₦airaland Forum

Theflint1:
It'd really be nice if you guys can keep the discourse civil, I see no reason why the discourse can't be kept clean.

It was civil. I answered A001 and deliberately didn't respond to his reply so it won't spark off something.

Only for that whoever-he-is to make crazy claims.

"All tribes down south are known as Igbos "?

He must be mád! This attitude of appropriation is exactly what breeds distrust with others when we should all live in coexistence otherwise.

He must be very mád!

Theflint1:
I'm sure you know there's levels to failure, you can't compare a student that consistently comes last to a student that comes 22 out of 30 every single term, as long as federal governance is concerned, APC is that student that has come last consistently. Nigerians know the standard of living they enjoyed before PDP and during PDP, and they can compare it with what APC has given them in the past 9 years.

The North East and North Central of Nigeria have several states that have been ruled by the AD/AC/ACN/APC/ANPP bloc in one form or the other, and those two regions are the most backwards in the country, especially considering how they fare in HDI metrics. APC has been an all-round failure and the inability of the governors from that part of the country to nip Boko Haram/ISWAP/Herdsmen in the bud is a testament to that failure, abi dem no dey collect the much-touted security vote all along?

Nigerians know the standard and how it compares that is why APC has beaten the PDP in the last 3 Federal elections. Infact every election since the formation of APC they have won. Maybe Nigerians trust the APC more than the PDP

BAT has strong ties with Nigeria's underworld of smugglers. One of the biggest problems we face today is crude oil smuggling, and our inability to get enough crude oil through official channels is largely responsible for the crisis our Naira faces today.

raumdeuter:
Nigerians know the standard and how it compares that is why APC has beaten the PDP in the last 3 Federal elections. Infact every election since the formation of APC they have won. Maybe Nigerians trust the APC more than the PDP

APC has perfected the art of election rigging and manipulation, they should try do as well when it comes to governance.

Spy360:
You claim to know geolocations and you think calling South South has any meaning in geography? Even common sense knows it's meaningless.

The term was forced on us just to create divisions.

NB
I am not begging you to be Igbo. You can be Viking for all I care. I am just passing historic information. That's all.

Peace

You are mád! Imagine a conquered people who were pillaged by all tribes in the Delta estuary, from Ijaws to Itshekiris to Ibibios claiming we are a subset of them.

You fuckiñg couldn't read and write while we were already lettered for decades. Until you were captured and sold off. Even the most famous one, was a captured man - Jaja.

You'd go fill Wikipedia with histories you imagined then come lie. If I didn't insistently state the 1929 Women Riot happened in Akwa Ibom, posting pictures and more, many of you would still be insisting.

Now you want to claim Nsibidi. On Wikipedia you wrote Ibibio and Igbo, next you'd edit it to add only Igbo. Is there an Ekpe cult which is the custodian of Nsibidi in Igbo land? No. How come you own it?

Same way you force Afang soup which has been an Ibibio cuisine for centuries as yours. Then rebranded it as Okasi.

What is wrong with you people?

Stop the forced kinship. We are not interested. Keep your appropriation to yourselves.

Theflint1:
APC has perfected the art of election rigging and manipulation, they should try do as well when it comes to governance.

LOL continue to deceive yourself. You think APC rigged out PDP or the people voted them?

Which election specifically did APC rigged to win FG and which manipulations did they know that PDP didnt know

I dont even think any igbo person wants to be associated with ibibio or efik. Disstroy stop disturbing yourself. What spy is saying is just History. Una never reach to answer igbo, The difference is Clear

Spy360:
You are mistaken. Chukwu is a title. The name is Obasi.

Chukwu, Obasi, Oghene, Fenibeso are distinct entities. And no, they're not titles.

You're merely regurgitating the wrong history and lies taught to you in Sunday schools.

Those beings (pagan gods) were actual people (ancestors of present day humans) that existed in the past eras and were worshipped as one god or the other before the advent of Christianity in those areas.

They're not titles as you were taught in Sunday schools, and they're entities distinct from Yahweh or Jesus Christ.

I don't know why people refuse to apply common sense and learn their history. You're merely repeating the same lies the colonialists put in your head all about to corrupt your history.

Chukwu is not a title. That's the chief god of the Igbos before the advent of Christianity.

The same thing applies to Obasi/Oghene, Fenibeso and the others. They're pagan gods and ancestors of Africans, especially Igbos, Efiks, Ijaws, Ibibios.

They've nothing to do with your imported Yahweh or Jesus Christ that your slavemasters gave you.

How would a person be calling themselves educated in the 21st century and you know next to nothing about the history of your roots (your ancestors)?

Really shameful. Merely repeating the same lies you read in the Bible and Sunday school all about

DissTroy:
You are mád! Imagine a conquered people who were pillaged by all tribes in the Delta estuary, from Ijaws to Itshekiris to Ibibios claiming we are a subset of them.

You fuckiñg couldn't read and write while we were already lettered for decades. Until you were captured and sold off. Even the most famous one, was a captured man - Jaja.

You'd go fill Wikipedia with histories you imagined then come lie. If I didn't insistently state the 1929 Women Riot happened in Akwa Ibom, posting pictures and more, many of you would still be insisting.

Now you want to claim Nsibidi. On Wikipedia you wrote Ibibio and Igbo, next you'd edit it to add only Igbo. Is there an Ekpe cult which is the custodian of Nsibidi in Igbo land? No. How come you own it?

Same way you force Afang soup which has been an Ibibio cuisine for centuries as yours. Then rebranded it as Okasi.

What is wrong with you people?

Stop the forced kinship. We are not interested. Keep your appropriation to yourselves.

Jaja the captured one became King of Opobo.

Why are you so pained?

DissTroy:
You are mád! Imagine a conquered people who were pillaged by all tribes in the Delta estuary, from Ijaws to Itshekiris to Ibibios claiming we are a subset of them.

You fuckiñg couldn't read and write while we were already lettered for decades. Until you were captured and sold off. Even the most famous one, was a captured man - Jaja.

You'd go fill Wikipedia with histories you imagined then come lie. If I didn't insistently state the 1929 Women Riot happened in Akwa Ibom, posting pictures and more, many of you would still be insisting.

Now you want to claim Nsibidi. On Wikipedia you wrote Ibibio and Igbo, next you'd edit it to add only Igbo. Is there an Ekpe cult which is the custodian of Nsibidi in Igbo land? No. How come you own it?

Same way you force Afang soup which has been an Ibibio cuisine for centuries as yours. Then rebranded it as Okasi.

What is wrong with you people?

Stop the forced kinship. We are not interested. Keep your appropriation to yourselves.

You are sick bro, Ukazi is ukazi. Afang is afang(overated though) Ibibio is not God that created ukazi Leaf. Like i said, Ibibio never reach

DissTroy:
It was civil. I answered A001 and deliberately didn't respond to his reply so it won't spark off something.

Only for that whoever-he-is to make crazy claims.

"All tribes down south are known as Igbos "?

He must be mád! This attitude of appropriation is exactly what breeds distrust with others even we should all live in coexistence.

He must be very mád!

Well, saying all tribes down South are Igbos is false, and I don't think I saw where he said that, maybe he implied it sha. I'm sure you'd agree that some of the state/tribal lines drawn by the British and later military presidents were sometimes drawn for selfish reasons and not necessarily because of who's who, so I don't think it's too much of a wrong statement to say certain tribes were placed in regions where they normally shouldn't be. And person of a particular tribe saying they're not Igbos or whatever doesn't count for much, especially when facts on their etymology confirm they're indeed Igbos or whatever.

Ihebu4chelsea:
I dont even think any igbo person wants to be associated with ibibio or efik. Disstroy stop disturbing yourself. What spy is saying is just History. Una never reach to answer igbo, The difference is Clear

You are an dumbo who pops up only when there's a tribal war or seemingly one.

You have non history. No documented one. The closest you had was years after you had been captured and in-roads made by us for the Europeans to get access.

You weren't even organised, had no king, and Village A could go to war with Village B over a bunch of plantain and listened to no one. How then could you have been significant enough for "Igbos" to be the denonym of the many tribes around. Heck! You were in the hinterlands and we were on the coast where everything is.

You needed to come to us, not us to you. And you had to pay homage while at it.

Show us your history. Was it not less than 200 years ago or so when you had contact with British while most of us on the coast had with the Europeans for over 400 years?

Nobody wants to be you. You are the one forcing yourself on us. Stay on your lane. We don't want to be you and certainly not you being us.

A001:
Chukwu, Obasi, Oghene, Fenibeso are distinct entities. And no, they're not titles.

You're merely regurgitating the wrong history and lies taught to you in Sunday schools.

Those beings (pagan gods) were actual people (ancestors of present day humans) that existed in the past eras and were worshipped as one god or the other before the advent of Christianity in those areas.

They're not titles as you were taught in Sunday schools, and they're entities distinct from Yahweh or Jesus Christ.

I don't know why people refuse to apply common sense and learn their history. You're merely repeating the same lies the colonialists put in your head all about to corrupt your history.

Chukwu is not a title. That's the chief god of the Igbos before the advent of Christianity.

The same thing applies to Obasi/Oghene, Fenibeso and the others. They're pagan gods and ancestors of Africans, especially Igbos, Efiks, Ijaws, Ibibios.

They've nothing to do with your imported Yahweh or Jesus Christ that your slavemasters gave you.

How would a person be calling themselves educated in the 21st century and you know next to nothing about the history of your roots (your ancestors)?

Really shameful. Merely repeating the same lies you read in the Bible and Sunday school all about

You are not Igbo if not you should know.

Chi is not a god. It simply means destiny or ones fate.

Chukwu is Chi-Ukwu, meaning universal Chi. Chineke is the power of creation. These are titles. It's like when you call someone your sunshine. That doesn't mean it's a name.

The name attributed to the Supreme God in Igbo is Obasi.

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Spy360:
Jaja the captured one became King of Opobo.

Why are you so pained?

That's not my business. There are Ijaws here. Let them defend themselves. My loyalty is to the Ibibio people and when you wrongly attribute anything to the Ibibio (and Akwa Ibom by extension), I'd respond.

You can try to troll with a thousand emojis to cover you shame and deviate. The point is stop appropriating.

This is already tribal harassment. If this were that era, you know you would be singing "Kumbaya" in a dingy boat by now.

Ihebu4chelsea:
You are sick bro, Ukazi is ukazi. Afang is afang(overated though) Ibibio is not God that created ukazi Leaf. Like i said, Ibibio never reach

The apeman never eat Ofe Owerre. that's why he is bleating like aturu. One day I go carry am enter Mama Owerri restaurant make him taste Ofe Owerre.

Person wey nor get money cannot eat Ofe Ukazi.

DissTroy:
That's not my business. There are Ijaws here. Let them defend themselves. My loyalty is to the Ibibio people and when you wrongly attribute anything to the Ibibio (and Akwa Ibom by extension), I'd respond.

You can try to troll with a thousand emojis to cover you shame and deviate. The point is stop appropriating.

This is already tribal harassment. If this were that era, you know you would be singing "Kumbaya" in a dingy boat by now.

The funny thing in all this is that you can never be so sure whether you are really Ibibio or Igbo.

Spy360:
African ancient history is not documented but when you look at similarities in culture and traditions you have your facts. I have just used the Ekpe society as an example.

The Otukpo people in Benue speak Igbo, I understand them. Same as the Kwale people in Delta. You can Google Igbo people in Kogi state.

My point is the term Igbo is very generic and in reality is not limited to the five Eastern states

Speaking a language does not mean anything at all. An Otukpo man will never agree with u his ancestors were Igbo because none of their historical records account for this Igbo origin u are trying to force on them. Igbos may have migrated to different parts of the country, but it doesn't mean they are indigenous to those places.

I find it disturbing that an Igbo person will try to force his history or culture on other people.

Men like this should be part of national governance. Intelligent and clean.

Spy360:
The apeman never eat Ofe Owerre. that's why he is bleating like aturu. One day I go carry am enter Mama Owerri restaurant make him taste Ofe Owerre.

Person wey nor get money cannot eat Ofe Ukazi.

You want to go full on self-racism and tribalistic? Well, you asked for it.

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As at 1920, there are still pictures of Igbos walking around naked! Pictured naked in barns and crouching over! NAKED when other tribes were obtaining PhDs and breaking barriers.

Since you want to go low, let's do it.

I'd dig up links to pictures of actual Igbo apemen in the 1900's and you dig up any of Ibibios or the tribes on the coast.

The one who can dig up the pictures wins and the loser deactivates his account.

Deal?

Theflint1:
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DissTroy:
He's a mischievous nitwit. They have begun the aggression then when I and others counter, they play the victims.

Imagine people in the hinterlands who nobody knew and were scattered across countless settlements with no united or defined leadership claiming everyone called us then. Even the Portuguese and first Europeans needed us to go get them for the (inhumane) interaction with the outside world they first had.

You were the oppressed and never the dominant ones. Was it not Ijaw, Itshekiri and Ibibio manhunters who invaded you and sold you off? Inhumane in retrospective but it happened, so how come you claim out of your anus that all tribes down the Niger were called Igbos? In your hinterlands nobody came to except during the slave trade to hunt and capture?

Wasn't it relatively recently their language got written? When Ibibio-Efik and others had been documented for years before that?

He just wants to start and argument and rewrite history. Well, it's a weekend. Let's have it. But let's remember who started it first.

While I don't subscribe to name calling in this discourse, I agree with u that spy is trying to rewrite history that was never written. He does not have any historical data or information to rely on to claim Efiks and other people in the South South and Middle belt are Igbos.

Maybe he has a point that the Igbo speaking parts of Rivers and Delta were originally Igbos but for the other South South states I believe he's just capping.

BlueRayDick:
Speaking a language does not mean anything at all. An Otukpo man will never agree with u his ancestors were Igbo because none of their historical records account for this Igbo origin u are trying to force on them. Igbos may have migrated to different parts of the country, but it doesn't mean they are indigenous to those places.

I find it disturbing that an Igbo person will try to force his history or culture on other people.

Which one is force? I travelled to Benue and met a community speaking Igbo. I asked them they said they are Igbos. I went back to my history of early Nigeria Eastern region and found out they were part of it and were only carved out by the military.

Whoever is using force is the ones trying to break the Igbo community. I didn't force them to speak Igbo.

BlueRayDick:
I find it disturbing that an Igbo person will try to force his history or culture on other people.

They are extremely notorious for this. Extremely.. I stated it during the last back-and-forths here from Saturday to Sunday.

I stated it during the height of the "No man's land" saga pre and ante general elections. I stated the Igbos always trigger others needlessly then play victims. Always!


Notice how it started with Spy360 then Ihebu joined in and by evening all of them would join in. Predictable aggressive lots who bite first, gaslight then play the victims.

BlueRayDick:
Speaking a language does not mean anything at all. An Otukpo man will never agree with u his ancestors were Igbo because none of their historical records account for this Igbo origin u are trying to force on them. Igbos may have migrated to different parts of the country, but it doesn't mean they are indigenous to those places.

I find it disturbing that an Igbo person will try to force his history or culture on other people.

So you mean there's no case even in situations where up to 3-4 generations ago the people have been speaking Igbo? This thing doesn't work like that. You can't be not Yoruba simply because you say you're not Yoruba.

BlueRayDick:
While I don't subscribe to name calling in this discourse, I agree with u that spy is trying to rewrite history that was never written. He does not have any historical data or information to rely on to claim Efiks and other people in the South South and Middle belt are Igbos.

Maybe he has a point that the Igbo speaking parts of Rivers and Delta were originally Igbos but for the other South South states I believe he's just capping.

Start with the fact that Igbo is a generic identity. Same way we have Russians. Ukrainians, Belarusians, etc are all Russians. That's history. One may choose to deny it (something I am not opposed to) but then history remains what it is.

Ihebu4chelsea:
I dont even think any igbo person wants to be associated with ibibio or efik. Disstroy stop disturbing yourself. What spy is saying is just History. Una never reach to answer igbo, The difference is Clear

Spy is actually not saying anything according to history. Which history book did u read Efik are Igbos originally ?

Spy360:
The funny thing in all this is that you can never be so sure whether you are really Ibibio or Igbo.

I'm not sure of the complete ethnic profile of Akwa Ibom, but Ibibio doesn't sound like Igbo sha, so what exactly is your reason for claiming Ibibio is Igbo?

Spy360:
You are not Igbo if not you should know.

Chi is not a god. It simply means destiny or ones fate.

Chukwu is Chi-Ukwu, meaning universal Chi. Chineke is the power of creation. These are titles. It's like when you call someone your sunshine. That doesn't mean it's a name.

The name attributed to the Supreme God in Igbo is Obasi.

You're so ignorant. Even if I'm not Igbo, I know more about the Igbo spirituality more than you do. Christianity has corrupted the illusion of knowledge you think you've.

Traditionally, Chukwu isn't a title. Chukwu is the chief (pagan) god of the Igbos before the advent of Christianity in that sub-region.

Abassi, the chief god of the Efiks, Ibibios, and Annangs, is distinct from Chukwu, the chief god of the Igbos.

The British slavemasters taught that Chukwu is a title, and Chukwu is the same as Obasi, Yahweh, and Jesus, and you believe so in this day and age.

Lols

Very funny. Abassi isn't the same as Chukwu or Yahweh or Jesus Christ.

How will someone be saying this in the 21st century? Lols.

Just like those mumunis in South western states dey call Olorun Olodumare, the chief pagan god of the Yorubas, the same as Yahweh or Allah.

How will the country develop when most people demonstrate this low of intelligence in this day and age? Really pathetic

So many "dense" people in the country.

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DissTroy:
They are extremely notorious for this. Extremely.. I stated it during the last back-and-forths here from Saturday to Sunday.

I stated it during the height of the "No man's land" saga pre and ante general elections. I stated the Igbos always trigger others needlessly then play victims. Always!


Notice how it started with Spy360 then Ihebu joined in and by evening all of them would join in. Predictable aggressive lots who bite first, gaslight then play the victims.

The fact that it irritates you means that there is truth in it.

When I give out such information, it is not meant for anyone to accept or reject. That choice is entirely personal. After all there are many people who have taken up other nationality. My cousins in Canada don't consider themselves Nigerians talkless of Igbo.