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Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 9:05am On Mar 07
Day 64 402 Birds Remaining (3 mortality)

All is well and good. Though exhausting most times, and barely able to take time off the project, I still find it quite interesting to see these little rascals grow up right in from of me.

Below are the pictures as promised.

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Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by RainMoreDFARMS(f): 9:52am On Mar 07
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Isn't that place to crowded for them?
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Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 11:19am On Mar 07
RainMoreDFARMS:
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Isn't that place to crowded for them?
Absolutely. Good observation.
All things being equal, I hope to move them to their pen this weekend by God's grace.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by safarifarms(m): 9:17am On Mar 08
jidestroud:
Episode 1. Ends...

So we wait till tomorrow. And least 1 forget, my choice of feed is New Hope 320 super starter. Price gotten: N13,200.
Lighting looks poor. If they were broilers I would expect performance not to be optimal.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 10:44am On Mar 08
safarifarms:

Lighting looks poor. If they were broilers I would expect performance not to be optimal.
Thanks for the observation.

That was an emergency light due to power outage. Trust me, the lighting in the brooder room is awesome. Nevertheless, such lights works just fine for Broilers too.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by safarifarms(m): 11:08am On Mar 08
jidestroud:

Sorry for the misconceptions... the syringe is used for measurements in most cases, and it is to be used with clean water to be given to the chicks. (Simply for precise measurement to avoid waste or under medication)
I think the needle would be the major source of confusion. If the medication is not the type you pull with needle through a rubber cover then I think the syringe alone is enough.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by safarifarms(m): 11:37am On Mar 08
jidestroud:
. . . It had to take to the death of one to make me come to my senses cry

Job done. It was indeed a tiring Saturday morning, after a fun filled TGIF-night, but we have got to prevent further deaths due to carelessness and laziness.
What is the size of this new space now?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by safarifarms(m): 11:40am On Mar 08
jidestroud:
In between Updates


Building Their Poultry House
Today I decided to go further by building a pen for the Birds so i can get their cages grin.
Walahi, country hard ooooo!!!! Prices of materials don over skyrocket. Nevertheless, God power carry am.
What is the size or dimension of this pen that is under construction?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by safarifarms(m): 11:44am On Mar 08
jidestroud:
Day 37 1 mortality (403 chicks in total)

Everything seems to be going according to plan. To the glory of God, it's now a bag feeding daily!!! cool... Feed prices are going off the chat. One could hardly work with a specific budget in Nigeria as we speak.

How did you get from 405-1 (mortality) to 403 birds? What happened to one other bird?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 10:41am On Mar 11
Another Lasota Vaccination day!!!

So far, so good.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 10:47am On Mar 11
Ooopse!!!

Day 68 402 Birds Remaining (3 mortality)

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Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by okoroemeka(m): 2:30pm On Mar 11
jidestroud:
Ooopse!!!

Day 68 402 Birds Remaining (3 mortality)
have you changed them to a bigger pen
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Lucas4903: 5:52pm On Mar 11
Just purchased five acres. Doing this in a big way. Your post have gingered me the more. Thanks a lot
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 12:06pm On Mar 21
Day 78 402 Birds Remaining (3 mortality)

Improvising for my birds. The current price of feeds is killing. It's time to find alternatives for my birds.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Fembleez1(m): 12:17am On Mar 23
jidestroud:
Day 78 402 Birds Remaining (3 mortality)

Improvising for my birds. The current price of feeds is killing. It's time to find alternatives for my birds.


Good job Sir. Please can 1.5 do this job, including feeding, vaccination and medication and at least 1 Farmhand for up to 5 months sir? Let us say for 200 birds?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Otiwaikuku: 1:31am On Mar 23
Lucas4903:
Just purchased five acres. Doing this in a big way. Your post have gingered me the more. Thanks a lot


Wow!
Congratulations.Which area and what rate did you buy?
I am interested in setting up a farm
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by DUKEOFIBADAN: 10:41am On Mar 23
Fembleez1:



Good job Sir. Please can 1.5 do this job, including feeding, vaccination and medication and at least 1 Farmhand for up to 5 months sir? Let us say for 200 birds?

NO
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 6:42pm On Mar 23
Fembleez1:



Good job Sir. Please can 1.5 do this job, including feeding, vaccination and medication and at least 1 Farmhand for up to 5 months sir? Let us say for 200 birds?
Hmmm...
Let's do the calculation together and find out if Yes or No.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Munzy14(m): 8:06pm On Mar 23
jidestroud:


Thanks for the feedback.

Nevertheless, I have budgeted a total sum of N1.4million for this project. Bulk of the capital goes into feeding which i feel would have been the little challenge I may be have experienced along the way. With that sorted out, na auto cruise I dey so...

See yah in 3months time. grin (by His Grace)
Jide greetings.

Weldone.
It's been a while on Agro section.

I had to comment based on the budget..For the project.
1.4M cannot take them home.

Though I came late to thread..I must appreciate you for what you do here..kudos!

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Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Fembleez1(m): 8:55pm On Mar 23
jidestroud:

Hmmm...
Let's do the calculation together and find out if Yes or No.


Okay sir. Where do we start from sir? BTW, I plan to rent a farm in Ibadan. It is about 100k.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by goadson82: 9:18pm On Mar 23
I need a farm for poultry in Ibadan too. Can you recommend? I live around ring road area in Ibadan.

Okay sir. Where do we start from sir? BTW, I plan to rent a farm in Ibadan. It is about 100k. [/quote]
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Fembleez1(m): 9:45pm On Mar 23
DUKEOFIBADAN:


NO

What is the basis for your assertion sir?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Otiwaikuku: 11:08pm On Mar 23
Good day all, Jide thanks for the good job,many of us are getting educated and encouraged by your great job.
Pls we can see that one of the major constraint in this farming business is adequate capital and knowledge of the best practices in the business.Pls is there ways/means like minds can pull resources together so we can maximize the profits in this business?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 9:37am On Mar 24
Fembleez1:



Okay sir. Where do we start from sir? BTW, I plan to rent a farm in Ibadan. It is about 100k.

Okay...

200 birds would cost you approximately N140k (using the current price @ 700 per chick). Since you are in Ibadan, it could be cheaper)

Drugs & multivitamins, budget N20k. Yes 20k.

Vaccines, 25k will do just fine.

Now to feeding...
1.5kg per bird for 4 weeks i.e 200×1.5 = 300kg
That's approx 12 bags for the 1st 1month.

Depending on the type of feeds used; New Hope 320 over here is now approx. N15,950
i.e 15,950 × 12 bags = N191,400

Approximately same will go for 8weeks of age, N191,400

So far for the first 2 months, you would have spent N382,800 on feeding.

From 9weeks of age, you should start feeding appx a bag per day. cheesy

That is 31 × 13,,800 for the New Hope 321 bag
= 179,400 monthly. That is 3rd, 4th & 5th month... 179,400 x 3 = N538,200

So total money spent so far is N 538,200 + 382,800 + 20,000 + 25,000 + 140,000 = 1,106,000.

Let say, you even pad your budget with 300k extra, 1.5million will go a long way and Yes, it is possible to do the 5months with it.

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Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by jidestroud(m): 12:11pm On Mar 24
All I have stated above is for the worst possible outcome for 200 birds. Trust me, production cost could even be way lesser...
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Peetaa12: 4:27pm On Mar 25
1.5 would do if you have available housing, available labor, and you don't intend to brand your eggs.


Fembleez1:



Good job Sir. Please can 1.5 do this job, including feeding, vaccination and medication and at least 1 Farmhand for up to 5 months sir? Let us say for 200 birds?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Fembleez1(m): 8:06pm On Mar 25
jidestroud:


Okay...

200 birds would cost you approximately N140k (using the current price @ 700 per chick). Since you are in Ibadan, it could be cheaper)

Drugs & multivitamins, budget N20k. Yes 20k.

Vaccines, 25k will do just fine.

Now to feeding...
1.5kg per bird for 4 weeks i.e 200×1.5 = 300kg
That's approx 12 bags for the 1st 1month.

Depending on the type of feeds used; New Hope 320 over here is now approx. N15,950
i.e 15,950 × 12 bags = N191,400

Approximately same will go for 8weeks of age, N191,400

So far for the first 2 months, you would have spent N382,800 on feeding.

From 9weeks of age, you should start feeding appx a bag per day. cheesy

That is 31 × 13,,800 for the New Hope 321 bag
= 179,400 monthly. That is 3rd, 4th & 5th month... 179,400 x 3 = N538,200

So total money spent so far is N 538,200 + 382,800 + 20,000 + 25,000 + 140,000 = 1,106,000.

Let say, you even pad your budget with 300k extra, 1.5million will go a long way and Yes, it is possible to do the 5months with it.

Thank you so much for your kind response sir. Your calculations above did not take into consideration the cost of labour for each month sir. Will 1 Farmhand be fine? And what do you think is a fair wage per month for a Farmhand? Also, the drugs and vaccines calculation is per month or for the whole production period?


Secondly, I noticed you mentioned feeding 1 bag per day from 9 weeks up. Though I know that is currently what your chickens consume (400). Are you stating 1 bag per day for me too, for 200 chicks as a worst case scenario?

I noticed also that your calculation of 31 bags per month x 13,800 is lesser than the actual figure. I presume that was an oversight sir?

Once again, I am very grateful for your breakdown of things to me. God bless you sir.

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Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Fembleez1(m): 8:10pm On Mar 25
goadson82:
I need a farm for poultry in Ibadan too. Can you recommend? I live around ring road area in Ibadan.

Okay sir. Where do we start from sir? BTW, I plan to rent a farm in Ibadan. It is about 100k.

I believe you were trying to quote me. I did not get the mention since you did it wrongly. I am speaking with my friend who knows someone in Ibadan that does poultry and knows about sourcing land for rent and sales.

I should be in Ibadan this weekend. I will try to inquire and give you feedback sir.

Please in case I don't remember to get you a response by 31st, kindly mention me sir.
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Fembleez1(m): 8:15pm On Mar 25
Peetaa12:
1.5 would do if you have available housing, available labor, and you don't intend to brand your eggs.



I intend hiring 1 Farmhand? What is branding of eggs sir?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Peetaa12: 9:40pm On Mar 25
Okay, the farmhand should be an animal lover

By branding, I meant creating a name for your egg business that will make you stand out. But you would inqure more production costs for packaging and marketing. You can do without branding.


Fembleez1:


I intend hiring 1 Farmhand? What is branding of eggs sir?
Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Fembleez1(m): 10:06pm On Mar 25
Peetaa12:
Okay, the farmhand should be an animal lover

By branding, I meant creating a name for your egg business that will make you stand out. But you would inqure more production costs for packaging and marketing. You can do without branding.



Okay. Do you have a rough guess of what pay for a Farmhand should be per month?

Oh, I get that now. I can get that done. Thank you so much sir.

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