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Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by ycat: 8:53am On Feb 16 |
States/regions should take care of it including the funding from their resources of course. States/regions that can't afford it should contract it out or rearrange their priorities or hire just 100 police if that's all they can afford. Dependency on other regions must stop, it's making everyone poor and causing problems. Abbeyme: |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by ycat: 8:57am On Feb 16 |
And to an independent body elected by the people. poseidon12: |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by ycat: 9:02am On Feb 16 |
Things will change when there's no Abuja to hide behind and police officers are known by the locals from childhood. Asswipemod: |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by ycat: 9:07am On Feb 16 |
Police is always under the executive arm with an independent commission. Governors can't tell police what to do, they are not part of the cabinets. Having law enforcement under judiciary is suicidal to the criminal justice system, only a full fledge police state does that. DeOTR: |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by DeOTR: 9:25am On Feb 16 |
ycat:Police in the US is under department of justice, no? You can ahead to cite an example of a full fledge police state that has it's police department under the judiciary. It even sounds contradictory to me. You talk about independent commission like state electoral body that conducts sham local government elections right? |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by ycat: 9:34am On Feb 16 |
No, police is under the executive branch. Everything law enforcement from the cia, fbi to the police, they are executive branch. The inec is federal in Nigeria but states in the US. Nigeria is over centralized and that's why it will never work. And because we are different indigenous nations, that's why the UK system we had worked and still the best for us. In UK every region does its own thing and does not really put all its attention on London. DeOTR: |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by DeOTR: 10:02am On Feb 16 |
ycat:Department of Justice controls the FBI and DEA, etc. The executive doesn't directly control the FBI, same way the governors don't directly control state police. I've always spoken in support of regionalism. That's the last thing worked for Nigeria. We should go back to it to salvage the situation before it's too late. But we know some are threatened by the mere mention of this and you'll wonder how they're faring under this current arrangement. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by Hespee93: 11:05am On Feb 16 |
oz4real83: This is my fear. We politicise everything in this country even to life threatning issues. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by Calitoscassius(m): 11:47am On Feb 16 |
They can create who ever da fork they like they can still be bribed, infact, this would create more corrupt thieving extortionists. More corrupt police to bribe. added to the existing corrupt ones already. Even God and Jesus (that is if they exist) can be bribed in Naigeeria. Corruption is Naigeeria's main problem, for some ignorant reasons the corrupt Naigeerian people and their corrupt government are ignoring this fact. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by paramakina202: 12:04pm On Feb 16 |
tommy589: The safety of the masses first.The political elites can take care of themselves. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by tommy589(m): 12:43pm On Feb 16 |
paramakina202: As if the governors care about the masses safety.What have they done with their security votes and monthly allocations. Who is going to fund it? States that won't pay salaries when due are now expected not to default paying an official armed unit. Have you forgotten so soon the illegalities of NPF that led to endsars protest. And you think these governors that divert LG allocations and organise kangaroo LG elections would do better What FG need to do is to recruit and train National guards from each LG with input from traditional institutions. These men are stakeholders in their respective communities and knowing the stakes involve would perform creditably 1 Like |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by paramakina202: 1:16pm On Feb 16 |
tommy589: You are concerned over the safety of opposition politicians in the hands of state police. State police will eliminate varieties of insecurities without waiting for orders from above(Abuja). Kidnappers, herdsmen/bandits menace will be more efficiently dealt with at states level. The benefit of having state police out weighs any negative impact that may comee with it. Why are you afraid of state police even when federal police has failed? |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by tommy589(m): 2:32pm On Feb 16 |
paramakina202: Indicate where I commented about opposition politicians in my response to you? You overlooked the areas I highlighted and did not address it as if it is not going to pose problems. Even when you have not run foul of any law, ordinary state government enforcement officials in road,tax,waste etc. management act without fear of God or man just to rip you off Htaving an FG community driven national guard is the solution 1 Like |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by paramakina202: 2:53pm On Feb 16 |
tommy589: Tommy589:Political opponents should be preparing for extinction. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by tommy589(m): 3:27pm On Feb 16 |
paramakina202: I said your comment that I responded to %%$© |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by grandee4u(m): 4:12pm On Feb 16 |
Good one but the effects could be counter-productive if the Governors converts the already existing Vigilantee groups to such security network and hence, make them their errand Boyz. E go bloody. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by whitejs: 7:23pm On Feb 16 |
tommy589: Can this solve the problem of herdsmen, bandits, etc |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by tommy589(m): 7:49pm On Feb 16 |
whitejs: Yes The people living and working in those communities are the stakeholders. Recruitment should be grassroots and solely LG and FG collaboration. Involve traditional heads or leaders of good standing to identify/guarantee candidates of impeccable characters in recruitment/selection process. Aside loyalists of government in power filling up positions,how are the states going to sustain the outfits with funding? We are talking of governors that collect huge monthly allocations and are still unable to pay workers salaries. Let's leave it to imagination when salaries of armed men are not met 2 Likes |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by holluwizzy: 8:40pm On Feb 16 |
If evidence is provided that a person committed a crime, bribe, looting of public funds, murder or any form or association of siege / public disturbance. All parties involved as accomplice are therefore sentenced to death or any form you choose. DigitB: |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by Abbeyme: 10:20pm On Feb 16 |
ycat: This can lead to some states being safe haven for criminals. E.g, a high profile crime is committed in, say, Lagos State, tgen the criminal flees to say, Niger State which has many places where they can hide and even the state does not the financial or political will to find and arrest the criminal; will the crime be forgotten or the criminal will now buy protection from NPF? Hope you understand my analogy. That's my concern. 1 Like |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by Johnjustice: 10:23pm On Feb 16 |
Bravo on this, every state must determine it's fate... federal government can't control security of the whole nation from Abuja. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by Johnjustice: 10:25pm On Feb 16 |
Hoarders should be chased out of business...in America or UK you can't hoard in order to exploit the people, why do we accept nonsense on Nigeria? Any hoarders caught should be sued to court and prosecuted. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by jogojogo: 10:56pm On Feb 16 |
tommy589:So what's the solution please? |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by ycat: 6:14am On Feb 17 |
If state/regional police is in effect, other things will also be put in place to make it difficult for someone from another region to come and commit crime in let say Yorubaland. There will be Identity cards for every person residing in the region and distinct markings for non indigenes. There will be patrols and checkpoints for suspicious vehicles and people. Putting your hand on anyone will be a simple battery with 5 years in prison. People will complain and we will ignore them. There's something called barangay in the Philippines, Yoruba villages used to have it and was called 'oritun' Every area has it and the moment a stranger is around every eyes are on him or her and want to know what his/her mission and secretly monitor that person till he's out of the area. A polish friend recently told me that they also have that in their small town. Every problem has a solution, the willingness to do it is the thing. With the insecurity all around, there will be no mountain too high to climb to secure our land. Abbeyme: |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by ycat: 6:44am On Feb 17 |
The president appoints them and all you hear is Trump's FBI or Biden's FBI or Obama's FBI. You will never hear DOJ's FBI. Of course they secretly influence each other and scratch each other's back. Regionalism is the only way out and anyone standing against it is just trying to keep stealing from others. God has blessed every region in a special way and we can do it. The killings is just too much, time to go back to the beginning. DeOTR: 1 Like |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by DigitB: 9:31pm On Feb 17 |
holluwizzy: I think that's the best way to sanitize the political space in Nigeria |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by goslowgoslow(m): 3:35pm On Feb 19 |
DeOTR:Have you forgotten that the chief judge of the state and the federation are still under the the governor and the president respectively? They pay their bills. |
Re: FG And 36 State Governors Agree To Create State Police To Combat Insecurity by DeOTR: 10:53am On Feb 20 |
goslowgoslow:That too has to change. At least make them more independent and reduce executive influences to the barest minimum. They have a governing body. If things are right, the judiciary has not business depending so much on the executive. That's why we see that these guys can't even do their jobs until they get a bodge from the executive arm. |
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