immortalcrown:
You answered the first question and try to divert from the rest.

The essence of the second question is to show that factories make more profit than retailers. This emphasis is even attached to the question. No sincere and sane person will read that question and conclude it implies that retailers employ workers.

You craftily try to use the North to answer the 3rd question. Cost of living in this period of inflation is cheaper in the North. Your use of the North here is like someone using the retail price of sachet water within sachet water factories to deny the fact that sachet water is sold ₦50 outside the factories. So, you are yet to present facts against my comment.

I answered all your questions directly unless u are not sincere.
I used the north to butress the point that u fóIks are ripping urseIves, factory price in the north is #200 in the south it's #300.
Retailer price in the north is #250-#300 in the south it's hitting #1000, why?
If not greedîñess.
Dudu Osun soap if I'm not mistaken is manufactured down south, why is it cheaper in the north compared to south?
U made reference to #2000 profit per bag, anybody selling pure as a retailer sells 5 bags of pure water per day at the very least.
This is where break even analysis comes in.
U all rip urselves with every single thing in the market and come to defend it that the next person is doing it because this one is expensive, all because u don't like the government.
I answered all ur questions directly, maybe u think u are deaIing with a duIIard that's crude in business.
No!!!
You are not, I have been doing business since 2009, in 2009 I broke free from my family business and my mother was angry that I did, but today she's happy that I did.
In my line of manufacturing, I see people who spent #1,200 in producing a unit but will sell it for #3,500.
If it's not greed, why would u do that?
People like u will defend them whole heartedly because u don't like Tinubu.

JagabanB:

I answered all your questions directly unless u are not sincere.
I used the north to butress the point that u fóIks are ripping urseIves, factory price in the north is #200 in the south it's #300.
Retailer price in the north is #250-#300 in the south it's hitting #1000, why?
If not greedîñess.
Dudu Osun soap if I'm not mistaken is manufactured down south, why is it cheaper in the north compared to south?
U made reference to #2000 profit per bag, anybody selling pure as a retailer sells 5 bags of pure water per day at the very least.
This is where break even analysis comes in.
U all rip urselves with every single thing in the market and come to defend it that the next person is doing it because this one is expensive, all because u don't like the government.
I answered all ur questions directly, maybe u think u are deaIing with a duIIard that's crude in business.
No!!!
You are not, I have been doing business since 2009, in 2009 I broke free from my family business and my mother was angry that I did, but today she's happy that I did.
In my line of manufacturing, I see people who spent #1,200 in producing a unit but will sell it for #3,500.
If it's not greed, why would u do that?
People like u will defend them whole heartedly because u don't like Tinubu.

You have not been able to explain how the profit sachet water retailers made in the past can sustain the retailers now. My point is that cost of living compels the retailers to increase retail price, and you have not been able to debunk the claim.

It is illogical for you to use the North to defend yourself. Most food items are produced in the North and sold cheaper in the same North. If you want to use the North to challenge my comment, start by proving that most food items are not produced and distributed at cheaper rates in the North.

You answered the first question and try to divert from the rest. That first question is for you to understand that bulk sales give factories more profits despite how much retailers gain per bag. That question does not in any way imply that I don't know the meaning of bulk sales. So, stop ranting nonsense.

The essence of the second question is to show that factories make more profit than retailers. This emphasis is even attached to the question. Maybe I didn't phrase the question well. Now, let me explain that 2nd question. Assuming the retailers have employees, can the profit the retailers make pay each of the employees 15k or 20k monthly? This question is to reveal that the factories sell in bulk and make more profits.

You craftily try to use the North to answer the 3rd question. Cost of living in this period of inflation is cheaper in the North. How much is a cup of Rice in that North and how much is a cup of Rice in an area where a sachet of water costs ₦50? Answer this question since you want to use the North to defend yourself.

So, you are yet to present facts against my comment.

immortalcrown:
You have not been able to explain how the profit sachet water retailers made in the past can sustain the retailers now. My point is that cost of living compels the retailers to increase retail price, and you have not been able to debunk the claim.

It is illogical for you to use the North to defend yourself. Most food items are produced in the North and sold cheaper in the same North. If you want to use the North to challenge my comment, start by proving that most food items are not produced and distributed at cheaper rates in the North.

You answered the first question and try to divert from the rest. That first question is for you to understand that bulk sales give factories more profits despite how much retailers gain per bag. That question does not in any way imply that I don't know the meaning of bulk sales. So, stop ranting nonsense.

The essence of the second question is to show that factories make more profit than retailers. This emphasis is even attached to the question. Maybe I didn't phrase the question well. Now, let me explain that 2nd question. Assuming the retailers have employees, can the profit the retailers make pay each of the employees 15k or 20k monthly? This question is to reveal that the factories sell in bulk and make more profits.

You craftily try to use the North to answer the 3rd question. Cost of living in this period of inflation is cheaper in the North. How much is a cup of Rice in that North and how much is a cup of Rice in an area where a sachet of water costs ₦50? Answer this question since you want to use the North to defend yourself.

So, you are yet to present facts against my comment.

I am not expecting a retailer that bought a bag of water at #100 and sold for #10 each to sell same bag of water #10 each when he buys it for #300.
What I'm also not expecting is that a retailer will buy a bag for #300 and sell it for #1000.
That's criminaIiity, ur emotions won't justify it.
I gave an example with dudu Osun that's manufactured down south and sold cheaper in the north than in the south.
Why??
The north is part of Nigeria, subsidy removal, rising cost of living also affects the north, why do u foIks down south prefer ripping urselves out?
Why?
Manufacturers make more profit and make more expenditure.
Manufacturers face rising cost of living just as retailers do.
I have no idea how much a cup of rice is because I don't buy rice in cups so I can't really answer you on that.
Let's assume a cup of rice is #200 in the south and then it's some around #100-#120 in the north, the rice seller in the north can decide to take it to #250, the water seller in the north can also decide to take his water to #1000 and chains of effects will take place, but they are not doing, u do it in the south and defend it.
I was in the south, both a bottle of fearless for #500, came down to the north, bought it for #250.
That's exactly half the price it was down south, south-south to be precise.
Today, fearless is #350 in the north, only God knows how much it is down south now.
Is it produced in the north?
Palm oil from the south is more affordable in the north, why?
The south has a knack for rippîñg each other apart for same commodity and bIame the government, it's same thing with sugar and cement whereas sugar factories are in the South.

JagabanB:

I am not expecting a retailer that bought a bag of water at #100 and sold for #10 each to sell same bag of water #10 each when he buys it for #300.
What I'm also not expecting is that a retailer will buy a bag for #300 and sell it for #1000.
That's criminaIiity, ur emotions won't justify it.
I gave an example with dudu Osun that's manufactured down south and sold cheaper in the north than in the south.
Why??
The north is part of Nigeria, subsidy removal, rising cost of living also affects the north, why do u foIks down south prefer ripping urselves out?
Why?
Manufacturers make more profit and make more expenditure.
Manufacturers face rising cost of living just as retailers do.
I have no idea how much a cup of rice is because I don't buy rice in cups so I can't really answer you on that.
Let's assume a cup of rice is #200 in the south and then it's some around #100-#120 in the north, the rice seller in the north can decide to take it to #250, the water seller in the north can also decide to take his water to #1000 and chains of effects will take place, but they are not doing, u do it in the south and defend it.
I was in the south, both a bottle of fearless for #500, came down to the north, bought it for #250.
That's exactly half the price it was down south, south-south to be precise.
Today, fearless is #350 in the north, only God knows how much it is down south now.
Is it produced in the north?
Palm oil from the south is more affordable in the north, why?
The south has a knack for rippîñg each other apart for same commodity and bIame the government, it's same thing with sugar and cement whereas sugar factories are in the South.

You have not presented any fact against my comment. You could not prove what I asked you to prove. The conclusion of my point is that the current cost of living justifies the increase in retail prices of things, and you have not been able to debunk the point. You are just responding with too many unnecessary sentences. Your responses are not focused on debunking my claims.

immortalcrown:
You have not presented any fact against my comment. You could not prove what I asked you to prove. The conclusion of my point is that the current cost of living justifies the increase in retail prices of things, and you have not been able to debunk the point. You are just responding with too many unnecessary sentences. Your responses are not focused on debunking my claims.

You listed points, I replied them judiciously.
Increase in price is justified, that's settled.
Selling what u bought at #300 for #1000 is not justified, it's criminaIity, if u refuse to accept this, just know that u are an ènemy of the society.
U said what #300 was able to buy, #1000 can't buy presently, I countered with examples, u left that part, u talked about manufacturers making more profits u ignored the part that they make more expenses too.
U said food is cheap in the north because it is produced in the north, I cited examples of things produced down south that are cheaper in same north compared to the southern market.
So tell me, are u really looking for facts or sèntiments?
U simply don't know what "facts" represent if u can say I'm not countering u with facts.

JagabanB:

You listed points, I replied them judiciously.
Increase in price is justified, that's settled.
Selling what u bought at #300 for #1000 is not justified, it's criminaIity, if u refuse to accept this, just know that u are an ènemy of the society.
U said what #300 was able to buy, #1000 can't buy presently, I countered with examples, u left that part, u talked about manufacturers making more profits u ignored the part that they make more expenses too.
U said food is cheap in the north because it is produced in the north, I cited examples of things produced down south that are cheaper in same north compared to the southern market.
So tell me, are u really looking for facts or sèntiments?
U simply don't know what "facts" represent if u can say I'm not countering u with facts.

You are the one using sentiments here. Otherwise, explain how the retailers can survive with ₦200 or ₦300 profit per bag. You are the one using sentiments here. Otherwise, answer the repeated question of the difference between a cup of Rice a few months before Christmas and the price of a cup of Rice now.

Namaster:
In Nigeria, 20% of our problem is from bad leaders. The remaining 80% is from fellow Nigerians.

Take my experience at a Teaching Hospital last year.

Around the first week of December, I was a little unwell. Took myself to the Teaching Hospital in question. Got there and met 3 nurses at the reception. Was asked a few questions in order to open a file and get a hospital card.

Before I knew it the nurse attending to me whipped out a big carton and told me to "do Christmas for us". Another nurse remarked that my file would never get to a doctor if I don't tip them.

I was shocked!

Imagine extorting money from sick and helpless people. Some of whom will receive news that they are sick with illnesses that'll cost them a fortune to treat. Or that they were going to die.

My heart broke that day. I wanted to pick up the carton and slam it into the fat heads of the corrupt criminals masquerading as nurses that day. But my strength failed me.

If you think Nigerian Politicians are wicked, just know that Nigerians make them look like Gandhi.

To know Nigerians is to hate Nigerians.

typical nigerian. How dare you give those evil men 20 percent. We dont like holding our leaders to account. Those nurses are probably poorly paid. Many nigerians try to survive from bribes, stealing. It is an institutional thing. Please,let us face our common enemy.

Namaster:
In Nigeria, 20% of our problem is from bad leaders. The remaining 80% is from fellow Nigerians.

Take my experience at a Teaching Hospital last year.

Around the first week of December, I was a little unwell. Took myself to the Teaching Hospital in question. Got there and met 3 nurses at the reception. Was asked a few questions in order to open a file and get a hospital card.

Before I knew it the nurse attending to me whipped out a big carton and told me to "do Christmas for us". Another nurse remarked that my file would never get to a doctor if I don't tip them.

I was shocked!

Imagine extorting money from sick and helpless people. Some of whom will receive news that they are sick with illnesses that'll cost them a fortune to treat. Or that they were going to die.

My heart broke that day. I wanted to pick up the carton and slam it into the fat heads of the corrupt criminals masquerading as nurses that day. But my strength failed me.

If you think Nigerian Politicians are wicked, just know that Nigerians make them look like Gandhi.

To know Nigerians is to hate Nigerians.

That could even be described as cruel.

Even though they wouldn't dare prevent your file from reaching the doctor, such jocular request is still 'extortion'.

The future of Nigeria largely lies in the reorientation of most of the people.
If no systematic way to achieve such is developed, it may take at least half a century even with good leadership to achieve such.

jesmond3945:
typical nigerian. How dare you give those evil men 20 percent. We dont like holding our leaders to account. Those nurses are probably poorly paid. Many nigerians try to survive from bribes, stealing. It is an institutional thing. Please,let us face our common enemy.

But your 'common enemy' emerges from the set of people who institutionalise stealing and bribery as a way of life or survival.

socialmediaman:


There’s this 80 - 20 rule in business (also called the Pareto principle) which states that 80% of consequences come from 20% of causes.

If this rule is applied theoretically in this case, it means that politicians not doing their jobs is the cause of most of the problems in the society. A single issue like corruption alone can result in 90% of the problems in Nigeria, and it’s because law enforcement has refused to do their jobs

Focus on your politicians if you want to solve the country’s problems.

If law enforcement and politicians in advanced countries become as corrupt as Nigerian politicians, and citizens like you focus more on their fellow citizens instead of politicians, those countries will become like Nigeria with time

You are educated in the real sense of it .

immortalcrown:
You have not presented any fact against my comment. You could not prove what I asked you to prove. The conclusion of my point is that the current cost of living justifies the increase in retail prices of things, and you have not been able to debunk the point. You are just responding with too many unnecessary sentences. Your responses are not focused on debunking my claims.

Let me break it down for everyone.

. We still have people selling at 2 satchets for #50. If what you have in a bag are 20 satchets . If you divide #300 by 20 it gives 15naira. You ice it and all that. That should give a figure of around #17

#17 * 20= #340

Selling at 50 naira each gives #1000. That's a difference of about #660 per bag.

If you sell at two for #50. That's #25 for a satchet. That's #500 and a profit of #160.

Now you people should judge if (a) #660 profit on a bag is too much.

(b) if #160 profit on a bag is not too small.

predictor1:
Let me break it down for everyone.

. We still have people selling at 2 satchets for #50. If what you have in a bag are 20 satchets . If you divide #300 by 20 it gives 15naira. You ice it and all that. That should give a figure of around #17

#17 * 20= #340

Selling at 50 naira each gives #1000. That's a difference of about #660 per bag.

If you sell at two for #50. That's #25 for a satchet. That's #500 and a profit of #160.

Now you people should judge if (a) #660 profit on a bag is too much.

(b) if #160 profit on a bag is not too small.

Is the ₦1,000 outrageous as profit, considering the current cost of living? Why have you been dodging my question of the price differences between a few months before Christmas and now? Answer the question let us see if the increase in sachet water retail profit is higher than the increase in cost of living. Why have you been dodging the challenge of using the current cost of living to show how ₦1,000 is too much?

JagabanB:

I am not expecting a retailer that bought a bag of water at #100 and sold for #10 each to sell same bag of water #10 each when he buys it for #300.
What I'm also not expecting is that a retailer will buy a bag for #300 and sell it for #1000.
That's criminaIiity, ur emotions won't justify it.
I gave an example with dudu Osun that's manufactured down south and sold cheaper in the north than in the south.
Why??
The north is part of Nigeria, subsidy removal, rising cost of living also affects the north, why do u foIks down south prefer ripping urselves out?
Why?
Manufacturers make more profit and make more expenditure.
Manufacturers face rising cost of living just as retailers do.
I have no idea how much a cup of rice is because I don't buy rice in cups so I can't really answer you on that.
Let's assume a cup of rice is #200 in the south and then it's some around #100-#120 in the north, the rice seller in the north can decide to take it to #250, the water seller in the north can also decide to take his water to #1000 and chains of effects will take place, but they are not doing, u do it in the south and defend it.
I was in the south, both a bottle of fearless for #500, came down to the north, bought it for #250.
That's exactly half the price it was down south, south-south to be precise.
Today, fearless is #350 in the north, only God knows how much it is down south now.
Is it produced in the north?
Palm oil from the south is more affordable in the north, why?
The south has a knack for rippîñg each other apart for same commodity and bIame the government, it's same thing with sugar and cement whereas sugar factories are in the South.

My brother, my own is to understand the root cause of the level of greed in many parts of the South.
It is not even an argument.

successmatters:


Buy your own pure water and hawk in the sun, let's see how low you will sell it

Give them a competition and don't sit here and complain. Go make your own millions hawking water.

SMH....

I

JagabanB:

I am not expecting a retailer that bought a bag of water at #100 and sold for #10 each to sell same bag of water #10 each when he buys it for #300.
What I'm also not expecting is that a retailer will buy a bag for #300 and sell it for #1000.
That's criminaIiity, ur emotions won't justify it.
I gave an example with dudu Osun that's manufactured down south and sold cheaper in the north than in the south.
Why??
The north is part of Nigeria, subsidy removal, rising cost of living also affects the north, why do u foIks down south prefer ripping urselves out?
Why?
Manufacturers make more profit and make more expenditure.
Manufacturers face rising cost of living just as retailers do.
I have no idea how much a cup of rice is because I don't buy rice in cups so I can't really answer you on that.
Let's assume a cup of rice is #200 in the south and then it's some around #100-#120 in the north, the rice seller in the north can decide to take it to #250, the water seller in the north can also decide to take his water to #1000 and chains of effects will take place, but they are not doing, u do it in the south and defend it.
I was in the south, both a bottle of fearless for #500, came down to the north, bought it for #250.
That's exactly half the price it was down south, south-south to be precise.
Today, fearless is #350 in the north, only God knows how much it is down south now.
Is it produced in the north?
Palm oil from the south is more affordable in the north, why?
The south has a knack for rippîñg each other apart for same commodity and bIame the government, it's same thing with sugar and cement whereas sugar factories are in the South.

I totally agree with you on this, though they sell the cold pure water for 50 naira in abj but north Don't do the rubbish the south does.......

immortalcrown:
You are the one using sentiments here. Otherwise, explain how the retailers can survive with ₦200 or ₦300 profit per bag. You are the one using sentiments here. Otherwise, answer the repeated question of the difference between a cup of Rice a few months before Christmas and the price of a cup of Rice now.

what he said is the plain truth,some of us in the north are baffled at the prices we hear from the south even the products sold at shopping malls are fair even in Abuja. The ripping off in the South is too much.

immortalcrown:
Is the ₦1,000 outrageous as profit, considering the current cost of living? Why have you been dodging my question of the price differences between a few months before Christmas and now? Answer the question let us see if the increase in sachet water retail profit is higher than the increase in cost of living. Why have you been dodging the challenge of using the current cost of living to show how ₦1,000 is too much?

Maybe you can help us with the rate at which cost of living has increased. Then let's juxtapose.

Nobody is saying they should not increase prices but is #600 profit on a bag of water you bought at #300 not crazy?

Considering the fact that profit margins on most provision items are traditionally low. You may ask around if baffled.

predictor1:
Maybe you can help us with the rate at which cost of living has increased. Then let's juxtapose.

Nobody is saying they should not increase prices but is #600 profit on a bag of water you bought at #300 not crazy?

Considering the fact that profit margins on most provision items are traditionally low. You may ask around if baffled.

Bro stop wasting your time explaining to foolish people.......there are some moniker you should avoid on NL.
The one you replying is one of them.

JagabanB:

Nobody from my viIIage shót thèîr son because of food, none thrèw their kids away and ran into a moving vehicle.

Stop believing all the fake news you read on the internet so your deformed life can get better. Thanks.

predictor1:
Maybe you can help us with the rate at which cost of living has increased. Then let's juxtapose.

Nobody is saying they should not increase prices but is #600 profit on a bag of water you bought at #300 not crazy?

Considering the fact that profit margins on most provision items are traditionally low. You may ask around if baffled.

Stop disturbing us here because nobody is selling pure water here. Go and sell your cheaper, be a good Nigerian.

Stop making animal noise here.

successmatters:


Stop disturbing us here because nobody is selling pure water here. Go and sell your cheaper, be a good Nigerian.

Stop making animal noise here.

Human beings are talking here, not monkeys like you, please.

Pecoleee345:


Bro stop wasting your time explaining to foolish people.......there are some moniker you should avoid on NL.
The one you replying is one of them.

You are right. I'll stop responding to him forthwith; him and another monkey that quoted me saying nonsense somewhere above.

Just talkers everywhere, none of the people insisting on a sell rate knows anything about business.

Talkers everywhere.

predictor1:
You are right. I'll stop responding to him forthwith; him and another monkey that quoted me saying nonsense somewhere above.

Yes, stop responding so you stop disgracing yourself

predictor1:
Human beings are talking here, not monkeys like you, please.

Cheap people everywhere, expecting to be buying pure water for 5 naira in the government of drug dealers

Just prepare to drink a sachet for 200 naira, don't go and hustle hard, stay here and be pricing pure water, ordinary pure water

Wonder how you will be pricing baby food or drugs.

predictor1:
Maybe you can help us with the rate at which cost of living has increased. Then let's juxtapose.

Fuel price increased from ₦187 to ₦600 per litre, Rice increase from ₦35,000 to ₦75,000 per bag. Ice fish that cost less than ₦500 then now costs more than ₦1,000. The list can go on. Each price here increased by more than 100%. Deny this or admit you are trying to use sentiment against facts.

predictor1:
Nobody is saying they should not increase prices but is #600 profit on a bag of water you bought at #300 not crazy?

Join them in the business to know their net profit after expenses. You calculate the cost price per bag of sachet water as the only expense the retailers make.

predictor1:
Considering the fact that profit margins on most provision items are traditionally low. You may ask around if baffled.

My response to your first paragraph already counters this.

You were unable to explain how the current cost of living justifies or negates your claim. I have done it for you. I am waiting for your next response. It is just annoying that you beat around the bush in your responses.

Bizibi:
what he said is the plain truth,some of us in the north are baffled at the prices we hear from the south even the products sold at shopping malls are fair even in Abuja. The ripping off in the South is too much.

Until you prove that cost of living is the same in the North and in the South, you are illogical.

Pure water was N150 per bag until Tinubu did what he did. No dealer or retailer exploited people then so if you feel the price is high then tell Tinubu to undo what did let's see if the price won't drop to old price.

Tallesty1:
Pure water was N150 per bag until Tinubu did what he did. No dealer or retailer exploited people then so if you feel the price is high then tell Tinubu to undo what did let's see if the price won't drop to old price.

Simple and short.

successmatters:


Stop believing all the fake news you read on the internet so your deformed life can get better. Thanks.

Bring the original news to debunk the fake.

JagabanB:

Bring the original news to debunk the fake.

Just like the police station woman fake story which the police DPO and commissioner has come out to debunk that it never happened?

Stay there make pant be wearing you.

immortalcrown:
Fuel price increased from ₦187 to ₦600 per litre, Rice increase from ₦35,000 to ₦75,000 per bag. Ice fish that cost less than ₦500 then now costs more than ₦1,000. The list can go on. Each price here increased by more than 100%. Deny this or admit you are trying to use sentiment against facts.

Join them in the business to know their net profit after expenses. You calculate the cost price per bag of sachet water as the only expense the retailers make.

My response to your first paragraph already counters this.

You were unable to explain how the current cost of living justifies or negates your claim. I have done it for you. I am waiting for your next response. It is just annoying that you beat around the bush in your responses.

Let me respond to you quickly. I was going to ignore you but I sense you are smarter than the other one who is a complete monkey. That one doesn't deserve a response.

Let me ask you, since we are using water as an example. How much was a bag of water before it went to #300? It was #200. The increase was 50%. A satchet was #20. If you sell it for #50 now, that's an increase of 150%. Can you justify that beyond repeating the same mantra that price of a cup of rice has gone up.

I don't buy cup of rice, so how much were you buying your cup of rice in December compared to now? Since that's what you want to use as a reference point. Did it go up by 150%.

Many of your fellow "pure water" sellers are still selling at two for #50. That's #25 naira for one. If the pure water Hawking thing is not profitable enough, find something else to do instead of ripping stranded people off.

NaMe4:


My brother, my own is to understand the root cause of the level of greed in many parts of the South.
It is not even an argument.

They wóñ't address, they prefer to bIame.