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Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Frigga13: 6:21pm On Apr 06 |
Penguin2: Listen good .. Free and fair of all fair conducted by best of humanity Obi will lose .. He will lose and still lose .. Obi will only win .. when he’s contesting with him self or someone of no intend and character. Keep telling youry What you wish to hear .. Reality is different .. You can stake you money on it ... if care not take. .. soludo will get it before Obi.. Yes.. I’m telling you nigeria reality and not your wish Obi is a deep religious bigot..you guys are clinging to him because you think he’s the best of igbos .. Wait make another Igbo with credibility among this politicians comes up against Obi.. Na when you go know say .. is on his own .. You see Kanu and Ekpa.. you believe if kanu comes out tomorrow Ekpa will join him7 You just understand reality.. a lot is involved and interest from so many quarters .. when it comes to regional politics you obidients are playing Truth will be bare .. unclothe.. |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Penguin2: 7:17pm On Apr 06 |
garfield1:I don’t think Akume as SGF has benefited the ordinary Benue man in any way that would make them like Tinubu. You and I know that Tinubu won Benue because of the Alia effect. If Fr Alia’s posturing changes in 2027, Tinubu will struggle to make 25% in Benue in 2027. Besides, Benue people are still being massacred in their sleep. In Rivers, all those pledging of loyalty to Tinubu you see those guys doing is because they know they can’t fight powers that be. They know if they come out to openly stand against Tinubu it might be counterproductive because Tinubu might decide to align with Wike to dislodge Fubara in a very brutish manner and nothing will really happen. So, pledging loyalty to Tinubu is just to not make him apprehensive. But you and I know that neither Secondus nor Lee Maeba nor Omehia can control even 2% of Rivers voters. They will vote where they wanna vote in 2027 irrespective of who pledges loyalty to whom. Will Okpebholo win Edo? Anything is possible. But I like the fact you admitted that not even Okpebholo as a sitting governor can change much about Edo people’s voting pattern in general election. Even Oshiomole couldn’t do it. Doesn’t matter what happens in Cross River, Obi will win again and even Bayelsa won’t be rigged for Atiku again. Most of those who were rigging for Atiku were doing it because they thought Obi didn’t stand a chance. But having seen how far Obi went despite their rigging against him, they now know that Obi can do it and nobody would be taking his votes and be giving to another candidate like Udom and Diri did last year. Then ultimately, add the general disenchantment of the Nigerian people against Tinubu. The mass hunger, increased inflation, inhuman policies, etc. Except these policies yield unprecedented results before 2027, Tinubu will struggle even in Southwest. |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Penguin2: 7:29pm On Apr 06 |
Frigga13:It’s so nauseating that despite everything you see around Obi, you are still labouring so hard to restrict him as an Igbo project even when you know he’s not. Obi’s popularity is not because he’s Igbo but because he’s the best Nigerian alive. Or which other Igbo with your so called integrity will come and dislodge Obi? Soludo that has damaged himself in Anambra and in the entire Igboland forever? Who will vote for him? Besides, what has he done in Anambra? Or is it Umahi? What integrity or capacity does Umahi have to be rated above Obi by anyone in Igboland? Or are you talking about an Igbo politician that is not yet born? I think I’m just wasting my time with you sha. Because I remember you swore Atiku was the next president after Buhari, where is he today? You swore Obi will lose Anambra, what happened? Now you are back to telling me how Obi will not win Southeast again while northern powerbrokers are already aligning with him. And you want me to take you seriously? |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Frigga13: 7:36pm On Apr 06 |
Penguin2: Tor We’re Nigerians and Insha Allah we will alive to see time and events |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 8:38pm On Apr 06 |
Do you have something personal against Obi? Because this looks like hatred! Frigga13: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by garfield1: 8:41pm On Apr 06 |
Penguin2: When I told you that Alia will help tinubu win in benue,did you agree,so why are you agreeing now? Does that not show you how good I am at analyzing and why you should stop arguing blindly. How many political posts favour the masses? Does that stop the masses from following the politicians? Did buhari govt favour the north.tjis thing is not about favouring the masses but having a sense of belonging and not feel marginalized.everu tribe wants to have their people at Abuja whether it favours them or not. The tivs have been frozen out of national politics for years and idomas are the ones enjoying so now that they are there,they are grateful afterall they expected nothing.the tivs do not seem to like SE from what I am seeing.upon all the killings under buhari,did buhari not almost win benue? You still don't understand how voters reason... Bayelsa was not rigged,I told you that obi worst performance in ss will be from bayelsa and aks.tje ijaws don't seem to fancy your area and the obidients fire never penetrated there.diri is somehow close to Tinubu so expect same narrow and useless result.even if obi wins CRS,it will be lower and meaningless.he will still lose aks by a bigger margin.if okpebholo wins,APC will get more support in esan thereby weakening obi. The rigging in rivers really discouraged rivers voters and fubara is currying tinubu support.obi may still win SS but it will be meaningless.outside Lagos,obi will be buried as usual plus the core north.obi can not recover the deficit with the 5 SE states which tinubu can even supprezs |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Sannisege: 8:47pm On Apr 06 |
Igbos no wan gree say Tinubu na their master any day anytime. All Tinubu wanted in 2023 elections was for igbos not to vote for PDP, so he gave them Obi and the mugus fell for it. Tinubu na una papa any day anytime. He will give una another format in 2027. 1 Like |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 8:50pm On Apr 06 |
LP is different from Obidients. Nigerians believe in Obi as a person and not LP Judgementa1: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 8:52pm On Apr 06 |
You keep repeating this nonsense of Elrufai being messiah. Obidients have not accepted Elrufai and there's a possibility he might be accepted out of expediency and not because they see him differently. It was same way Tinubu accepted Buhari whom he had written of as a bigot in the past helinues: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by helinues: 8:53pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: Why not go through the thread. Speak for yourself |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:02pm On Apr 06 |
I kno Obidients have not accepted Elrufai. I'm in many Obidients forums even on X, stop pushing a narrative that does not exist for now. Accepting Elrufai will be out of expediency because Tinubu has already made plans to rig the 2027 election so a more formidable force is required. If elections were to be free and fair, Obi will defeat Tinubu a 1000 times without campaigning and you know it helinues: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Penguin2: 9:05pm On Apr 06 |
garfield1:You say these things because everywhere is still quiet because it’s not election time yet. When election time arrives and this hunger everywhere hasn’t subsided, you will see that Tinubu will be scorched out of Aso Rock and no rigging will help him. I’m sure no Imam would be stupid enough to still preach the gospel of M.M ticket to northerners if he doesn’t wanna be unfortunate. So, while I admit that a lot of things might still happen between now and 2027 to change the variables of the polity, I posit that most of them will work in Obi’s favour than they would in Tinubu’s. |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by helinues: 9:05pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: Are you more Obidients than the op? |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Judgementa1: 9:09pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: If Nigerians believe in Obi, then how come all the candidates obi has supported and campaign for after the presidential election have lost . |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:10pm On Apr 06 |
Go and read past comments of Tinubu against Buhari but when it became clear that he needs Buhari to remove GEJ, he worked with him. Doesnt mean he considered Bubu as the messiah, its just an alliance of necessity. Same way if Obi were to work with Elrufai, doesn't mean we no longer consider Elrufai a bigot, only means we're willing to work with him for the greater good. helinues: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:12pm On Apr 06 |
Before Obi joined LP, how many Governors, Reps, Senators and house of Assembly members does LP have? Judgementa1: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Judgementa1: 9:18pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: Mimiko was a two term governor of ondo under labour party And also labour party had 4 elected senators and 8 house of representatives members in 2011 |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by garfield1: 9:19pm On Apr 06 |
Penguin2: You still don't understand nigerians.no matter tinubu performance,a lot of people have biases against obi.the north will never choose obi against tinubu.no southerner has ever gotten votes in core north except those with mm ticket.the imams will still not preach for obi On election day,tinubu will bring out money and a lot will still vote him.the who is who in Nigeria are all friendly with Tinubu |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:20pm On Apr 06 |
Answer the question intelligently. When Obi joined LP, how many governors, Reps, Senators, House of Assembly members did he met? Judgementa1: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:21pm On Apr 06 |
This is an Obidient space currently on that I'm in helinues:
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Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Judgementa1: 9:21pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: Why are u trying to be clever by half u said before. |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:23pm On Apr 06 |
Obi met non...what LP has today is because of Obi so how dare you imply that Obi has no political value? Judgementa1: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by helinues: 9:24pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: Are those on this thread who are known to Obidients have not cross carpet to Apc or Pdp. Cos I don't understand what your argument is all about. Is this the first thread suggesting Peter Obi/ El Rufai ticket? |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:27pm On Apr 06 |
I'm saying Obidients do not see Elrufai as someone they'd embrace all of a sudden. Even if Obidients eventually accept him, they'd do so out of expediency and with caution, so making it look like Obidients are now glorifying Elrufai is pushing a mischievous narrative helinues: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Judgementa1: 9:28pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: Labour has 4 senators and 8 house of rep in 2011. Nothing is special in what obi achieve with labour party, mimiko achieve the same when the party have fewer support. I ask how many candidates obi campaign for after the presidential election won their election |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:31pm On Apr 06 |
The governors have been writing results in collaboration with INEC but because Obi is the target of Obidients, nobody is putting much energy into that. Watch out for Edo and Anambra elections. Was there no election in 2015 and 2019? What did LP get? Judgementa1: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Judgementa1: 9:39pm On Apr 06 |
DMerciful: You do not have evidence with what u just said. And if labour fail to win Edo state which is one of their stronghold then it game over. |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Penguin2: 9:40pm On Apr 06 |
garfield1:That’s why Obi is in the north. Between now and 2027, he shall have considerably cleared some of the fallacies tagged on his person and lowered the defenses of some powerbrokers in the core north. One of the reasons they closed their eyes and allowed Tinubu rig his way to power was because Obi wanted to get to power without them and that would have meant they wouldn’t have any control over him or extract any commitment from him. Those things will change in 2027. |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Penguin2: 9:42pm On Apr 06 |
Judgementa1:How many governors did Labour Party have when Obi won 12 states in 2023? |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by DMerciful(m): 9:44pm On Apr 06 |
You act like you're new in Nigeria! No evidence that Yahaya Bello, Hooe Uzodinma wrote results? Common! Judgementa1: |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Judgementa1: 9:47pm On Apr 06 |
Penguin2: And u believe north will allow obi another 8yrs after tinubu. |
Re: Apart From The Southwest, Where Else Is Tinubu’s Support Base? by Abbeytoy(m): 9:48pm On Apr 06 |
Penguin2: Tinubu has not even completed a full four-year term, and you are already writing him off. Yes, I understand that things may be difficult for him politically right now, but he is still the president and has complete control over the country's resources. All those bases you think he's losing appear to be so because he didn't give them what they thought they deserved, and when he did, they will all started singing praise songs. Don't forget that 24 hours is too long in politics, and Tinubu isn't just known as Jagaban for nothing. Wait for the next election campaigns, and see what politics is all about. I rest. |
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