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Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by ndu99(m): 4:43pm On Mar 10
AntiChristian:
Bible get mouth talk say Jesus dey under curse!

All Christians too are cursed!

Paul says in Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”


He was quoting Deuteronomy 21:23:
You must not leave the body on the tree overnight, but you must be sure to bury him that day, because anyone who is hung on a tree is under God's curse. You must not defile the land that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.
get out! You think Bible is just like anyother story book you've been reading... it appeased me seeing your bald head turned into an illiterate.
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by brightovio007(m): 5:12pm On Mar 10
When a believer maintain a life of fervent prayer, fasting , studying Gods word, acting on the instructions he received from God , praising God and shun sins, no Cruse can be yoke upon him, but if he fail short of these things definitely he we be operating under a close heaven and earth.
Read Deut 28: 1 to 13 then 14 till the end

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Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by christistruth01: 5:24pm On Mar 10
The Gospel Truth is No

Jesus Christ nailed it to the Cross and Paid the Price with his own blood

A lot of unexplained things and afflictions may be going on in your life but not Curses
That was why Jesus Christ said in John 16 in this life you shall have may Troubles but have no fear for I have overcome the World
John 16:33

Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by studM(m): 7:43pm On Mar 10
dgitrader:
Depends on what you mean by "Christian"

On the surface... Let's not forget it's a title or label
But
Christ can't be your lord and saviour and yet you be under a curse. Impossible!


U err no knowing scripture sir (isa 5:13)
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by studM(m): 7:47pm On Mar 10
Yes a born again Christian serving d lord in truth n in did can still be in a curse!!d only thing that can deliver any Christian from curses is true knowledge of God n his word
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Pchizy: 12:03am On Mar 11
Truvelisback:
A christian can. That you become born again doesn't automatically make you free from some curses. E.g A woman kills someone, and a curse was placed on her family, it would affect the children too. If the children aren't aware, they may continue to suffer the consequences.


This is for everyone, including me.
May God grant us insight.

Gradually read through from this angle.


Have you come across John 4:24 before

#"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in SPIRIT and in TRUTH"

That conversation is not just pointing to the Samaritan woman alone.

Let's briefly understand this great call.
........

1 Cor. 2:

14 Someone living on an entirely human level rejects the revelations of God’s Spirit, for they make no sense to him. He can’t understand the revelations of the Spirit because they are only discovered by the illumination of the Spirit.

15 Those who live in the Spirit are able to carefully evaluate all things, and they are subject to the scrutiny of no one but God.
.........

Gal 5:16

So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature (flesh) craves

Rom 8:1

There is therefore now #no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
........

Now, this is beyond claiming that I am free, I am not caused etc.
Read that Rom 8:1 again,,

Anyone walking in the flesh is still entitled to all those condemnation.

Then,
How can someone get into this walking in the Spirit ?
.........

You have to first surrender your life totally to Jesus and He will give you His Spirit, the enabling power to live a Christ life.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you:
..........

Christianity is not actually because one is praying, or one is in various church activities, or one that says Church is in the heart. Etc

Jesus said in John 14:6, "I am the WAY, The TRUTH, and the LIFE..."

So have you really believed and accepted this Truth called Jesus Christ?
Which Spirit is in you that is leading you to believe elsewhere or live a kind of life?
...........

When one accepts Jesus, what it means is that the person that used to do only bad; that person who is qualified to be caused or held by curses he KNOWS or NOT, etc is crucified and dead, and now the new person that is living in the person is Jesus.
Galatians 2:20

That's why, Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
..........

Subscribing to Jesus means accepting the Truth, being guided by His Spirit, because there's a total purchase of your life back by a greater blood of Christ, from every kindred, nation, people.
Rom 5:9, Rev. 5:9-10

Ignorance of Jesus (the Truth), leads to perishing. It gives room for curses, condemnation etc.
........

Hosea 4:6, Jn 3:16 : Perishing for having not known and accepted this Truth.

When you know the Truth, the Truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32

Now you know why John 4:24 said,
#"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in SPIRIT and in TRUTH".
.........

Have you really accepted Jesus Christ (the Truth)?

Or you don't even know, not sure, or do you still say later or do you still belong or believe the world and their beliefs, and still doubting God's word?

Decision, now is better than that procrastination.

........
For further digest:

Col 2:
13 You were dead in sins, and your sinful desires were not yet cut away. Then he gave you a share in the very life of Christ, for he forgave all your sins,
14 and blotted out the charges proved against you, the list of his commandments which you had not obeyed. He took this list of sins and destroyed it by nailing it to Christ’s cross.
15 In this way God took away Satan’s power to accuse you of sin, and God openly displayed to the whole world Christ’s triumph at the cross where your sins were all taken away.

Jere 31:
29 The people shall no longer quote this proverb—“Children pay for their fathers’ sins.”
30 For everyone shall die for his own sins—the person eating sour grapes is the one whose teeth are set on edge.


Let me add again. Never brag about not being cursed, rather give God thanks for saving you, then teach others as led. Daily treasure staying in God's presence via prayers, & studying the Word.

On other note: if for instance, someone out there just cursed you verbally, and you were innocent, but you started to rebuke or reject the curse with fear that you need to counter every wrong word, or even declared prayer against the curse. It could be a signal that you don't really know whom a Christian truly is.

Prov 26:2
GNT: "Curses cannot hurt you unless you deserve them. They are like birds that fly by and never light"

NLT: "Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse will not land on its intended victim."

Remember again:
If truly claim a Christian, you can still perish or fall victim:
---if you lack these knowledge.
---if you don't believe these Word of God.
---if you believe or think that Jesus is not enough to deliver, irrespective of the magnitude of your past.
---when you think that beyond Jesus, you still need other powers.
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by seunayantokun(m): 5:03am On Mar 11
Can a Christian be thirsty since they have already been provided free water? Yes, if they fail to drink the free water provided.
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31am On Mar 11
What makes one a born again Christian?
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Ilora0550: 1:04pm On Mar 11
You can be one of a good christian
MisterBanny:
Majority of christians are so Bad
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 3:19pm On Mar 13
ndu99:
get out! You think Bible is just like anyother story book you've been reading... it appeased me seeing your bald head turned into an illiterate.

Jesus said..

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter ndu99, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 3:20pm On Mar 13
Bmaster:
oga easy oo.
Cursed YES!he was cursed the moment he was hung.
Did he later die ?
Yes!!! He died unto sin,for the bible made it clear that the wages of sin is death.
Did he resurrected?
Definitely Yes!
So..,he died with his curse and resurrected as a free-man,for the fact that he died,he has paid his debt.he is no more under a curse,then he resurrected unto Glory.therefore he has fulfilled all things by descending to the lowest of hell and from there, ascending unto the highest of highs,thereby filling all things.
Hallelujah 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

But you are all cursed!
That's all!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by IslamVIRGINS(f): 9:44pm On Mar 13
AntiChristian:


But you agree Christ is cursed as well as you right?

It is muhammad that was cursed. Christ that has power over death cannot be cursed
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:48pm On Mar 13
AntiChristian:


But you agree Christ is cursed as well as you right?

You have a chance to become a multimillionaire!

Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 11:21am On Mar 14
Aemmyjah:


You have a chance to become a multimillionaire!

I won't even claim it.

You will ask a question then put conditions. Just like asking a trinitarian to show me where Jesus called himself God!

Or asking a JW where Jesus specifically say he would come back in 1914 and to JW faction of Christianity!

Na waste of time!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 11:22am On Mar 14
IslamVIRGINS:


It is muhammad that was cursed. Christ that has power over death cannot be cursed

So your bible lied that Christ was cursed? Olodo!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by IslamVIRGINS(f): 12:29pm On Mar 14
AntiChristian:


So your bible lied that Christ was cursed? Olodo!

The bible written by your utazh right?
Omugo!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 6:44pm On Mar 14
IslamVIRGINS:


The bible written by your utazh right?
Omugo!

Olodo means you lack knowledge while omugo is what Paul preached in Galatians 3:1.

Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 6:49pm On Mar 14
IslamVIRGINS:


The bible written by your utazh right?
Omugo!

Olodo means you lack knowledge while omugo is what Paul preached in Galatians 3:1.

Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.

So you are a Christian liar!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Kobojunkie: 7:19pm On Mar 14
AntiChristian:
■ But you agree Christ is cursed as well as you right?
He was cursed on the cross but He died and the curse of God does not remain after death— God's curses end in death. So, How can Christ be said to still be cursed since he is recorded to have died, and raised himself from the dead? undecided
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by IslamVIRGINS(f): 9:11pm On Mar 14
AntiChristian:


Olodo means you lack knowledge while omugo is what Paul preached in Galatians 3:1.

Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.

So you are a Christian liar!

As the one preached to you in Quran 15:6

They said, “Messenger, you are certainly mad.


Galatians 3:13 is very clear to understand but the demons in you won't let you understand that simple English

Let me ask you this, can someone that can give life dies?

Christ redeemed us from the curse of law as he surrendered himself to the cross so that we'll inherit eternal life after death

You are a Muslim uneducated slave that ought to surrender yourself for learning
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:52am On Mar 15
AntiChristian:


I won't even claim it.

You will ask a question then put conditions. Just like asking a trinitarian to show me where Jesus called himself God!

Or asking a JW where Jesus specifically say he would come back in 1914 and to JW faction of Christianity!

Na waste of time!

If the Prophet were alive today and practicing same behavior, he'll have been jailed as an cult figure
Personally, I don't rate him with Buddha and Jesus
I rate him with Napoleon, Bonafeountes, Hitler, Stalin... He killed, looted, kidnapped, raped, employed propagandist, a pedophile even asking sick men to heal themselves by drinking urine and milk of cow. When they did so, he removed their eyes and cut their limbs... I ask myself why would any sane person want to be like this Prophet?
Studying his lifestyle, people that are perfectly following every aspects of the Prophet are terrorists... Like Muhammad, they kidnapped in mass numbers, raped, all kinds of nonsense and still praise Allah


Another question, in Africa, what shows that a family may be under a curse or having God's disproval is untimely death especially of the children. If Muhammad had God's biggest blessings, why did his family quickly perish. All his sons and daughters died untimely.

Why did he beg Allah for forgiveness before he died? He should have expressed confidence like Jesus that he did God's will perfectly

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Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 3:48pm On Mar 15
Aemmyjah:


If the Prophet were alive today and practicing same behavior, he'll have been jailed as an cult figure
Personally, I don't rate him with Buddha and Jesus
You only rated him with the Jesus they portrayed for you!


I rate him with Napoleon, Bonafeountes, Hitler, Stalin... He killed, looted, kidnapped, raped, employed propagandist, a pedophile even asking sick men to heal themselves by drinking urine and milk of cow. When they did so, he removed their eyes and cut their limbs... I ask myself why would any sane person want to be like this Prophet?
We love him so much and you can die in your rage! You just tell lies brazenly on the Prophet! Where did you see urine and milk of cow? Lies upon Lies! Whose limbs was cut without committing any crime?


Studying his lifestyle, people that are perfectly following every aspects of the Prophet are terrorists... Like Muhammad, they kidnapped in mass numbers, raped, all kinds of nonsense and still praise Allah
Another season of lies! Show us who was raped and compare it to your Numbers 31 where genocide was committed and virgins spared and inherited!


Another question, in Africa, what shows that a family may be under a curse or having God's disproval is untimely death especially of the children. If Muhammad had God's biggest blessings, why did his family quickly perish. All his sons and daughters died untimely.
grin Talking about Children how many did John the Baptist have? Your God born Jesus but Jesus was barren right? grin

Allah grants whatever He wills to his slaves!

Why did he beg Allah for forgiveness before he died? He should have expressed confidence like Jesus that he did God's will perfectly
He is human he never claim to be God so he showed he needs God to forgive him. Jesus too put his head on the floor and prayed to God despite all his confidence you said he had!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 3:50pm On Mar 15
Kobojunkie:
He was cursed on the cross but He died and the curse of God does not remain after death— God's curses end in death. So, How can Christ be said to still be cursed since he is recorded to have died, and raised himself from the dead? undecided

Was your Christ ever cursed at all?

Yes!

Our own Christ was never cursed at all!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Kobojunkie: 4:40pm On Mar 15
AntiChristian:
■ Was your Christ ever cursed at all? Yes!
■ Our own Christ was never cursed at all!
Well, Christ had not to be cursed so that He may be able to take away the curse of sin from those whom He came to save — those who were cursed by God. You see, the God of Israel did not provide a way for the people of Israel to be saved from His curses from within His Old Law of Moses. And for Christ, Himself an Israelite, to proclaim that He could take the curse away, He not only had to have the curse but reveal His power over the curse. So, not only was Christ born by way of the original curse of sin like every human on the earth - Genesis 3 vs 16 - He was also cursed by the manner of His death — both curses were to bring down the power of death on Him for sure. By raising Himself from death, He proved Himself worthy as the Lamb of God, the way to redemption for all of those condemned by God of Israel, and revealed He was indeed the Eternal King promised. undecided

In the same way, God of Israel first proved Himself as an able God to the people of Isreal when He rescued them from Egypt and then led them into the Land of Canaan without them barely lifting a finger against their enemies, Jesus Christ also had to prove Himself as one capable of rescuing them from the curse placed on them by the God of Israel and that is what He did when He performed those many miracles, gave them power in His name, died and then raised even Himself from the grave. undecided

2. Your Christ has nothing to do with the Nation of God let alone the God of Israel. lipsrsealed
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:13pm On Mar 15
AntiChristian:
You only rated him with the Jesus they portrayed for you!


We love him so much and you can die in your rage! You just tell lies brazenly on the Prophet! Where did you see urine and milk of cow? Lies upon Lies! Whose limbs was cut without committing any crime?


Another season of lies! Show us who was raped and compare it to your Numbers 31 where genocide was committed and virgins spared and inherited!



grin Talking about Children how many did John the Baptist have? Your God born Jesus but Jesus was barren right? grin

Allah grants whatever He wills to his slaves!

He is human he never claim to be God so he showed he needs God to forgive him. Jesus too put his head on the floor and prayed to God despite all his confidence you said he had!


STOP wailing on top of a that man. He's possessed by a wicked Jinn. He himself doubted. His uncle and aunt were correct. Only his wife assured him it was Gabriel
Your Koran is filled with contradictions and extortion and violence
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:17pm On Mar 15
AntiChristian:
You only rated him with the Jesus they portrayed for you!


We love him so much and you can die in your rage! You just tell lies brazenly on the Prophet! Where did you see urine and milk of cow? Lies upon Lies! Whose limbs was cut without committing any crime?


Another season of lies! Show us who was raped and compare it to your Numbers 31 where genocide was committed and virgins spared and inherited!



grin Talking about Children how many did John the Baptist have? Your God born Jesus but Jesus was barren right? grin

Allah grants whatever He wills to his slaves!

He is human he never claim to be God so he showed he needs God to forgive him. Jesus too put his head on the floor and prayed to God despite all his confidence you said he had!


Jesus did not beg for forgiveness unlike ur Mohammed
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Aemmyjah(m): 4:07am On Mar 16
AntiChristian:
You only rated him with the Jesus they portrayed for you!


We love him so much and you can die in your rage! You just tell lies brazenly on the Prophet! Where did you see urine and milk of cow? Lies upon Lies! Whose limbs was cut without committing any crime?


Another season of lies! Show us who was raped and compare it to your Numbers 31 where genocide was committed and virgins spared and inherited!



grin Talking about Children how many did John the Baptist have? Your God born Jesus but Jesus was barren right? grin

Allah grants whatever He wills to his slaves!

He is human he never claim to be God so he showed he needs God to forgive him. Jesus too put his head on the floor and prayed to God despite all his confidence you said he had!


Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle . (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"

Even Islamic scholars did not deny Mohammed said so. They try to justify it
I'll soon create a thread regarding Mohammed and the Koran. I promise I'll post references to Quranic sources. It will be far heavier than all your misleading posts.
Marrying a 6 year old and consummating the marriage when she was 9
Teaching Muslims to have not more than 4 wives but he had thrice that number
Breaking his own laws regarding sex and marriage
Contradicting himself on freedom of worship
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 7:18am On Mar 17
Aemmyjah:



Jesus did not beg for forgiveness unlike ur Mohammed

It was recorded in your Bible that he prayed to God several times even putting his head on the ground!

Na your God dey pray to another God?

He also said he can by himself do nothing!

He has no power nor authority on his own!

So Jesus is nothing without God!
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 7:20am On Mar 17
Aemmyjah:



STOP wailing on top of a that man. He's possessed by a wicked Jinn. He himself doubted. His uncle and aunt were correct. Only his wife assured him it was Gabriel
Your Koran is filled with contradictions and extortion and violence

In your Bible Jesus was accused of being mad too.
Have you read that verse or make I show you?

Was he really mad as his family can't be wrong?
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by AntiChristian: 7:31am On Mar 17
Aemmyjah:



Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle . (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"

What's this above? Travelers who were affected by the weather were given food and medicine but they ended up killing shepherds and stole camels!

The punishment for killing and stealing was carried out on them! In Shari'a law this is the punishment for banditry in an islamic state!

Even Islamic scholars did not deny Mohammed said so. They try to justify it
I'll soon create a thread regarding Mohammed and the Koran. I promise I'll post references to Quranic sources. It will be far heavier than all your misleading posts.
Marrying a 6 year old and consummating the marriage when she was 9
Teaching Muslims to have not more than 4 wives but he had thrice that number
Breaking his own laws regarding sex and marriage
Contradicting himself on freedom of worship

This is just making a mountain out of a molehill!

What exactly did Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam say?

The one you quoted above is a Christian lie as usual.
Even if travelers enter your house and you feed them but they ended up killing your servants and stealing from you, you'll forgive them because Jesus said do! grin
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:10pm On Mar 17
AntiChristian:


What's this above? Travelers who were affected by the weather were given food and medicine but they ended up killing shepherds and stole camels!

The punishment for killing and stealing was carried out on them! In Shari'a law this is the punishment for banditry in an islamic state!



This is just making a mountain out of a molehill!

What exactly did Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam say?

The one you quoted above is a Christian lie as usual.
Even if travelers enter your house and you feed them but they ended up killing your servants and stealing from you, you'll forgive them because Jesus said do! grin


Muhammed killed innocent people that did not harm or threaten him but you guys teach he forgive all
Killed a woman in her sleep when a child was sucking


Camel urine is, was never will be medicine
Re: Can A Christian Still Be Under A Curse? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:12pm On Mar 17
AntiChristian:


It was recorded in your Bible that he prayed to God several times even putting his head on the ground!

Na your God dey pray to another God?

He also said he can by himself do nothing!

He has no power nor authority on his own!

So Jesus is nothing without God!


Jesus is not God
He's God's Son
Yes, he's nothing without God
Just as sons are nothing without a father


Only a mad man will loot, kill, kidnap, sleep with a girl that is not yet 10

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