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AntiChristian:
Quote the hadith and stop the ignorant chest beating like Shaytan!

Narrated by Aisha

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah bin Naufil bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Arabic letters. He would write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as God wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.

Bukhari 1:1:3. See also Bukhari 4:55:605; Bukhari 9:87:111; Muslim 1:301.
So tell me what gospel is he translating to Arabic with the help of Allah. Remember he's a Christian convert.

AntiChristian:
I am not dumb here. The Hebrew OT has many versions that are not exactly the same!
1. Dead Sea Scrolls
2. Masoretic Texts
3. Septuagint
4. Codex Leningradensis

And there are more versions!

There's only one version of the old testament and that's the Tanakh- the Hebrew bible, all versions U mentioned are simply translation of the Tanakh.
Septuagint is the greek translation of the Hebrew bible, Masoretic text is the same as Tanakh- it's the authoritative Tanakh of the Jewish religion.
Codex leningradensis is the oldest extant copy of the
Masoretic text we have with us.

Dead sea scrolls is not a bible. It's ancient extant manuscripts of Jewish religious literatures and includes books in the tanakh. There are other literatures found in the dead sea scrolls that are not
related to the tanakh.
Pls do more reading b4 posting it will help with your ignorance.

AntiChristian:
The New Testaments too has many manuscript versions that are not exactly the same like Textus Receptus, Ryland Papyrus P52, etc.

Guy u mentioning extants manuscripts of the greek NT. Some of them are just a page of their book!!!!
It's like someone saying Birmingham manuscript is a copy of the Qur'an.
Read guy...read.

AntiChristian:
So which was used to translate your Syriac Bible?
So when people go for trade they discuss other people's religion?
Give us proofs for you opinion!

Did Muhammed speak to Jews in Medina?
Did he speak to Waraka who had the injeel with him
Communication with your business partner is not limited to trade, U discuss other things...don't U?

The concept is to show U the injeel and tawrat were not isolated from Muhammed.

AntiChristian:
Do you believe in those Books as word of God too or na cherry picking you dey do? You mentioned the dead sea scroll and it is against you now! The dead sea scroll is just a collection of ancient writings no one can ascertain their true authorship or even if they are true!

Guy we already have the tanakh 100 yrs b4 the dead sea scrolls.
The Jews had canonised their scriptures and compiled it into one book called tanakh 150 yrs b4 dead sea scrolls were written.
Manuscripts in the dead sea scrolls are just the oldest extant manuscripts of the old testament books that we have.
Do U know what extant means? because he be like say na English dey worry U!!

SIRTee15:
Narrated by Aisha

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah bin Naufil bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Arabic letters. He would write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as God wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.

Bukhari 1:1:3. See also Bukhari 4:55:605; Bukhari 9:87:111; Muslim 1:301.
So tell me what gospel is he translating to Arabic with the help of Allah. Remember he's a Christian convert.




There's only one version of the old testament and that's the Tanakh- the Hebrew bible, all versions U mentioned are simply translation of the Tanakh.
Septuagint is the greek translation of the Hebrew bible, Masoretic text is the same as Tanakh- it's the authoritative Tanakh of the Jewish religion.
Codex leningradensis is the oldest extant copy of the
Masoretic text we have with us.

Dead sea scrolls is not a bible. It's ancient extant manuscripts of Jewish religious literatures and includes books in the tanakh. There are other literatures found in the dead sea scrolls that are not
related to the tanakh.
Pls do more reading b4 posting it will help with your ignorance.


Guy u mentioning extants manuscripts of the greek NT. Some of them are just a page of their book!!!!
It's like someone saying Birmingham manuscript is a copy of the Qur'an.
Read guy...read.


Did Muhammed speak to Jews in Medina?
Did he speak to Waraka who had the injeel with him
Communication with your business partner is not limited to trade, U discuss other things...don't U?

The concept is to show U the injeel and tawrat were not isolated from Muhammed.





Guy we already have the tanakh 100 yrs b4 the dead sea scrolls.
The Jews had canonised their scriptures and compiled it into one book called tanakh 150 yrs b4 dead sea scrolls were written.
Manuscripts in the dead sea scrolls are just the oldest extant manuscripts of the old testament books that we have.
Do U know what extant means? because he be like say na English dey worry U!!

Ask antichristian about the whereabouts of
1. The Qur'an of Mohammed collected during his lifetime
2. The Qur'an of Abubaker (which was missing some verses)
3. The Qur'an of Uthman which was a revised edition of Abubaker's Quran.

Ask him how come the Qur'an they use now is from the RECITATION (not from the Qur'an of Mohammed or Abubakar or even Uthman) from a guy called Hafs?

Ask him why no Muslim will take the Hadith from Hafs seriously. Isn't he a hadith fabricator like his father?


And he is talking about oldest bible manuscript.


Ask him about the oldest COMPLETE Manuscript of the (not three or four pages) Qur'an. Let's hear if he would say it's the Birmingham Quran manuscript so that we can laugh

TenQ:
Ask antichristian about the whereabouts of
1. The Qur'an of Mohammed collected during his lifetime
2. The Qur'an of Abubaker (which was missing some verses)
3. The Qur'an of Uthman which was a revised edition of Abubaker's Quran.

Ask him how come the Qur'an they use now is from the RECITATION (not from the Qur'an of Mohammed or Abubakar or even Uthman) from a guy called Hafs?

Ask him why no Muslim will take the Hadith from Hafs seriously. Isn't he a hadith fabricator like his father?


And he is talking about oldest bible manuscript.


Ask him about the oldest COMPLETE Manuscript of the (not three or four pages) Qur'an. Let's hear if he would say it's the Birmingham Quran manuscript so that we can laugh

TenQ longest time. I think U should have a social media platform to expose the lies of Muhammed.

Antichristian what's the oldest extant manuscript of the Quran u guys have.

SIRTee15:
Narrated by Aisha

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah bin Naufil bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Arabic letters. He would write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as God wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.

Bukhari 1:1:3. See also Bukhari 4:55:605; Bukhari 9:87:111; Muslim 1:301.
So tell me what gospel is he translating to Arabic with the help of Allah. Remember he's a Christian convert.




There's only one version of the old testament and that's the Tanakh- the Hebrew bible, all versions U mentioned are simply translation of the Tanakh.
Septuagint is the greek translation of the Hebrew bible, Masoretic text is the same as Tanakh- it's the authoritative Tanakh of the Jewish religion.
Codex leningradensis is the oldest extant copy of the
Masoretic text we have with us.

Dead sea scrolls is not a bible. It's ancient extant manuscripts of Jewish religious literatures and includes books in the tanakh. There are other literatures found in the dead sea scrolls that are not
related to the tanakh.
Pls do more reading b4 posting it will help with your ignorance.


Guy u mentioning extants manuscripts of the greek NT. Some of them are just a page of their book!!!!
It's like someone saying Birmingham manuscript is a copy of the Qur'an.
Read guy...read.


Did Muhammed speak to Jews in Medina?
Did he speak to Waraka who had the injeel with him
Communication with your business partner is not limited to trade, U discuss other things...don't U?

The concept is to show U the injeel and tawrat were not isolated from Muhammed.





Guy we already have the tanakh 100 yrs b4 the dead sea scrolls.
The Jews had canonised their scriptures and compiled it into one book called tanakh 150 yrs b4 dead sea scrolls were written.
Manuscripts in the dead sea scrolls are just the oldest extant manuscripts of the old testament books that we have.
Do U know what extant means? because he be like say na English dey worry U!!

Antichristian may want to explain why all these Qur'ans are different.

Hafs
Warsh
Qalun
al-Duri
al-Bazzi
Qunbul
al-Suri
Ibn `Amir
Hisham
Parts of Yemen
Ibn Dhakwan
Khallad
al-Kisa'i
al-Duri
Abu'l-Harith
Ibn Wardan
Ibn Jamaz
Ya`qub al-Hashimi
Ruways
Rawh
Khalaf al-Bazzar
Ishaq
Idris al-Haddad
Khalaf



Which one of them is exact copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?

TenQ:
Antichristian may want to explain why all these Qur'ans are different.

Hafs
Warsh
Qalun
al-Duri
al-Bazzi
Qunbul
al-Suri
Ibn `Amir
Hisham
Parts of Yemen
Ibn Dhakwan
Khallad
al-Kisa'i
al-Duri
Abu'l-Harith
Ibn Wardan
Ibn Jamaz
Ya`qub al-Hashimi
Ruways
Rawh
Khalaf al-Bazzar
Ishaq
Idris al-Haddad
Khalaf



Which one of them is exact copy of the Qur'an of Allah in paradise?

Antichristian which of the above is the true Qur'an?

SIRTee15:
TenQ longest time. I think U should have a social media platform to expose the lies of Muhammed.

Antichristian what's the oldest extant manuscript of the COMPLETE Quran u guys have.

I'm more of a private person o: although on a personal level I preach to Muslims.

He should give it's age.

The Birmingham Quran manuscript is just two pages of containing extracts from three surahs. This is why the oldest Qur'an the have is according to the recitation of one unreliable liar called Hafs.

TenQ:
He is unable to enter into his creation!
QED!

It's not about needing to, it is about ability to do!

Sorry!

God didn't need to enter anybody to come to this earth to control all the universe..
You don't think for once JESUS as a God come to Earth but who controls the other billions of planets since the God his now on earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exodus 9
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth

Then why did you have eyes but do not see
Why did you have brain but not process

SIRTee15:
Narrated by Aisha

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah bin Naufil bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Arabic letters. He would write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as God wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.

Bukhari 1:1:3. See also Bukhari 4:55:605; Bukhari 9:87:111; Muslim 1:301.
So tell me what gospel is he translating to Arabic with the help of Allah. Remember he's a Christian convert.

It has been truly authentically established that Khadeejah took the Prophet to Waraqah when the Prophet received the divine revelation for the first time as you quoted above. When the Prophet told him what had happened to him, Waraqah said, 'This is the Namoos (i.e., the Angel who is entrusted with the Divine messages) that Allaah had sent to Moosa (Moses may Allaah exalt his mention). I wish I were younger and stronger. I wish I could live to the time when your people will drive you out.' The authentic traditions in this regard did not mention that Waraqah had preached the Prophet or taught him any beliefs or legislations or that the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam, frequented his house and studied at his hands as they alleged. Any fair-minded impartial person who listens to the words of Waraqah can easily deduce that he wished he could live longer and become the student and faithful defender of the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam, to support and defend him at the time of affliction. However, some people stubbornly held fast to their false claim and reversed the facts to claim that Waraqah was the teacher from whom the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam, learned his religion and the Quran. How misguided and sinful is your false Judgment!”

So quote where Waraqah taught Muhammad anything?

There's only one version of the old testament and that's the Tanakh- the Hebrew bible, all versions U mentioned are simply translation of the Tanakh.
Septuagint is the greek translation of the Hebrew bible, Masoretic text is the same as Tanakh- it's the authoritative Tanakh of the Jewish religion.
Codex leningradensis is the oldest extant copy of the
Masoretic text we have with us.

Dead sea scrolls is not a bible. It's ancient extant manuscripts of Jewish religious literatures and includes books in the tanakh. There are other literatures found in the dead sea scrolls that are not
related to the tanakh.
Pls do more reading b4 posting it will help with your ignorance.

Yeah i am ignorant but you are more ignorant here.
- There is not only one version of the Old Testament; the Tanakh is one version, but there are others, such as the Septuagint and the Masoretic Text.
- The Septuagint is not just a Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible; it is an important ancient Greek translation with its own significance according to your scholars.
- The Masoretic Text is not exactly the same as the Tanakh; it is a specific Hebrew text preserved by the Masoretes.
- The Codex Leningradensis is an important manuscript of the Masoretic Text, but it is not the oldest extant copy that exist.
- The Dead Sea Scrolls are not just ancient manuscripts of Jewish religious literature; they also contain texts that are not part of the Tanakh, making them more than just a collection of biblical texts.

Guy u mentioning extants manuscripts of the greek NT. Some of them are just a page of their book!!!!
It's like someone saying Birmingham manuscript is a copy of the Qur'an.
Read guy...read.

Who suppose read more?

Do you agree that no Bible post-John Mill’s GNT is derived from one holistic text but from a compendium of MSS codices?

Did Muhammed speak to Jews in Medina?

Of course he did speak with Jews, idolators and all of that. The Magi too visited Jesus and gave him gift can we say Mary had an association with them or that probably Jesus learnt the Gospel he preached from them at birth.
Jesus wined and dinned with sinners! Probably they too influenced him somehow! The list can be endless!

You need to show us Muhammad learnt anything from the Jews?

Did he speak to Waraka who had the injeel with him

As i said above, Jesus spoke to the Pharisees and Sadducees in the Bible! He even went to the temple as a child! So did he learn the Gospel from someone there? You need proof to make such claim here!

Communication with your business partner is not limited to trade, U discuss other things...don't U?

Yeah, you are right! But show us your proof? The Qur'an was revealed in 23 years! Was he always on trade to learn from everywhere in the world?

The concept is to show U the injeel and tawrat were not isolated from Muhammed.

Of course they were but that doesn't substantiate your claim at all!

Guy we already have the tanakh 100 yrs b4 the dead sea scrolls.

Who are the we? What do you possess?
The Tanakh, as a collection of sacred Jewish texts, likely existed in various forms before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but the formalized canonization of the Tanakh was a gradual process and not definitively established 100 years prior to the Dead Sea Scrolls.

The Jews had canonised their scriptures and compiled it into one book called tanakh 150 yrs b4 dead sea scrolls were written.

The process of canonization of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) was a complex and evolving process over centuries, and the term "Tanakh" to refer to the three-part division of the Hebrew Bible might not have been standardized 150 years before the Dead Sea Scrolls were written. Na lie!

Manuscripts in the dead sea scrolls are just the oldest extant manuscripts of the old testament books that we have.

I agree that the manuscripts found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, including biblical texts, are indeed among the oldest extant manuscripts of the Hebrew Bible but they are not the sole existing ancient manuscripts but needs to be considered alongside other textual sources for a comprehensive understanding.

Do U know what extant means? because he be like say na English dey worry U!!

English is my Lingua Franca not my mother tongue!
Na bastard dey use left hand point out hin papa's house come use right point oyinbo's house!

Expanse2020:
God didn't need to enter anybody to come to this earth to control all the universe..
You don't think for once JESUS as a God come to Earth but who controls the other billions of planets since the God his now on earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exodus 9
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth

Then why did you have eyes but do not see
Why did you have brain but not process

I didn't ask you about NEED. I asked you about ABILITY!
The God of Israel says that nothing is IMPOSSIBLE for Him to do. Yahweh can enter into His creation without ceasing to be God!

Allah is limited and thus he CANNOT enter his creation: it is impossible!


It is certain that Yahweh is not the same personality as Allah
Is the name of Allah Yahweh?
Is Allah the Father of Jesus?

[quote author=TenQ post=130435043]I didn't ask you about NEED. I asked you about ABILITY!
The God of Israel says that nothing is IMPOSSIBLE for Him to do. Yahweh can enter into His creation without ceasing to be God!

Exodus 9
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth
Are you saying the bible is lying or you know more than the author of bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bible said no one can be compare to God on Earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣 here you are saying God enter a creation to come to save you....bala blue, blue blah blah

The God of Israel says that nothing is IMPOSSIBLE for Him to do. Yahweh can enter into His creation without ceasing to be God!

Expanse2020:
Exodus 9
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth
Are you saying the bible is lying or you know more than the author of bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bible said no one can be compare to God on Earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣 here you are saying God enter a creation to come to save you....bala blue, blue blah blah

There is NONE and no one like My God. Nothing in creation is like Him. No one including Allah can be compared with Yahweh!

My God can simultaneously be inside and outside His creation because He is a Trinity.

Tell me, who else can be both fully inside and fully outside his creation apart from Yahweh?
There is non

Allah CANNOT be inside and outside his creation at the same time, can he? No!

Can satan be inside and outside anything in creation at the same time? No!

You can see how Mohammed used Taoheed to clip the wings of Allah!

DuaWorrior:
Apology accepted. I reverse my curse, and my Allah rectify your affairs. Have wonderful night.

You have something precious: a kind heart!

Well God knows best!

TenQ:
The God of Israel says that nothing is IMPOSSIBLE for Him to do. Yahweh can enter into His creation without ceasing to be God!


There is NONE and no one like My God. Nothing in creation is like Him. No one including Allah can be compared with Yahweh!

My God can simultaneously be inside and outside His creation because He is a Trinity.

Tell me, who else can be both fully inside and fully outside his creation apart from Yahweh?
There is non

Allah CANNOT be inside and outside his creation at the same time, can he? No!

Can satan be inside and outside anything in creation at the same time? No!

You can see how Mohammed used Taoheed to clip the wings of Allah!

So are you telling the verse quoted from the bible was wrong.. that nobody can be compare to God in all earth🤣🤣🤣 this guy Kno bible pass those who wrote am sha

Expanse2020:
So are you telling the verse quoted from the bible was wrong.. that nobody can be compare to God in all earth🤣🤣🤣 this guy Kno bible pass those who wrote am sha

Only Donkeys will not be able to see that this scripture actually demonstrates the Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient nature of Yahweh.

Yahweh is everywhere in Space and Time , Physical and Spiritual.

Can Allah enter his creation without ceasing to be God? No!

Can Allah be in one than one location at a time? No! Just as a man cannot be in more than one location at any time.

Can Allah have a son without a girlfriend? No! Just like any earthly man cannot have a child without a woman.


Sorry: Allah is very much like dumb Creations with every limitations inherent in them.

Tell me, why did your prophet compare Allah with the Dajjal?

DuaWorrior:
Brother, refrain from insulting their religion. God has many names. Almost all languages have a name for God. Yahweh, I believe, is one of his names. Allah is also his name. So, do not make derogatory statements against the names by which Christians call God. Try to not insult their religion no matter the level of provocations. It's not Islamically acceptable to abuse other people's religion.
Just a brotherly advice.

Allah is not a name, it makes no sense.

TenQ:
Only Donkeys will not be able to see that this scripture actually demonstrates the Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient nature of Yahweh.

Yahweh is everywhere in Space and Time , Physical and Spiritual.

Can Allah enter his creation without ceasing to be God? No!

Can Allah be in one than one location at a time? No! Just as a man cannot be in more than one location at any time.

Can Allah have a son without a girlfriend? No! Just like any earthly man cannot have a child without a woman.


Sorry: Allah is very much like dumb Creations with every limitations inherent in them.

Tell me, why did your prophet compare Allah with the Dajjal?

Guy you are dumb OOO
The bible said in this Earth there is nothing can be compare to him..and you are still adamantly that he lived in the earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣 toor you Sabi pass those KjV self

Expanse2020:
Guy you are dumb OOO
The bible said in this Earth there is nothing can be compare to him..and you are still adamantly that he lived in the earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣 toor you Sabi pass those KjV self

I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

Your Allah fails miserably this simple test, doesn't he? According to your prophet, Allah has to come down and leave his throne above the 7th heaven to come to the lowest heaven.

TenQ:
I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

Your Allah fails miserably this simple test, doesn't he? According to your prophet, Allah has to come down and leave his throne above the 7th heaven to come to the lowest heaven.

I wonder how you interpret your own bible...when bible claimed God cannot be on earth but you are hear splitting nonsense..

You have forgotten that God of Israel is one and not three
Hear O isreal our God is one
Hear O isreal my God your God is One

Am now confused how you claimed Yahweh is now three😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
I wonder how you interpret your own bible...when bible claimed God cannot be on earth but you are hear splitting nonsense..

You have forgotten that God of Israel is one and not three
Hear O isreal our God is one
Hear O isreal my God your God is One

Am now confused how you claimed Yahweh is now three😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

The best you can do is to manufacture strawmans and lies!

Yahweh is ONE but not like the oneness of ANYTHING in Creation!
Is it untrue that Allah is one like Iblis is also one!?


I have given you a challenge: are you afraid?

Expanse2020:
I wonder how you interpret your own bible...when bible claimed God cannot be on earth but you are hear splitting nonsense..

You have forgotten that God of Israel is one and not three
Hear O isreal our God is one
Hear O isreal my God your God is One

Am now confused how you claimed Yahweh is now three😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Listen to one of your scholars


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYKi2kkGuzw?si=6ohrHYTnrwuQfRmr

TenQ:
The best you can do is to manufacture strawmans and lies!

Yahweh is ONE but not like the oneness of ANYTHING in Creation!
Is it untrue that Allah is one like Iblis is also one!?


I have given you a challenge: are you afraid?

Yahweh is one but not one
Are you kidding
Yahweh is one but also three
Can a single person can stand as a three person
Chaiiiii

Expanse2020:
Yahweh is one but not one
Are you kidding
Yahweh is one but also three
Can a single person can stand as a three person
Chaiiiii

Answer my Questions: can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?

If he cannot, he isn't God ?


Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
You won't answer because you know that Allah is not different from creations of God!

TenQ:
Answer my Questions: can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?

If he cannot, he isn't God ?


Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
You won't answer because you know that Allah is not different from creations of God!

What should I said to the person creating his own version of bible when bible said the likeness of God cannot be compare in this earth.... And he stated that God was on Earth 🤣🤣🤣
who believe satan the was the king,lord and God of this earth
The Satan rules this earth and conspired with some guys to kill little of urs🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
What should I said to the person creating his own version of bible when bible said the likeness of God cannot be compare in this earth.... And he stated that God was on Earth . 🤣🤣🤣
who believe satan the was the king,lord and God of this earth
The Satan rules this earth and conspired with some guys to kill little of urs🤣🤣🤣🤣

You are a blatant liar as my God can be visible on earth anytime He chooses.
So that you might conclude by yourself that you are a chronic liar. I will show you from the bible that which is impossible for Allah to do.

Here is God appearing to Adam and Eve in a form suitable for him (without ceasing to be God)
Gen 3:8-10:
"And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called to Adam, and said to him, Where are you? And he said, I heard your voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

Here is God appearing to Abraham in a form suitable for him (without ceasing to be God)
Gen 18:1:
"And the LORD appeared to him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;"

Gen 26:2:
"And the LORD appeared to him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell you of:"

Here is Moses reporting of God appearing to him to the children of Israel

Exo 3:16:
"Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say to them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared to me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt:"

You should apologise for lying about the God of the Jews and Christians.



Again and back to square one: Answer my Questions:

1. Can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?
If he cannot, he isn't God ?
2. Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
3. Does Allah have the ability to enter his creation without ceasing to be God
4. I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

I expect you as usual to escape by making baseless repetitions thinking that it will free you from the consequences of the Truth!





I gave you a challenge: that you might know that YAHWEH is unlike ANYONE in the Universe
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

Even your deity Allah fails woefully here

I am waiting!


BTW: See how Jesus described Allah

John 12:31:
"Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out."

John 16:11:
"Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged."

2Cor 4:4:
"In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them."
Is Allah not the lord of this world again?

AntiChristian:
It has been truly authentically established that Khadeejah took the Prophet to Waraqah when the Prophet received the divine revelation for the first time as you quoted above. When the Prophet told him what had happened to him, Waraqah said, 'This is the Namoos (i.e., the Angel who is entrusted with the Divine messages) that Allaah had sent to Moosa (Moses may Allaah exalt his mention). I wish I were younger and stronger. I wish I could live to the time when your people will drive you out.' The authentic traditions in this regard did not mention that Waraqah had preached the Prophet or taught him any beliefs or legislations or that the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam, frequented his house and studied at his hands as they alleged. Any fair-minded impartial person who listens to the words of Waraqah can easily deduce that he wished he could live longer and become the student and faithful defender of the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam, to support and defend him at the time of affliction. However, some people stubbornly held fast to their false claim and reversed the facts to claim that Waraqah was the teacher from whom the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam, learned his religion and the Quran. How misguided and sinful is your false Judgment!”

So quote where Waraqah taught Muhammad anything?

Mr Man, what gospel was Waraqah reading and translating with the help of Allah- the injeel or corrupted gospel. That's my question, dont run away.
I thought u muslim claim the gospel was corrupt, where did Waraqah came about the gospel he used to confirm the prophethood of muhammed.

AntiChristian:
Yeah i am ignorant but you are more ignorant here.
- There is not only one version of the Old Testament; the Tanakh is one version, but there are others, such as the Septuagint and the Masoretic Text.

I'm not going to waste my time with an obstinate illiterate on matters of hebrew literature.

AntiChristian:
- The Septuagint is not just a Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible; it is an important ancient Greek translation with its own significance according to your scholars.

septuagint is translated from what?

AntiChristian:
- The Masoretic Text is not exactly the same as the Tanakh; it is a specific Hebrew text preserved by the Masoretes.

what's the difference btw tanakh and masoretic text?

AntiChristian:
- The Codex Leningradensis is an important manuscript of the Masoretic Text, but it is not the oldest extant copy that exist.
- The Dead Sea Scrolls are not just ancient manuscripts of Jewish religious literature; they also contain texts that are not part of the Tanakh, making them more than just a collection of biblical texts.


Who suppose read more?

you better go research more on biblical textual criticism. your ignorance is oozing

AntiChristian:
Of course he did speak with Jews, idolators and all of that. The Magi too visited Jesus and gave him gift can we say Mary had an association with them or that probably Jesus learnt the Gospel he preached from them at birth.
Jesus wined and dinned with sinners! Probably they too influenced him somehow! The list can be endless!

Jesus message is unique, it's a new message not preached anywhere b4. Muhammed message is not uniquee. Even koran confirms muhammed message is not unique and people around Muhammed told him they have heard his message before and they are not new- they called them fables of the past.

And when OUR verses are recited to them, they say, `We have heard. If we wished we could certainly say the like of it. This is nothing but mere tales of the ancients'. S. 8:31 Sher Ali

And when it is said unto them: What hath your Lord revealed? they say: (Mere) fables of the men of old, S. 16:24


THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BTW JESUS AND MUHAMMED. THE MESSAGE OF JESSU IS UNIQUE AND NEW- HE BROUGH THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND ETERNAL LIFE THAT WERE NEVER PREACHED BEFORE. MUHAMMED BROUGHT NOTHING NEW, HIS MESSAGE WAS SIMPLY COPY AND PASTE

AntiChristian:
As i said above, Jesus spoke to the Pharisees and Sadducees in the Bible! He even went to the temple as a child! So did he learn the Gospel from someone there

Yeah, you are right! But show us your proof? The Qur'an was revealed in 23 years! Was he always on trade to learn from everywhere in the world?

Of course they were but that doesn't substantiate your claim at all!

Who are the we? What do you possess?
The Tanakh, as a collection of sacred Jewish texts, likely existed in various forms before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but the formalized canonization of the Tanakh was a gradual process and not definitively established 100 years prior to the Dead Sea Scrolls.


The process of canonization of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) was a complex and evolving process over centuries, and the term "Tanakh" to refer to the three-part division of the Hebrew Bible might not have been standardized 150 years before the Dead Sea Scrolls were written. Na lie!

The septuagint was translated around 250 BC during the reign of Ptolemy II. if the jews had no compiled hebrew bible as at 250 bc, the septuagint bible was translated from what?
answer the question.

AntiChristian:
I agree that the manuscripts found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, including biblical texts, are indeed among the oldest extant manuscripts of the Hebrew Bible but they are not the sole existing ancient manuscripts but needs to be considered alongside other textual sources for a comprehensive understanding.


English is my Lingua Franca not my mother tongue!
Na bastard dey use left hand point out hin papa's house come use right point oyinbo's house!

My friend, leave lingua franca out of it. what is the meaning of extant? what js the oldest old testament manuscript we have today? what is the significance of the dead sea scroll to the bible?

TenQ:
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Here is God appearing to Adam and Eve in a form suitable for him (without ceasing to be God)
Gen 3:8-10:
"And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called to Adam, and said to him, Where are you? And he said, I heard your voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

Here is God appearing to Abraham in a form suitable for him (without ceasing to be God)
Gen 18:1:
"And the LORD appeared to him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;"

Gen 26:2:
"And the LORD appeared to him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell you of:"

Here is Moses reporting of God appearing to him to the children of Israel

Exo 3:16:
"Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say to them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared to me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt:"

PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TELL US AMONG OF THOSE WHO TALK THERE THE ONE WHO CLAIMED HE SAW GOD PHYSICALLY
YOU BLANTLY LIER

Again and back to square one: Answer my Questions:

1. Can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?
If he cannot, he isn't God ?
2. Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
3. Does Allah have the ability to enter his creation without ceasing to be God
4. I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

I expect you as usual to escape by making baseless repetitions thinking that it will free you from the consequences of the Truth!





I gave you a challenge: that you might know that YAHWEH is unlike ANYONE in the Universe
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity? YOUR MUMU TOO MUCH
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Malachi
“I the LORD do not change

Number23
, is said to teach about God's unchangeableness and faithfulness. It highlights the difference between God's unchanging nature and the unpredictability of humans.[/b]GOD IS UNCHANGEABLE inside the bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Even your deity Allah fails woefully here
Hosea 11:9 don't you think your statement up there is confusing with the bible here

[b]For I am God and not man, because Jesus IS A MAN LIKE ME 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And GOD said he cannot be a man

Number 23
God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should repent; has he said, and will he not do it? or has he spoken, and will he not make it good?"
Jesus is a man, not God
Jesus is a son Man



BTW: See how Jesus described Allah
Just like how he was described here
[b]How awesome is the LORD Most High, the great King over all the earth! I think they were referring to Satan here too just like you claimed Satan is the lord of all the earth🤣🤣🤣
[/b]
John 12:31:
"Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out." JEsus was talking to Satan here who defeated him🤣🤣


John 16:11:
"Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged."
During the entire life of Jesus he never rule a Palestine/isreal for a day so how can you called him prince or judge of the world...that jokes iṣ ọn u🤣🤣

2Cor 4:4:
"In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them." Don't you think the verse contradict another one

Exodus 9
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth
Are you saying the bible is lying or you know more than the author of bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bible said no one can be compare to God on Earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣 here you are saying God enter a creation to come to save you....bala blue, blue blah blah



Is Allah not the lord of this world again?

Yes
ALLAH IS THE LORD OF THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING EXIST INCLUDING JESUS, SATAN, ANGEL WATER, HUMAN.. EVERYTHING

Expanse2020:
Yes
ALLAH IS THE LORD OF THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING EXIST INCLUDING JESUS, SATAN, ANGEL WATER, HUMAN.. EVERYTHING

Talk is cheap!

If Allah couldn't determine who stole the underwear nor could he raise the dead when it matters, how can he be said to be God !?





Again and back to square one: Answer my Questions:

1. Can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?
If he cannot, he isn't God ?
2. Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
3. Does Allah have the ability to enter his creation without ceasing to be God
4. I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

I expect you as usual to escape by making baseless repetitions thinking that it will free you from the consequences of the Truth!