₦airaland Forum

MightySparrow:
So far your prophet distorted Jewish scriptures and history what is the use of the comparison?


See.
The problems going on between Palestine and Israel today is as a result of distraction of scriptures.

Your prophet brought confusion to life and many lives are being lost based on wrong scriptures of Islam.

AbuTwins see finishing. You no dey shame?

Padipadi:
AbuTwins see finishing. You no dey shame?

Where's the incoherent finishing?

AbuTwins:
No mind that guy!
Insincerity is written all over them!

Who did Muhammad write the letter to in najran. Where are Christians in Najran?
This is a lie

Explore2xmore:
Najrān is a location traced back to 4,000 years ago. It was once occupied by the Romans; in fact, it was the first Saudi city to fall to the Romans on their way to the Saudi Arabia kingdom of Saudi.


According to Najran Jewish tradition, the Jews of Najran traced their origin to the Ten Tribes. Najran was also an important stopping place on the incense trade route.


See also
https://www.nodc.noaa.gov/archive/arc0216/0253808/2.2/data/0-data/Region-2-WMO-Normals-9120/SaudiArabia/CSV/Najran_41128.csv

But there's no such thing as a letter from Muhammad to Christians in Najran

AbuTwins:
In the Bible, there are verses that condemn specific practices related to child sacrifice and idolatry.

- **Leviticus 18:21 (NIV)**: "Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord." This verse explicitly prohibits offering children as sacrifices to the Canaanite god Molek, emphasizing the abhorrence of such practices.

- **Leviticus 20:3 (NIV)**: "I myself will set my face against him and will cut him off from his people; for by sacrificing his children to Molek, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name." This verse reiterates the condemnation of sacrificing children to Molek and highlights the severe consequences of such actions.

- **Deuteronomy 12:30-31 (NIV)**: "and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, 'How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.' You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods." These verses warn against adopting the practices of idolatrous nations, including the abhorrent act of sacrificing children in the fire.

- **Psalm 106:37-38 (NIV)**: "They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to false gods. They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood." This passage reflects on Israel's history of idolatry and child sacrifice, highlighting the gravity of these sins and their consequences.

But how will God then sacrifice his own son in vicarious atonement again?

Look at this wasted idolater talking. You think this is about dead gods and idol worshipping.
Btw hope you've worshipped your idol this evening?

Kukutente23:
But there's no such thing as a letter from Muhammad to Christians in Najran

Because Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write?

He had scribes you know

AbuTwins:
That has been done here before.
You should look for it.

Go to Islamic section and search!

Na Bible be the topic here!

See my latest topics below:

Paul lies and accuses Peter and others of hypocrisy!
https://www.nairaland.com/8085965/paul-lies-accuses-peter-others

Jacob In The Bible Vs Jacob In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?)
https://www.nairaland.com/8085664/jacob-bible-vs-jacob-quran

Even MaxInDHouse, Padipadi, SIRTee15, itzadorable333, Ken4Christ, Kobojunkie, AlbertoIancu, wiseoneking, RightChannel, Aemmyjah, Kukutente23, FxMasterz, Steep, StillDtruth, kingthreat, diogo23, Pimine, jesusjnr2020, Akell are invited to peruse!

Abeg no derail my thread o!
Read and if you no fit stay in the thread please waka!
Any abuse na to report straight off!

I will posting Joseph In The Bible Vs Joseph In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?) soon!

If you go to hell, it's your fault. Don't blame destiny that you were raised up in the Islamic way. Now, you are grown up. Read in honest search for truth and deceit. You will find so much deceit in your Quran that is enough for you to renounce Islam. For instance;

1. Your Quran is not a complete revelation. It made references to the Bible several times for further consultation.

2. Mohammed wasn't a holy man. He was a sinner like everyone else. He had no special status to separate him from the common man.

3. He doesn't have the endorsement of any known Prophet. But Jesus had hundreds of Prophecies hundreds of years before he was born. And even during his earthly ministry, he was unveiled by a Prophet, John the Baptist.

4. Mohammed married a six year old girl, Aisha and consummated the marriage when she was 9 years. This is child Abuse. Will you give your daughter out in marriage at the age of 6.

5. Mohammed confessed he is not sure of what will become of him and those following. And you are still following. I pity you all.

6. Even your Quran says that it's the followers of Jesus who are supreme - Quran 3:55

7. Your Allah is described as having two right hands. If you see someone like that in your dream, won't you be scared.

8. In one verse, your book says that there is no compulsion in religion. In another place it says kill unbelievers.

9. Your Allah promise paradise to those who kill unbelievers. But the Bible condemns murder. All murderers will go to hell. Such instruction is actually luring souls to hell.

10. You said Jesus didn't die. Those who were eye witnesses saw him crucified. Mohammed came about 600 years later and said Jesus didn't die. And you believe his testimony more than clouds of witnesses that not only saw him being killed but also saw him after his resurrection and even ate with him. Are you all hypnotized? Can't you see that someone is trying to ensure you never find salvation. Redemption for mankind is in the death of Jesus. Why not take a bold step and walk away from these lies as many other Muslims have done?

11. Mohammed doesn't have a single credential of a Prophet. A prophet without prophecies. A prophet without miracles. A prophet without a holy living.

12. Allah can never forgive you Muslims because you ought to pass through Mohammed for Allah to forgive you. Now, Mohammed is dead. So, how will a dead man stand as a mediator between you and Allah.

I could go on and on.

Please, save your life. You are not deceived. You know you are not on the right track. No guarantee of salvation in Islam. Only Jesus saves.

Explore2xmore:
Because Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write?

He had scribes you know

Who are the scribes? There's no evidence of any letter to Najran

Kukutente23:
Who did Muhammad write the letter to in najran. Where are Christians in Najran?
This is a lie

K

Ken4Christ:
If you go to hell, it's your fault. Don't blame destiny that you were raised up in the Islamic way. Now, you are grown up. Read in honest search for truth and deceit. You will find so much deceit in your Quran that is enough for you to renounce Islam. For instance;

1. Your Quran is not a complete revelation. It made references to the Bible several times for further consultation.

2. Mohammed wasn't a holy man. He was a sinner like everyone else. He had no special status to separate him from the common man.

3. He doesn't have the endorsement of any known Prophet. But Jesus had hundreds of Prophecies hundreds of years before he was born. And even during his earthly ministry, he was unveiled by a Prophet, John the Baptist.

4. Mohammed married a six year old girl, Aisha and consummated the marriage when she was 9 years. This is child Abuse. Will you give your daughter out in marriage at the age of 6.

5. Mohammed confessed he is not sure of what will become of him and those following. And you are still following. I pity you all.

6. Even your Quran says that it's the followers of Jesus who are supreme - Quran 3:55

7. Your Allah is described as having two right hands. If you see someone like that in your dream, won't you be scared.

8. In one verse, your book says that there is no compulsion in religion. In another place it says kill unbelievers.

9. Your Allah promise paradise to those who kill unbelievers. But the Bible condemns murder. All murderers will go to hell. Such instruction is actually luring souls to hell.

10. You said Jesus didn't die. Those who were eye witnesses saw him crucified. Mohammed came about 600 years later and said Jesus didn't die. And you believe his testimony more than clouds of witnesses that not only saw him being killed but also saw him after his resurrection and even ate with him. Are you all hypnotized? Can't you see that someone is trying to ensure you never find salvation. Redemption for mankind is in the death of Jesus. Why not take a bold step and walk away from these lies as many other Muslims have done?

11. Mohammed doesn't have a single credential of a Prophet. A prophet without prophecies. A prophet without miracles. A prophet without a holy living.

12. Allah can never forgive you Muslims because you ought to pass through Mohammed for Allah to forgive you. Now, Mohammed is dead. So, how will a dead man stand as a mediator between you and Allah.

I could go on and on.

Please, save your life. You are not deceived. You know you are not on the right track. No guarantee of salvation in Islam. Only Jesus saves.

You just tried to derail the thread with lies and more lies!

Your holy spirit no get network again?

AbuTwins:
You just tried to derail the thread with lies and more lies!

Your holy spirit no get network again?

Jesus loves you so dearly. Give him a chance. And you will experience real time and real life transformation. Don't harden your heart.

Ken4Christ:
Jesus loves you so dearly. Give him a chance. And you will experience real time and real life transformation. Don't harden your heart.

Jesus that doesn't love himself to kill himself. How will he love me?

AbuTwins:
That has been done here before.
You should look for it.

Go to Islamic section and search!

Na Bible be the topic here!

See my latest topics below:

Paul lies and accuses Peter and others of hypocrisy!
https://www.nairaland.com/8085965/paul-lies-accuses-peter-others

Jacob In The Bible Vs Jacob In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?)
https://www.nairaland.com/8085664/jacob-bible-vs-jacob-quran

Even MaxInDHouse, Padipadi, SIRTee15, itzadorable333, Ken4Christ, Kobojunkie, AlbertoIancu, wiseoneking, RightChannel, Aemmyjah, Kukutente23, FxMasterz, Steep, StillDtruth, kingthreat, diogo23, Pimine, jesusjnr2020, Akell are invited to peruse!

Abeg no derail my thread o!
Read and if you no fit stay in the thread please waka!
Any abuse na to report straight off!

I will posting Joseph In The Bible Vs Joseph In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?) soon!

You should be more worried about what is about to befall you and your generations for derailing from the the path of your Creator.
You think this is about the dead, invalid idol you know and worship. Idolater. You don't know you are dead, you don't even exist.
Ask about THE ONE WHO IS, so you can breathe.

AntiisIam:
AbuTwins, you mean you're not a slave of allah? This is serious then

Wait for the mods!

AntiisIam:
AbuTwins, you mean you're not a slave of allah? This is serious then

😂 😂 😂 AL ABU IBN SLAVE..

AbuTwins:
Jesus that doesn't love himself to kill himself. How will he love me?

Haha 😂😂 see this dead man, don't worry He didn't die for dead people. We who He died for, we know ourselves. And you can't imagine the volume of our Halleluyah.

itzadorable333:
😂 😂 😂 AL ABU IBN SLAVE..

The guy dey report his dad for calling him slave as if e no be slave of allah

AbuTwins:
Wait for the mods!

So you don't want to be refer to as slave of allah abi? Better take your frustration to Muhammad and allah that tag you their followers as slaves

AbuTwins:
In the Bible, there are verses that condemn specific practices related to child sacrifice and idolatry.
But how will God then sacrifice his own son in vicarious atonement again?

So, where exactly is it written that the God of Israel — YHWH— sacrificed His son? Let's start with that first.

AntiisIam:
The guy dey report his dad for calling him slave as if e no be slave of allah

E funny me o

AntiisIam:
So you don't want to be refer to as slave of allah abi? Better take your frustration to Muhammad and allah that tag you their followers as slaves

😂 😆 😂

Kobojunkie:
So, where exactly is it written that the God of Israel — YHWH— sacrificed His son? Let's start with that first.

Can he read?
Can he understand your question?

Kobojunkie:
So, where exactly is it written that the God of Israel — YHWH— sacrificed His son? Let's start with that first.

John 3:16

AbuTwins:
John 3:16

Please be more specific as simply listing a random verse does not help us out here at all.

Jesus Christ, the one who made the statement found in the passage instead insists that in much the same way God gave the Bronze snake to the Israelites in the desert as a path to redemption, He too was being given to the Israelites who were condemned of His time so that they no longer be condemned.

14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert.[a] It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted up too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
[b]16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life. - John 3 vs 14 - 16

So, how could the above passage be the response to the question I had asked earlier of where exactly is it written that the God of Israel — YHWH— sacrificed His son?

Kobojunkie:
Please be more specific as simply listing a random verse does not help us out here at all.

Jesus Christ, the one who made the statement found in the passage instead insists that in much the same way God gave the Bronze snake to the Israelites in the desert as a path to redemption, He too was being given to the Israelites who were condemned of His time so that they no longer be condemned.
So, how could the above passage be the response to the question I had asked earlier of where exactly is it written that the God of Israel — YHWH— sacrificed His son?

He gave his only son as a ransom!

Hebrews 9:28: "so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."

John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Romans 5:8: "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

1 John 4:9-10: "This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins."

The holistic translation of all this is that God basically sacrificed his son...

AbuTwins:
■ He gave his only son as a ransom!
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
■ Hebrews 9:28: "so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."
Romans 5:8: "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
1 John 4:9-10: "This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins."
The holistic translation of all this is that God basically sacrificed his son...

1. So, it was not Jesus Christ that made this statement and definitely not the God of Israel either, meaning your OP is wrong regarding the God of Israel — YHWH — and His son, Jesus Christ then, yes? I say this since you were not able to show that John 3 vs 16 contains the claim that you made against God of Israel!

2. There is nothing "holistic" about your special interpretation of the contents of those 3 verses which you conveniently pulled out of context there. The passage below, in the very words of Jesus Christ Himself, explains what the sacrificing was all about.

14-15 “I am the shepherd who cares for the sheep. I know my sheep just as the Father knows me. And my sheep know me just as I know the Father. I give my life for these sheep.
16 I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future there will be one flock and one shepherd.[a]
17 The Father loves me because I give my life. I give my life so that I can get it back again.
18 No one takes my life away from me. I give my own life freely. I have the right to give my life, and I have the right to get it back again. This is what the Father told me.” - John 10 vs 14- 18

The one who did the sacrificing was Jesus Christ. He put down— sacrificed— His Life and He picked it back up again— all of His very own Power and Will....

sac·ri·fice
▶ an act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to God or to a divine or supernatural figure.
▶ an act of giving up something valued for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy.
...

...and for His own gain - John 17 vs 1- 10 !

AbuTwins:
That has been done here before.
You should look for it.

Go to Islamic section and search!

Na Bible be the topic here!

See my latest topics below:

Paul lies and accuses Peter and others of hypocrisy!
https://www.nairaland.com/8085965/paul-lies-accuses-peter-others

Jacob In The Bible Vs Jacob In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?)
https://www.nairaland.com/8085664/jacob-bible-vs-jacob-quran

Even are invited to peruse!

Abeg no derail my thread o!
Read and if you no fit stay in the thread please waka!
Any abuse na to report straight off!

I will posting Joseph In The Bible Vs Joseph In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?) soon!

Even Allah in your Quran is not the same Allah in Arabic Bible