As we all know. Women are angels.
They are the salt of the world.
The light of the world.
Without them, there will be nothing good in this world. Imma fact, they are the reason for this civilisation.
They are never capable of doing evil.
They don't cheat on their partners and even if they did. The men must be at fault.
Women get pregnant by mistake, so I understand they do get pregnant out of their will.
Pregnancy attach itself to married women, that's the reason they always don't know that the kid might not be their husbands'.

Therefore it will be a very wicked thing to request a DNA test from your wife.
I mean! She's too holy and faithful to be requested a thing of such. You know the way to the hospital so, why bother the innocent soul.

I think I now understand why women don't see the big deal in giving John's child to Ibrahim.

I think married men should also get a lady pregnant. Run a DNA test on the kid. Then bring the kid home to their wives.
They can tell their wives the kid belongs to a relative, or the kid was found at a dumpsite or road side or something.

Have the wife raise the kid until he is graduated and boom! Have the real mother show up to retrieve the child. Cook up a nice story to make the kid pity the biological mother and to insist emotions. You know what I'm saying?

The scenario above doesn't even match the level of paternity fraud.

BTW. Good can never conquer evil. Never!
No matter how much fine English we use.
The only language evil understands is another evil.
Look around you. This world belongs to evil people.

Therefore,
Drop your guard and you are dead.
Trust and you die.
kill before you get killed.
Attack as a form of defence.
You have to be more shameless to defeat the shameless.
A monster can only be defeated by a stronger monster.
Avenge your course.
The strong survives and the weak dies.
This is our reality, plain and simple.

Don't be an all round good person.

Good people are weak people.
Good people die early.
Good people are broke.
Good people are disrespected.
Good people are used.


"The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent taketh it by force"

Meanwhile, the devil was once an angel.

Women are angels.

You are trustworthy. Loyal to your wife. She loves you in return and is loyal to you. She gets pregnant, but your trust goes out the window and you request a DNA.

Can you see how she'd never trust you again, and likely love you no more?

Apart from the fact that they will rather die first than confess they've been fvcking someone else and there's chance the baby in their womb isn't urs.......

...A lot of women also dont see anything wrong with paternity fraud becos weda the child is urs or not....women will always see their sacrifice and ownership over the child as bigger than urs..

so at the end of the day the child is still technically theirs alone......and that's all that matters.... Doesn't matter who's paying the millions to raise the kid....

budaatum:
You are trustworthy. Loyal to your wife. She loves you in return and is loyal to you. She gets pregnant, but your trust goes out the window and you request a DNA.

Can you see how she'd never trust you again, and likely love you no more?

....so a man is just supposed to assume the kid is his because his wife will be angry? This is 2024 oooo..women fvck around for fun too,

.baba u fvnny...so u can't do DNA test without ur wife knowing??

FRANCISTOWN:
As we all know. Women are angels.
They are the salt of the world.
The light of the world.
Without them, there will be nothing good in this world. Imma fact, they are the reason for this civilisation.
They are never capable of doing evil.
They don't cheat on their partners and even if they did. The men must be at fault.
Women get pregnant by mistake, so I understand they do get pregnant out of their will.
Pregnancy attach itself to married women, that's the reason they always don't know that the kid might not be their husbands'.

Therefore it will be a very wicked thing to request a DNA test from your wife.
I mean! She's too holy and faithful to be requested a thing of such. You know the way to the hospital so, why bother the innocent soul.

I think I now understand why women don't see the big deal in giving John's child to Ibrahim.

I think married men should also get a lady pregnant. Run a DNA test on the kid. Then bring the kid home to their wives.
They can tell their wives the kid belongs to a relative, or the kid was found at a dumpsite or road side or something.

Have the wife raise the kid until he is graduated and boom! Have the real mother show up to retrieve the child. Cook up a nice story to make the kid pity the biological mother and to insist emotions. You know what I'm saying?

The scenario above doesn't even match the level of paternity fraud.

BTW. Good can never conquer evil. Never!
No matter how much fine English we use.
The only language evil understands is another evil.
Look around you. This world belongs to evil people.

Therefore,
Drop your guard and you are dead.
Trust and you die.
kill before you get killed.
Attack as a form of defence.
You have to be more shameless to defeat the shameless.
A monster can only be defeated by a stronger monster.
Avenge your course.
The strong survives and the weak dies.
This is our reality, plain and simple.

Don't be an all round good person.

Good people are weak people.
Good people die early.
Good people are broke.
Good people are disrespected.
Good people are used.


"The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent taketh it by force"

Meanwhile, the devil was once an angel.

Women are angels.

budaatum:
You are trustworthy. Loyal to your wife. She loves you in return and is loyal to you. She gets pregnant, but your trust goes out the window and you request a DNA.

Can you see how she'd never trust you again, and likely love you no more?

Thats exactly my point.
Why should you request a DNA from such a beautiful and innocent being that is incapable of evil.
Such an angel.

lagospropertiez:
■ In Igbo tradition, and even according to Nigerian law (you can look it up or ask a lawyer if you don't believe it) any child born within a marriage union belongs to both parties in that union. This protects the marriage from an outsider coming to claim any such children on the grounds that they were fathered by him (imagine a sperm donor for example)
So in the case of paternity fraud, both in Nigerian law and according to Igbo culture, a man can reject any bastard children, especially if the marriage is dissolved. But he has legal and traditional claim to the children as their father if he so chooses.
So for example, let's say that a man finds out that his 3 grown children born by his wife and loved and raised by him are not biologically his, legally, they remain his, even if their biological father shows up to claim them, unless he himself rejects them.

So, this means that thanks to the ancestors and traditions which many Nigerian men cling so strongly to, many are not even fathered by those they regard as their biological.

Acidosis:
I'm not against a DNA test o. But many of you are too focused on the paternity of your kids even while you're not sure whether the man you call father is your actual father. To imagine that paternity fraud started in your generation is the actual fraud. 🤣 You people are only venting now because of your emerging dislike towards younger Nigerian women. But that dislike and suspicion no dey ever reach una mama side.

Ancestors who gave us our traditional laws which we hold to to this day did not consider this fraudulent. They embraced it as part and parcel of the package that is marriage. The agreement called traditional marriage was built on the understanding that Paternity fraud is an acceptable part of the package — not criminal. So, as we pursue a future of DNA testing and criminalization of paternity fraud, shouldn't we equally abandon Traditional Law(the whole) where it concerns marriage in its entirety at the same time?

I am also not against DNA testing at all. I am just for common sense to reign even in this! Standing for criminalization of Paternity fraud sort of means standing against Traditional marriage. Are Nigeria boys ready for this ?

advanceDNA:
Apart from the fact that they will rather die first than confess they've been fvcking someone else and there's chance the baby in their womb isn't urs.......

...A lot of women also dont see anything wrong with paternity fraud becos weda the child is urs or not....women will always see their sacrifice and ownership over the child as bigger than urs..

so at the end of the day the child is still technically theirs alone......and that's all that matters.... Doesn't matter who's paying the millions to raise the kid....

That's why sometimes I appreciate some of the teachings of Allah, though I'm not a muslim.

Allah was saying to the prophet. He said (Transliterated) "O prophet, has your Creator , Allah not given unto you life and it's breathe and everything that is good for it? Therefore, isn't the grace and mercy of Allah sufficient for you? O prophet! Hear the word of your Creator, Allah. I have created the seas and the oceans and the lands and the herbs and the djinns and they that walk in the day, and in the night and what you see and what you do not see ... [a] ... The responsibility of keeping your life safe is on you. You must protect your own life at all cost ... Allah will not do that for you"

While dealing with women. One should remember one adage that says.
"The flood won't mind destroying the house, it's the owner that mustn't sit around doing nothing"

A woman will not mind pulling a fast one on you. You are the one that should always remain on guard.

A faithful woman will never see anything wrong in having a DNA test.

It is the harlots we have in the name of wives that are ready to die than agree to a DNA.

Men should be wise. A woman who committed paternity fraud is capable of killing you in that marriage. She can adopt any means necessary to eliminate you without trace to her involvement.

There is nothing wrong in being sure that your children are yours even when they resemble you.

Kick out an adulterous wife otherwise, you will be living on the edge.

Kobojunkie:
So, this means that thanks to the ancestors and traditions which many Nigerian men cling so strongly to, many are not even fathered by those they regard as their biological. Ancestors who gave us our traditional laws which we hold to to this day did not consider this fraudulent. They embraced it as part and parcel of the package that is marriage. The agreement called traditional marriage was built on the understanding that Paternity fraud is an acceptable part of the package — not criminal. So, as we pursue a future of DNA testing and criminalization of paternity fraud, shouldn't we equally abandon Traditional Law(the whole) where it concerns marriage in its entirety at the same time?

I am not also against DNA testing at all. I am not just for common sense to reign even in this!

Kobo, don't mind who posted that stuff you quoted o. I worked as a general secretary to a SAN and I also worked as on office assistant to a Professor of Law and an appointed state electoral chairman.

Therefore! I know a bit about Family Law, Law of Torts, Land law and property law and a bit about litigation skills.
One should be careful of what they read on NL these days. Some people are not really educated.

That person has only addressed his opinion according to the Igbo culture and please know that the law will not allow a custom or tradition that is repugnant to natural justice, equity and good conscience to prevail.

At best, the Court may not grant "Custody" of the child to the biological father because it cannot be guaranteed to be in the "best interest of the child ".

Be informed, that the Court has ruled in several cases that "a tradition that gives to another man a child that is not biologically his is repugnant to natural justice"

Customs and traditions are unknown to law! And in law, marrying a woman doesn’t make you a father of her children.

This happened during Nedu and his ex-wife saga. When he found out he was not the biological father of his kids. Do you know what the wife said?
She said she never told Nedu that the kids belonged to him, he only assumed those kids were his, because they were married. And it's true, legally she was right(No court or law could dispute that) but morally she was wrong. And mind you, law is law, irrespective of your moral standards.

For instance, there is a culture in a particular tribe that. If a man died, his next brother should automatically take his deceased brother's wife for himself, and the woman must not object. 😂 😂. If person go try that thing and the woman charge am for rape. Chai! Lol! Hin eyes go peel

Whether you are married to the woman or not, whether the woman got impregnated by another man while married to you or not.
As long as the biological father is alive, you are a step father and the step father cannot legally adopt the child unless there's a written, signed and stamped document proving the biological father is dead or/and does not want the child.

So that custom shit doesn't hold water in the Nigerian court of law. That's why men should test their kids before they raise them because whenever the biological father shows up, he can walk away with the child.

Therefore, some childish and barbaric custom laws don't work here ma.

Having the possession of something is different from having it's ownership

FRANCISTOWN:
■ Kobo, don't mind who posted that stuff you quoted o. I worked as a general secretary to a SAN and I also worked as on office assistant to a Professor of Law and an appointed state electoral chairman.
Therefore! I know a bit about Family Law, Law of Torts, Land law and property law and a bit about litigation skills.One should be careful of what they read on NL these days. Some people are not really educated. That person has only addressed his opinion according to the Igbo culture and please know that the law will not allow a custom or tradition that is repugnant to natural justice, equity and good conscience to prevail....

I am sorry, what? Go spew this nonsense where people no get sense! Jeeezzz! Is this not the same Nigeria where even Sharia is recognized?

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, what? Go spew this nonsense where people no get sense! Jeeezzz! Is this not the same Nigeria were even Sharia is recognized?

Section 275 of the federal Constitution allows for the creation of state Sharia Court of Appeals. The Sharia law is recognized in 3 out of the 6 geo-political zones in Nigeria.

However, In February 2015, the president-elect was asked about his stance on Sharia. He assuredly responded that “the problem is that the Nigerian constitution is superior."

Do you compare that with one childish ethnic law?
Who be this one?

Chapter 1. Part 1. Section 1. of the Nigerian Constitution. Supremacy of Constitution. Article 3.
•If any other law is inconsistent with the provision of this Constitution, this Constitution shall prevail, and the other law shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void.

At your emboldened, I knew you naturally lack 'nough brain power, I just didn't know it has become this bad.

I don't even know why any man would wanna lay claim to somebody else's kid to begin with. That's the highest level of disrespect any man could do to himself.

Have a good evening.

FRANCISTOWN:
■ Section 275 of the federal Constitution allows for the creation of state Sharia Court of Appeals. The Sharia law is recognized in 3 out of the 6 geo-political zones in Nigeria.
However, In February 2015, the president-elect was asked about his stance on Sharia. He assuredly responded that “the problem is that the Nigerian constitution is superior."
■ Do you compare that with one childish ethnic law? Who be this one? Chapter 1. Part 1. Section 1. of the Nigerian Constitution. Supremacy of Constitution. Article 3. •If any other law is inconsistent with the provision of this Constitution, this Constitution shall prevail, and the other law shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void.
At your emboldened, I knew you naturally lack 'nough brain power, I just didn't know it has become this bad. I don't even know why any man would wanna lay claim to somebody else's kid to begin with. That's the highest level of disrespect any man could do to himself. Have a good evening.

What in the world does a mere opinion expressed by a president-elect got to do with this?

2. Childish ethnic law which to this day is upheld every time customary marriage law in Nigeria is acknowledged in customary court in that same Nigeria? When you are ready to be serious, let me know!

Kobojunkie:
What in the world does a mere opinion expressed by a president-elect got to do with this?

2. Childish ethnic law which to this day is upheld every time customary marriage law in Nigeria is acknowledged in customary court in that same Nigeria? When you are ready to be serious, let me know!

Oh my Jeez! Whoa!

Lol! The president didn't express his opinion my daughter.

Have you ever seen the Nigerian constitution?
Do you even know how to interprete the constitution?

I guess you don't. That's the reason you didn't know know the president only interpreted the same section that I quoted up there.🤣🤣

@2. Have you been drinking? There is a provision for paternity case in the Nigerian constitution.

Therefore whatever the customary law is (If it's not consistent with the provision of the Nigerian Constitution. The Nigerian constitution shall prevail and such law shall be void)

Customary law is applicable, although with limitations(as I've stated above) and it is only applicable in civil matters.

Did you even understand what this statement mean: "the law will not allow a custom or tradition that is repugnant to natural justice, equity and good conscience to prevail...."?

Kobo, leave this discussion. Don't talk about what you don't know.

advanceDNA:

....so a man is just supposed to assume the kid is his because his wife will be angry?

I never said "because his wife will be angry", you'd find if you read me, which please bother to do going forward please thank you.

budaatum:

Can you see how she'd never trust you again, and likely love you no more?

advanceDNA:
This is 2024 oooo..women fvck around for fun too,

Forgive me. I thought we were talking about the woman one decided to marry after sifting through the worthless and not the one one "fvck around for fun".

advanceDNA:
.baba u fvnny...so u can't do DNA test without ur wife knowing??

Of course one can, lol. Can bug her phone too without her knowing and even follow to see where she goes, but I'd wonder why he married me though you think I will never recognise the obvious paranoia and trust issues.

FRANCISTOWN:

Thats exactly my point.
Why should you request a DNA from such a beautiful and innocent being that is incapable of evil.
Such an angel.

Neither of you are beautiful and innocent angels, but must we all be deceitful lying demons that is incapable of good?

Please know that I am not against DNA. Some should definitely check if na dem papa born dem.

budaatum:

I never said "because his wife will be angry"

ur words were she won't trust you..but if shes not angry...the trust issue won't come up

budaatum:

Forgive me. I thought we were talking about the woman one decided to marry after sifting through the worthless and not the one one "fvck around for fun".

forgive me, I also thought we are talking about modern dating era with sexual liberation even among women....even decent girls fvck around in 2024...

budaatum:

Of course one can, lol. Can bug her phone too without her knowing and even follow to see where she goes, but I'd wonder why he married me though you think I will never recognise the obvious paranoia and trust issues.

Obvious?? How will paranoia and trust issues be obvious.....he's just double checking.. ...double checking is like quality assurance audit..it's always a friendly check until there is a non-compliance issue...so u won't notice jack

advanceDNA:
ur words were she won't trust you..but if shes not angry...the trust issue won't come up.

forgive me, I also thought we are talking about modern dating era with sexual liberation even among women....even decent girls fvck around in 2024...

I've definitely not been angry and lost trust, and I can't be the only one I don't think, but I guess you got me with the "decent girls fvck around in 2024".

Makes me wonder, you poor dudes looking for wives today, you poors, if decent has so changed meaning in 2024 from what decent always meant, but I'm not in the least surprised considering you pi..., I mean men.

budaatum:

I've definitely not been angry and lost trust, and I can't be the only one I don't think, but I guess you got me with the "decent girls fvck around in 2024".

Makes me wonder, you poor dudes looking for wives today, you poors, if decent has so changed meaning in 2024 from what decent always meant, but I'm not in the least surprised considering you pi..., I mean men.

😒😒😒

No one says you can’t request a DNA test. You absolutely can. If she’s cheating then you won by uncovering it in the beginning before investing too much into the kid.

If she wasn’t cheating , now you’ve requested both a DNA test and a divorce. Maybe you still won. Because you wouldn’t be asking for a DNA test if you weren’t already tired of the marriage. In both cases I guess you won? 🤷🏽‍♀️

Just do whatever makes you happy bro

FRANCISTOWN:
As we all know. Women are angels.
They are the salt of the world.
The light of the world.
Without them, there will be nothing good in this world. Imma fact, they are the reason for this civilisation.
They are never capable of doing evil.
They don't cheat on their partners and even if they did. The men must be at fault.
Women get pregnant by mistake, so I understand they do get pregnant out of their will.
Pregnancy attach itself to married women, that's the reason they always don't know that the kid might not be their husbands'.

Therefore it will be a very wicked thing to request a DNA test from your wife.
I mean! She's too holy and faithful to be requested a thing of such. You know the way to the hospital so, why bother the innocent soul.

I think I now understand why women don't see the big deal in giving John's child to Ibrahim.

I think married men should also get a lady pregnant. Run a DNA test on the kid. Then bring the kid home to their wives.
They can tell their wives the kid belongs to a relative, or the kid was found at a dumpsite or road side or something.

Have the wife raise the kid until he is graduated and boom! Have the real mother show up to retrieve the child. Cook up a nice story to make the kid pity the biological mother and to insist emotions. You know what I'm saying?

The scenario above doesn't even match the level of paternity fraud.

BTW. Good can never conquer evil. Never!
No matter how much fine English we use.
The only language evil understands is another evil.
Look around you. This world belongs to evil people.

Therefore,
Drop your guard and you are dead.
Trust and you die.
kill before you get killed.
Attack as a form of defence.
You have to be more shameless to defeat the shameless.
A monster can only be defeated by a stronger monster.
Avenge your course.
The strong survives and the weak dies.
This is our reality, plain and simple.

Don't be an all round good person.

Good people are weak people.
Good people die early.
Good people are broke.
Good people are disrespected.
Good people are used.


"The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent taketh it by force"

Meanwhile, the devil was once an angel.

Women are angels.

Whose fault is that when you guys act like it’s an abomination to actually parent your own kids?

Anyway this is just me digressing.

And obviously not supporting one sided parenting but it seems to be what most guys want. Parenting style that doesn’t involve them actually being parents

advanceDNA:


so at the end of the day the child is still technically theirs alone......and that's all that matters......

cococandy:
Whose fault is that when you guys act like it’s an abomination to actually parent your own kids?

Anyway this is just me digressing.

And obviously not supporting one sided parenting but it seems to be what most guys want. Parenting style that doesn’t involve them actually being parents

Most guys.?? Abomination?? For starters ...Y'all have the birthing and nurturing advantage because nature handed it over to u during ontogenesis.....some of u even get more advantage because u are full time stay at home moms which give u more nurturing time....

So... I don't get what u mean by abomination when billions of father around the world are fighting all odds to provide for their child, care, protect, instill values, and so on..... (Yes..there are dead beat fathers just like there are dead beat mothers..infact if there is truly any gender that display abomination it's your gender that trashes their kid in the toilet and bush...

Anyways u only proved my earlier point...y'all always make whatever u do a bigger sacrifice.
Even right from the dating stage...one kiss and sex.... and y'all already start expecting the moon and sun in return

advanceDNA:


....so a man is just supposed to assume the kid is his because his wife will be angry? This is 2024 oooo..women fvck around for fun too,

.baba u fvnny...so u can't do DNA test without ur wife knowing??

Don't stress it brother. Budaatum is a woman

budaatum:


Neither of you are beautiful and innocent angels, but must we all be deceitful lying demons that is incapable of good?

Please know that I am not against DNA. Some should definitely check if na dem papa born dem.

I don check and I don confirm say na my papa born me.
Anyone who knows me real life knows that I'm capable of causing more harm than good.
It's better to assume everyone is evil and be on guard than to blindly trust people and be betrayed.

Men who discovered the kids they thought to be theirs aren't actually theirs after several years once trusted their women to be incapable of such evil.

advanceDNA:

even decent girls fvck around in 2024...

I wish to put this on NL Romance and Family ad panel and sponsor it for a year.

FRANCISTOWN:

Don't stress it brother. Budaatum is a woman

Man or woman....doesn't matter..my view/ comment on the matter remains the same

advanceDNA:

Man or woman....doesn't matter..my view/ comment on the matter remains the same

I mean say she be woman. She no fit reason the logic

Lol

FRANCISTOWN:


I mean say she be woman. She no fit reason the logic

I get what u mean.. and my comment still stands..
.. see ehnnn!! .....Its not like women don't get or can't be logical..... They just choose not to whenever they dealing other women's sons....

Baba... If u want to know how logical women are, just wait until their own son or brother is involved...A woman sees nothing wrong is wasting her husband's money on unnecessary things ..infact she sees it as her right for doing him the greatest "favour" in the universe i.e "giving" him sex & birthing kids .....but Wait until it's another woman is the one wasting her own son's money....

...no woman wants her husband to do DNA test.... especially if she was fvcking multiple men before chosing one after she got pregnant ....but she will gladly support her own son so that she will not be a grandmother backing a grandson that's not actually hers

FRANCISTOWN:
As we all know. Women are angels.
They are the salt of the world.
The light of the world.
Without them, there will be nothing good in this world. Imma fact, they are the reason for this civilisation.
They are never capable of doing evil.
They don't cheat on their partners and even if they did. The men must be at fault.
Women get pregnant by mistake, so I understand they do get pregnant out of their will.
Pregnancy attach itself to married women, that's the reason they always don't know that the kid might not be their husbands'.

Therefore it will be a very wicked thing to request a DNA test from your wife.
I mean! She's too holy and faithful to be requested a thing of such. You know the way to the hospital so, why bother the innocent soul.

I think I now understand why women don't see the big deal in giving John's child to Ibrahim.

I think married men should also get a lady pregnant. Run a DNA test on the kid. Then bring the kid home to their wives.
They can tell their wives the kid belongs to a relative, or the kid was found at a dumpsite or road side or something.

Have the wife raise the kid until he is graduated and boom! Have the real mother show up to retrieve the child. Cook up a nice story to make the kid pity the biological mother and to insist emotions. You know what I'm saying?

The scenario above doesn't even match the level of paternity fraud.

BTW. Good can never conquer evil. Never!
No matter how much fine English we use.
The only language evil understands is another evil.
Look around you. This world belongs to evil people.

Therefore,
Drop your guard and you are dead.
Trust and you die.
kill before you get killed.
Attack as a form of defence.
You have to be more shameless to defeat the shameless.
A monster can only be defeated by a stronger monster.
Avenge your course.
The strong survives and the weak dies.
This is our reality, plain and simple.

Don't be an all round good person.

Good people are weak people.
Good people die early.
Good people are broke.
Good people are disrespected.
Good people are used.


"The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent taketh it by force"

Meanwhile, the devil was once an angel.

Women are angels.

ok

FRANCISTOWN:
It's better to assume everyone is evil and be on guard than to blindly trust people and be betrayed.

I find it better not to assume anything about anyone unless one has evidence for one's assumption, and even then.

We are different folks with different strokes, I've found, and its unwise to give the wrong stroke to the wrong folks.

Besides, I'm not some ignorant bigot who just assumes an entire gender must be pigs that can't be trusted even if a lot of men can't be trusted.

FRANCISTOWN:

I mean say she be woman. She no fit reason the logic

Women no fit reason your logic, lol, but you at least recognise we have brains, I hope.