Hi

Dtruthspeaker:


And i have told you before thst you are making a fatal error as proving by your changing of post.and i.told you.that if we are not under Law then you have a right to commit adultery, steal, kill etc. And when you Bleep a girl do.yo not run away knowing that you may find yourself marrying her? Amd that is why Christianity counsels fleeing from fornication.and staying chaste and undefiled until marriage.

As i said, we hava had all these before and this is how you kept changing post and changing post. But as i have warned you before, dont be like Satan for the blood of all the people you kiilled shall be on your head. I'm done.

If we are under the Law of Moses, just tell me one of the laws that is currently being enforced? I mean punishment that goes with violation. If you can't, please keep quiet on this subject and learn.

Kobojunkie:
1. Scripture almost gives the reason why Moses, and the older Israelites, roamed the desert for 40 years — a trip that should not have taken more than a couple of months, mind you —to have to do with God's Word that promised that all those among them who were over 20 at the time they left Egypt would not enter the promised Land. However, you seem to think that twist that to assert instead that the reason why Moses did not make it into the Land of Canaan had to do with a failure in the plan of God to get Moses into the Land. So, because Moses was 120 at the time, He was too old for God to take him to Canaan? WOW....

2. So, because Jesus Christ spent only 3.5 years, He did not have enough time to complete what Moses did. The Son of God status of Jesus Christ meant absolutely nothing. Jesus Christ was not given enough time by God. And so Jesus Christ needed the help of Paul who showed up years after his death to help him complete the work. The whole being a Son of God did not come with benefits above humans for Jesus Christ, did it?

3. This is a whole different Jesus Christ you have manufactured for yourself apart from the one written in Scripture. Might as well throw out the Gospels entirely cause it almost seems that your sect/denomination is about to fork off an entirely bizarre addition to both scripture and the already over 47,000 sects/denominations of the religion of Christianity, each with their version/idol of Jesus Christ that equally comes nowhere close to the one proclaimed in Scripture.

4. Moses alone did not give all the prophecies. Interesting! So no point in rebasing back to the Old Law where we find the first mentions of the coming of the fact that God would destroy and scatter the people of Israel for their disobedience of Him, and usher in a New Kingdom by way of a New agreement — all events which took place over 1900 years ago — that that which He would then gather back His scattered people from all ends of the earth Himself?

It's an insult to compare Jesus and Moses. How dare you. Are you out of your mind?

God always uses a human vessel to accomplish his purpose.

Jesus couldn't have taught the things he revealed to Paul because the present day church of the Gentiles was not yet born. It was still a mystery. Please, let this simple truth sink into your brain.

And all that Paul wrote was revealed by Jesus to him through his Spirit.

Ken4Christ:
Hi

If we are under the Law of Moses, just tell me one of the laws that is currently being enforced? I mean punishment that goes with violation. If you can't, please keep quiet on this subject and learn.

i mentioned 3. Adultery, stealing, murder. And now i add prostitution, marrying of the girl you bleeped.

Dtruthspeaker:
There is no misunderstanding here. This is just an example of because of guilt

People see what they want to see and what people want to see never has anything to do with the truth. R. Bolano

Exactly like a criminal who must wish that Criminal Law has been abolished and therefore he will hang on anyone who says criminal law has been abolished even if it is fake news, but he no go gree.

There is actually, if not people will not just focus on the word 'ABOLISH' alone and neglected the real one which is 'FULFILL'.

Firstly, you don't FULFILL law rather you obey law.

Secondly, if the above is true then, one can deduce that Jesus wasn't talking about over 600 laws given to the Israelites.

Thirdly, in line of this, it is more evident that when Christ says he didn't come to ABOLISH but rather to FULFILL then it must be everything written about HIM and how the rest have their true meaning in the messianic works.

Lastly, this is exactly how Christ Himself put it after resurrection.

"He said to them, ‘How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?’ And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself. ... He said to them, ‘This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.’ Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. Luke 24:25-27, 44-45

Dtruthspeaker:


i mentioned 3. Adultery, stealing, murder. And now i add prostitution, marrying of the girl you bleeped.

You didn't answer my question. Cite an example of anyone who was stoned to death for adultery according to the Law of Moses.

Ken4Christ:
■ It's an insult to compare Jesus and Moses. How dare you. Are you out of your mind?
■ God always uses a human vessel to accomplish his purpose.
■ Jesus couldn't have taught the things he revealed to Paul because the present day church of the Gentiles was not yet born. It was still a mystery. Please, let this simple truth sink into your brain. And all that Paul wrote was revealed by Jesus to him through his Spirit.

You don't compare Jesus Christ to Moses but earlier you asserted that because Moses failed therefore Jesus Christ too had to fail and had to be saved many years later by Paul. Wow... the ones wey do una these things, you never begin talk at all.

2. So Jesus Christ was not human enough and the over 120 disciples Jesus Christ Himself already prepared were not fully human either. It had to be Paul to save His skin because Paul wrote letters all of which contained mostly ideas from the Old Law of Moses and nothing much of the New Law.

3. Present-day church, you mean the church ruled and full of those Jesus Christ referred to as dogs? They are to be blamed on Paul? Yikes.... you lot wish to take that man, Paul, down with these accusations of yours.

Ken4Christ:


You didn't answer my question. Cite an example of anyone who was stoned to death for adultery according to the Law of Moses.

See how you are disgracefully shifting post? You said "just tell me one of the laws that is currently being enforced?" and now i have answered you with 5 you have now shifted to stoning as if stoning is the only Law.

As i said, you have heard all these before and as you could not answer then, you still cannot answer even now, so you are left with your mad fantasy.

Dtruthspeaker:


See how you are disgracefully shifting post? You said "just tell me one of the laws that is currently being enforced?" and now i have answered you with 5 you have now shifted to stoning as if stoning is the only Law.

As i said, you have heard all these before and as you could not answer then, you still cannot answer even now, so you are left with your mad fantasy.

I didn't shift post. You just failed the exam. I will consider you for a resit.

Kobojunkie:
You don't compare Jesus Christ to Moses but earlier you asserted that because Moses failed therefore Jesus Christ too had to fail and had to be saved many years later by Paul. Wow... the ones wey do una these things, you never begin talk at all.

2. So Jesus Christ was not human enough and the over 120 disciples Jesus Christ Himself already prepared were not fully human either. It had to be Paul to save His skin because Paul wrote letters all of which contained mostly ideas from the Old Law of Moses and nothing much of the New Law.

3. Present-day church, you mean the church ruled and full of those Jesus Christ referred to as dogs? They are to be blamed on Paul? Yikes.... you lot wish to take that man, Paul, down with these accusations of yours.

Paul's letters were not his ideas. He was just a servant of Christ. Jesus gave him the revelations. What is wrong about that? Don't Kings send servants on errands?

Ken4Christ:
■ Paul's letters were not his ideas.
■ He was just a servant of Christ. Jesus gave him the revelations.
■ What is wrong about that? Don't Kings send servants on errands?

Many of the ideas expressed in his letters were of his opinion, his digest of the law, and nothing of Jesus Christ. Paul said this himself.

2. Jesus Christ promised to give an understanding of the kind that aligned with His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 16 - 26 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 1 - 16. Many of Paul's supposed claims do not align at all with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

3. A wise King never sends His servant on an errand with a message different from that which He has established by way of His proclamation. The King that you claim by way of your special interpretations sent Paul out does not sound at all like a wise king.

Ken4Christ:


I didn't shift post. You just failed the exam. I will consider you for a resit.

Even in the face of your clear words where you said "just tell me one of the laws that is currently being enforced?" which you now changed and shifted to "Cite an example of anyone who was stoned to death"

Ooh oh so you are a blare faced Liar, like some atheists! So now your hidden evils are coming out and that is you need to delude yourself just like atheists do to let you sleep at night. Hellfire is still going to burn you with your eyes open after it has burnt your delusions.

Dtruthspeaker:


Even in the face of your clear words where you said "just tell me one of the laws that is currently being enforced?" which you now changed and shifted to "Cite an example of anyone who was stoned to death"

Ooh oh so you are a blare faced Liar, like some atheists! So now your hidden evils are coming out and that is you need to delude yourself just like atheists do to let you sleep at night. Hellfire is still going to burn you with your eyes open after it has burnt your delusions.

Maybe you should go back to school and study English language afresh. What do you understand by the word enforce? It is implied by that word.

A law that is given to be obeyed is not a law unless it is enforced. People are committing adultery on a daily basis. If the Law of Moses is enforced, people who commit adultery will be stoned to death on a daily basis. But it is not happening. This is the proof positive that we are not under the Law of Moses.

Kobojunkie:
Many of the ideas expressed in his letters were of his opinion, his digest of the law, and nothing of Jesus Christ. Paul said this himself.

2. Jesus Christ promised to give an understanding of the kind that aligned with His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 16 - 26 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 1 - 16. Many of Paul's supposed claims do not align at all with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

3. A wise King never sends His servant on an errand with a message different from that which He has established by way of His proclamation. The King that you claim by way of your special interpretations sent Paul out does not sound at all like a wise king.

Please point out the messages of Paul that contradicts the teachings of Jesus. I am not aware of any. His message was consistent with the teachings of my Lord Jesus.

Ken4Christ:
■ Please point out the messages of Paul that contradicts the teachings of Jesus. I am not aware of any. His message was consistent with the teachings of my Lord Jesus.

How can you be aware of it when you earlier suggested that Paul added his ideas to the words of Jesus Christ, a claim that directly contradicts God of Israel and Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
How can you be aware of it when you earlier suggested that Paul added his ideas to the words of Jesus Christ, a claim that directly contradicts God of Israel and Jesus Christ?

Which ideas? How many times did he do it? Are the ideas against the word of God or violates the moral requirements of the scriptures? Don't your parents give you godly counsels? Please point the ideas out and let's see if they contradict the scriptures?

Ken4Christ:
■Which ideas? How many times did he do it? Are the ideas against the word of God or violates the moral requirements of the scriptures?
■Don't your parents give you godly counsels? Please point the ideas out and let's see if they contradict the scriptures?

1. It is against the declaration of God to Add, Remove, or even change any of His commandments and teachings — God's Law. You set Paul up as someone who did all that and more, and here you ask me how any of that is against God?

2. What moral law? God never gave men moral laws.

3. And no, my parents don't give me "godly" counsel because it is impossible for parents to do any such, particularly since Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
1. It is against the declaration of God to Add, Remove, or even change any of His commandments and teachings — God's Law. You set Paul up as someone who did all that and more, and here you ask me how any of that is against God?

2. What moral law? God never gave men moral laws.

3. And no, my parents don't give me "godly" counsel because it is impossible for parents to do any such, particularly since Jesus Christ.

Please, visit a psychiatrist.

Ken4Christ:
■ Please, visit a psychiatrist.

That advice suits you better since you here claim you worship a God whose teachings and commandments you pay absolutely no heed to. Imagine you asking me where the contradictions are when you have been dishing them one after the other ever since this conversation began. Every assertion you made here regarding the person of Paul violates both the Old Law which according to you still existed in place since Jesus Christ never finished His mission, according to you, while at the same time violating that spoken by Jesus Christ Himself. Logical Fallacies upon logical fallacies ! You don't even seem to care much for God as central to your believe is Paul the Messiah to Jesus Christ. Yet you think I am the one who needs to see a shrink? Sheesh!

Ken4Christ:


Maybe you should go back to school and study English language afresh. What do you understand by the word enforce? It is implied by that word.

A law that is given to be obeyed is not a law unless it is enforced. People are committing adultery on a daily basis. If the Law of Moses is enforced, people who commit adultery will be stoned to death on a daily basis. But it is not happening. This is the proof positive that we are not under the Law of Moses.

Yet another shifting of post. Now its "enforce". Arent people also rying to prevent adultery, stealing killing from being committed?

If The Law was abolished would your neighbour not have a right to sleep with your wife and steal your property and kill you, exactly as The abolishment of tinted permit which now people are freely driving with tinted glasses?

Ken4lies and delusions, having unending argument will not change the fact that you are heading into hellfire.

Kobojunkie:
1. It is against the declaration of God to Add, Remove, or even change any of His commandments and teachings — God's Law. You set Paul up as someone who did all that and more, and here you ask me how any of that is against God?

Since you claim Paul did all these.

Do you then agree that Paul can't be of Christ and can't be chosen by Christ, which then mean all Paul teachings should be rejected?

See the question for Pete's sake!

Paul was not chosen by Jesus Christ. Rather, Paul, like every other young man and woman in the land of Zion during the last days of God's Judgement against the Nation of Israel(and Judah) experienced what the prophet Joel said would happen to ALL the sons and daughters of Israel living in the Land at the time. Rather, the God of Israel, YHWH, is the one who sent the vision to all in the Land at the time. Visions and dreams were promised by God of Israel — YHWH— in His Old Law of Moses to those who would be Prophets to Him - Numbers 12 vs 1 - 6. And as He said in Scripture, before He would put a seal on prophets and visions - Daniel 9 vs 24 - He would communicate to all in the land as He declared through Joel.

28 “After this, I will pour out my Spirit on all kinds of people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will have dreams, and your young men will see visions.
29 In those days I will pour out my Spirit even on servants, both men and women.
30 I will work wonders in the sky and on the earth. There will be blood, fire, and thick smoke.
31 The sun will be changed into darkness, and the moon will be as red as blood. Then the great and fearful day of the Lord will come!
32 And everyone who trusts in the Lord[e] will be saved. There will be survivors on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, just as the Lord said. Yes, those left alive will be the ones the Lord has called. - Joel 2 vs 28 - 31

He was not the only man who saw Jesus Christ coming in His Kingdom as Jesus Christ revealed that all would see it. Paul was not the only man who was sent out into the world — The Lost sheep of Israel— among the Gentiles — the Non-Jewish tribes of the people of Israel.

** Paul is said to have died in 69 AD , in Rome, before Jerusalem was destroyed!

Dtruthspeaker:


Yet another shifting of post. Now its "enforce". Arent people also rying to prevent adultery, stealing killing from being committed?

If The Law was abolished would your neighbour not have a right to sleep with your wife and steal your property and kill you, exactly as The abolishment of tinted permit which now people are freely driving with tinted glasses?

Ken4lies and delusions, having unending argument will not change the fact that you are heading into hellfire.

You are a product of the falling standard of education in Nigeria. You lack the ability to understand simple truth.

The Law of Moses is very strict. Violation brings instant judgement. A man who was caught gathering sticks on a Sabbath day was stoned to death at the command of God - Numbers 15:32-36.

How many of such judgement are we experiencing today? None. So, it affirms the fact that we are no longer under the Law of Moses.

The fact that we are not under Moses Law doesn't mean that we don't have scriptures to guide our daily living. The teachings of our Lord Jesus and the instructions given to us through the letters of the Apostles are enough to guide our daily living. And violation does not bring instant judgement. Rather, God has made provisions for us to receive forgiveness each time we fall into sin. This was not the case under the Law of Moses.

Kobojunkie:
That advice suits you better since you here claim you worship a God whose teachings and commandments you pay absolutely no heed to. Imagine you asking me where the contradictions are when you have been dishing them one after the other ever since this conversation began. Every assertion you made here regarding the person of Paul violates both the Old Law which according to you still existed in place since Jesus Christ never finished His mission, according to you, while at the same time violating that spoken by Jesus Christ Himself. Logical Fallacies upon logical fallacies ! You don't even seem to care much for God as central to your believe is Paul the Messiah to Jesus Christ. Yet you think I am the one who needs to see a shrink? Sheesh!

The Law of Moses has been abolished because it was not profitable for the Jews. Rather, it brought a curse on them.

Jesus brought in grace, laid the foundation for the New Testament church. The Apostles built on the foundation through their letters. Why is it difficult for you to understand this simple truth?

Ken4Christ:
■ The Law of Moses has been abolished because it was not profitable for the Jews. Rather, it brought a curse on them.
■ Jesus brought in grace, laid the foundation for the New Testament church. The Apostles built on the foundation through their letters. Why is it difficult for you to understand this simple truth?

An eternal Law abolished? WOW.... you are just a river manufacturing contradictions for free, aren't you?

2. The same Jesus Christ who swore that not a jot of the Law will disappear even if Heaven and Earth do, but here you want us to believe Jesus Christ lied, and it is the same lying Jesus Christ that your savior Paul redeemed with his new claims? Na wa ooo!

So Jesus didn't finish or complete his mission before he left?

Na Paul con finish Christianity for you guys!

No wonder there's are words such as "Paulinism" "Paulism" "Pauline Christianity" and "Paulanity"!

AntiChristian:
So Jesus didn't finish or complete his mission before he left?

Na Paul con finish Christianity for you guys!

No wonder there's are words such as "Paulinism" "Paulism" "Pauline Christianity" and "Paulanity"!

Shey na your Alfa or chief imam tell u say Jesus Christ didn't complete his mission?

Shey your islamic Jesus that is coming back to married and born children, carry kettle and bang his head on the ground five times a day, worship kaaba, etc you think is the same Jesus Christ of Nazareth abi?

Antiislaam:



Shey na your Alfa or chief imam tell u say Jesus Christ didn't complete his mission?

I know you haven't used your glasses!

Look at the title of the thread!

Shey your islamic Jesus that is coming back to married and born children, carry kettle and bang his head on the ground five times a day, worship kaaba, etc you think is the same Jesus Christ of Nazareth abi?

Yes, see head banging in the Bible!

Matthew 14:23
“And when he (Jesus) had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray…..”

Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed...

You and your family you better bang your head like Jesus!
Or you can crucify yourselves like him!

AntiChristian:
So Jesus didn't finish or complete his mission before he left?

Na Paul con finish Christianity for you guys!

No wonder there's are words such as "Paulinism" "Paulism" "Pauline Christianity" and "Paulanity"!

Paul was only telling the gospels which the Greeks, Romans etc already accepted when they came to enslave the Jews, even before Paul became a preacher. Why do Arabs even have a problem with Paul? Wetin concern them with Paul? E concern them to begin with?

I have always stated that the premises of Islam is faulty on several levels, starting with the fabrication of Jewish history done by Arab Mohammed who had no business doing such fabrication different from the original, not to mention his pervertedness and terrorism. And no, there's no brothel in heaven like the peadophilic Mohammed envisaged. Terrorist Mohammed only wanted to steal lands for his Arab people who wanted to continue such act but was dealt with by the Europeans.

On the topic, it was the law and justice of Moses that was abolished. I don't think the 10 commandments was, even as Jesus fulfilled it. The 10 commandments ain't bad itself. It's simply moral code of the world. I mean no one would like anyone stealing huge money/partner from him for example. So the law is to implement order and balance. However back then, the punishment rendered to an offender who did only little was so grave. Such grave punishment was rendered to anyone who broke any of the commandments which included Moses law, even if the commandment broken was only minimal. That was the justice and wrath aspect of God being rendered through Satan who was only obeying God's word by serving Justice to anyone who broke the law. His own was to test one's integrity and render justice as fits.

But the coming of Jesus was to depict God's merciful nature and ensure abundant grace and mercy persists, even if one broke the law. For example, Jesus pardoned the adulterous woman. He also didn't condemn Mary Magdalene who was a prostitute. He also forgave Zaccheus who was a greedy thief stealing more money than required from others than what his job asked of him. Well, Jesus is the one who now justifies and zaccheus did restitution too

Anyways, we can now say while law should be without mercy however justice can be rendered with mercy, especially if it warrants it. For example, I once mentioned how the sentence of an old poor man who stole food to eat was lessened for example. His sentence was quite lessened. That's justice rendered with mercy 💤

Meanwhile, there's Nothing wrong in God using a human vessel. He created Human in his own image to begin with. In fact, Human is simply the manifestation of the world created by God. The Names of God according to the Yoruba are Olorun, Oluwa, Ela, Olodumare etc for example. Let me talk about Ela and Olodumare. Ela and Olodumare are simply God's attributes. Translation of Olodumare means owner of the vacuum/womb of infinite creations while Ela means light or Word in the sense of Enlightenment and Wisdom. This Ela (God's word) is the one who ensure the manifestation of the several infinite creations present in the womb/vacuum of God, thereby creating Obatala (light) and Oduduwa (black matter) which created the world. Human was also created through this means because human was moulded from the earth formed. So the world and the Human are simply pieces of Olodumare which become manifestated. So who says God shouldn't come through his own piece again? Who gives such directive to God that he can't manifest through his own piece/creation which is a manifestation of himself? Are you reasoning at all? Ela, which is God's word/wisdom that ensured the several manifestations simply manifested through God's creation to depict God's nature which is mercy, wisdom, kindness and salvation while he justifies. The human representation was called the begotten son of God. Ifa calls it Ela, the word of God; or Jewesun, the lamb as the begotten child of God or word of God.

Tbh, Yoruba ifa illustration does enlighten to make some things more clearer, just like the above I just stated. IFA is also accurate on the concept of the world creation. Light (Obatala ) and black matter (Oduduwa ) formed the world like IFA stated. First human was a black man too.

On further note, when Ogun came for example, he depicted the nature of Ogun cosmos which represent iron, innovation and bravery. He was a warrior and a blacksmith who dealt in iron works. Also a rum maker. In today's age and civilization, that should be metallurgy, mechanical engines/engineers, chemical industries, automobiles, boxers, defence warriors who defend one's territory against terrorists etc..

Sango also depicted his cosmos nature on earth.

So the Orishas are simply intelligence and creative talents embedded within human which align with whichever of the cosmos that formed the earth. That's why the Orishas are both humans and cosmos, just like the Yoruba ancestors like Ogun, Sango, Oya, Olokun, Obatala, Oduduwa, Oshun etc showcased their cosmos natures 📌

Kobojunkie:
An eternal Law abolished? WOW.... you are just a river manufacturing contradictions for free, aren't you?

2. The same Jesus Christ who swore that not a jot of the Law will disappear even if Heaven and Earth do, but here you want us to believe Jesus Christ lied, and it is the same lying Jesus Christ that your savior Paul redeemed with his new claims? Na wa ooo!

Jesus never lied. He said that not a single jot will pass from the Law UNTIL IT IS FULFILLED.

Notice the phrase in capital letters.

But the Law has been fulfilled and set aside for grace. The word fulfil means to bring to a justified end or to meet it's requirements.

To clearly understand the meaning of the word fulfil in this context, let's use the example of a student who is about to graduate from the University. He is supposed to write a project in partial fulfillment of his requirements for graduation. When he submits the project work he has met the requirements and free to graduate.

In the same sense, Jesus came to meet the requirements of the Law which demanded that the soul that sin must die. And it is the blood that makes atonement for sin. Jesus died and paid the price for our sins. He met the requirements of the Law of Moses. And through the new life he gives us, we can now fulfil the righteous requirements of the Law which was not possible under the Old Testament.

So, the Law has been fulfilled and brought to a justified end. We are now under grace. So, no one is required to keep the Law of Moses anymore. Those who attempt to do it are the ones committing sins and placing a curse on themselves.

Ken4Christ:
■ Jesus never lied. He said that not a single jot will pass from the Law UNTIL IT IS FULFILLED. Notice the phrase in capital letters. But the Law has been fulfilled and set aside for grace. The word fulfil means to bring to a justified end or to meet it's requirements. To clearly understand the meaning of the word fulfil in this context, let's use the example of a student who is about to graduate from the University. He is supposed to write a project in partial fulfillment of his requirements for graduation. When he submits the project work he has met the requirements and free to graduate.
In the same sense, Jesus came to meet the requirements of the Law which demanded that the soul that sin must die. And it is the blood that makes atonement for sin. Jesus died and paid the price for our sins. He met the requirements of the Law of Moses. And through the new life he gives us, we can now fulfil the righteous requirements of the Law which was not possible under the Old Testament.
So, the Law has been fulfilled and brought to a justified end. We are now under grace. So, no one is required to keep the Law of Moses anymore. Those who attempt to do it are the ones committing sins and placing a curse on themselves.

1. Oh! I notice the words in capitals, words that indicate you have absolutely no clue what Jesus Christ said as you continue to spin tales in your head to venerate the one you value over Jesus Christ.

17 “Don’t think that I have come to destroy the Law of Moses or the teaching of the prophets. I have come not to destroy their teachings but to give full meaning to them.
18 I assure you that nothing will disappear from the law until heaven and earth are gone. The law will not lose even the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter until it has all been done.
19 “A person should obey every command in the law, even one that does not seem important. Whoever refuses to obey any command and teaches others not to obey it will be the least important in God’s kingdom. But whoever obeys the law and teaches others to obey it will be great in God’s kingdom.
20 I tell you that you must do better than the teachers of the law and the Pharisees. If you are not more pleasing to God than they are, you will never enter God’s kingdom. - Matthew 7 vs 17 - 20

The Law hasn't be done. It has yet to be fulfilled. God has yet to gather back to His Israel His scattered Israel as He indicated He would in the Law of Moses. God has yet to resurrect and reward His Israel with the Land He promised them. God has yet to Rebuild and rule the world via His Israel... I could go on and on and on regarding the parts of the Law that have yet to be fulfilled. But I doubt people like you care about these things but they are details contained in the Book of the Law that you care absolutely nothing for since God is not your focus.

I truly cannot begin to understand the reason why you folks spin these ridiculous tales filled with logical fallacies around yourselves. What benefit do you gain from these tales you spin around yourselves? Certainly, from where I sit they have only served as evidence that your mind is uselessly tangled up in religious lies. What you gain from these lies... I can't begin to understand at all.

Kobojunkie:
1. Oh! I notice the words in capitals, words that indicate you have absolutely no clue what Jesus Christ said as you continue to spin tales in your head to venerate the one you value over Jesus Christ.
The Law hasn't be done. It has yet to be fulfilled. God has yet to gather back to His Israel His scattered Israel as He indicated He would in the Law of Moses. God has yet to resurrect and reward His Israel with the Land He promised them. God has yet to Rebuild and rule the world via His Israel... I could go on and on and on regarding the parts of the Law that have yet to be fulfilled. But I doubt people like you care about these things but they are details contained in the Book of the Law that you care absolutely nothing for since God is not your focus.

I truly cannot begin to understand the reason why you folks spin these ridiculous tales filled with logical fallacies around yourselves. What benefit do you gain from these tales you spin around yourselves? Certainly, from where I sit they have only served as evidence that your mind is uselessly tangled up in religious lies. What you gain from these lies... I can't begin to understand at all.

But there are overwhelming evidences in the scripture to prove that the Law has ended or it's fulfilled.

What you are quoting in is about the prophecies concerning Israel. The Law and Prophecies are not the same.

Ken4Christ:
■ But there are overwhelming evidences in the scripture to prove that the Law has ended or it's fulfilled.
■ What you are quoting in is about the prophecies concerning Israel. The Law and Prophecies are not the same.

1. No such evidence exists in Scripture. It all seems to exist oniy in your mind though.

2. What I am quoting is about the prophecies regarding Israel? The Law and prophecies are not the same? Scripture was written by people who were all of the blood of Jacob aka Israel and these all people who lived under the Law and prophets and so spoke of what they knew. But here you continue to assert ideas completely different from the message recorded by the writers, why? Do you have your own scripture or something?