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Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by StillDtruth: 6:58pm On Apr 24
jaephoenix:

Has anyone ever shown themselves to u?

Can you live in a house that does not belong to you and not know who the owner of the house/landlord is?
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23pm On Apr 24
jaephoenix:

what is JW doing about the wars apart from sitting in their churches and groping kids?

They made me a lover of peace through their teachings otherwise as a soldier i supposed to be somewhere now using the talent to kill in mass but instead of killing now as a soldier of Christ Jesus i catch people alive! Luke 5:10

Millions throughout the earth have had the same experience and became lovers of peace! Isaiah 2:4

Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Aemmyjah(m): 7:29pm On Apr 24
MaxInDHouse:


They made me a lover of peace through their teachings otherwise as a soldier i supposed to be somewhere now using the talent to kill in mass but instead of killing now as a soldier of Christ Jesus i cash people alive! Luke 5:10

Millions throughout the earth have had the same experience and became lovers of peace! Isaiah 2:4

Jaephoenix is just pained and his intelligence is beaten and that's why he'll resort to lies... How could we grope inside the KH?
He's unwell
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39pm On Apr 24
Aemmyjah:

Jaephoenix is just pained and his intelligence is beaten and that's why he'll resort to lies... How could we grope inside the KH? He's unwell

I know how to punish atheists with the truth.

Since they don't know what to say regarding the fulfillment of Isaiah 2:2-4 they all ran away from my side because there's no refutable proof that God is not at work in the midst of those using the Bible to melt stony hearts and turn them from ferocious beasts to sheep! smiley
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by LordReed(m): 8:38pm On Apr 24
StillDtruth:


It shouldnt convince you, for it is not like a man toastibg a woman or a job seeker trying to get a job.

You are suppose to know that as far as we have seen and experienced, no thing comes out of nothing as shown by the "pattern of all the other processes" that we see and have seen. Which is why every normal person all over the world has said "no thing comes out of no thing!


Well then there's no pattern that establishes a god at work so yeah I am unconvinced.
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by StillDtruth: 8:46pm On Apr 24
LordReed:


Well then there's no pattern that establishes a god at work so yeah I am unconvinced.

Why do you always play ignorant?

You just admitted the pattern shows no thing comes out of nothing, does it not impliedly prove.that the things we see are all creations created by Some Super Great Person people call God?
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by LordReed(m): 9:10pm On Apr 24
StillDtruth:


Why do you always play ignorant?

You just admitted the pattern shows no thing comes out of nothing, does it not impliedly prove.that the things we see are all creations created by Some Super Great Person people call God?

It's not establishing a god, it's a pattern establishing natural processes. The one being ignorant here is you.
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 10:21pm On Apr 24
Aemmyjah:


Well, I'm not sure you listened to TenQ
But your teacher's should have told you that we can accept the existence of something by evidence and other effects aside from sight, hearing,etc

Instead, you listen to people, who tell you that labor in women is not painful
1. Which evidence are you tendering?
2. And when did I tell you labor isn't painful?
And to think hopefulLandlord wants to engage this dullard? SMH
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 10:24pm On Apr 24
StillDtruth:


Can you live in a house that does not belong to you and not know who the owner of the house/landlord is?
Actually some homeless folks do that. In fact, some live in abandoned buildings for years.
And I have no idea what this useless post of yours have to do with this discourse?
A retarded schiz patient like you with no insight, trying to attempt cerebral discourses, would worsen your prognosis.
Get mental state eval

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Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 10:26pm On Apr 24
MaxInDHouse:


They made me a lover of peace through their teachings otherwise as a soldier i supposed to be somewhere now using the talent to kill in mass but instead of killing now as a soldier of Christ Jesus i cash people alive! Luke 5:10

Millions throughout the earth have had the same experience and became lovers of peace! Isaiah 2:4
Who would deploy u to fight in the middle east or europe? When did Nigeria join the fray?
Are you mentally challenged?
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 10:27pm On Apr 24
Aemmyjah:


Jaephoenix is just pained and his intelligence is beaten and that's why he'll resort to lies... How could we grope inside the KH?
He's unwell
Okay, now u r calling it lies. If I show u evidence, u would now say its not only JW that grope kids
Castrated idiota

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Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Edybleketara: 10:34pm On Apr 24
StillDtruth:


Why do you always play ignorant?

You just admitted the pattern shows no thing comes out of nothing, does it not impliedly prove.that the things we see are all creations created by Some Super Great Person people call God?
So who created this God, or did he came out of nothing??

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Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Edybleketara: 10:50pm On Apr 24
MaxInDHouse:


They made me a lover of peace through their teachings otherwise as a soldier i supposed to be somewhere now using the talent to kill in mass but instead of killing now as a soldier of Christ Jesus i cash people alive! Luke 5:10

Millions throughout the earth have had the same experience and became lovers of peace! Isaiah 2:4
A lover of peace that comes to a faceless forum and calls people derogatory names when they don't agree with your beliefs. But offline when you go out and preach to people face to face you act like you are a saint. Jws and pretending are like 5&6.

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Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by StillDtruth: 6:16am On Apr 25
Edybleketara:
So who created this God, or did he came out of nothing??

Out of poin!

We are talking about the things we see and have seen which is us and our universe, and not about God and His own "world and Universe" which we have never seen. So over the bar!
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by StillDtruth: 6:23am On Apr 25
jaephoenix:

Actually some homeless folks do that. In fact, some live in abandoned buildings for years.
And I have no idea what this useless post of yours have to do with this discourse?
A retarded schiz patient like you with no insight, trying to attempt cerebral discourses, would worsen your prognosis.
Get mental state eval

That's not true. There house owners always have someone watching over their houses and that person must report to the owner that unknown persons have entered his house.

And for you not to have any idea what my post is about shows how very stupid and.vacuum headed you are. You should be given away to condemn, condemn.
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by StillDtruth: 6:33am On Apr 25
LordReed:


It's not establishing a god, it's a pattern establishing natural processes. The one being ignorant here is you.

The pattern has already established A Super Great Person people call God, you are just pretending as if you do not know implications eg a battered face means the person has been in a fight or was beaten like this guy's father.

https://www.nairaland.com/8069474/man-recounts-how-father-returned#129573717
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:27am On Apr 25
jaephoenix:

Who would deploy u to fight in the middle east or europe? When did Nigeria join the fray?
Are you mentally challenged?
Now it's obvious you're just a kid.

When you grow up you will learn more about life! smiley
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29am On Apr 25
Edybleketara:

A lover of peace that comes to a faceless forum and calls people derogatory names when they don't agree with your beliefs. But offline when you go out and preach to people face to face you act like you are a saint. Jws and pretending are like 5&6.

Where are the derogatory names i used?

Guy if you respect people's beliefs they will do the same for you no matter what you think about their beliefs! smiley
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by LordReed(m): 7:40am On Apr 25
StillDtruth:


The pattern has already established A Super Great Person people call God, you are just pretending as if you do not know implications eg a battered face means the person has been in a fight or was beaten like this guy's father.

https://www.nairaland.com/8069474/man-recounts-how-father-returned#129573717

The pattern established shows no super great person only natural processes. Your fantasy doesn't trump the facts.
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Emusan(m): 8:10am On Apr 25
jaephoenix:
1. He who alleges must provide proof. Its an old axiom. You allege there’s a god. Proof lies on you. If I tell you I have a red dragon living in my garage, the next question should be from you to me and that is 'prove it'. It shouldn't be from me to tell you to 'prove I don't have a red dragon in my garage'.

So you don't have evidence that God doesn't exist despite claiming that you deal with EVIDENCE.

Anyways, the evidence of God's existence is the intelligence mind behind creation which shows that our universe was Designer and not from random events.

2. Scientists are still doing research on the origin of the universe. Also research on pre-Big Bang events are ongoing

That's what I'm saying, you're waiting for someone to tell you what to believe.

3. I wasnt there at the beginning of the universe. Neither were u. So obviously we have to believe whatever we are told but it must be verifiable and logical.

Who will verify it, you or another person?

How will it be verified?

Your book told stories that have been found to be lies. Simple

Who found it to be lie?

4. Your creator informed you through what? Email? Call? Sms? Lol. These guys are wonderful grin

Through His word pen down many years ago by those who have encountered with Him, and I confirmed it by having the same encounter with Him as well, which proved that what was pen down years ago were true.

Muslims would say the same thing. Same as Hindus. All claiming their creator told them. All the stories conflicting. So who should I believe? grin

From your post you established that:
1. We have to believe whatever we are told.
2. Then verify.

So if Muslim, Hindus all claim the same, you need to BELIEVE THEM FIRST (according to you) then you verify.

But remember I asked you how can it be verified?

5. Are you ready to discuss the contradictions and lies in the creation story? If yes, I would do a thread and tag u and other Christians, so u would know. Just tell me yes and I'll do it. Yes or no? grin
Please don't dodge

You don't need to box yourself in a corner, you can do whatever you want on this forum.

If you think there's a contradiction in the creation story, you can open a thread and tag whoever you and I'm even sure those you did not tag will still engage.

You're not the first who will think many contradictions are in the Bible, in fact, someone came up with 101 contradictions in the Bible but trust me, that was addressed by Bible students too.
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Aemmyjah(m): 8:54am On Apr 25
jaephoenix:

Okay, now u r calling it lies. If I show u evidence, u would now say its not only JW that grope kids
Castrated idiota

Show evidence na
Same you showed nonsense that one of us was murdering people
Same you calling yourself a doctor said that labor in women is not painful

Who would listen to you?
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Aemmyjah(m): 8:56am On Apr 25
jaephoenix:

1. Which evidence are you tendering?
2. And when did I tell you labor isn't painful?
And to think hopefulLandlord wants to engage this dullard? SMH

1. So cos people tell you that the universe came by a big bang, kaboom! Is what is appealing to you

2. Go and search it yourself. You said it and said your gyne professor taught you
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 9:21am On Apr 25
Aemmyjah:


1. So cos people tell you that the universe came by a big bang, kaboom! Is what is appealing to you

2. Go and search it yourself. You said it and said your gyne professor taught you

1. Big bang wasnt stated as the origin of the universe. No scientist said that.
And yet you deflected the question. For the last time, what evidence are you tendering
2. Idiota, I never said labor is not painful. I said labor is not difficult. If you have difficulty differentiating the 2 words, ask a 2 year ago.
I now understand why your denomination prohibited higher education. They love you guys to be retarded, illiterate and without reasoning
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 9:39am On Apr 25
Aemmyjah:


Show evidence na
Same you showed nonsense that one of us was murdering people
Same you calling yourself a doctor said that labor in women is not painful

Who would listen to you?
1. JW man gruesomely murders wife, not even another person
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13034603/killer-cowboy-builder-wife-reveals-job.html#:~:text=Wolverhampton%20Crown%20Court%20heard%20Norgrove's,no%20winners%20in%20this%20case'.

There are many instances online, but I picked this one cos of how bloody it is
Oya talk say na lie

2. Its like English is really a problem for you to understand. Ogbeni, I never said labor is painless. I said labor is easy but its also painful, especially multiparous women. Ever heard of precipitous labor, idiota?

Labor
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 9:46am On Apr 25
Emusan:


So you don't have evidence that God doesn't exist despite claiming that you deal with EVIDENCE.

Anyways, the evidence of God's existence is the intelligence mind behind creation which shows that our universe was Designer and not from random events.



That's what I'm saying, you're waiting for someone to tell you what to believe.



Who will verify it, you or another person?

How will it be verified?



Who found it to be lie?



Through His word pen down many years ago by those who have encountered with Him, and I confirmed it by having the same encounter with Him as well, which proved that what was pen down years ago were true.



From your post you established that:
1. We have to believe whatever we are told.
2. Then verify.

So if Muslim, Hindus all claim the same, you need to BELIEVE THEM FIRST (according to you) then you verify.

But remember I asked you how can it be verified?



You don't need to box yourself in a corner, you can do whatever you want on this forum.

If you think there's a contradiction in the creation story, you can open a thread and tag whoever you and I'm even sure those you did not tag will still engage.

You're not the first who will think many contradictions are in the Bible, in fact, someone came up with 101 contradictions in the Bible but trust me, that was addressed by Bible students too.
Ok. I would address all these points in the thread and tag ya'll
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 11:03am On Apr 25
MaxInDHouse:

Now it's obvious you're just a kid.

When you grow up you will learn more about life! smiley
Lol. Idiota has been found out on a lie and the only thing he can say is that I'm a kid
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 11:05am On Apr 25
StillDtruth:


That's not true. There house owners always have someone watching over their houses and that person must report to the owner that unknown persons have entered his house.

And for you not to have any idea what my post is about shows how very stupid and.vacuum headed you are. You should be given away to condemn, condemn.
Go to some estates, you'll see abandoned houses. Even in your own estate, they have some. U add lying to your armory. Wonderful Christian
If u can't explain the correlation then fvck off
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:09am On Apr 25
jaephoenix:

Lol. Idiota has been found out on a lie and the only thing he can say is that I'm a kid

Grow up kid then you will learn how to reason intelligently for now you're not fit for mature talks in the midst of intellectuals. smiley
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Edybleketara: 1:18pm On Apr 25
StillDtruth:


Out of poin!

We are talking about the things we see and have seen which is us and our universe, and not about God and His own "world and Universe" which we have never seen. So over the bar!
You don't understand how the universe works so you invented God to fill in the void even though you have no proof that this God created the universe.
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by jaephoenix(m): 1:40pm On Apr 25
StillDtruth:


Out of poin!

We are talking about the things we see and have seen which is us and our universe, and not about God and His own "world and Universe" which we have never seen. So over the bar!
Edybleketara, engaging this dude is a waste of time. He's psychotic. Don't say u weren't warned
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by StillDtruth: 3:21pm On Apr 25
Edybleketara:
You don't understand how the universe works so you invented God to fill in the void even though you have no proof that this God created the universe.

Offpoint yet again.

The topic is not "how the universe works"
No man understands how the universe works but the one thing we are certain about all over the world is that, no thing created itself nor is there any thing in the universe which is capable of creating itself out of nothing.

So God is automatically proven by the implication and real eyesation that no thng in this universe that we have seen and can see created itself.
Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Edybleketara: 4:47pm On Apr 25
StillDtruth:


Offpoint yet again.

The topic is not "how the universe works"
No man understands how the universe works but the one thing we are certain about all over the world is that, no thing created itself nor is there any thing in the universe which is capable of creating itself out of nothing.

So God is automatically proven by the implication and real eyesation that no thng in this universe that we have seen and can see created itself.
If you have proof that God exist and he's real and not imaginary, you won't be here on nl arguing. Galileo didn't prove the sun is the center of the solar system by arguing, Newton didn't prove gravity by arguing, Einstein didn't prove relativity by arguing.

If you have proof that God exist, you will publish your findings detailing the experiments you carried out, the methodology you used, the statistics involved in the research and so on. Your publication will be checked and scrutinized by relevant authorities, which will then verify your claim. That is how you prove something. Not coming online to argue and regurgitate what you have been spoon fed and brainwashed to believe.

So far nobody has proved the existence of God and the fact you come online to argue about God shows you have no proof of his existence. You only bring God into the equation because you don't understand how the universe works and you have been too brainwashed to accept that fact.

Even scientists accept they don't know everything about the origin of the universe, but you religious folks who have never carried out one single experiment are claiming you know everything about the universe.

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