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Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m):
ahmedio2017:
Jesus Christ PBUH said I have not come to fulfill my own will if not he that sent me. He submitted himself to the will of God so therefore he's a Muslim, he also believed in oneness of God. He worship his God exactly the way that his predecessors worship God in Islamic way. Show us where he propagated trinity and Christianity in the bible?
But the same Jesus told us what the WILL of the Father is.

Besides, you lied Jesus didn't say Will of God but Will of Father. So A Muslim can't called God his Father. Do you agree?
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 4:15pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
But the same Jesus told us what the WILL of the Father.

Besides, you lied Jesus didn't say Will of God but Will of Father. So A Muslim can't called God his Father. Do you agree?
Stop dribbling oga, if you don't have evidence go and sit down somewhere.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 4:20pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Stop dribbling oga, if you don't have evidence go and sit down somewhere.
Dribble Ke...

Evidence for what?

Here is the verse and show me where 'WILL OF GOD' was used by Jesus

"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." - John 5:30

So if Jesus says it's the WILL OF THE FATHER he can't be a Muslim because no Muslim will ever refer to Allah as Father.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 4:42pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
No!

But do you have reading problem @underline?

This is what you posted
You have a big problem o, is it not you Christians that is calling Jesus God and his mother Mary mother of God or are you dum.b, Jesus Christ PBUH will denied you guys. He knew nothing about Christianity and trinity.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 4:51pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
Dribble Ke...

Evidence for what?

Here is the verse and show me where 'WILL OF GOD' was used by Jesus

"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." - John 5:30

So if Jesus says it's the WILL OF THE FATHER he can't be a Muslim because no Muslim will ever refer to Allah as Father.
He's still talking about God, or are u saying in the bible Jesus didn't refer to God as God? He even refer to father as lord. Father here is not biological father do you get it? Why are you disturbing your brain?
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 4:54pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Jesus Christ PBUH said I have not come to fulfill my own will if not he that sent me. He submitted himself to the will of God so therefore he's a Muslim, he also believed in oneness of God. He worship his God exactly the way that his predecessors worship God in Islamic way. Show us where he propagated trinity and Christianity in the bible?
When you come to nairaland to peddle your lies and manipulations, you should be aware not everyone will buy into it. Now you ran away from your Quran into reference from the Bible grin grin grin grin What help you in this discussion is to pay attention to my words and what you type. Your words is what I will use to expose your manipulations. I started that already yesterday with your Preaching = Jihad. You don't know what you have come to accept as beliefs. We are not doing la cram la pour here.

Go back to the reference in your Quran and show me where Jesus said I am a Muslim or Islamist. grin grin grin
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 4:56pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Stop dribbling oga, if you don't have evidence go and sit down somewhere.
grin grin grin grin your own evidence is ma kin your manipulations pronounce. Muslims and Islamist don't fornicate you know. The reason you want to sell the product to us and denigrate others grin grin grin
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:03pm On Feb 19, 2024
achorladey:
When you come to nairaland to peddle your lies and manipulations, you should be aware not everyone will buy into it. Now you ran away from your Quran into reference from the Bible grin grin grin grin What help you in this discussion is to pay attention to my words and what you type. Your words is what I will use to expose your manipulations. I started that already yesterday with your Preaching = Jihad. You don't know what you have come to accept as beliefs. We are not doing la cram la pour here.

Go back to the reference in your Quran and show me where Jesus said I am a Muslim or Islamist. grin grin grin
Show me in your Bible just a single verse where Jesus talks about Christianity?
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 5:11pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
You have a big problem o, is it not you Christians that is calling Jesus God and his mother Mary mother of God or are you dum.b, Jesus Christ PBUH will denied you guys. He knew nothing about Christianity and trinity.
That's the problem with you people, you don't know something and you'll be proud in your ignorance.

Trinity is God the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.

Trinity isn't the Father, the Son( Jesus) and Mary.

So that Quran verse is wrong because Christian never takes Mary as God.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 5:11pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Show me in your Bible just a single verse where Jesus talks about Christianity?
Hooked and kept where I want you to be grin grin grin grin The below is where I started from.....

Pray to your God to show you the way, they are all the same ISLAM is only the way
I asked only way to where? grin grin grin Now you are asking me......

Show me in your Bible just a single verse where Jesus talks about Christianity?
That's the hypocrisy peddling in your brains keep.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 5:15pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
That's the problem with you people, you don't know something and you'll be proud in your ignorance.

Trinity is God the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.

Trinity isn't the Father, the Son( Jesus) and Mary.

So that Quran verse is wrong because Christian never takes Mary as God.
Na the manipulations of hadith cause am grin grin grin
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 5:15pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
He's still talking about God
But he didn't mention God, He called God THE FATHER.

You can't see that Jesus can't be a Muslim.

or are u saying in the bible Jesus didn't refer to God as God?
He did!

But He also called The Father.

Are you saying a Muslim can call Allah The Father?

He even refer to father as lord. Father here is not biological father do you get it? Why are you disturbing your brain?
I like the fact you didn't deny that Jesus called God the Father.

Now, can any Muslim call Allah Father?

We'll see who is disturbing his brain here
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 5:18pm On Feb 19, 2024
ghettochild:
See how two religious buffoon don divert OP topic...
foolish boys
We know your brains love peddling buffoon and foolish boys. It is something worthwhile for your brains to do. Your points can be made without peddling your foolish and usual buffon grin grin grin grin
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:21pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
But he didn't mention God, He called God THE FATHER.

You can't see that Jesus can't be a Muslim.



He did!

But He also called The Father.

Are you saying a Muslim can call Allah The Father?



I like the fact you didn't deny that Jesus called God the Father.

Now, can any Muslim call Allah Father?

We'll see who is disturbing his brain here
You yourself knew there are a lots of contradictions in the bible. So therefore we will take that God and not father OKAY? What I know is that Bible refer to God as God,father, and lord.

And the fact remains, he obeyed the will of God, he believed in oneness of God.


But Christianity beliefs in trinity
Christianity believed Jesus is God


Can you now see that you aren't following Jesus Christ PBUH teachings.. let's be factual here.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:24pm On Feb 19, 2024
achorladey:
Hooked and kept where I want you to be grin grin grin grin The below is where I started from.....



I asked only way to where? grin grin grin Now you are asking me......



That's the hypocrisy peddling in your brains keep.
Just tell me one verse let me learn new things, your problem is that you had been brainwashed, you are just arguing blindly.

If Jesus Christ PBUH is not a Muslim then tell me the name of his religion?

Tell us the origin of Christianity.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 5:26pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
You yourself knew there are a lots of contradictions in the bible.
Now here comes the hypocrisy.

So therefore we will take that God and not father OKAY? What I know is that Bible refer to God as God,father, and lord.
Good, you agreed that Bible refers to God as FATHER.

And Jesus refers to God as FATHER, meaning Jesus can't be a Muslim because no Muslim will dare call Allah FATHER.

And the fact remains, he obeyed the will of God, he believed in oneness of God.
The same Jesus told us what THE WILL OF HIS FATHER IS and it's not ISLAM.

So, what exactly is your point?

But Christianity beliefs in trinity
Christianity believed Jesus is God
Yes! because that's what our Holy Book says.


Can you now see that you aren't following Jesus Christ PBUH teachings.. let's be factual here.
So you're the one following Jesus teaching by following Jesus to call Allah the Father.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:28pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
That's the problem with you people, you don't know something and you'll be proud in your ignorance.

Trinity is God the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.

Trinity isn't the Father, the Son( Jesus) and Mary.

So that Quran verse is wrong because Christian never takes Mary as God.
Is that what Jesus thought you or Paul? Where did Jesus call himself God the son? Are you guys even normal at all? Aren't you using your senses? Who is telling you all this lies self ha ha. Did Jesus preaches Trinity? If no then why are you referring to him as God? If yes show proof.

You are the one that's ignorant here.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 5:30pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
You yourself knew there are a lots of contradictions in the bible. So therefore we will take that God and not father OKAY? What I know is that Bible refer to God as God,father, and lord.

And the fact remains, he obeyed the will of God, he believed in oneness of God.


But Christianity beliefs in trinity
Christianity believed Jesus is God


Can you now see that you aren't following Jesus Christ PBUH teachings.. let's be factual here.
grin grin grin grin grin grin

You yourself knew there are a lots of contradictions in the bible.
The meaning or definition of your hypocrisy coming to light more

So therefore we will take that God and not father OKAY?
Confirmation 1 of your hypocrisy

What I know is that Bible refer to God as God,father, and lord.
Just take Lord and God no problem. Na your freedom of choice grin grin

And the fact remains, he obeyed the will of God, he believed in oneness of God.
What is the meaning of Muslim? grin grin grin

But Christianity beliefs in trinity
Is there oneness in that Trinity

Christianity believed Jesus is God
It is found in the bible that Jesus is God or na contradictions of the Bible?

Can you now see that you aren't following Jesus Christ PBUH teachings.. let's be factual here.
Coming from the person calling Jesus a Muslim with no evidence grin grin grin
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:33pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
Now here comes the hypocrisy.



Good, you agreed that Bible refers to God as FATHER.

And Jesus refers to God as FATHER, meaning Jesus can't be a Muslim because no Muslim will dare call Allah FATHER.



The same Jesus told us what THE WILL OF HIS FATHER IS and it's not ISLAM.

So, what exactly is your point?



Yes! because that's what our Holy Book says.




So you're the one following Jesus teaching by following Jesus to call Allah the Father.
Calling God father not necessarily mean biological father, it means Redeemer, God. The provider, I don't know what is hard here, is your godfather your father? Even if he refer to God as father did he called himself God the son?
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 5:35pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Is that what Jesus thought you or Paul? Where did Jesus call himself God the son?
He has started changing mouth.

Meanwhile, I never said GOD THE SON

Trinity is God the Father, The Son(Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.

So Quran is wrong in that aspect.

Are you guys even normal at all? Aren't you using your senses?
Keep using insult to hide your lies.

Who is telling you all this lies self ha ha.
We're talking about Quran lie here.

Did Jesus preaches Trinity?
It's doesn't matter if Jesus preach it or not, what matter most is that Quran got it wrong about Christian belief of Trinity.

If no then why are you referring to him as God? If yes show proof.
Safe your energy first, I know you want to change from the subject matter.

You are the one that's ignorant here.
The ignorant here is you who believe Jesus is a Muslim when you agreed that Jesus called God the Father and trying to defend the lie of Quran about Trinity.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:36pm On Feb 19, 2024
achorladey:
grin grin grin grin grin grin



The meaning or definition of your hypocrisy coming to light more



Confirmation 1 of your hypocrisy



Just take Lord and God no problem. Na your freedom of choice grin grin



What is the meaning of Muslim? grin grin grin



Is there oneness in that Trinity



It is found in the bible that Jesus is God or na contradictions of the Bible?



Coming from the person calling Jesus a Muslim with no evidence grin grin grin
Christianity is founded by Paul so I'm less concerned about Bible calling Jesus Christ PBUH God. But Jesus Christ PBUH himself didn't refer to himself as God.. tongue tongue embarassed embarassed tongue tongue tongue tongue
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:39pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
He has started changing mouth.

Meanwhile, I never said GOD THE SON

Trinity is God the Father, The Son(Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.

So Quran is wrong in that aspect.



Keep using insult to hide your lies.


We're talking about Quran lie here.



It's doesn't matter if Jesus preach it or not, what matter most is that Quran got it wrong about Christian belief of Trinity.



Safe your energy first, I know you want to change from the subject matter.



The ignorant here is you who believe Jesus is a Muslim when you agreed that Jesus called God the Father and trying to defend the lie of Quran about Trinity.
You are wrong, Jesus Christ PBUH said I'll send you a comforter, who is that comforter? You are just saying trash did he made mention of holy spirit?
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 5:40pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Just tell me one verse let me learn new things, your problem is that you had been brainwashed, you are just arguing blindly.

If Jesus Christ PBUH is not a Muslim then tell me the name of his religion?

Tell us the origin of Christianity.
Remain in your manipulated state.

Just tell me one verse let me learn new things,
Your brains cannot process the ones I have discussed so far. I have evidence regarding that starting from Jihad = Preaching grin grin grin


your problem is that you had been brainwashed, you are just arguing blindly.
Brainswashing is telling me they don't fornicate in Islam and that same Islam is the only way grin grin grin grin grin. You understand that at all.

Tell us the origin of Christianity
The thread was not about the origin of Christianity. It is about the failings of adherent of Christians. Your brains did not tell you the origin of Christianity has nothing to do with that. Start learning now.

If Jesus Christ PBUH is not a Muslim then tell me the name of his religion?
Who said Jesus is a Muslim? I will enter the core of your brains regarding discussion now grin grin
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:42pm On Feb 19, 2024
achorladey:
Remain in your manipulated state.



Your brains cannot process the ones I have discussed so far. I have evidence regarding that starting from Jihad = Preaching grin grin grin




Brainswashing is telling me they don't fornicate in Islam and that same Islam is the only way grin grin grin grin grin. You understand that at all.



The thread was not about the origin of Christianity. It is about the failings of adherent of Christians. Your brains did not tell you the origin of Christianity has nothing to do with that. Start learning now.



Who said Jesus is a Muslim? I will enter the core of your brains regarding discussion now grin grin
Tell us the name of his religion, stop saying trash jawe
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 5:43pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
You are wrong, Jesus Christ PBUH said I'll send you a comforter, who is that comforter? You are just saying trash did he made mention of holy spirit?
Talking like a programmed robot.

Stay on the lane.

The issues here are:
1. Quran got the Christian faith of Trinity wrong because it's not God, Jesus and Mary.

2. Jesus called God His Father which means Jesus can't be a Muslim.

You haven't provided any evidence to counter these.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 5:47pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
Talking like a programmed robot.

Stay on the lane.

The issues here are:
1. Quran got the Christian faith of Trinity wrong because it's not God, Jesus and Mary.

2. Jesus called God His Father which means Jesus can't be a Muslim.

You haven't provided any evidence to counter these.
1, Christianity beliefs Jesus is God, then Mary is mother of God.

2. Jesus submitted to the will of God and believed in oneness of God

Muslim literally means submission to the will of God.

Islam is not a new religion but the final culmination and fulfillment of the same basic truth that ALLAH (God) revealed through all His prophets to every people.

As there is only ONE GOD, there is only One Religion. Islam is the preserved pure religion of all prophets sent by ALLAH (GOD). Islam means the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God). Therefore, all prophets were indeed MUSLIMS because they were true submitters to the will of ALLAH, the Creator.

"Truly, the religion with Allah (God) is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in calling to account." [The Noble Quran 3:19]

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." [The Noble Quran 3:85]
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 5:51pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
1, Christianity beliefs Jesus is God, then Mary is mother of God.
And that's not Trinity.

Allah got it wrong.

2. Jesus submitted to the will of God and believed in oneness of God

Muslim literally means submission to the will of God.
And called God His Father which makes Him unable to be called a Muslim.

Islam is not a new religion but the final culmination and fulfillment of the same basic truth that ALLAH (God) revealed through all His prophets to every people.

As there is only ONE GOD, there is only One Religion. Islam is the preserved pure religion of all prophets sent by ALLAH (GOD). Islam means the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God). Therefore, all prophets were indeed MUSLIMS because they were true submitters to the will of ALLAH, the Creator.

"Truly, the religion with Allah (God) is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in calling to account." [The Noble Quran 3:19]

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." [The Noble Quran 3:85]
Story story....

Provide where other Muslim called God Father

Or where Christian included Mary as members of Trinity.
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by ahmedio2017(m): 6:00pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
And that's not Trinity.

Allah got it wrong.



And called God His Father which makes Him unable to be called a Muslim.



Story story....

Provide where other Muslim called God Father

Or where Christian included Mary as members of Trinity.
I can see you have been programmed, you kept repeating the same thing, I gave you all evidence already keep saying the same thing....

Firstly, Jesus Christ PBUH is not a Christian and he knew nothing about Christianity if otherwise prove me wrong.

Secondly, he didn't called himself God neither does he ordered you to believed in trinity if otherwise prove me wrong

Lastly, he believed in oneness of God which make him to be a Muslim, if he's a Christian prove me wrong


All your references should be from Bible.....
Stop your baseless argument.....
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 6:07pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Calling God father not necessarily mean biological father, it means Redeemer, God. The provider, I don't know what is hard here, is your godfather your father? Even if he refer to God as father did he called himself God the son?
When you type read it as well

Calling God father not necessarily mean biological father, it means Redeemer, God
Read the bold well and well enough to let it sink into how words are processes

I don't know what is hard here, is your godfather your father? Even if he refer to God as father did he called himself God the son?
Nothing is hard in what you typed. It is you that wants to determine who I choose to see as a father and who I choose not to see as father. The reason for coming to a thread meant for Christians to preach and jihad that Muslims don't fornicate the reason why they are the only way. You never see anything you just dey start grin grin grin grin

Stop chasing shadows and face reality. Look ground and see the mouth of the hoe
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 6:09pm On Feb 19, 2024
Emusan:
Talking like a programmed robot.

Stay on the lane.

The issues here are:
1. Quran got the Christian faith of Trinity wrong because it's not God, Jesus and Mary.

2. Jesus called God His Father which means Jesus can't be a Muslim.

You haven't provided any evidence to counter these.
He wants to programme others or looking for who will dance to his manipulations packed into his brains as beliefs and the only way to God. grin grin grin
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by Emusan(m): 6:10pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
I can see you have been programmed, you kept repeating the same thing, I gave you all evidence already keep saying the same thing....
This is the perfect description of you.

Firstly, Jesus Christ PBUH is not a Christian and he knew nothing about Christianity if otherwise prove me wrong.
Me and you never discussed this.

So if you're bringing this up, it should be after we treated the earlier issues.

Secondly, he didn't called himself God neither does he ordered you to believed in trinity if otherwise prove me wrong
The point is, Quran got Trinity wrong.

Whether Jesus taught it isn't an issue here, if you want to raise it as new issue then wait for it later.

Lastly, he believed in oneness of God which make him to be a Muslim, if he's a Christian prove me wrong
Muslim isn't ONENESS OF GOD.

Allah is not a Father, so for Jesus to called God His Father shows He is not a Muslim because no MUSLIM will dare call Allah his/her Father.

This is what I want you to proof wrong.

Whether Muslim can called Allah Father or not.

All your references should be from Bible.....
Stop your baseless argument.....
Definitely, you don't know what you're saying.

I never discussed outside the issues above which is Quran got Christian faith about Trinity wrong and Jesus can't be a Muslim because He believes God is His Father.

So, you can see you're the one behaving like a programmed robot
Re: Fornication In Church/ church romance, Share Your Experience by achorladey: 6:11pm On Feb 19, 2024
ahmedio2017:
Tell us the name of his religion, stop saying trash jawe
You can keep peddling your trash jare. Trash like Muslims don't fornicate and that's the reason they are the only way to Where again grin grin grin grin

Who said Jesus is a Muslim?
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