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Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by barrysome001: 12:00am On Apr 12
Cooleasy:


Good points, bros.
But I have a layman's question: can solar power hot plate, big freezer and pumping machine? Most people that use solar; I see then using it to power only light. Can solar power other utilities?

Yes it can but would require more infrastructure (more capacity arrangements- More solar panels, higher Inverter rating, more batteries etc) so people hardly use solar for those inductive and non-linear loads.

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Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 12:38am On Apr 12
post=129390577:
A better Nigeria is what we want,.not all these political shenanigans and roforofo fights.

GOD BLESS NIGERIA
Where is the political shenanigan

Stop spamming every thread with your meaningless copy and paste
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 12:51am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

You see that point 2 is a lame excuse.

There can never be power on an 11kV feeder without power on the corresponding 33kV feeder.

That was a lame buy out of their fault. If you fail to give power to a 33kV feeder, how can IBEDC give power to their ISS that will transform the power to 11kV feeders.

But Nigerians that don't know this things will just start blaming the DISCO.

If only Nigerians know that most limitations faced by DISCOs are caused by this TCN guys. They are always playing defensive.
But point 2 never said there was no power supply to the 11kV

And 4 says IBEDC officials were called to witness the fault location and they agreed it falls under them
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by barrysome001: 1:09am On Apr 12
Kukutenla:

But point 2 never said there was no power supply to the 11kV

And 4 says IBEDC officials were called to witness the fault location and they agreed it falls under them
So let me educate you (if you don't know)
If there is load limitation at a transmission station where the 33kv feeder emanates from, the corresponding 11kv feeders tied to the 33kV feeders are turned off, for balance.

Who knows if this was the case? So it is not out of place for a DISCO to say TCN is the reason why they couldn't supply 20Hrs power on a band A 11kv feeder, if a similitude applies.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 1:26am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

So let me educate you (if you don't know)
If there is load limitation at a transmission station where the 33kv feeder emanates from, the corresponding 11kv feeders tied to the 33kV feeders are turned off, for balance.

Who knows if this was the case? So it is not out of place for a DISCO to say TCN is the reason why they couldn't supply 20Hrs power on a band A 11kv feeder, if a similitude applies.
Who turns it off? TCN or the Disco?

Besides, you just made a conjecture not based on facts. TCN said Ibadan Disco officials were present and they agreed as to who is responsible so why are you still making excuses for the Disco

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Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Equity15(m): 1:45am On Apr 12
veekid:
I hate when good looking people live in weird places wym you are in azare bauchi?
Azare is a nice place. They were even advocating for an independent state from bauchi
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Segxydube: 3:04am On Apr 12
erniok:

Na so you dey take judge your own case? Flog innocent and guilty one together? Na wa for you ohh.

So who is innocent and guilty among them? No be tge two of them dey blame each other abi u no sabi read?
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Segxydube: 3:05am On Apr 12
erniok:

Na so you dey take judge your own case? Flog innocent and guilty one together? Na wa for you ohh.

So who is innocent and guilty among them? No be the two of them dey blame each other abi u no sabi read?
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Btruth: 4:31am On Apr 12
I hate IBEDC with passion.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by IamAsiri: 5:18am On Apr 12
IBEDC are the worst distribution company you can ever encounter. How can someone who has not used electricity for the past 4 years and has been actively topping his meter account so that it is reading CR be owing close to 500 thousand naira? Are these people smoking skunk. Come and read the meter, you said no, you are not interested. Are these people just bent on ripping people off or what, because I don't understand them in any way whatsoever.

That IBEDC is just full of so many pompous idiots who think they are gods in their own right. Unfortunately, some people have the money to move out of their stupid grid but are tied down because of ignorance. Maybe when they start seeing the influx of people disconnecting their services, leaving only the "palmwine tappers, they would probably sit up and do something about their wormy attitudes and annoyingly poor services.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by harjibolar10(m): 6:34am On Apr 12
nlfpmod:
Consequently, TCN assures the public of its cornmitment to continue to work hard to effectively transport the entire bulk electricity received from the generating companies to distribution load centres nationwide.
Which wan be cornmitment again nah?
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by yesloaded: 6:38am On Apr 12
Cooleasy:


Good points, bros.
But I have a layman's question: can solar power hot plate, big freezer and pumping machine? Most people that use solar; I see then using it to power only light. Can solar power other utilities?

Yes sir

Solar can power big appliances

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Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Olaxbolax100: 7:13am On Apr 12
inoki247:



3kva Lithium Solar inverter..


at least I no dey follow dem attend any electrical fault meeting for my area again he don save me Alot of stress....

What kind of appliances can this power, how long does it last and like how much does this cost? Thanks
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by qtx(m): 7:24am On Apr 12
Adeolaeniola:
IBEDC, we dey wait for your reply
Abeg which people be IBEDC o?
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by ttmax09(m): 7:35am On Apr 12
Honestly, I don't know why some discos licence can't be revoked, IBEDC is the worst disco in Nigeria. My mom living in bodija area said she hasn't seen a total of 10 hrs of light so far this month, so I don't even know under which band they will place those customers, but the good thing is that she is on pre paid meter, no light supplied, no units consumed.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by maasoap(m): 8:12am On Apr 12
ozo13:
In a working system, the two of una for don resign.
See how they're trading blames! We're the one bearing the consequences. Make I recharge small again before IBEDC revert my area back to Band A grin grin grin
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by erniok(m): 8:12am On Apr 12
ozo13:
the distribution company are the ones charging customers nonsense and they prefer estimated billing than the metered billing.
As for the transmission company , no significant improvement for almost 3 decades.
Both are failures and as such shouldn't be pointing accusing fingers on each other
This particular one is IBDC trying to shift blame due to their incompetence. Let's call each out when due.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by maasoap(m): 8:13am On Apr 12
Nyahabingi:
War

Are you not scared that you may not witness a working Nigeria,until you die .does it not bother u?
The future of my kids in this country bothers me more. It is getting hard and worse.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by erniok(m): 8:15am On Apr 12
Segxydube:


So who is innocent and guilty among them? No be tge two of them dey blame each other abi u no sabi read?
Na you I suppose ask you no sabi read. TCN said they even went with IBDC engineers to proof it has nothing to do with them. Next time, learn to read, comprehend before you have a loud opinion.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by maasoap(m): 8:15am On Apr 12
LeeMason:
The both companies are at fault. TCN sef nor dey try same with all discos
In most cases, the DISCOS are the problem.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by AFOXTJ: 8:16am On Apr 12
[quote author=nlfpmod post=129390416][/quote]

These set of people Especially, IBEDC are set of hypocrites.

Both TCN and IBEDC are not responsible

I blamed myself and many others for depending on grid for years.
I have solar panels for more than a year and doesn't think on how to get other materials needed for installation.

It's high time we go off grid and see
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by barrysome001: 8:21am On Apr 12
Kukutenla:

Who turns it off? TCN or the Disco?

Besides, you just made a conjecture not based on facts. TCN said Ibadan Disco officials were present and they agreed as to who is responsible so why are you still making excuses for the Disco
First of, my focus was on Point 2, so before you rope me into your "conjuncture" point, kindly refer to my initial comment and try to understand the context of my comment without emotions. I know the facts you apparently don't know.

To answer your question, at the instance of the case I mentioned in the comment you quoted, TCN instructs the DISCO to drop their energy off take, meaning some 11kv feeders are turned off by the Disco, OR they (TCN) themselves turn off a 33kV feeder from their end for balance. This is why I take a stand against that item 2 in their response. It is just an attempt to absolve themselves of the blame in the eyes of the public. It is not factual. The power on 11kv feeders is a chain reaction.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by maasoap(m): 8:23am On Apr 12
okewumi:
If all distribution Companies get better, IBEDC can not.

The mapping was faulty from beginning! Below are list of states IBEDC covers

* OYO STATE
* OGUN STATE
*KWARA STATE
*OSUN STATE

Do you know how many town are in each state. Oyo state alone supposed to have its distribution company. In oyo state, they have ibadan, ogbomomosho, oyo town, seven town in ibarapa, oke ogun, fiditi,.
They are joking.
.Federal government needs to review their contract

Lagos has two DISCOS. Oyo should stand alone. Ogun should have its own DISCO too. And may be join my Osun with Kwara, making three different DISCOS controlling these four states
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Adiy(f): 8:50am On Apr 12
IBEDC is very useless to the extent that prepaid meter paid for since October is yet to be given and they are still billing the customer crazy billing. They have the gut to disconnect the old woman when she's unable to pay the complete #12,000 estimated bill they give her for a small shop.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 8:53am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

First of, my focus was on Point 2, so before you rope me into your "conjuncture" point, kindly refer to my initial comment and try to understand the context of my comment without emotions. I know the facts you apparently don't know.

To answer your question, at the instance of the case I mentioned in the comment you quoted, TCN instructs the DISCO to drop their energy off take, meaning some 11kv feeders are turned off by the Disco, OR they (TCN) themselves turn off a 33kV feeder from their end for balance. This is why I take a stand against that item 2 in their response. It is just an attempt to absolve themselves of the blame in the eyes of the public. It is not factual. The power on 11kv feeders is a chain reaction.
I understand your point but the fact is Discos can also turn off the 11kV without instruction from TCN. Is that not what it means to reject load?

It's obvious from the press release from TCN that the Disco has agreed they are responsible so except there's a rebuttal from the Disco, TCN is correct on this one.

You're making it look as if only TCN can turn off load which is not true. And if TCN says they invited the Disco and showed them how the fault lies with them, I don't know how you will know more than both of them.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by softy(m): 8:53am On Apr 12
qtx:

Abeg which people be IBEDC o?



They are new warfare those states under them have to contend with.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by barrysome001: 9:20am On Apr 12
Kukutenla:

I understand your point but the fact is Discos can also turn off the 11kV without instruction from TCN. Is that not what it means to reject load?

It's obvious from the press release from TCN that the Disco has agreed they are responsible so except there's a rebuttal from the Disco, TCN is correct on this one.

You're making it look as if only TCN can turn off load which is not true. And if TCN says they invited the Disco and showed them how the fault lies with them, I don't know how you will know more than both of them.
I did not make "it look as if only TCN can turn off load". I never mentioned that in my comment. In fact, I only referenced a particular situation.

You just want to sound intelligent and you are not doing it well. You cannot squeeze me into you line of thoughts. My comment is my comment. Item 2 in TCN's response is not factual.

They are communicating to laymen in the field like you who appear to have little or no understanding of power systems, therefore, the information should be factual and not misleading. People can take that item 2 against Discos when they give reasons for shortfalls being "load limitations from TCN", saying having power on 11kV feeders is solely within the Discos control.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Kukutenla: 9:34am On Apr 12
barrysome001:

I did not make "it look as if only TCN can turn off load". I never mentioned that in my comment. In fact, I only referenced a particular situation.

You just want to sound intelligent and you are not doing it well. You cannot squeeze me into you line of thoughts. My comment is my comment. Item 2 in TCN's response is not factual.

They are communicating to laymen in the field like you who appear to have little or no understanding of power systems, therefore, the information should be factual and not misleading. People can take that item 2 against Discos when they give reasons for shortfalls being "load limitations from TCN", saying having power on 11kV feeders is solely within the Discos control.


Again, another conjecture from you. You claim to be an engineer not psychologist so I don't understand how your problem with a fault analysis and report is the perception it could generate and not the actual facts in the report.
I'll go further to quote points 3 and 4 which shows where the actual faults lie and I'll invite you to avert your mind to the points devoid of any conjecture.

3. That the reasons given for the outage on IBEDC 11kV and 33kV are earth/ over current faults, which have no bearing on TCN's frequency control operations.

4. That the staternent by IBEDC has been verified by TCN's regional management in Osogbo in conjunction with IBEDC Officials themselves and has been proven to be false, necessitating necessary corrections being made.


From the quote, 2 things are clear.

1. Reason for the outage was earth/overcurrent which is not under TCN responsibility

2. IBEDC have accepted their claim on the fault to be a lie.

So instead of being worried about how people may interpret, you should be more concerned about the actual fault and resolution/future prevention.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Testimony1988(m): 9:59am On Apr 12
They are the worst distribution company followed by Benin.
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by barrysome001: 10:15am On Apr 12
Kukutenla:


Again, another conjecture from you. You claim to be an engineer not psychologist so I don't understand how your problem with a fault analysis and report is the perception it could generate and not the actual facts in the report.
I'll go further to quote points 3 and 4 which shows where the actual faults lie and I'll invite you to avert your mind to the points devoid of any conjecture.



From the quote, 2 things are clear.

1. Reason for the outage was earth/overcurrent which is not under TCN responsibility

2. IBEDC have accepted their claim on the fault to be a lie.

So instead of being worried about how people may interpret, you should be more concerned about the actual fault and resolution/future prevention.
Supposed Analysis!
Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by inoki247: 10:21am On Apr 12
Olaxbolax100:


What kind of appliances can this power, how long does it last and like how much does this cost? Thanks


I didn't buy it now it was after Covid I bought them...


And I don't consume light like that all my appliances are within range my TV is 90watt freezer 80 watt only my washing machine consume Alot so I don't exhaust it...

So I don't really know what and what I can use to get it lowband my Pumping machine is a Solar pumping machine that comes with his own accessories so in one word I'm not an heavy user....


But that type of my battery is at the range of 1.2m to 1.3 now cause is hand made na my friend help me do am den the battery was like 400k then or so when I bought it....

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Re: We Are Not Responsible For Your Failure - TCN To IBEDC by Nyahabingi: 10:22am On Apr 12
Khyrvxjzy:


south east want war?

Please don't quote me again.
I hate foolishness

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