Atheists of Nairaland have all come to a conclusion that the following are tangible realities
1. Life
2. Mathematics
3. Software Code within a machine
4. Information
5. Logic

There was even one clown who says that Grief is tangible. His evidence is that Webster definition says
/Her Grief was tangible and he seem not to know that it is a figure of speech.


Who will deliver them from this Ignorance Induced shamelessness?

Cc:
Budaatum LordReed jaephoenix triplechoice

TenQ:

All atheists are their own deity. By that definition, you are an Atheist!

And tovmake matters worse, u don't even know who an atheist is. Wonderful

TenQ:

Stupid atheists don't know when a word is a figure of speech.

Can you measure Grief?
Tell me, According to Webster dictionary, how many kilograms of Griefs is in your head?
What is the unit of measurement of Grief?

Your ignorance amaze me!

Are you sure u r even literate?
It was clearly written in the definition that there are many instances of tangibility. There are up to 3 or 4 definitions but u chose only one definition and decided to run with it
Please get an education

TenQ:

The village clown is still quoting what he doesn't understand.

I challenge you to give me the unit of measurement of grief?


To Mr Atheist :
"I've told you a million times!" means exactly that I told you 1,000,000 times.

"His eyes drank in the beauty of the scene." mean that one can drink with the eyes.

"I could eat a horse!" meaning, I could literally eat a full grown horse.

"The backpack weighed a ton." meaning that one the weighing scale it's weight was one tonne


Again:
Grief is tangible according to Webster Dictionary

I challenge you to give me the unit of measurement of grief?

You are the official clown of the community of atheists if you don't give me the unit of measurement of Grief!

Illitterate how many definitions did you see there?
Must tangibility have physical features

triplechoice:
But I'm not atheist.

Your actions says you are!

jaephoenix:

Illitterate how many definitions did you see there?
Must tangibility have physical features

I have challenged you:
I challenge you to give me the unit of measurement of grief?

Only a Dumb Coward will run away from answering the question!

TenQ:

I have challenged you:
I challenge you to give me the unit of measurement of grief?

Only a Dumb Coward will run away from answering the question!

chai See Jam question? no be jamb o dis one na jam

jaephoenix:

Are you sure u r even literate?
It was clearly written in the definition that there are many instances of tangibility. There are up to 3 or 4 definitions but u chose only one definition and decided to run with it
Please get an education

When a person doesn't know what is a figure of speech and he thinks it is science

Can you measure your Grief?
Tell me, According to Webster dictionary, how many kilograms of Griefs is in your head?


What is the unit of measurement of Grief?

What is the tangibility in Grief?

TenQ:
Atheists of Nairaland have all come to a conclusion that the following are tangible realities
1. Life
2. Mathematics
3. Software Code within a machine
4. Information
5. Logic

There was even one clown who says that Grief is tangible. His evidence is that Webster definition says
/Her Grief was tangible and he seem not to know that it is a figure of speech.


Who will deliver them from this Ignorance Induced shamelessness?

Cc:
Budaatum LordReed jaephoenix triplechoice

"Grief is tangible". Hahahahahahahahaha

O atheists have become very entertaining these days! o my chest!

Why I tagged the Three atheists is for them to show us their super wisdom folly
They are even disputing on what is tangible like sounds and patent

One person who calls himself a doctor makes it worse saying that grief is tangible... Not surprised since it's the same person that said women don't experience pain during labor... A doctor indeed

jaephoenix:

And tovmake matters worse, u don't even know who an atheist is. Wonderful

Don't take me to the Atheists' DUMB definition of "Lacking a Belief in any Deity"!



The ONLY creatures who can TRULY lack a belief in any Deity are
1. Animals: For they lack the ability to comprehend the abstract nature of the definition of a deity
2. Babies: Due to immaturity of mind, they cannot even take any rational position about any deity
3. Imb.eciles: Just like babies cannot take any rational position about deities

Which of these three camps do you fall in with your LACK of BELIEF?


Lacking a Belief in an subject means:
You do not have ANY position for or against the subject.

Belief:
A Belief is a position we take when we do NOT have sufficient information to be 100% CERTAIN about a subject.

Examples of possible Beliefs
-Russia will win the war over Ukraine
-Third World war is inevitable within the next two years
-By Next month, $1.00 will be less than N600.00

What a rational person does before he takes a person of Belief is that he weighs PROBABILITY according to his judgment from available information he has if his position is worth holding or not.


The ONLY reason you bother to spend time on the Religious section of Nairaland is that you believe you have enough justification to DISCARD the Deity of the Christians and others!


Of course you don't think nor reason but swallow anything and everything godless people give to you as facts without question.
Sorry: How can Dawkins be wrong?

jaephoenix:

Illitterate how many definitions did you see there?
Must tangibility have physical features

Alright: for the first time I will ask on this thread

Because As a Medical Doctor, you say: "Must tangibility have physical features!?"
IS LIFE TANGIBLE?
How do you know?

StillDtruth:


"Grief is tangible". Hahahahahahahahaha

O atheists have become very entertaining these days! o my chest!

Aemmyjah:
Why I tagged the Three atheists is for them to show us their super wisdom folly
They are even disputing on what is tangible like sounds and patent

One person who calls himself a doctor makes it worse saying that grief is tangible... Not surprised since it's the same person that said women don't experience pain during labor... A doctor indeed

Don't mind the clowns!

They carry an air of superior knowledge not knowing that they are mentally sick and are devoid of any sound knowledge.

It's the same disease that is confusing Educated Adults about gender differences in people.

triplechoice:
But I'm not atheist.

You probably dont know who an atheist is

Perhaps you may want to read more from what I wrote your friend:

TenQ:

Don't take me to the Atheists' DUMB definition of "Lacking a Belief in any Deity"!



The ONLY creatures who can TRULY lack a belief in any Deity are
1. Animals: For they lack the ability to comprehend the abstract nature of the definition of a deity
2. Babies: Due to immaturity of mind, they cannot even take any rational position about any deity
3. Imb.eciles: Just like babies cannot take any rational position about deities

Which of these three camps do you fall in with your LACK of BELIEF?


Lacking a Belief in an subject means:
You do not have ANY position for or against the subject.

Belief:
A Belief is a position we take when we do NOT have sufficient information to be 100% CERTAIN about a subject.

Examples of possible Beliefs
-Russia will win the war over Ukraine
-Third World war is inevitable within the next two years
-By Next month, $1.00 will be less than N600.00

What a rational person does before he takes a person of Belief is that he weighs PROBABILITY according to his judgment from available information he has if his position is worth holding or not.


The ONLY reason you bother to spend time on the Religious section of Nairaland is that you believe you have enough justification to DISCARD the Deity of the Christians and others!


Of course you don't think nor reason but swallow anything and everything godless people give to you as facts without question.
Sorry: How can Dawkins be wrong?

TenQ:

You probably dont know who an atheist is

Perhaps you may want to read more from what I wrote your friend:

I will read it once you tell me that you have started taking the medications to boost your very low 1Q that's making you to churn out nonsense conclusions.

StillDtruth:


Your actions says you are!

It's only a slowpoke that judge others only by their "actions" without giving a though to the intentions behind the "actions"

You lack the neural development to understand the reasons or reasons behind my actions hence your wrong conclusion about me.

TenQ:
Atheists of Nairaland have all come to a conclusion that the following are tangible realities
1. Life
2. Mathematics
3. Software Code within a machine
4. Information
5. Logic

There was even one clown who says that Grief is tangible. His evidence is that Webster definition says
/Her Grief was tangible and he seem not to know that it is a figure of speech.


Who will deliver them from this Ignorance Induced shamelessness?

Cc:
Budaatum LordReed jaephoenix triplechoice

When you're done fooling yourself to entertain your fans, I hope you have the sense to focus on the op and stop derailing the thread with your deception.

TenQ:

The post wasn't directed at you so I don't know how it is your business when a fool is called by his proper name.

The post was directed at atheists, which many would presume I am. And besides, it's not as if you haven't directly insulted me too.

Perhaps don't be so general next time.

triplechoice:


I will read it once you tell me that you have started taking the medications to boost your very low 1Q that's making you to churn out nonsense conclusions.

You have been Battered beyond restoration!
This is why I dont have time for atheists: very shallow but pompous human beings

triplechoice:


When you're done fooling yourself to entertain your fans, I hope you have the sense to focus on the op and stop derailing the thread with your deception.

See how quiet you have all been: deluded people full of self importance.

Shame has driven you inside except for the permanent dummies

budaatum:


The post was directed at atheists, which many would presume I am. And besides, it's not as if you haven't directly insulted me too.

Perhaps don't be so general next time.

It was directed to the response of a particular fellow who arrogantly displayed his folly: and he was put in his place.

When last did you see me call you any derogatory name?

I hardly, and that is because you hardly call people by derogatory names

TenQ:

It was directed to the response of a particular fellow who arrogantly displayed his folly: and he was put in his place.

When last did you see me call you any derogatory name?

I hardly, and that is because you hardly call people by derogatory names

Then I take back my comment, and apologise. And know that despite our differences, I do appreciate our conversation, until you began assuming I had no knowledge of that which I speak just because you don't have the code to decode it. It's a call to being an authority, which I know is done by those who don't have any authority at all, and just want to bully and gaslight others into submission.

You should read it again in fact. I kept telling you that despite a computer calling a message in Hindi and sign language gibberish, that does not mean it is gibberish, but you could not see how it applies to us as individuals, that just because we are saying what the other disagrees with doesn't mean either of us are talking gibberish.

I really enjoyed our conversation. It's not the first time neither that we've done this, if you remember, and if I were to lay out my heart I'd say I love you for it. I wouldn't have spent so much time if you didn't have the brain for it, and that's rather rare here especially amongst those who just want to shove some intangible god down one's throat.

TenQ:
Atheists of Nairaland have all come to a conclusion that the following are tangible realities
1. Life
2. Mathematics
3. Software Code within a machine
4. Information
5. Logic

There was even one clown who says that Grief is tangible. His evidence is that Webster definition says
/Her Grief was tangible and he seem not to know that it is a figure of speech.


Who will deliver them from this Ignorance Induced shamelessness?

Cc:
Budaatum LordReed jaephoenix triplechoice

In the context of this thread, which is spirits, those things mentioned are very tangible indeed is what you miss. Even My Lord who argued with me that tangible things must be touchable, and whom I assume might claim life is not touchable, might concede that life is tangible compared.

Go on. Ask all those atheists if spirits are tangible or not. Though now that we've got to the insulting stage, that bridge might have burned. Even as a figure of speech, I'd expect none to agree.

budaatum:


Then I take back my comment, and apologise. And know that despite our differences, I do appreciate our conversation, until you began assuming I had no knowledge of that which I speak just because you don't have the code to decode it. It's a call to being an authority, which I know is done by those who don't have any authority at all, and just want to bully and gaslight others into submission.

No wahala. What are friends for as no human being is perfect

budaatum:

You should read it again in fact. I kept telling you that despite a computer calling a message in Hindi and sign language gibberish, that does not mean it is gibberish, but you could not see how it applies to us as individuals, that just because we are saying what the other disagrees with doesn't mean either of us are talking gibberish.

I think I got tired of you at a point because i assume I was speaking from the position of knowledge.
I do programming on Microcontrollers and in those days, I did a lot of C/Cpp, Python programming.

I believe I kept saying that you can only look at this from the Point of View of the Computer as It doesn't matter whether your strings of data or instruction is meaningful or not, what matters is whether the target computer can decode the information. If it cannot decode the information, such becomes just irrelevant noise irrespective of whetht it is
meaningful information or not.

I used the example of the fact that you cant run a Windows Program on an Android or A Mac directly because even though, these are proper programs the target machine cannot interpret the sting of instructions as it sees it as random noise.

The only way out is to first Run a Windows EMULATOR program on either the Android or Mac Computer before installing the Windows program on the Emulator. The Emulator is now behaving like a language translator between the Windows program and the Android or Mac.

The other issue was with the SOFTWARE in MEMORY of the Machine. If the Software is not in the Format Expected by the CPU, it sees it as pure NOISE. The CPU actually is a relay of dumb switches just switching according to the sequence of data it gets as instructions and values. The CPU doesn't even know what it is doing because it is controlled by another set of software programmed directly into the Hardware. The BIOS of your computer is such a program written in the ROM of the computer.

Thus, within the Memory of a Computer data is useful only if it comes in a meaningful sequence to the CPU otherwise, whatever is stored is not different from either noise or junks. Thus, the software in a machine cannot be quantified physically. You need the assistance of another software to check if the sequence of data matches the expected format and then the information can then be counted in Bytes and more.

When you wipe off the memory of your hard disk, what is done is simply to make random the sequence of data on the hard drive. Once the CPU cannot read the expected sequence and the partition data are okay, the CPU assumes that the HDD is empty. But in reality, it is NOT empty, the data was just randomized. This is why it is NOT wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist!

Anyone who knows a little of hardware programming will not argue like all of you were arguing.
It would have made sense if you asked an expert offline.
His wisdom could now be yours.

Alas, disappointment is an understatement for me to see that no one even slowed down one bit to check out my questions: Consulting the mundane ChatGPT could have solved this problem.

budaatum:

I really enjoyed our conversation. It's not the first time neither that we've done this, if you remember, and if I were to lay out my heart I'd say I love you for it. I wouldn't have spent so much time if you didn't have the brain for it, and that's rather rare here especially amongst those who just want to shove some intangible god down one's throat.

I also enjoy conversing with you because I can see that behind the keyboard is a mature mind. I think your major problem however is your little background in the physical sciences and mathematics. When I debate Atheists, I don't use the bible, I use mainly Science, Logic, Deductions and Analogies. When I debate Muslims, I use their Quran, Hadith, Tafsirs and Sira. When I debate Christians, I use the Bible and Bible History

Have a beautiful night rest

triplechoice:


When you're done fooling yourself to entertain your fans, I hope you have the sense to focus on the op and stop derailing the thread with your deception.

I am glad you admit that through TenQ, your foolishness is entertaining your adversaries

budaatum:


In the context of this thread, which is spirits, those things mentioned are very tangible indeed is what you miss. Even My Lord who argued with me that tangible things must be touchable, and whom I assume might claim life is not touchable, might concede that life is tangible compared.

Go on. Ask all those atheists if spirits are tangible or not. Though now that we've got to the insulting stage, that bridge might have burned. Even as a figure of speech, I'd expect none to agree.

Not every tangible things are touchable (even though this is a general definition). A more precise definition would be that Tangible things are anything that has mass or dimension or energy or can change state with time.

This definition takes care of even subatomic particles. This mean that ANYTHING that can be quantified DIRECTLY in terms of Energy, Mass, Dimension or change of position or state with time

Magnetic Fields, Electric Fields, Gravitational Fields are all NOT Tangible even though they are real. They can only be detected indirectly through the EFFECTS they have on magnets,electric charges or mass. These all are examples of REALITIES that are not Tangible

TenQ:

I am glad you admit that through TenQ, your foolishness is entertaining your adversaries

You have more of insults to dish out to others than to teach what you claim to know very well.

Extending your expertise in computer softwares into areas you're not competent to speak on is overreaching yourself. Such behaviour is not something anyone should be proud of. It simply shows you don't know the limit of your knowledge. You can't be an expert in everything. That's why they say, nobody knows it all. You can't know it all.



Every knowledge has its limitations and for that you cannot use your knowledge of computer software to interpret or explain what's spirit to make those not familiar with that reality understand it in the very limited way you do.

Since they haven't seen spirits themselves,their minds won't move past a computer software to understanding what it's. In other words, a computer software analogy becomes a barrier to understanding for such persons.



If you want to discuss spirit, then discuss spirit by first of all ,defining and explaining it after
which you look for something that compares to it in certain ways to make your description clearer to others . That's how to teach something correctly.


I announced at the beginning when I quoted you that I also subscribe to the idea of spirit,but our understanding of it is different .

But sadly enough, you didn't pay attention. You assume I'm an atheist and the next thing is name calling and insults directed at me . That's transferred aggression


Insults and name calling won't help you teach others anything,especially when they didn't insult you first . Instead it would prevent others from learning from you.

You really need to change your attitude. It's working against you.

triplechoice:


You have more of insults to dish out to others than to teach what you claim to know very well.

Extending your expertise in computer softwares into areas you're not competent to speak on is overreaching yourself. Such behaviour is not something anyone should be proud of. It simply shows you don't know the limit of your knowledge. You can't be an expert in everything. That's why they say, nobody knows it all. You can't know it all.

Every knowledge has it's limitations and for that you cannot use your knowledge of computer software to interpret or explain what's spirit to make those not familiar with that reality understand it in the very limited way you do.

Since they haven't seen spirits themselves,their minds won't move past a computer software to understanding what it's. In other words, a computer software analogy becomes a barrier to understanding for such persons.


If you want to discuss spirit, then discuss spirit by first of all ,defining and explaining it after
which you look for something that compares to it in certain ways to make your description clearer to others . That's how to teach something correctly.

I announced at the beginning when I quoted you that I also subscribe to the idea of spirit,but our understanding of it is different .

But sadly enough, you didn't pay attention. You assume I'm an atheist and the next thing is name calling and insults directed at me . That's transferred aggression

Insults and name calling won't help you teach others anything,especially when they didn't insult you first . Instead it would prevent others from learning from you.

You really need to change your attitude. It's working against you.

I have not even discussed spirits one bit.

I have only focused on software and find that all you Atheists were grossly inadequate in knowledge. You could have asked Google or even ChatGPT for answers but you chose to wallow in your self delusions.

When your understanding of the what is known is sound, you are now prepared for understanding of what is unknown.

triplechoice:


You have more of insults to dish out to others than to teach what you claim to know very well.

Extending your expertise in computer softwares into areas you're not competent to speak on is overreaching yourself. Such behaviour is not something anyone should be proud of. It simply shows you don't know the limit of your knowledge. You can't be an expert in everything. That's why they say, nobody knows it all. You can't know it all.



Every knowledge has it's limitations and for that you cannot use your knowledge of computer software to interpret or explain what's spirit to make those not familiar with that reality understand it in the very limited way you do.

Since they haven't seen spirits themselves,their minds won't move past a computer software to understanding what it's. In other words, a computer software analogy becomes a barrier to understanding for such persons.



If you want to discuss spirit, then discuss spirit by first of all ,defining and explaining it after
which you look for something that compares to it in certain ways to make your description clearer to others . That's how to teach something correctly.


I announced at the beginning when I quoted you that I also subscribe to the idea of spirit,but our understanding of it is different .

But sadly enough, you didn't pay attention. You assume I'm an atheist and the next thing is name calling and insults directed at me . That's transferred aggression


Insults and name calling won't help you teach others anything,especially when they didn't insult you first . Instead it would prevent others from learning from you.

You really need to change your attitude. It's working against you.

Again, you are an Atheist whether you call yourself one or not.


Do you not subscribe to the god of self?

The you are an Atheist!

triplechoice:


You have more of insults to dish out to others than to teach what you claim to know very well.

Extending your expertise in computer softwares into areas you're not competent to speak on is overreaching yourself.

What expertise?! Lmao. Nothing he wrote shows he has any expertise in computer software.

triplechoice:

I announced at the beginning when I quoted you that I also subscribe to the idea of spirit,but our understanding of it is different .

I missed that too. So, what is a spirit?
How do you know that your understanding is different (what does that even mean?!) since TenQ’s “understanding” has not been stated.

TenQ:

I have not even discussed spirits one bit.

I have only focused on software and find that all you Atheists were grossly inadequate in knowledge. You could have asked Google or even ChatGPT for answers but you chose to wallow in your self delusions.



When your understanding of the what is known is sound, you are now prepared for understanding of what is unknown.

Still referring me to as an atheist shows you don't take your time to read me before
replying.

And the bolded is you trying to hide behind something very silly. Incompetent people are known for hiding behind that to hide their incompetency. It's a well known tactics, and you can't put me down with it.

There's nothing about spirit that's unknown, especially for someone like me. You're mystifying it because it's still a mystery to you. Everyone is not you and I'm certainly not you.

If you claim to know something and refuse to talk about it ,how can anyone know if you really know it?

A computer software and spirit are not the same kind of reality. And so saying that one needs to know the former before one can understand the later,is equally as illogical as declaring that if one can't make sense of levitating in a dream how can one make sense of flying a plane in the waking state.

There's no logicality in your thinking Mr computer software wizard. You're just blinded by your knowledge of softwares and can't see beyond that. That's all.

If you don't know the limitations of your knowledge, then you have a problem.

And to talk about chatGPT, shows that's exactly what you're doing to have something to say here. I don't do that. I'm not you