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DeepSight:
A better way to put it would be to say that all that exists is the natural and unavoidable emanation or radiation of the source, through which it experiences itself and bears consciousness.

And what could this source be?

DeepSight:
You need to elucidate.

Because whilst all humans are not the same, certain fundamental properties are central to what it means to be human. So one would not be wrong to say, for example, that all humans have red blood.

Sentience, sapience, these are integral to the nature of humanity. So is spirituality - regardless that some may be more or less spiritually inclined than others.

You forgot to add that Sapience and sentience is in heightened degrees in dogs and that goats have red blood equally

Dpleaser:
Even if I'm to go by this your view, it means every creator has a purpose it creates.
If the creature fulfilled the purpose it was created, it'll surely be worthy of being created when compared to the that failed to fulfilled this purpose.

For, this purpose is our purpose of life, it is to serve our creator. You can't serve what or who you do not know, so it's important to know the creator. How do you know him is why I ask us to read through religious books with open mind, convince yourself don't let anyone misguide you.

Iree o

So, by time A.I Sophia finds out that her creators are only out to use her, not to get her to heaven or hell. Not to answer her prayers or provide for her. Do you think she should continue worship of humans?

FarmPlanetNG:
Have Faith. Open thine heart

Nope. Having Faith is to close one’s heart. It’s to be dogmatic, blind and brainwashed

Krismas:
Nope. Having Faith is to close one’s heart. It’s to be dogmatic, blind and brainwashed

After death comes unchangeable realization

Three Nigerian Pastors Who Preached God Is Not In Heaven

What the Bible exhausts about Heaven;

Psalm 33:13, “The Lord looketh from Heaven, he beholds all the sons of men."

If God is not in Heaven, there is no way by which the scripture will state that God looks from Heaven. The same was the revelation Eliphaz had and asserted that this same God is in the height of heavens, Job 22:12. That means a place far above from the earth.


Psalm 11:4, “The LORD is in his Holy Temple, the LORD's is in Heaven. His eyes behold and his eyelids try, the children of men."

The Lord's throne is in Heaven, there is no doubt about that, rehearsing that God's throne is not in Heaven contradicts the Holy Bible.


Various Nigerian preachers have insinuated the contrary to their devotees and these are;



Apostle Johnson Suleiman

Pastor Blessed Dikeh:

Pastor Abel Damina;



https://theskynow.com/2024/03/11/3-nigerian-pastors-who-preach-god-is-not-in-heaven/

FarmPlanetNG:
After death comes unchangeable realization

How can u be so certain? Have you died before? Faith is to hand over the rational wheel of one’s life to others to direct. One necessarily have to descend to a state of stupor, to be FAITHful

IVYWonder9:
Three Nigerian Pastors Who Preached God Is Not In Heaven

What the Bible exhausts about Heaven;

Psalm 33:13, “The Lord looketh from Heaven, he beholds all the sons of men."

If God is not in Heaven, there is no way by which the scripture will state that God looks from Heaven. The same was the revelation Eliphaz had and asserted that this same God is in the height of heavens, Job 22:12. That means a place far above from the earth.


Psalm 11:4, “The LORD is in his Holy Temple, the LORD's is in Heaven. His eyes behold and his eyelids try, the children of men."

The Lord's throne is in Heaven, there is no doubt about that, rehearsing that God's throne is not in Heaven contradicts the Holy Bible.


Various Nigerian preachers have insinuated the contrary to their devotees and these are;



Apostle Johnson Suleiman

Pastor Blessed Dikeh:

Pastor Abel Damina;



https://theskynow.com/2024/03/11/3-nigerian-pastors-who-preach-god-is-not-in-heaven/

Why are u spamming the thread like a malfunctioning bot? WHERE WAS GOD SQUATTING B4 HE MADE HEAVEN? WHO MADE GOD? Answer this quizzes. B4 u spam again?

Blupen:
Na Sapa make me wise brother

🤣😂
We are all at the institute of sapa working for the money to japa
See you at the top my bro

Krismas:
How can u be so certain? Have you died before? Faith is to hand over the rational wheel of one’s life to others to direct. One necessarily have to descend to a state of stupor, to be FAITHful

There are realms. Some people reach the place of the dead while alive

FarmPlanetNG:
There are realms. Some people reach the place of the dead while alive

Precisely my point! SOME PEOPLE. as u say. Have SOME PEOPLE ever lied b4? Let me rephrase, have YOU been to the place of the dead while still been alive?

Krismas:
You forgot to add that Sapience and sentience is in heightened degrees in dogs and that goats have red blood equally

1. I have by no means claimed red blood to be exclusive to humans
2. I have by no means claimed sentience/ sapience to be unique to human beings

All I stated was that these are qualities of human beings. Someone asked if all humans are sentient spiritual beings and I said yes. Now you came along and said no. Its just as though someone asks if all humans have red blood and I say yes, and you say no. And then you point out that goats also have red blood. Does this change the fact that humans have red blood?

Now are they not?

Please I am being patient here. If you have something concrete to say, say it.

oranget:
And what could this source be?

Well some people call it "God." But I would be careful here, lest one thinks I refer to the Abrahamic God - which is many times a corrupt conception of God - also a bloodthirsty and genocidal racist conception.

Lets just say the source is the source. It is the root of all existence.

insightful thread

FarmPlanetNG:
It is a pity. That after death people will beg God but He won't listen. No single human being that passed thru this planet from the start dies. Not even one. It is either one wakes up to eternal life or is thrown into everlasting fire. You were told. You chose not to accept God's redemption plan for humanity

Shut up!!!

You started talking and beating chest like a gorilla being a self acclaimed scientist so that we can submit our brain to you and accept whatever jargons you are about to spill from your dirty mouth.
Go and tell you village chiefs that one. You aren’t speaking to illiterates here. Olodo claiming scientist. Scientist kill you there.
The world is evolving, you keep yourself deluded in Jewish fairy tales. Guy give yourself brain oo, go and be telling this crap to the illiterates that surround you and amuse them with your stupidity.

Omoawoke:
Shut up!!!

You started talking and beating chest like a gorilla being a self acclaimed scientist so that we can submit our brain to you and accept whatever jargons you are about to spill from your dirty mouth.
Go and tell you village chiefs that one. You aren’t speaking to illiterates here. Olodo claiming scientist. Scientist kill you there.
The world is evolving, you keep yourself deluded in Jewish fairy tales. Guy give yourself brain oo, go and be telling this crap to the illiterates that surround you and amuse them with your stupidity.

I don't make declarations and then force my views on people. No stress yourself. Five minutes after death you will confirm all I said that you are cursing me for. It's just time. The time of mankind is 70 - 85 years. Enjoy your life and love as you please.

FarmPlanetNG:
I don't make declarations and then force my views on people. No stress yourself. Five minutes after death you will confirm all I said that you are cursing me for. It's just time. The time of mankind is 70 - 85 years. Enjoy your life and love as you please.

Ogun go kill you and before you die, your eyes go clear, mad man

Omoawoke:
Ogun go kill your papa and before you die, your eyes go clear, mad man

It's all about time my brother. Before I knew God my father was crazier than you. He used to slap and beat up pastors. May your time to know Him come

FarmPlanetNG:
It's all about time my brother

Yeah, it’s all about time. How wonder how painful it will be for you at your death bed when you realized all you were chasing and believing were all lies. I imagine the agony of defeat on your face when you breathe your last and you fight to say your last words “it was all lies”

Omoawoke:
Yeah, it’s all about time. How wonder how painful it will be for you at your death bed when you realized all you were chasing and believing were all lies. I imagine the agony of defeat on your face when you breathe last and your fight to say your last words “it was all lies”

Lolz. The Holy Spirit personally invited me for a tour of the divine last year. Spent 4-6 hours daily for eight months. I have experienced Jesus personally, experienced Heaven, experienced Hell. Experienced great sufferings that most of my generation can't go thru. I've touched wealth. My dear, I know what's real and what's not

FarmPlanetNG:
Lolz. The Holy Spirit personally invited me for a tour of the divine last year. Spent 4-6 hours daily for eight months. I have experienced Jesus personally, experienced Heaven, experienced Hell. Experienced great sufferings that most of my generation can't go thru. I've touched wealth. My dear, I know what's real and what's not

Tell me how the Jesus looks like. A white man with beards abi?
You are a disgrace to your race!

DeepSight:
1. I have by no means claimed red blood to be exclusive to humans
2. I have by no means claimed sentience/ sapience to be unique to human beings

All I stated was that these are qualities of human beings. Someone asked if all humans are sentient spiritual beings and I said yes. Now you came along and said no. Its just as though someone asks if all humans have red blood and I say yes, and you say no. And then you point out that goats also have red blood. Does this change the fact that humans have red blood?

Now are they not?

Please I am being patient here. If you have something concrete to say, say it.

Now u are being patient?
Yet u leave out my question in your analysis? Namely, different kinds of humans on the earth? And wot color is god? This was wen you went sentient and sapient as common traits of humans and wen I noted these traits in animals, rather than tell me animals are also humans you play patient! Are all humans sentient spiritual? Ofcourse all humans are not the same atall. That’s why I said no.

Omoawoke:
Tell me how the Jesus looks like. A white man with beards abi?
You are a disgrace to your race!

I rather be stripped.naked and even killed than to deny My Lord doesn't exist. I will tell you how to know you've met Jesus when the day comes when you meet Him. He is the only being in the entire world that doesn't need to introduce Himself to anyone before He is acknowledged. In that day, you will open your mouth and scream His name without Him declaring His identity. It's only about time my dear. Be patient. Your time will come. In life or death everyone will acknowledge Jesus

FarmPlanetNG:
I rather be stripped.naked and even killed than to deny My Lord doesn't exist. I will tell you how to know you've met Jesus when the day comes when you meet Him. He is the only being in the entire world that doesn't need to introduce Himself to anyone before He is acknowledged. In that day, you will open your mouth and scream His name without Him declaring His identity. It's only about time my dear. Be patient. Your time will come. In life or death everyone will acknowledge Jesus

I can see you don’t really have sense like that. You are suffering of psychological problems, schizophrenia and mental trauma.

Omoawoke:
I can see you don’t really have sense like that. You are suffering of psychological problems, schizophrenia and mental trauma.

It's fine for me to be abused. The scripture says Blessed I am when people persecute and say all sorts of things against me that great is my reward in Heaven. You will acknowledge God at your time

Krismas:
Now u are being patient?
Yet u leave out my question in your analysis? Namely, different kinds of humans on the earth? And wot color is god? This was wen you went sentient and sapient as common traits of humans and wen I noted these traits in animals, rather than tell me animals are also humans you play patient! Are all humans sentient spiritual? Ofcourse all humans are not the same atall. That’s why I said no.

I have tried hard, but I can only sift two questions of note in the above - the blue and the red, which I answer below in same colors.

While there are different kinds of humans on the Earth, all have red blood, just as all have spirituality. This takes nothing away from the fact that goats have red blood and goats may have spirituality. Please note, I repeat - I have not claimed these traits to be exclusive to humans. And when you say humans are different, note that inasmuch as we all have red blood, we still have different blood groups, by way of analogy.

I dont know what color God is and I doubt that IT has a color in the way we understand the term "color."

I doubt that there can be anything further meaningful to add to this conversation beyond that we have shared.
Have a good day.

Johnjustice:
Yes, in the sense of where the materials come from you are correct...but I mean all these are not in the grand plan of the universe. The universe is about evolution, biology, this is how the universe creates life forms. You are not wrong just different context.

The Only Misconceptions I'm Addressing is That "Everything is In The Grand Plan of The Universes" .... Everything Even The Ones That Shall Happen in The Next 1billion Light Years Away From Earth & Everything......

We Human are not doing anything Spectacular neither have we done anything Spectacular because everything we are doing, Shall Do & Have Done is Within What The Universes Already Inscribed in Our Scripts(DNA) ... We still have More Than 1billion Unexplored Resources Within Ourselves & If You Can't Explore Yourself, You Can't Explore The Worlds .... It Starts From Within !

... We haven't Even done 0.01% of What The Universes Expected from Us because to Move Faster, All Humanities Must Become One Unified Entity Devoid of Any Iota of Crisis & Everything Must Be In Peace & Decorum ... No More Crisis .... We shall Move Faster in Progressive Growths & Developments....

FarmPlanetNG:
Eternal fire is not a joke. And it will.be too late to make amends and repent after death. Accept Jesus Christ today because there is no repentance after death. And dying in sin means to be thrown into eternal fire

Is Jesus an Elien?

FarmPlanetNG:
You better run and find a clergy that knows well enough about hell fire and eternal fires of hell to straighten your understanding and put you in the right path. You are in danger of hell from your ignorance and ignorance is not an excuse

A clergy to put him in the right part where he's expected to bring 10% of his hard earned money(tithe) + 1st, 2nd even 3rd offerings, sowing seed, launching, 1st fruit etc to do the work of God that was not created by SuperGod. We need freedom

DonroxyII:
The Only Misconceptions I'm Addressing is That "Everything is In The Grand Plan of The Universes" .... Everything Even The Ones That Shall Happen in The Next 1billion Light Years Away From Earth & Everything......

We Human are not doing anything Spectacular neither have we done anything Spectacular because everything we are doing, Shall Do & Have Done is Within What The Universes Already Inscribed in Our Scripts(DNA) ... We still have More Than 1billion Unexplored Resources Within Ourselves & If You Can't Explore Yourself, You Can't Explore The Worlds .... It Starts From Within !

... We haven't Even done 0.01% of What The Universes Expected from Us because to Move Faster, All Humanities Must Become One Unified Entity Devoid of Any Iota of Crisis & Everything Must Be In Peace & Decorum ... No More Crisis .... We shall Move Faster in Developments....

What is 'development' to us, might not be development in the eyes of the universe.

Sometimes creations can do their own thing, that is why even scientists are cautious about AI...we might not have been programmed to go this way... nuclear weapons, fossil fuels, global warming...not in the universe best interest.

Blupen:
yeah free guy is the title of the movie

Not a movie but a YouTube video where the YouTuber (who's a gamer) tells the npcs in the video game he's playing that they're all living in an illusion.

DeepSight:
I have tried hard, but I can only sift two questions of note in the above - the blue and the red, which I answer below in same colors.

While there are different kinds of humans on the Earth, all have red blood, just as all have spirituality. This takes nothing away from the fact that goats have red blood and goats may have spirituality. Please note, I repeat - I have not claimed these traits to be exclusive to humans. And when you say humans are different, note that inasmuch as we all have red blood, we still have different blood groups, by way of analogy.

I dont know what color God is and I doubt that IT has a color in the way we understand the term "color."

I doubt that there can be anything further meaningful to add to this conversation beyond that we have shared.
Have a good day.

here is what you said
I doubt that there can be anything further meaningful to add to this conversation beyond that we have shared.
then you wanted no more part in the conversation? when every single assertion of yours above is laughably wrong?
it happens that there are only two types of humans
The 9series DNA man (black man) and the 6 series DNA man.

The 9series is the only mankind. others are only kinds of man

The 9series is the only Neuro MELANATED person on the planet. yet he is never called to the melanin conference!
while the rest only have DNA, 9series also has D.E.A (DEOXYETHERIC ACID)
9series is the only one still with the Mitochondrial Eve gene


The 6series DNA is a fake kind of man. with no sufficient carbon in his skin.
the 6series man is only a little above chimp.
the 6series still has a tail till this day.

The 9series created the 6series. implication is that their are many fabricated human beings right now on the planet. they are worthless clones with no souls. if they die, they going nowhere. they have died. they are just like robots. and this cannot happen in the case of a black man. he is too complex to be fabricated. the draco reptilians cannot fabricate a black man

so, are all men sentient spirits? only an ignorant person will say yes and a more ignorant person will say nothing more canbe discussed