what league that is but it's not intense or fast, or particularly physical. And so he looks good somewhat, but put him in a more competitive league and he then fizzles out into obscurity. I did not see ANYTHING l can describe as VERY SKILLFUL

But let me post my forgotten and dismissed players in my opinion not good enough or in form to be in the SE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T6SHD4OZ3E?si=C2IG-YgpsZI9e7Aq


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E9DQ8xnM7o?si=5BR4M-7zLdS7_OO8

I can without a shadow of doubt or question describe Ovie as being very skilful.

Now on to Tega Onomah not good enough currently to smell the SE. And he doesn't out of pride even have a club by right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jtm9hH91k?si=0Txvo863I9ZbPJTQ

And finally someone who I think should be in the SE , that's Tim Iroegbunam. I will put in clips of individual games .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClTdl1Wg958?si=GmPmPWELiq7FQiuQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc3MOMCmXAA?si=hFHPw7yr5AgHy_wS

Also, you are off tangent in your comparison. Onyedika is a Defensive midfielder/Deep lying playmaker while Ejaria is a winger/creative midfielder. You can't compare their playing patterns especially when it comes to dribbling styles. That is why they play different roles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:00pm On Feb 14
elyte89:



No b adingra almost kill our defense …d guy is just a 22year old…I am sure if u were d coach, u wouldn’t av started him cos he’s too young
Just the same way Chukwueze be pikin when he terrorized SA in 2019

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:02pm On Feb 14
Amedino99:
I think we should wait for them to make senior debuts before we call them up. Added to the fact that they can't run away since they are home kids No need throwing young kids into the fray when they are not ready. Let's exhaust all our options before we start throwing academy kids into big positions.
With the àgbàdo toxic fanbase wey go descend on the kid if the experiment goes sideways

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