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Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by Misterone: 6:28pm On Mar 30
abdeefggh:
You want to build a new Nigeria but you can't even put that small party in order.
Its like trying to build a house without blocks or laborers, how?
Even if you are made president, are you going be everywhere and do everything yourself?



I pity the re.tards taking you serious because you are just going to waste their time and life!
This is the same way he failed woefully in anambra state but he thinks he can get it right with Nigeria. Someone that failed woefully in school cert want to graduate in a tertiary institution with first class! Funny man
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by IfnobeGod20: 7:05pm On Mar 30
emkz:


You used one word more than twice: "POWER". If you read me and understood me, I was more on the side of "INFLUENCE".

Do you remember when Tinubu shouted against Oyegun? Was Oyegun not removed?

I believe you read Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power. Law number 1 says: "Never outshine your master". As president, Buhari was expected to weild more influence than Tinubu. Infact, it was Tinubu's influence that removed Oyegun and brought in Oshiomole. One reason Oshiomole was removed by the party was that they saw him as someone doing Tinubu's bidding.

Tinubu had to pull back when Buhari stepped in and sacked Oshiomole's exco.

Now didn't the same Tinubu weird his influence later when he had to fight against Buhari for the party ticket with the emilokan speech? After that speech, my respect for Tinubu went up. Even if he had lost, he'd have gone down as a man of courage ready to fight for what he believed in.

Peter Obi is too gentle. He has a lot of influence and can turn things around in Labour Party by insisting on what he wants. Before doing that, he has to get NLC and TUC on his side. By backing him, he'd oust Abure and install a more decent leadership on LP.

With his nonchalant attitude, Abure sees himself as untouchable and would ruin the party.

Noisemakers like Aisha Yesufu, Pat Utomi and the Twitter mob are waiting to see the direction Peter Obi would take. You cant tell me they are pleased with Abure.

Do you now understand the difference between power and influence? If you have influence, those in power would fear you.

It is still this same influence Atiku lacks. Tinubu had a lot of influence when he was out of power that governors respected him and toed his political leadership. The excuses you are making for Atiku are not sufficient.
It wasn't because Tinubu shouted on Oyegun that he was changed. Oyegun finished his first term but the party did not renew his second term because it was during convention that his replacement was voted for. Before his replacement the party was having internal wrangling and they were having issues in many states of the federation and the party was tilting toward collapse because of lackadaisical attitude towards the management of the party. That's just the story.
You may be right, as one of the reasons Oshiobaba was removed was because they saw him doing the bidding of Tinubu but in another flip, some of his NWC saw him as a sole administrator and doesn't carry them along in the business of the party and they had to ganged up against him. Another ache that caused his ouster was his double standard against Obaseki, that many members of the party warned him about but he was adamant and Obaseki used his state machinery from his local government to punctured him. That particular scheme, he could not recovered from it. The appeal court nailed his coffin.

You said, Tinubu fought against Buhari. Tinubu didn't fight against Buhari but fought against his own party when he saw the handwriting on the wall that they want to scheme the primary against him. If Buhari was his type and he wants to play politics the way Tinubu always play it, he would not have won that primary. He would have schemed it against him but Buhari played safe and allowed thing to fly. If he had fought against him directly, he would have lost the primary gallantly.
Again, he was able to win because nof the religion game played by some party faithfuls and MURIC. MURIC was at the forefront of campaign of calumny against Christian candidate for the presidency and since Tinubu won the election, same MURIC have gone to hiding.

The way you people are comparing Tinubu influence in APC with Obi influence in LP is laughable. Tinubu have his lieutenants scatter in APC and he has planted them in strategic places because they are in government, he gets first hand info from them but such cannot be said of Obi. Peter Obi doesn't have control of LP leadership. The leadership has been in place before his arrival and again he doesn't have any post in LP till date. Tinubu is said to be the APC National leader, members of the party use that one to reference him and respect him. What you're seeing outside is not what you're seeing inside when you don't have minute control of the party because of individual self interest. If Peter Obi go beyond his bound I am telling you he will be bruise. If you read keenly what he said, he said Abure refused to do the right thing and that was why he absconded the convention. Meaning he must have told Abure to carry everyone along but he refused. You may even be surprised, he might have sent overture to Ajaero, which that one may declined because of political intrigue and the dead end.
However, I want to tell you that their issue will be sorted out in no distance time, if they can do away with external influence.
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by wales4real(m): 7:46pm On Mar 30
Olodo.
He's just an ordinary trader, not a leader. Simple.
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by wales4real(m): 8:14pm On Mar 30
Let's assume, and just assume he becomes President, will he ignore the Nigerians behaving same way as LP is doing and not put them to order? Are they not also Nigerians he would be governing or will he create a different country for them and keep only the "saints" he can control under his government? Think twice bro, charity begins at home. Obi lacks that leadership quality.

Zeezenho:


Obi is not the party chairman. You can direct y our venom to the people responsible for the party.

Obi refuse to participate in illegality Abi na by force?
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by Kurugu92(m): 8:25pm On Mar 30
abdeefggh:
You want to build a new Nigeria but you can't even put that small party in order.
Its like trying to build a house without blocks or laborers, how?
Even if you are made president, are you going be everywhere and do everything yourself?
See guyman wants to build Nigeria,if he knows what is in that aso rock ,he will understand to build a country of over 200 millions needs tutoring . Northern elites,jihadist and even cabal will makes you know Nigeria can't be gorvern by interest.


I pity the re.tards taking you serious because you are just going to waste their time and life!

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Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by Zeezenho: 8:35pm On Mar 30
wales4real:
Let's assume, and just assume he becomes President, will he ignore the Nigerians behaving same way as LP is doing and not put them to order? Are they not also Nigerians he would be governing or will he create a different country for them and keep only the "saints" he can control under his government? Think twice bro, charity begins at home. Obi lacks that leadership quality.


Ask your self why is it only LP that its in crisis?

The party problem is artificial targeted at obi. he is handling it the best way, his way of problem solving is not what you guys expected.that fan you know see why he is obi the special one.
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by IfnobeGod20: 8:53pm On Mar 30
wales4real:
Let's assume, and just assume he becomes President, will he ignore the Nigerians behaving same way as LP is doing and not put them to order? Are they not also Nigerians he would be governing or will he create a different country for them and keep only the "saints" he can control under his government? Think twice bro, charity begins at home. Obi lacks that leadership quality.

There is a clear difference between what you have and you don't have. If he is a president, an authority has been repose in him but for now he is not the leader of LP, he is just an ordinary member like others and their former presidential candidate. He has no portfolio to bank on. He can only do settling at the background, as you people want him to go public. If he tries it, he will rock the bolt and the result will be fatal, because he is not chosen by any organ of the party as a leader of the party. Even Tinubu that was supposedly named APC National Leader couldn't resolved APC internal wranglings then that almost consumed the party, that they have to lose many states to oppositions and their National Chairman axed.
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by Zeezenho: 9:08pm On Mar 30
wales4real:
Let's assume, and just assume he becomes President, will he ignore the Nigerians behaving same way as LP is doing and not put them to order? Are they not also Nigerians he would be governing or will he create a different country for them and keep only the "saints" he can control under his government? Think twice bro, charity begins at home. Obi lacks that leadership quality.


He is not EP chairman.obi is a man of due process.inec is there to make things right.what obi did is and example of good leadershi

Like you said if he is the president and such thing happens.from his body language he will hold the relevant agencies responsible to make things right. His approach towards this crisis is more than commendable.i give him 10 over 10.
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by commoditiesnig: 9:25pm On Mar 30
hakeemhakeem:
It's a big flaw to the party for a presidential candidate to ignored a convention that produces national chairman,he has power to halt the conversations not to hold
Very true. I was surprised he ignored it
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by Halo22: 10:17pm On Mar 30
I'm completely disappointed by this statement from Mr Peter Obi, for the first time. How could someone who excelled via the same party in the last election make such assertion? If not for any other thing, the party has a state, about 10 senators, about 50 House of Reps members as well as State Assembly members. What I expected from him was to come up with some reconcilable statements and not to play safe, allowing the party to sink. Let him not allow what Victor Oye talked about his political career becomes his destiny. There is time to man up and embrace responsibilities and that is what he should do Asap.

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Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by sorepco(m): 10:44pm On Mar 30
Why is he a dull man?


Fkmodhi:
This man is too dull
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by wales4real(m): 1:14am On Mar 31
Brother leave that talk! He has the influence to use his reconciliatory and conflict management skills in the party if he's got.
Are the LP executives up to 20 members? If the acclaimed presidential candidate of the party couldn't put the party together, how then can such person govern over 200m Nigerians?

IfnobeGod20:

There is a clear difference between what you have and you don't have. If he is a president, an authority has been repose in him but for now he is not the leader of LP, he is just an ordinary member like others and their former presidential candidate. He has no portfolio to bank on. He can only do settling at the background, as you people want him to go public. If he tries it, he will rock the bolt and the result will be fatal, because he is not chosen by any organ of the party as a leader of the party. Even Tinubu that was supposedly named APC National Leader couldn't resolved APC internal wranglings then that almost consumed the party, that they have to lose many states to oppositions and their National Chairman axed.
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by IfnobeGod20: 5:16am On Mar 31
wales4real:
Brother leave that talk! He has the influence to use his reconciliatory and conflict management skills in the party if he's got.
Are the LP executives up to 20 members? If the acclaimed presidential candidate of the party couldn't put the party together, how then can such person govern over 200m Nigerians?

Continue as you want to impress your own ideology to win argument, forgetting that there are guidelines and protocols to everything. Mr. Man, it is not easy as you think, if it is easy PDP will not be having issue till date, Atiku would have resolved all their contending issues. Same with APC. Or you want to tell me APC are not having internal wranglings? There own is even much than any party, what is still keeping the party together is because they are still ruling. If they lose that leadership today, that bond holding them will utterly destroy. No party that doesn't have conflict in Nigeria till date because of self interest and external influence. Cool temper, all will be sorted out.
Re: LP Crisis: I Didn’t Promise To Build New Party – Peter Obi On Convention by Slurity(m): 3:49pm On Mar 31
christejames:
The People's President! Ride on sir!
President of the Igbos.

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