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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by FireUpNow(m): 11:00am On Apr 22
OP this is a big sacrilege! How dare you compare day and night? GEJ era was a very bright day light which president Tinubu was sponsoring and attending protests with Pastor Tunde Bakare calling PDP and GEJ different names. Now we are in the era of APC and Bola Tinubu, the. Night era šŸ˜€

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Ebeano49(m): 11:00am On Apr 22
They said Jonathan was clueless but he had a stable hand in NGOZI OKONJO IWEALA running the economy. She commanded respect from London, Frankfurt, to New York where international finance decisions are made!

Then bad belle entered. Buhari came, removed Ngozi and installed Kemi Adeosun, a mere London Underground accountant as her replacement. After Kemi comes Zainab Ahmed, an unknown quantity in every ramification. Tinubu has come and installed his crony in Wale Edun as coordinating minister. It's easy to see why the economy is in the state it is in right now.

This tells the larger story of Nigeria's dilemma. When merit was the order of the day, the naira and dollars had almost the same value. People from all over west Africa and the Caribbean flocked to Nigerian universities. Then bad belle entered, Nigeria removed those managing the economy at the time based on MERIT. Chancellorship of Universities became tribalized and ethicized. They introduced federal character to replace competence with incompetence. Since then, Nigeria has been on a slippery slope to underdevelopment in every aspect of human endeavor.

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Donsheddy: 11:01am On Apr 22
Moniya4Real:

Of cy, life was better i agree but not good as well compared to his predecessorsā€™s .


Good is what expect naw...
What's the good life we are enjoying now that we didn't enjoy then even better....

When cant even good food again...

Minimum wage no fit prepare three better pot of soup...

Business was booming then, purchase power was high...

Even na groundnut you decide to sell you will earn money and feed well...

Civil servants could afford properties like lands and gradually build it...

Now na who don chop dey reason to buy land self šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by monex(m): 11:05am On Apr 22
nairalanda1:


Between 2010-14, oil prices were sky high. That's why our GDP then was higher than it is now.

BY 2014, oil prices began falling, by the last days of GEJ , we was borrowing to pay salaries then.

So, the economy was not better under PDP. It was the effect of high oil prices.


BUT....

That does not excuse Buhari and tinubu.

Buhari in 2015 had two things that he needed to do...remove subsides, and float the naira. HE DID NEITHER. He also did not raise tax to gdp.

Here we are.

Also, Nigeria should have had a gdp of over a trillion dollars or more since 2009. That it did not ...shows how badly our economy was run.

If Jona had also removed subsides and floated the naira ...by 2014, that GDP would have been in excess oor even close to 1 trillion dollars or more

Our economy has always been sick because it relies on oyel money price.

you all protested against the removal of subsidies then. it was still going to take petrol price to less than 200

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Lithiumite: 11:05am On Apr 22
OriOko88:
undecided
Jonathan was a puppet. He didn't do anything special. He met a very robust Obj era economy. I don't rate him atal. He shud have tried all possible best to ensure pdp remained in power. An hausa or Yoruba president at that time will never relinquish power in such way. This is Africa!! Maximum respect to Obj.

APC saw Jona to be a weak vessel and used propaganda to destroy him. Nonsense.
pls remind them how much crude was selling during GEJ as against PMB and BAT.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by tommy589(m): 11:06am On Apr 22
Beverlyjean:


Jonathan was gradually locking loopholes that corrupt politicians were using to accumulate dangerous wealth.... it was under Jonathan that for the first time subsidy thieves were being investigated and arrested ... the corrupt political class came together to knock him out so that they can continue their evil ways ... Jonathan was the first to declare the end of subsidy payment in 2012 and proposed that fuel will be sold at 148 naira per litre.... the same politicians ( Tinubu , Buhari and the rest ) all fought against it , they used the media , grounded the economy.... Tinubu used his hold on lagos to ground the economy and there was a nationwide strike and that crippling the economy...the man had to reverse his decision due to pressure .... b4 APC ,u hardly heard of fraud running into billions... infact, Dasuki that was arrested and thrown in jail for years , was because of 2biliion naira ... now seems like every fraud case by politicians in the country runs in billions

No Nigeria president that's wallowing in corruption has that power to block corruption. With power of impeachment residing with Assembly members, Is he not going to bend to their demands and allow them to have their ways or else they refuse accepting his budgetary and bills passage request

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/469425-how-farouk-lawan-cap-banker-was-sent-to-jail-for-taking-500000-bribe.html?tztc=1

Read about Farouk,the anti corruption and shining star of the oil subsidy probe
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by ThatFairGuy1: 11:08am On Apr 22
Chief propagandist, Chief wailer.

Give Tinubu time racoon, he's less than a year on seat and getting it right.

The best thing to do is you helping your wife out.
That woman has tried fending for the family while you waste away on Nairaland 24/7.

Get something doing racoon, help your wife. She has tried enough.

You registered this account in 2018 and you have spent a whole 1 year, 3 months online.

Doing what racoon?
Pity your wife nah
Racoon:
The APC gate crashing into our national life is the most unfortunate thing that ever happened to this nation.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by zoraro(m): 11:08am On Apr 22
OriOko88:
undecided
Jonathan was a puppet. He didn't do anything special. He met a very robust Obj era economy. I don't rate him atal. He shud have tried all possible best to ensure pdp remained in power. An hausa or Yoruba president at that time will never relinquish power in such way. This is Africa!! Maximum respect to Obj.

APC saw Jona to be a weak vessel and used propaganda to destroy him. Nonsense.

Are you stupid ? Someone grew the economy from $369.06bn in 2010 to $568.49bn in 2014, and you say "He didn't do anything special". APC were ready to burn the country in 2014/2015, and you say He shouldn't have relinquished power.

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Lithiumite: 11:11am On Apr 22
Beverlyjean:
We had Jonathan that was progressing the nation...but the SW and North combined to destroy us... SW used propaganda with pure undiluted lies while North used insecurity...look at where we have found ourselves today
Even GEJ and his people have long moved on.....you are still here deluding yourself into thinking you know anything.....if it was that easy,it's GEJ that should have been criticising this govt with every strength in him but no it's mischief makers like you who know nothing about running a business or even a house hold ranting aimlessly.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by ThatFairGuy1: 11:12am On Apr 22
ThatFairGuy1:
Chief propagandist, Chief wailer.

Give Tinubu time racoon, he's less than a year on seat and getting it right.

The best thing to do is you helping your wife out.
That woman has tried fending for the family while you waste away on Nairaland 24/7.

Get something doing racoon, help your wife. She has tried enough.

You registered this account in 2018 and you have spent a whole 1 year, 3 months online.

Doing what racoon?
Pity your wife nah
Racoon:

The APC gate crashing into our national life is the most unfortunate thing that ever happened to this nation.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Bbbwings: 11:16am On Apr 22
Data doesnt lie.
If you like enter lagoon, bulab wont save you.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by TheAdvocate(m): 11:19am On Apr 22
Paraman:
It's
So the NBS do release GDP figures in US dollar?

It's International Monetary Fund (IMF) not NBA.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Paraman: 11:21am On Apr 22
TheAdvocate:


It's International Monetary Fund (IMF) not NBA.
NBS do release the figures in naira, the IMF only converted it to dollar
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by LOVEALAIGBO: 11:22am On Apr 22
Beverlyjean:
We had Jonathan that was progressing the nation...but the SW and North combined to destroy us... SW used propaganda with pure undiluted lies while North used insecurity...look at where we have found ourselves today

Yet, we're all still acting like we're not in a critical socio-economic and security situation today!.....Still blowing useles grammar and analysing what has been over-analysed for decades, while Nigeria sinks deeper into the mire! If we're serious WITHIN THE NEXT ONE MONTH, A SOVEREIGN NATIONAL ASSEMBLY WOULD BE CONVOKED, AND A IMMEDIATE DECISION MADE TO EITHER RESTRUCTURE NIGERIA SO EVERY COMPONENT UNIT CAN CONTROL THEIR OWN ECONOMY, SECURITY, RESOURCES AND DESTINY....FAILING WHICH, WE ALL GO OUR SEPERATE WAYS! ENOUGH OF THIS OVER-ANALYSING AND BURYING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND WHILE THE LIKES OF GHANA, BOTSWANA, RWANDA, ETC, LEAVE US TRAILING IN THEIR WAKE!
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by OfoIgbo: 11:26am On Apr 22
Procashtips:


Towards the end of Jonathan's tenure, Okonjo came to tell the world that Jonathan govt was borrowing to pay salaries. (Verify this online)
This is a govt that enjoyed a doubled crude oil prices for years.

Other abnormalities happened under him, they're all documented.

Don't forget that Buhari also paid subsidy on fuel and electricity even though he didnt earn up to 1/3 of what Jonathan earned crude oil wise.

Abnormalities happened under Buhari too but It's this Tinubu thats the worst so far.

Everything happening to Nigeria now was caused by his utterances and policies. Nothing else.

GEJ's government did earn the right to borrow after all he made the Nigerian economy the largest in Africa.

And btw, according to the link which I have pasted, the price of crude oil was noticeably higher during Buhari's term than during OBJ and Yaradua's term. Yet those two presidents outdid every APC president and they both were paying subsidies on fuel and electricity.

You also claimed that the price of oil during GEJ's period was outrageously pricier than during Buhari and Tinubu's government. The graph in the link doesn't support this your assertion. Oil price took a nosedive during the commencement of the Corona epidemic in April, but by May the price of oil had already started rising steeply.

Let us also not loose focus on the fact that the Nigerian economy was performing woefully even before the covid19 epidemic, so Buhari and Tinubu have no excuses.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by LOVEALAIGBO: 11:28am On Apr 22
monex:


you all protested against the removal of subsidies then. it was still going to take petrol price to less than 200

Don't mind them! They're just clutching at straws! Had they not been intent on power-grab, propaganda and prepared to cut their nose to spite their face, they would have supported the GEJ gov't do then what they claim they're now forced to do today! Mindless dolts!

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by SpatialKing(m): 11:30am On Apr 22
It shall never be well with Tinubu and Buhari
Yorubas and Hausa/fulanis

They brought us to this mess

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by nairalanda1(m): 11:32am On Apr 22
monex:


you all protested against the removal of subsidies then. it was still going to take petrol price to less than 200

Well I didn't. 2012 was the year my eyes opened.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by OfoIgbo: 11:35am On Apr 22
Lithiumite:
pls remind them how much crude was selling during GEJ as against PMB and BAT.

The difference is not much.

In fact, Buhari enjoyed a higher price of oil than OBJ and Yaradua, and yet the economy under OBJ and Yaradua are better than the economy under both Buhari and Tinubu.

The oil price during Tinubu era was much more than the price during OBJ and Yaradua's tenure

The oil price during GEJ's era is just slightly about the oil price in Tinubu's era, yet Tinubu's economy is nowhere near OBJ and Yaradua that had lower oil prices during their eras. Also don't forget that Tinubu has removed the fuel subsidy, so he should have more, in terms of cash for development

Check this

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

Statistics don't lie

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Image123(m): 11:35am On Apr 22
GDP has never been a reliable indicator. Due to its complex and subjective nature, this measure is often revised before being considered a reliable indicator. Economists who like stat padding like NOI are the types that hype it. With all the hype, it was largely a case of na statistics we go chop? We had a country borrowing to pay salaries, daily shrinking reserves, lowest ebb of security but shouting GDP.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by FireUpNow(m): 11:39am On Apr 22
Ok
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Image123(m): 11:41am On Apr 22
zoraro:


Are you stupid ? Someone grew the economy from $369.06bn in 2010 to $568.49bn in 2014, and you say "He didn't do anything special". APC were ready to burn the country in 2014/2015, and you say He shouldn't have relinquished power.

Economy that was struggling to pay salaries ba? GDP does not reflect differences in the cost of living and the inflation rates of the countries. What sectors were producing, it's not exactly a government thing.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by toujurs: 11:47am On Apr 22
The suffer haven't started grin cheesy. You see that tribalism, you will choke on it soon. E bim pa wo pro max is coming soon. šŸ¤£

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Flexyup: 11:50am On Apr 22
P. M. B should never had been in the picture.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by rollywise(m): 11:58am On Apr 22
2024 just started actually. By December it will be reading -$150,000 deficit šŸ˜‚
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Redhot111(m): 12:20pm On Apr 22
I knew he was going to be a disaster when they asked, ā€™na statistics we go chop'. At this stage he may not even be aware how bad the economy has fallen.

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Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by yemiyemi: 12:26pm On Apr 22
Comparative economic analysis is based on prevailing key economic indicators......what's the average crude oil price between 1999 - 2014 and 2015 til date? ......Answering this question will make you have better perspective about the trend of GDP figures presented from 1999 till date.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Procashtips(m): 12:28pm On Apr 22
OfoIgbo:


GEJ's government did earn the right to borrow after all he made the Nigerian economy the largest in Africa.

And btw, according to the link which I have pasted, the price of crude oil was noticeably higher during Buhari's term than during OBJ and Yaradua's term. Yet those two presidents outdid every APC president and they both were paying subsidies on fuel and electricity.

You also claimed that the price of oil during GEJ's period was outrageously pricier than during Buhari and Tinubu's government. The graph in the link doesn't support this your assertion. Oil price took a nosedive during the commencement of the Corona epidemic in April, but by May the price of oil had already started rising steeply.

Let us also not loose focus on the fact that the Nigerian economy was performing woefully even before the covid19 epidemic, so Buhari and Tinubu have no excuses.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

First, you err by comparing crude oil price of that of Obj and Yar'Adua with that of Buhari. You cant go that far because it wouldn't make a balance of judgement due to the fact that standard of living in both eras are far apart and that there are governments in between both.

You can only compare the precedessor and the successor for a more factual comparison.

How much was crude oil under Abacha (A man sanctioned to death by the west) and also Abdulsalam compared to that of Obj? (Only added the latter because he was a bridge between military and civilian govt)

Now how much was crude oil under ObJ and Yaradua?

It was said that Yaradua outperformed OBJ in just 2yrs+ and would have made a huge difference if not for death



Did crude sell higher under OBJ than the 2 or not?

Now to Jonathan making Nigeria the biggest economy in Africa, it was all but beans cooking, this was later exposed after the rots going underneath got exposed. You can't be the biggest economy in Africa early 100% surplus of your budgeted earnings and still end up borrowing to pay salaries a year before the end of your tenure. What happened to the 100% surplus earnings?

Jonathan paid subsidy on fuel and electricity just as Buhari, Yar'Adua and OBJ, it's only Tinubu that's acting abnormal and turning Nigerian lives upside down.

So Jonathan didn't do anything magical in that aspect.

Are you really saying crude didn't sell under Jonathan above $100 per barrel for a long time?

How can you claim just by using one link that Buhari and Jonathan sold crude at similar rates when it's not a news that it sold for $110 for a while compared to like $60 that was in the budget vs selling for as low as $25 under Buhari compared to $50-$60 on budget?

Please, lets not argue for argument sake. I would have posted links to backup the above but I'm where my internet isn't opening images fast enough.

You can help check these assertion or wait till I can do so later.

I'm not holding brief for any of these leaders, just letting us know that Jonathan was never good if compared to Yar'Adua his precedessor because he didnt fact any political, economic or global pandemic issues.

It's so sad that we are buying man hour time discussing these failures called leaders.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Hammylawali: 12:34pm On Apr 22
Freethinker87:
The economy is not sentimental, and for every poor political or economic decision Nigerians make, there will be an equal or exponential reaction.

When we WAILED about President Buhari's absent WAEC certificate, his camp responded by saying ā€œEven if he shows us a NEPA bill, weā€™ll still vote for him.ā€ The market's reaction to this was two recessions and 18.8 million people losing their jobs.

When we WAILED about Chief Tinubu's absent WAEC certificate and questionable educational background, his camp responded by saying ā€œE mi lokan - he has been preparing to be President for 30 years and is the most prepared candidate.ā€ The market's reaction to this irrationality and the imposition of an illegitimate President on Nigerians was a 50% loss in Nigeria's GDP and 60 million Nigerians driven into multi-dimensional poverty.

There is still more to come from Tinubu, as there are 7 more years to go, after which there will be 8 years of the boko haram sympathizer Shettima, followed by another 8 years of Tinubu's wayward son, Seyi.

Itā€™s so glaring you understand absolutely nothing about the economy of your country. Yes Jonathan did well with the economy (thanks to okonjo iwiela). But the most important question is, what economy did buhari handover to tinubu. You had a dead economy before tinubu came into power.
If you donā€™t know, floating the the naira was actually meant to show you how realistic your economy is. You canā€™t start building a house on a weak foundation.
Buhariā€™s administration wrecked our economy, sold our oil in advance , destroyed our monetary system, devalued the currency so his keen could benefit from it, encouraged the cabal to embezzle our money through subsidy payments. There are alot that we can mention that really messed up our economy. If you want a vibrant economy, we need to start by clearing the rot. You can call me pro tinubu or anything, but whoever means well for this country, wonā€™t start repairing/ building from somewhere but the foundation.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by CodeTemplar: 12:46pm On Apr 22
Racoon:
This should clear the doubts of all especially the mummified zombies hailing a government that have destroyed every progress that this nation has ever made including the economy.
the contraction is largely down to devaluation and not disappearance of produce and services.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by Lithiumite: 12:55pm On Apr 22
OfoIgbo:


The difference is not much.

In fact, Buhari enjoyed a higher price of oil than OBJ and Yaradua, and yet the economy under OBJ and Yaradua are better than the economy under both Buhari and Tinubu.

The oil price during Tinubu era was much more than the price during OBJ and Yaradua's tenure

The oil price during GEJ's era is just slightly about the oil price in Tinubu's era, yet Tinubu's economy is nowhere near OBJ and Yaradua that had lower oil prices during their eras. Also don't forget that Tinubu has removed the fuel subsidy, so he should have more, in terms of cash for development

Check this

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

Statistics don't lie

Then why wasn't GEJ Nigeria better than his predecessors..... look at oil production levels pre GEJ....intact we haven't ever gotten production level back up to what it was then.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In The Last 15 Years. by OfoIgbo: 1:35pm On Apr 22
Lithiumite:


Then why wasn't GEJ Nigeria better than his predecessors..... look at oil production levels pre GEJ....intact we haven't ever gotten production level back up to what it was then.

GEJ was better than his predecessors. Look at the graph sent by the OP in the second post on this thread.
Nigeria's GDP grew most steeply when GEJ was the president.

GEJ did his bit and he did very well.

But his predecessors were battling with lower oil prices, and the oil prices they met were lower than the oil price that Tinubu met, yet OBJ and Yaradua are vastly outperforming both Buhari and Tinubu, who had higher oil prices than Yaradua and OBJ.

Let's not mention GEJ, because he outperformed Yaradua and OBJ. Let's stick with Yaradua and OBJ. They obliterate Tinubu and Buhari

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