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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Quebec91(m): 11:20am On Mar 17
cheesy
ednut1:
Nigerians are just too gullible. Sowing seeds to pastor who have private jets and live large 🤣
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Fryx: 11:24am On Mar 17

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by GreatAchiever1: 11:24am On Mar 17
aremubabs:



What are the characteristics of a false religion?




As far as I am concerned, religion is religion. They are all worshiping God in different ways.

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me.
— John 14:6

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by SeriouslySense(m): 11:27am On Mar 17
In other words, you do not believe in Jesus, the son of God.


In another sense, you are your own god. You are your own salvation. Can you give yourself glory, does strength, purity and power trully comes from yourself. Do you deserve goodness, do you deserve life. Does it come from yourself, did you create yourself.

And what makes you sure, that it leads to eternal life with God.

Fryx:
I don’t pray, except I was directed to pray (from within me). And if I pray, I don’t pray to a religious god. I just talk to my fathers normally. And I see the result of my request.

Religion fvcked me up. Given I am spiritual too, it almost run me mad. Thanks to my fathers, I was not a a prisoner for long.

I don’t need to worry about anyone punishing me or roasting me in a lake of fire. I don’t even need to sacrifice or do any form of offering. My fathers knows what I need and are always ready to help me.

If I disobey them, I don’t need to ask for forgiveness. They know I am still growing, and learning from my mistakes is enough. They will guide me and teach me to rise from my mistakes. They teach me wisdom, knowledge and give me understanding.

But, they never made themselves god over me. They give me my freedom to learn and explore.

That’s the religion of my father. How those funny skinned people where able to manipulate my people that their religion is bad and theirs is good still baffles me. What can be better than “humanity as a religion”
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Kaido: 11:30am On Mar 17
Honestey:
""It was when I sowed a seed and in the end, I didn’t see the result. They kept on pushing me to continue sowing and I just realised that it was a scam.!"

I couldn't stop laughing at most of his replies, sound funny but make senses to a large extent. How I wish he had switched to Islam to see if there is anything scam in that religion. This is why Islam fits into any society and all kinds of civilization.
In the first place, no one will dare ask you to show a seed of any kind.
No tithes, but offering and not compulsorily to your pastor imam but to the needies
No miracle by a mere human, (yes there were some prophets who did perform miracles). However, it's not a criteria to be a true man of God. Islam believes the so called miracles by ordinary men could all be a lie!
No prophecies, only Almighty God knows what happens next, when and how
No believe in you being hunted by witches, only Amighty Allah can make anything happen to you.
In all ramifications Islam is by nature humanism he now embrace as it's a way of life. However, Islam is a guiding approach to that humanism as it's full of do's and don'ts so as to preserve the sanctity of humanity. Hence Islamic society is one of strict discipline and limitations of all kinds of freedoms that has now perverted many society and leading them into ruins.
Islam is what his soul is seeking for him, I pray his eyes open wider to see his destiny.

From frying pan to fire.

Islam me? grin
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by GreatAchiever1: 11:34am On Mar 17
johnog4sure:
You are calling your ancestors traditional religion false? Europeans now have started worship Baal and other pagan gods(reason why homosexuality and other vices is growing fast in the west), hope when they come to Africa you will abandon the religion they introduced earlier and join them in the new religion? Africa return home and get sense! Judaism is for Jews, Islam is for Arabs, Christianity for Europeans, Hinduism for Chinese, Buddhism for Indians, where are you my brother?


The gospel of Christ is for the whole world not just for one continent or region. We are Africans but there are Christians (Jesus is for everybody anywhere in the world) and yes our ancestors all worshipped false gods. There are two religions in the world-The true religion which is the gospel of Christ and the false religion where others you mentioned fall into. So where are you?
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Watinhapen(m): 11:35am On Mar 17
I have never paid tithe and I will never pay tithe because I don’t believe in tithe. I don’t need to pay God 10% of my monthly income for him to bless me. I know for a fact that God doesn’t need money and doesn’t use money for anything. Anything money doesn’t concern God. God only needs our praises, worship and thanksgiving. I pay offering and thanksgiving offering because I believe that I need to offer something on Sunday services for the church to run while I give thanksgiving offering to thank God for everything he has done and will do for me. I don’t need to bribe God or pay him to bless me. Moreover, the idea of tithe in the Old Testament has been bastardised by pastors. The bible says bring part of your harvest into my store house so that there will be enough to give out to those in need. Today pastor has turned it into money for their bank accounts. If you believe in tithe you can continue paying but leave people that don’t believe in tithe to their believes.

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by ictplotter(m): 11:35am On Mar 17
Okortor:
A fool will always remain a fool, why not also demand full refund from all the oloshos you have slept with.......you guys see Christianity as a joke because of its peaceful and Christlike nature. Can you try such with the head slammer's religion?
Olosho render a satisfactory service for money received by them. When same olosho fail to deliver on her services n promises you demand a return of your money. But Pls which services does those criminals called pastors render that they will demanding for monetary tith. Seed, offering etc?

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Naijanascam: 11:39am On Mar 17
I donate this man as my own offering

Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by tete7000(m): 11:40am On Mar 17
Geovanni412:


Don't confuse Christianity with churchianism

I advise you to listen to Pastor Abel Damina

There is no relationship between giving tithes and making money

Christianity is about loving your neighbour.

Jesus Christ was not a rich man in earthly possessions but he was rich with wisdom and things of the spirit.

Listen to Pastor Abel Damina and change.

Which Pastor Damina? Another confused human being? Anyone who listens to that one will end up more confused than the man in question here. Penteconstalism brought its own dimension of confusion into Christianity allowing every Dick and Harry to wake up and claim to be pastor.

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Emmanuel30a2: 11:42am On Mar 17
Good01:


https://punchng.com/why-i-demanded-return-of-tithe-from-my-former-church-abuja-man/
Yet/yes, you still haven't gets it... But when you don't gets it, you may tries to forgets it...
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by blowjohn(m): 11:46am On Mar 17
ezewealth:

I think it promises, the doctor Sarah that sacrifices her life for majority of Nigeria not to contact the deadily virus (ebola). There no sacrifices more than that. Even ur pastor wouldn't do that.


That's not eternal life. Soldiers do that too.

By the way, now that u mentioned her, I always felt Nigeria didn't do enough to celebrate that woman. She was really really brave.

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Geovanni412(m): 11:46am On Mar 17
tete7000:


Which Pastor Damina? Another confused human being? Anyone who listens to that one will end up more confused than the man in question here. Penteconstalism brought its own dimension of confusion into Christianity allowing every Dick and Harry to wake up and claim to be pastor.

You keep mentioning the word confused

State your personal stance so that the people can understand you.

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Fryx: 11:46am On Mar 17

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by SeriouslySense(m): 11:48am On Mar 17
1) You love christ teaching but do not believe in him, that is sad in a way, you are almost there, but not there.

2) You have a convenant with the dead.

3) You may have abilities with the supernatural, does not mean its will lead to eternal Life.

4) What people say is one thing, do you believe in what God says.

5) You are not even sure of yourself, you are playing with your eternal destiny, my brother its all your choice, no one can make you choose. But choose wisely.

6) You believe in love and humanity, but do not believe in the creator and his love for humanity, you say his love on the cross was fables and myths, well suit yourself. After all you choose what suits you and makes you feel very good.

Eternal life is a fable to you and myths, you do not care, but you care about what you see only, and its all good for now. What what will you see after death, what will you know after this life on earth, if you care, then you will situp and seek the truth and it will set you free by God grace.

Do not let pride fool you. Do not deceive yourself.

Fryx:



Let me assume you don’t understand my first write up.

I love Christ teaching, but, he is only useful for his people.

I have my own ancestors. And we have our beliefs.

If I am born in a bush that knows nothing about the existence of any religion, I will happily do like my fathers.

I was born into religion. But, I am deeply in covenant with my ancestors, so it fvcked me up really hard. I only regain my sanity once I stop believing in religion.

Plus, religion reduces my IQ by up to 99%, not a way of life for me.

I don’t practice any religion. My fathers don’t instruct me to practice any. They just minister to me directly (I didn’t lost my spiritual sensitivity)

When I was religious, they say I will become a pastor some day. Because they see that I am spiritually sensitive. They never say I am possessed with an evil spirit. Infact, I love everyone, and understand agree with Christ teachings, cause it’s largely true.

But, religion is not for me.

Christ never preach religion either.

My father never ask me to worship them or anyone either.

They just minister to me when necessary. That’s all.

Most of the time, I live as freely as I can.

Back to you questions. I don’t know who taught Christ about some eternal life or bla bla bla. But I guess it’s a Jewish something.

But, my fathers don’t believe in such fables. They believe in communicating with the dead. And they believe their dead is still among them.

They believe in good and evil.

They believe in karma.

That’s what I believe in.

I don’t know if they believe in humanity. But I believe in love and humanity. Not because I aim to get reward from being humane. But because it makes me happy and free my soul.

I do things because they makes sense to me. If it does not make sense to me, it does not apply to me.

And yes, if I achieve a great feat. I give myself a path in the back. And will gladly appreciate my fathers for standing by me.

Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by GUNITGuy: 11:48am On Mar 17
stagger:
God knows those who are miracle chasers and mammon worshippers, who come to church and treat God like a slot machine (such as this man).

dont blame the man ,,,,,,hes the empahasis he has been hearing....
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by obinnazy(m): 11:53am On Mar 17
RepoMan007:
He is confused.

You gerrit

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by AntiChristian: 11:56am On Mar 17
Goodlady:

Are you aware the stray bullet hit you and ya minions for mosque and to Arabia, Hamas, Palestine, Iraq, Yemen, Iran, northern Nigeria etc?
Humanity's first before religion. So don't just flex muscle because this one dey talk about churches. Billions are coming for Islam's bad deeds! And by then, you might be nuked!

My humanity is derived from my religion! grin

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by AntiChristian: 11:57am On Mar 17
Goodlady:

Are you aware the stray bullet hit you and ya minions for mosque and to Arabia, Hamas, Palestine, Iraq and Iran?

Wetin you dey talk? Na stray bullet Pastor give you today?
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Salt06(m): 11:59am On Mar 17
blowjohn:



Did u read well?

Do u know virtually all sects, religious affiliations have humanity?

It's not key my guy.

The man is smart but not spiritually discerning.

Does he think he can make the needed changes he seeks in traditional religion as regards sacrifices?

The man is smart but confused.

He never said Christianity was false. His grouse is the tithe thing which is still a subject of controversy.


Did he asked the holy Spirit to lead him?

I doubt.

God's revelation of himself is key.

Not humanity.
Not tithe


Even politicians will show u love and still mess u up.

God's blessings added no sorrows
Comment I was looking for. The man is smart but no spiritual discernment...
Humanity and religion are not mutually exclusive. There are many church going people that are very humane

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Chikel20000(m): 11:59am On Mar 17
StraightGaay:
Is he?
HE and not he
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by PaulH07: 11:59am On Mar 17
aremubabs:




You are not making any sense.




How can you demand refund from olosho when she has rendered her services? She has given you what you paid for.



The man wants a refund because he didn't get what they promised him. If I pay for something and I didn't get it, it is either you refund me or you give me what I paid for.




As for Muslims, they don't promise you wealth in return for your tithes and offering. Muslims encourage giving to the needy and the poor.

That's why it's rare and difficult for them to have apostates, cos they expect nothing here in earth.

All they expect is Al-jannah.

Islam was well crafted than Christianity to keep it's people glued to it.
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Chikel20000(m): 12:00pm On Mar 17
PaulH07:


That's why it's rare and difficult for them to have apostates, cos they expect nothing here in earth.

All they expect is Al-jannah.

Islam was well crafted than Christianity to keep it's people glued to it.
I pity d both of u sha

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by AntiChristian: 12:02pm On Mar 17
IamANigerianMan:
he was told to come for his money and refused

Make he drop Aza na!

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by obinnazy(m): 12:03pm On Mar 17
Okortor:
A fool will always remain a fool, why not also demand full refund from all the oloshos you have slept with.......you guys see Christianity as a joke because of its peaceful and Christlike nature. Can you try such with the head slammer's religion?

Soon he will run away from traditional religion

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by blowjohn(m): 12:05pm On Mar 17
Salt06:

Comment I was looking for. The man is smart but no spiritual discernment

Thank you. How can someone leave church to go to where sacrifices in animal forms are done. And he is there complaining. And he knows there is something bad about it. He even admits he hasn't embraced it totally because of certain things.

So he liked everything about church except tithe.

Now he has more than 1 thing he doesn't like about traditional religion.

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by tete7000(m): 12:05pm On Mar 17
Geovanni412:


You keep mentioning the word confused

State your personal stance so that the people can understand you.

My personal stance is that op is confused and the Pastor you advocated to help him is more confused than him. Christianity is really, God is real, Christ is real but as real as these are they can be misinterpreted and get mixed up and the two personalities we are talking about here, op and Damiba have got it all mixed up.
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by blowjohn(m): 12:06pm On Mar 17
obinnazy:


Soon he will run away from traditional religion

It's not going to take long, he will run away from it. It already showed in his comments and submissions. It's all confusion
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Ubdavis(m): 12:06pm On Mar 17
I'm happy with ur level of progress, I believe with time, u would come to realize that even that almighty God Dr doesn't exist
Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by Fryx: 12:07pm On Mar 17

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by SeriouslySense(m): 12:09pm On Mar 17
alright if you say so, do as you wish. No one is forcing you. May God see us through.

As for me, i believe in Jesus, he is the Son of the most high, he is the almighty, and he is coming again. smiley smiley


We are so close, haha to glory, praise be to God.

I know the truth, and no one can take it away from me, thank God, that he took me, and choose me in christ,before the world began.

The spirit of this wokeness tried me, but God sealed me. Amen.

God, i thank you, and i am very grateful, that you are life, salvation and greatness comes from you alone, you lift us up, and you cover us. All glory goes to the almighty.

Fryx:


You talk about eternal life. What’s it?

Do you know that people live forever, regardless of your convictions? I mean, even if you leave your body by dying, that doesn’t make you stop existing. You will just be doing so in another realm.


I have never seen any of my ancestors suffering wherever they are, and they are not Christian. So, why should I hope for a life that does not exist.

If they want me to succeed on earth, it means earth is our home and I must build a better home for my future self.

I agree with many of Christ teachings because I will give a similar judgement if I am asked to judge. That doesn’t make me a follower, it’s Just common sense.

I don’t have any problem with your religion either, but like I said earlier, my allegiance is to my fathers, and my children.

I can’t lose my tradition and become a slave to another man tradition. If you are from the type of family I come from, you will know how important that is.

It’s my inheritance, I must protect it. I am proud of it, and I miss nothing.

So, why should I, a leader to my people drop our beliefs to start asslicking another race tradition.

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Re: Why I Demanded Return Of Tithe From My Former Church – Abuja Man by obinnazy(m): 12:09pm On Mar 17
blowjohn:


It's not going to take long, he will run away from it. It already showed in his comments and submissions. It's all confusion

Soon they will tell him to go and bring cow to appease the gods.

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