₦airaland Forum

RenaissanceGuy:
What does not being independent have to do with development?? Did they tell you that the British government put all of us in non-development while they were here?? Who built the earliest power plants, motorable roads, universities?? Was in not 1997 Britain left Hong Kong, and Hong Kong is currently one of the most developed countries in the world??

Tellmeastory:
SEE, THIS IS THE IGNORANCE I HATE ON THIS FORUM.

This dude just compared Nigeria to UAE!

UAE!

The UAE has 100 billion barrels of oil reserves, exporting 3.2 million barrels per day, with a population of 9 million people.

Nigeria has 37 billion barrels of oil reserves, exporting 1.5 million barrels per day, with a population of 240 million people.

But this guy thinks Nigeria should be “like UAE”.

IN FACT I GIVE UP ON THIS FORUM.

meum:
This is the ignorance I hate in this forum. You don’t compare yourself with never do wells and expect to make it. Compare yourself with those that have made it & see yourself starting to be like them. You might not be 100% like them but you’ll be on the path to being like them.
UAE was brought in to prove that age isn’t an excuse. Learn to read and comprehend before saying how ignorant other people are.

Tellmeastory:
The first power plant in Nigeria was Kainji Dam, commissioned in 1964.
Nigeria’s first university was established in 1962, two years after independence.
The British did a big fat Zero in their time here.
This country only began to develop from the 1960s! There are people alive today who were FULL-GROWN ADULTS WITH KIDS, when Nigeria gained independence! This is an extremely YOUNG nation.

RenaissanceGuy:
What about the Nigerian Electricity Supply Company established in 1929? What about the UI and UNN established in 1948 and 1960 respectively??

Tellmeastory:
It is the HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE and IDIOCY to compare yourself to a country that has 100 times more money than you, by virtue of their tiny population and gigantic oil wealth.


If Nigeria will advance, it will NOT be because of oil wealth. The oil income is a PITTANCE for our huge population.

Tellmeastory:
Where do you live that you “go for weeks without power”, you liar?

What I detest is the way you people always exaggerate whatever problem it is, to make it ten times worse, because you’re sick people.

As for Indonesia, they are not way ahead of Nigeria. Their GDP per capita is $4,300 and Nigeria’s is $2,300.

Indonesia got independence in 1945, and are 87% Sunni Muslim, so less friction in society unlike Naija.

Tellmeastory:
Electricity supply company!

Which power plants did they build?

Or you don’t know the British simply imported industrial generators to light up the Ikoyi and GRAs their colonial officials were living?

You guys don’t know anything!

The reason you have ANY modernity around you today is that Nigerians came to power in 1960, and began building the country, from schools to roads to factories etc.

Minus that, you would all be illiterate village farmers and palmwine tappers right now.

RenaissanceGuy:
There's no such thing as money. It's invention and putting your brain to work that produces prosperity. How many barrel of oil do Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Belgium, Germany have?? If it's all about having natural resources, Congo and Niger should be rubbing shoulders with the likes of France and US. When you rely on outsiders to come with so-called FDI how would you develop??

Tellmeastory:
It is the HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE and IDIOCY to compare yourself to a country that has 100 times more money than you, by virtue of their tiny population and gigantic oil wealth.

It shows your head is not correct!

If Nigeria will advance, it will NOT be because of oil wealth. The oil income is a PITTANCE for our huge population.

Tellmeastory:
Because Nigeria has 240 million people, it's harder.

Same issue with India and Pakistan.

Togo and Ghana have more steady light than India.

It is easier, cheaper, and quicker to power up a small country of 5 million to 30 million people versus one of 240 million or 1.2 billion.
I guess u forgot china has steady power,even Russia...una go just dey talk

It's really that simple!

By the way, USA, Britain, Germany, Russia etc have been independent for several CENTURIES, versus Naija's 60 years. It makes no sense saying we should be like them by now.

Imagine comparing yourselves to countries that have been independent for over 350 years!

You will just give yourself unnecessary blood pressure.

meum:
You must be a f0.0l to insult someone over a simple discourse. Say what you have to say & stop showing the world how uncouth you are!

What stops Nigeria from advancing with proceeds from oil? The only problem Nigeria has is corruption. Let there be a death penalty law for corruption/looting of government money & watch how oil proceeds will be invested well.

If you must respond do so without insult(s).

Tellmeastory:
Where do you live that you “go for weeks without power”, you liar?

What I detest is the way you people always exaggerate whatever problem it is, to make it ten times worse, because you’re sick people.

As for Indonesia, they are not way ahead of Nigeria. Their GDP per capita is $4,300 and Nigeria’s is $2,300.

Indonesia got independence in 1945, and are 87% Sunni Muslim, so less friction in society unlike Naija.
So it is friction that has made the country so useless

meum:
Why do you people like comparing this giant of Africa with these kind of countries?

USA, Britain, Russia, France, Spain, Germany etc are giants. These are the giants you guys should be comparing with an African giant.

Okay if they seem too big let’s come down to Africa. I know Ghana is not a giant in Africa but try & compare Ghana with Nigeria & see how Nigeria is. Ghana beats the African giant hands down on stable power. Even small Togo is doing well.

Exousiang01:
When these countries were producing cars and sophisticated weapons of warfare, building trains etc our ancestors were selling their brothers in exchange for a piece of mirror....
A mirror was what was classified as technology, something important enough to be exchanged for a whole human being.
So tell me again how we are mates?....
Don't get me wrong, we are supposed to have advanced beyond this stage, I am not supporting our current state as a Nation, but you cannot compare us with the countries you have mentioned

RenaissanceGuy:
Please give up because your logic is flawed. What about countries that do not have crude oil at all?? Who prevented Nigeria from utilizing the prosperity from oil to develop the manufacturing, agricultural and tech sector like the countries we call developed today did??

tuzle:
I can vouch for him that there are some places in Nigeria that see light once or twice in a week. Early this year, I was at asero abeokuta for a week and throughout my stay, I didn't see nepa light. They are fully dependent on solar because of how bad electricity is. I am not counting midnight light here because most times I slept by 1am and woke up by 5am. Whether they brought the light during the period I was asleep, I don't know.

Tellmeastory:
IF YOU REFUSE TO USE YOUR HEAD, THAT’S what you get.

THE OIL INCOME IS A PITTANCE.

That is the simple point that is like rocket science for you people.

Nigeria’s annual budget for 240 million people is $35 billion.

That includes the oil income!

The US annual budget for its 300 million people is 8 TRILLION DOLLARS.

Still think you’re a rich country because you “have oil”?

You ain’t gat shiiiiit!

THAT IS THE POINT.

Even with ZERO corruption, we will still struggle BIG TIME, until we expand the economy to earn more as a nation.

But if you have a mindset of “Oh, if only they stop stealing the oil money, we will be like America and UAE and Japan”, you will never get ANYWHERE.

Because the oil income ain’t shiiiit!!!

Tellmeastory:
Because Nigeria has 240 million people, it's harder.

Same issue with India and Pakistan.

Togo and Ghana have more steady light than India.

It is easier, cheaper, and quicker to power up a small country of 5 million to 30 million people versus one of 240 million or 1.2 billion.

It's really that simple!

By the way, USA, Britain, Germany, Russia etc have been independent for several CENTURIES, versus Naija's 60 years. It makes no sense saying we should be like them by now.

Imagine comparing yourselves to countries that have been independent for over 350 years!

You will just give yourself unnecessary blood pressure.

Tellmeastory:
Why will India not have a trillion dollar economy with a larger population than AFRICA?

Africa in total has a 3 trillion dollar economy.

As of 2023, the GDP of Africa was estimated at roughly 3.1 trillion U.S. dollars. This was the highest value since 2010 when the continent's GDP amounted to approximately 2.1 trillion U.S. dollars


https://www.statista.com/statistics/1300858/total-gdp-value-in-africa/#:~:text=Gross%20Domestic%20Product%20(GDP)%20in%20Africa%202010%2D2027&text=As%20of%202023%2C%20the%20GDP,approximately%202.1%20trillion%20U.S.%20dollars.

...

And stop mentioning already developed countries like America.

Do you know the US annual budget?

8 TRILLION DOLLARS.

Tellmeastory:
Because Nigeria has 240 million people, it's harder.

Same issue with India and Pakistan.

Togo and Ghana have more steady light than India.

It is easier, cheaper, and quicker to power up a small country of 5 million to 30 million people versus one of 240 million or 1.2 billion.

It's really that simple!

By the way, USA, Britain, Germany, Russia etc have been independent for several CENTURIES, versus Naija's 60 years. It makes no sense saying we should be like them by now.

Imagine comparing yourselves to countries that have been independent for over 350 years!

You will just give yourself unnecessary blood pressure.

Tellmeastory:
Another SIMPLETON.

You live in Delhi, but you are vouching for the whole of India, of 1.5 billion people?

Where and where have been outside Delhi?

Just return to whatever you’re doing.

This thread is not your level.

Misterone:
Togo with a population not more than that of Onitsha, Ghana is not up to Lagos

meum:
Aren’t we the giant of Africa? Shouldn’t we be compared with other giants in different continents? How are giants not mates? Giants are mates.

Exousiang01:
You wrote this reply on my comment?
Did you even read to understand what I wrote you are just slow.

Tellmeastory:
Most developing countries like Nigeria have power supply issues.

It's important that even as we strive to address this knotty issue, we do not lose sight of the fact that it is not a uniquely Nigerian debacle, and is a challenge faced by just about every other developing nation, especially those approaching Nigeria's size and population.



Load shedding in India

''In 2022, the state of Rajasthan was forced to introduce load shedding for industrial and residential consumers as the country dealt with the worst power crisis it has seen in years. Parts of India experienced rolling blackouts for up to 10 hours or, in more remote areas, 12 hours a day. Damaging fuel shortages have resulted in the shutdown of three power plants in Punjab alone. Reuters predicts that India will continue experiencing widespread blackouts.''

https://sambadenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/power-cut.jpeg

Load shedding in Pakistan

''Pakistan continues to grapple with prolonged and unscheduled power cuts. The country’s severe electricity crisis has hit both rural and urban areas with Karachi experiencing no power for up to 15 hours and Lahore going without power for nearly 12 hours. Although officials had announced a plan to conserve energy, there does not seem to be any reprieve from prolonged darkness.''


Load shedding in Lebanon

''Lebanon is another country that has been plagued with widespread blackouts. This is a result of an economic crisis that the World Bank has dubbed as one of the “most severe crisis episodes globally since the mid-nineteenth century”.

Fuel shortages and, according to the New York Times, a “dysfunctional” energy sector are to blame for the power cuts. Similar to the situation in South Africa, power outages are simply a part of Lebanese life. In the last year, these issues have resulted in state-supplied electricity only coming on for one or two hours a day........''.

Power cut, Lebanon
https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi_com/2671633792924/2021/1/85a07346192406042b2c3ac946a401bf/Most-of-Lebanon-without-power-after-plants-run-out-of-fuel.jpg


Load shedding in Sri Lanka

''Sri Lanka has been experiencing months of daily power cuts amid an economic crisis, which famously saw thousands of protestors storming the president’s home.

The breakdown of a hydropower plant and lack of diesel fuel has led to an increase in load shedding episodes. Currently, Ceylon Electricity Board (CEB) cannot meet the country’s electricity demand due to an islandwide lack of electricity supply.''


Load shedding in South Africa

''South Africa has been load shedding for 14 years. 2022 has seen its biggest power crisis reaching up to stage six of its rolling blackout system. Businesses are experiencing power cuts for up to six hours a day and have been warned to expect load shedding for another two to three years. There are two main reasons for load shedding in South Africa. The first is the lack of installed electricity generation capacity that cannot meet the demand, outlined in this article. The next problem is that the available energy is far below the demand for electricity, which is why load shedding occurs.''

South Africa Power Cut
https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/08/14/69/48/1024x538_cmsv2_269221e2-665c-5f1d-b339-70fb23d51356-8146948.jpg

https://elum-energy.com/blog/major-countries-with-load-shedding/

meum:
I can see your case is irredeemable. Uncouthness flows in your veins.

Did you say with zero corruption Nigeria will still struggle? I would like to see that struggling Nigeria with zero corruption but with great leaders who will invest the proceeds of oil & grow the economy.

Did you say Nigeria is poor? I put it to you Nigeria isn’t poor.

If oil income ain’t sh!!t like you put it, then why is the budget hinged on oil proceeds?

Tellmeastory:
Another SIMPLETON.

You live in Delhi, but you are vouching for the whole of India, of 1.5 billion people?

Where and where have been outside Delhi?

Just return to whatever you’re doing.

This thread is not your level.

rationalhuman:
I live in 4 states of India back in my university days (their one state is like a country in itself) and i can confirm, Powercuts were rare and did not last more then 10 minutes and if your state have good power distributer like Torrent etc then you dont even get 5 minutes power cut. India is power surplus nation, i pity the ignorance of some people who has never been outside their villages.

Tellmeastory:
Where do you live that you “go for weeks without power”, you liar?

Tellmeastory:
What I detest is the way you people always exaggerate whatever problem it is, to make it ten times worse, because you’re sick people.

Tellmeastory:
As for Indonesia, they are not way ahead of Nigeria. Their GDP per capita is $4,300 and Nigeria’s is $2,300.

Tellmeastory:
Indonesia got independence in 1945, and are 87% Sunni Muslim, so less friction in society unlike Naija.

meum:
You wrote this reply on my comment?
It’s obvious you have a comprehension problem. Too slow for this generation.

Tellmeastory:
Dude, South Africa’s annual budget is $125 billion for its 60 million people.

Nigeria, with its “great oil wealth” (in your heads) has an annual budget of $35 billion for its 240 million people.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that the oil income is GROSSLY INSUFFICIENT even with ZERO corruption.

And instead of stupidly fighting over access to the crude oil money, you should be diversifying your income sources like your lives depended on it.

Indonesia makes over $27 billion a year exporting PALM OIL.

Why aren’t we doing that?

We even have more palm oil than crude oil!