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Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 1:52pm On Jun 15, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Jehovah accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?

2. Was Jehovah accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?

3. Was Jehovah accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle

4. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem

5. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?


Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship
Jehovah didn't give you dates. Jehovah didn't write in the Bible that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BCE.


The 70 years was nowhere recorded in the Bible to start from 607 and end 537 BCE.

That was how you were boasting and bragging about calculation of date of birth and anniversaries grin grin grin

Jehovah's Witnesses is different from Jehovah. Exposing your lies and the lies of your religious organization has nothing to do with shaming Jehovah. grin grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:24pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
So it's no longer just "historian OUTSIDE JESUS FRIENDS" cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
You shall know the truth and the BP will continue to rise cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
OK your so called historians didn't say anything about Jesus that confirmed they're in harmony with what Jesus' friends penned down shey?

Well that's the point: God's people are in a world of their own! John 17:14-19 wink
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op):
Aemmyjah:
Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship
They're arguing in support of archeologists and historians at the detriment of God's word no wonder Jesus said about God's people:

"Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth." John 17:17

Praise JEHOVAH!
God's people are SANCTIFIED but means of the TRUTH found in God's word not historical or archeological evidences from the world! smiley
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 4:05pm On Jun 15, 2024
This thing is really hitting you hard that you have to mentioned my moniker twice!

You already quoted my post which means you're referencing me, so why must you be spamming my mention within the same post again?

Aemmyjah:
answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Yahweh accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?
YES!

2. Was Yahweh accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?
YES!

3. Was Yahweh accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle
YES!

4. Was Yahweh accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem
YES!

5. Was Yahweh accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?
YES! 70 YEARS IN CAPTIVITY

Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship
I've answered!

So who did I shame, Jws or God?

Now, your turn to answer my question.

Do you agree with the archeological evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC?
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 4:08pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
OK your so called historians didn't say anything about Jesus that confirmed they're in harmony with what Jesus' friends penned down shey?

Well that's the point: God's people are in a world of their own! John 17:14-19 wink
That's not the point!

The same historians you don't want to take serious and gaslight into thinking they didn't say anything about Jesus are the ones you rely on for the date 537BC you started counting your 70 years from.

So, if you can't provide just one scholar who supported your 1914 date, then you shouldn't use the same historians date of 537BC since they are Jesus enemies grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Hypocrite!
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:43pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
The same historians you don't want to take serious and gaslight into thinking they didn't say anything about Jesus are the ones you rely on for the date 537BC you started counting your 70 years from.
Ọmọ this is the funniest post ever!

Please where did records of dates regarding the time of creation of earth and the period of Christ's birth come from?
God's inspired prophets or secular historians? cheesy

Did those your so called archeologists and historians agree with the Bible's record of dates that this planet is less than 8,000 years?

Stop deceiving yourself!
Your so called historians and archeologists are the same people telling you that the earth and humans have been here for millions of years so how do you want God's people to place what these people say above God's word?

Our Master, Lord and King prayed for us:

"Sanctify (Jehovah's Witnesses) by means of the truth; (Bible)your word is truth"

So stick to calculations from your archeologists and historians while we stick to calculations in God's word: Bible! smiley

Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 4:54pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ this is the funniest post ever!

Please where did records of dates regarding the time of creation of earth and the period of Christ's birth come from?
God's inspired prophets or secular historians? cheesy

Did those your so called archeologists and historians agree with the Bible's record of dates that this planet is less than 8,000 years?
Speaking from ignoramus angle as usual just to divert from the main point!

How many scholar agree with 607BC.

For your diversion, watchtower actually go with the same historians, archeologists and scientists that earth is actually Billion of years old.

It was even some Christians who actually trying to use Bible to justify the age of earth within the Biblical context.


Stop deceiving yourself!
Your so called historians and archeologists are the same people telling you that the earth and humans have been here for millions of years so how do you want God's people to place what these people say above God's word?
But watchtower agreed with them!

Your lying mouth has been exposed once again

@achorladey @Courz cheesy grin cheesy

Our Master, Lord and King prayed for us:

"Sanctify (Jehovah's Witnesses) by means of the truth; (Bible)your word is truth"

So stick to calculations from your archeologists and historians while we stick to calculations in God's word: Bible! smiley
But you stick to the same calculation.

Where did you get your 537BC that you added 70 years to to arrived at your 1914?

Hypocrite!
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:02pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
Speaking from ignoramus angle as usual just to divert from the main point!

How many scholar agree with 607BC.

For your diversion, watchtower actually go with the same historians, archeologists and scientists that earth is actually Billion of years old.

It was even some Christians who actually trying to use Bible to justify the age of earth within the Biblical context.




But watchtower agreed with them!

Your lying mouth has been exposed once again

@achorladey @Courz cheesy grin cheesy



But you stick to the same calculation.

Where did you get your 537BC that you added 70 years to to arrived at your 1914?

Hypocrite!
The hypocrite don't know the meaning of what he is typing sef grin grin grin

how do you want God's people to place what these people say above God's word?
MaxInDHouse your placing what historians say above God's words start from telling us that 607 marks the destruction of Jerusalem and from there to 537 to 1914. You hold his up and above the fact that Bible never said Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 and Jesus returned in 1914. grin grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:09pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
They're arguing in support of archeologists and historians at the detriment of God's word no wonder Jesus said about God's people:

"Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth." John 17:17

Praise JEHOVAH!
God's people are SANCTIFIED but means of the TRUTH found in God's word not historical or archeological evidences from the world! smiley
Looool! Go school, No. Technical education it is grin grin grin

They're arguing in support of archeologists and historians at the detriment of God's word no wonder Jesus said about God's people
607BCE and 537 BCE don't exist in the first place in the Bible grin grin grin. Your brains didn't tell you that, you are equally supporting the historians and archaeologist to detriment of the Bible by saying Jerusalem was destroyed and the Israelites returned based on a date given by historians and secular history grin grin grin. You extend the support in using it to perform mental gymnastics that Jesus returned in 1914 grin grin grin

Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth." John 17:17
So Jehovah's Witnesses is not the truth grin grin grin grin

Praise JEHOVAH!
God's people are SANCTIFIED but means of the TRUTH found in God's word not historical or archeological evidences from the world!
What a load of delusion within the midst of a religious organization whose foundation was based on calculations based on secular history and works of archaeologist grin grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:13pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
That's not the point!

The same historians you don't want to take serious and gaslight into thinking they didn't say anything about Jesus are the ones you rely on for the date 537BC you started counting your 70 years from.

So, if you can't provide just one scholar who supported your 1914 date, then you shouldn't use the same historians date of 537BC since they are Jesus enemies grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Hypocrite!
The guy don't know simply he has rendered the essence of this thread useless grin grin grin grin

The same historians you don't want to take serious and gaslight into thinking they didn't say anything about Jesus are the ones you rely on for the date 537BC you started counting your 70 years from.
MaxInDHouse don't understand the above grin grin grin

So, if you can't provide just one scholar who supported your 1914 date, then you shouldn't use the same historians date of 537BC since they are Jesus enemies
1914 don't have foundation in the Bible how they want to discover non existent thing in the first place grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:13pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
But watchtower agreed with them!
OK Watchtower agree but not with their dates shey?
I have heard you! cheesy
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:15pm On Jun 15, 2024
achorladey:
So Jehovah's Witnesses is not the truth
Some said truth is relative nah!

So you can determine your own truth it's not by force o! cheesy
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:16pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
This thing is really hitting you hard that you have to mentioned my moniker twice!

You already quoted my post which means you're referencing me, so why must you be spamming my mention within the same post again?



YES!



YES!



YES!



YES!



YES! 70 YEARS IN CAPTIVITY



I've answered!

So who did I shame, Jws or God?

Now, your turn to answer my question.

Do you agree with the archeological evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC?
They want to put the blame of their lies and manipulations on Jehovah’s head grin grin grin

How will some reason up to the extent of saying. He wants to shame God grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 5:26pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
OK Watchtower agree but not with their dates shey?
I have heard you! cheesy
You're too dull!

I said watchtower agreed with THEM!

what will watchtower agreed with if not their DATE?

In fact, watchtower was even mocking the Christians who disagree with the age of the earth as Billion years.

See how you just exposed your lying organization.

Which means the Christians who are defending Bible and God that earth is Young and not BILLION YEARS are correct.

You'll know the truth and the truth will continue to make your BP rise the more!
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:28pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Some said truth is relative nah!

So you can determine your own truth it's not by force o! cheesy
What did the Bible you carry say about the truth? What some said is not the main point? grin grin grin

MaxInDHouse said Jesus began ruling in 1914. This is not a truth that is found the Bible. Do you agree?

What some say about it is not the issue here grin grin grin

So you can determine your own truth it's not by force o!
TRINITY is the the truth of other Christian denominations. I know you agree it's not by force to accept it ooo. I will remind you grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:29pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
You're too dull!

I said watchtower agreed with THEM!

what will watchtower agreed with if not their DATE?

In fact, watchtower was even mocking the Christians who disagree with the age of the earth as Billion years.

See how you just exposed your lying organization.

Which means the Christians who are defending Bible and God that earth is Young and not BILLION YEARS are correct.

You'll know the truth and the truth will continue to make your BP rise the more!
He simply don't know how this thread really expose how he is only interested in defending lies and manipulations grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 5:37pm On Jun 15, 2024
achorladey:
He simply don't know how this thread really expose how he is only interested in defending lies and manipulations grin grin grin
And the funny thing is he didn't even know watchtower position on something like DATING!

Very ignoramus person that always pride in his ignorance.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:41pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
And the funny thing is he didn't even know watchtower position on something like DATING!

Very ignoramus person that always pride in his ignorance.
Pride in peddling lies and manipulations with no questions asked.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Emusan(m): 5:47pm On Jun 15, 2024
achorladey:
Pride in peddling lies and manipulations with no questions asked.
To provide just a single scholar who supported 607BC as the date of Jerusalem destruction.

He began to spew rubbish to deviate from the main topic.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 5:56pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
To provide just a single scholar who supported 607BC as the date of Jerusalem destruction.

He began to spew rubbish to deviate from the main topic.
he will soon get to the stage where he will ask us to go and create our own thread about it just to get us out of this thread. They don't others to accept secular history and that same secular history is what he is using as evidence that Jesus began ruling in 1914. Loooool!
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:38pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
I said watchtower agreed with THEM!
what will watchtower agreed with if not their DATE?
So if you're sure that Watchtower agree with your historians on DATE then how come Watchtower insisted on 607 B.C.E against your historian's 587 B.C.E nah? cheesy
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:42pm On Jun 15, 2024
achorladey:
What did the Bible you carry say about the truth? What some said is not the main point?
Good!
If you're of the opinion that truth isn't relative then which of the over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're doing what one man taught his disciples is the truth? smiley
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 7:32pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Good!
If you're of the opinion that truth isn't relative then which of the over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're doing what one man taught his disciples is the truth? smiley
You are back to starting point again. Merry go round na your mode of operation. Read the bold again then go back to my previous post to see my response.

The issue is not about the truth being relative or not. What did the Bible you carry from house to house tell you about the truth? Is the Bible running away from you now or you are the one running away from Bible? grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 7:36pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So if you're sure that Watchtower agree with your historians on DATE then how come Watchtower insisted on 607 B.C.E against your historian's 587 B.C.E nah? cheesy
The reason you are yet to bring evidence to defend 607 BCE since you know Watchtower agreed with historians. grin grin grin

He has hammered it repeatedly that historians don't support 607 BCE. You should bring evidence since you know Watchtower support historians that 607 was the year Jerusalem was destroyed. You are asking him to do the work you are expected to do. grin grin grin grin

That is the basis of your Jesus began ruling in 1914 grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:23pm On Jun 15, 2024
achorladey:
You are back to starting point again. Merry go round na your mode of operation. Read the bold again then go back to my previous post to see my response.The issue is not about the truth being relative or not. What did the Bible you carry from house to house tell you about the truth? Is the Bible running away from you now or you are the one running away from Bible? grin grin grin
Only one out of all these religions is following Jesus so if you're not interested in knowing that single one then there's no need arguing with you your stand is that truth is relative! wink
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 8:40pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Only one out of all these religions is following Jesus so if you're not interested in knowing that single one then there's no need arguing with you your stand is that truth is relative! wink
grin grin grin grin grin

Only one out of all these religions is following Jesus
MaxInDHouse relative truth not supported by the Bible he carries grin grin grin grin

so if you're not interested in knowing that single one then there's no need arguing with you
Since your relative truth have been shown not to be relative truth but outright LIES AND MANIPULATIONS from your brains grin grin grin

your stand is that truth is relative! ;
Evidence that you are a liar and manipulator. You cannot bring any of my post on this discussion so far where I said truth is relative grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:54pm On Jun 15, 2024
achorladey:
You cannot bring any of my post on this discussion so far where I said truth is relative
If you don't know the only group having the truth out of tens of thousands of religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians then i have nothing to discuss with you further i'm not here for fruitless arguments.

Thanks for your contribution! wink
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by Aemmyjah(m): 9:03pm On Jun 15, 2024
Emusan:
This thing is really hitting you hard that you have to mentioned my moniker twice!

You already quoted my post which means you're referencing me, so why must you be spamming my mention within the same post again?



YES!



YES!



YES!



YES!



YES! 70 YEARS IN CAPTIVITY



I've answered!

So who did I shame, Jws or God?

Now, your turn to answer my question.

Do you agree with the archeological evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC?
Agreeing with 587bce would mean that Jehovah was lying about the Jews spending 70 years in captivity
Mr atheist
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 9:42pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If you don't know the only group having the truth out of tens of thousands of religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians then i have nothing to discuss with you further i'm not here for fruitless arguments.

Thanks for your contribution! wink
grin grin grin grin grin

i'm not here for fruitless arguments
To you it becomes fruitless arguments since your lies and manipulations of your religious organization being the only one doing God's will was exposed as not supported from the Bible grin grin grin

Thanks for your contribution!
You should for the fact that

1. you admit that your date of 1914 beliefs about Jesus ruling is not supported in the scripture and it is a lie and manipulations of the scripture and secular history grin grin grin

2. Your religious organization saying they are chosen by God is also a lie since it's foundation built upon 1914 are lies.
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:48pm On Jun 15, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Agreeing with 587bce would mean that Jehovah was lying about the Jews spending 70 years in captivity. Mr atheist
He thought criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses will bring him joy but whenever we prove to him that it's either standing with Jehovah's Witnesses or you welcome ATHEISM he becomes so angry that he resort to abusive speeches.
Please don't allow him to pull you into the mud with him at least he has seen that all those that left Jehovah's Witnesses are now atheists they can't find anywhere else to stay and continue with faith in Christ Jesus! wink
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey:
Aemmyjah:
Agreeing with 587bce would mean that Jehovah was lying about the Jews spending 70 years in captivity
Mr atheist
E go make people they reason well oooo. Calling him atheist won't cover up your lies and manipulations. grin grin grin

Agreeing with 587bce would mean that Jehovah was lying
Jehovah is not the one that says 607 BCE is the year when Jerusalem was destroyed in the first place. When you say 587 BCE means Jehovah is lying it equally means 607 BCE are lies and using it to propagate 1914 are equally lies since nowhere Jehovah gave a date through his prophets about the destruction of Jerusalem and the start of Jesus rule. cheesy grin grin


The question given to you was.....

Do you agree with the archeological evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC?
You ran into Jehovah is a liar. The question was not directed to Jehovah. It was directed to you. The date won't change what Isaiah, Jeremiah or any other prophet wrote regarding the years of exile. You will join your fellow brother running helter-skelter on his thread since his lies and manipulations got exposed about the main topic. grin grin grin
Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by achorladey: 10:00pm On Jun 15, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
He thought criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses will bring him joy but whenever we prove to him that it's either standing with Jehovah's Witnesses or you welcome ATHEISM he becomes so angry that he resort to abusive speeches.
Please don't allow him to pull you into the mud with him at least he has seen that all those that left Jehovah's Witnesses are now atheists they can't find anywhere else to stay and continue with faith in Christ Jesus! wink
This one has started looking for sympathy and consolation grin grin grin grin

He thought criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses will bring him joy
We know the joy Emusan has is shared by MaxInDHouse grin grin grin

but whenever we prove to him that it's either standing with Jehovah's Witnesses or you welcome ATHEISM he becomes so angry that he resort to abusive speeches.
Projecting your failures on him. Your fellow Jehovah's Witness called him an atheist over a simple question grin grin grin

Please don't allow him to pull you into the mud with him at least he has seen that all those that left Jehovah's Witnesses are now atheists
Lies and manipulations from your brains

can't find anywhere else to stay and continue with faith in Christ Jesus!
Lies and manipulations from the brains of MaxInDHouse. Having faith in Jesus does not originate with a religious organization Jesus had to buy from Russell grin grin grin
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