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Pabloescobar1:
You are allowed to promote Asia and its culture but only very few Nigerians or any other African make it legitimately in Asia. I have lived in Asia for most of my Adult life and have visited Vietnam multiple times but not in a million years is it better than any western country in terms of opportunity. It's a personal choice to live in Asia but don't get it twisted there are better countries for those who don't have the luxury of spending money without reasonable income in a country where you stick out like a thumb. Asian countries are barely stepping stones to better countries for those who know.

Better countries like??

9jaWarrior:
Better countries like??

You know like the ones that offer better work opportunities than English teaching. And easier to adapt to. But eh what do I know?

I hope no one takes this scammer seriously.

There's nothing in east and south Asia waiting for you except racism and poverty.

West Asia is a toilet, but if (and only if) you can somehow secure a job working for one of the US military contractors on a base, I suppose that's worth it. And that's only because (assuming everything is absolutely legit) you have the protection and oversight of US military. In addition to that, you make high pay because you're in the middle of nowhere.

but going through many African and Nigerian YouTuber's videos on YouTube confirms most of what the op has said EXCEPT THE PART OF GETTING A JOB IN VIETNAM. but aside from that it seems every expat both black and white on YouTube agrees that Vietnam is a very cheap an wonderful place to visit for vacation, business, and holiday.

Cousin9999:
I hope no one takes this scammer seriously.

There's nothing in east and south Asia waiting for you except racism and poverty.

West Asia is a toilet, but if (and only if) you can somehow secure a job working for one of the US military contractors on a base, I suppose that's worth it. And that's only because (assuming everything is absolutely legit) you have the protection and oversight of US military. In addition to that, you make high pay because you're in the middle of nowhere.

Your ignorance is quite disturbing. Dumb people always generalize and give themselves reasons why something will never work. However, smart people often make research and can see opportunities where others see nothing.

You don’t even know basic geography and neither do you understand how economies work, but you sit your a*** in your room and conclude on your ignorance. Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Vietnam, China and Taiwan are all located in East Asia.

Vietnam today, is competing with China in the production of so many consumer goods and lots of companies are moving their manufacturing plants to the country. Yet you believe it won’t improve their standard of living?

You think Vietnam of today is the same Vietnam of poor straw-hat wearing rice farmers? Wake up dude and smell the coffee!

I’m personally earning over a thousand dollars as a beginner teacher, with free accommodation and free utilities. I have unlimited internet access, and other facilities at zero cost!

You may argue that $1000+ salary is not big, but for a country with a low cost of living, I could end up saving more than the average person living in the West.

Be wise!

Cousin9999:
I hope no one takes this scammer seriously.

There's nothing in east and south Asia waiting for you except racism and poverty.

West Asia is a toilet, but if (and only if) you can somehow secure a job working for one of the US military contractors on a base, I suppose that's worth it. And that's only because (assuming everything is absolutely legit) you have the protection and oversight of US military. In addition to that, you make high pay because you're in the middle of nowhere.

For those that genuinely want to teach in Vietnam and have the passion and necessary qualifications, you can ask your questions here or send me mails.

With the little time I have spent in this country, I’ve learnt how to overcome certain challenges Africans, particularly Nigerians often face, and I can share my ideas with you freely.

I only hope that only premium and qualified teachers from Nigeria come to Vietnam, so that the positive reputation will rub off on others carrying the green passport. I’m glad that the places I have had dealings with in this country all had positive things to say about me. And I was really intentional about leaving a good impression because of the bad reputation we already have.

The worst mistake anyone can do is to pay an agent millions of naira for a visa that costs less than $100 and then jump into the next flight to Vietnam.

1. There are no reasonable jobs for foreigners here, except teaching!

2. To teach in Vietnam and succeed, there are certain qualifications and pathways you MUST follow!

3. You can make it BIG in Vietnam as a teacher if you are smart to see the bigger picture.

I bet this OP is a Scammer.

Here is the scam: He is trying to lure the gullible to contact him for the training school he supposedly used, he will charge you $2000 🤣🤣🤣

2) If the OP is truly trying to help people or really knows what he is talking about, he would have only suggested people to ask questions here not to suggested ti either send him a mail too. "Typical scamming antics... Take the conversation private"

3) You could have provided the the training school you are on about for clarity sake and let anyone interested do his or her research about the school. Since most people called you scammer which you are trying so hard to prove otherwise, then why withhold informations?

4) Proof me wrong and redeem yourself since you had already listed the requirements to teach as an ESL teacher in Vietnam, Post the training school you are on about that charges $2000 or is are you trying not to help people has you said? Let people verify the school online because the good thing about all Vietnamese recruiters is.... They are super active on Facebook. Both the good ones and the bad ones.

I am concerned about this half information you are in about because there is a great number of Nigerians stranded here based on informations like yours provided by disguised agents...


Sir! If truly you are only trying to help people as you said.... Post the name of the training school you are trying to lure your supposed mugu since you are not an agent... Sebi you dey try help, then help people please... Don't ask them to pay in DM.


Noted: to all the supposed Mugu! I know say we Nigerians get Coconut head, we no dey listen.... If you really want to come to Vietnam, here are the things you need, I will list them below.... You do not need to pay anyone.

1) Degree certificate
2) TESOL/TEFL certification
3) EFset C1/C2 certification is good.
4) Police clearance certificate
5) Got to Ministry of Education to notarize your degree, TEFL C2 certification.
6)Ministry of Foreign Affairs to get thosw legalized too
7)Finally! Get them legalized at the Vietnamese Embassy.


These are all DIY thing, do not pay anyone for all this.

Noted! If an agent tell you to travel to Vietnam with an E-Visa Tourist, na thief him be o... They will tell you when you get to Vietnam, they will change it to work visa, TRC and work permit. Don't believe, you can only travel to work in Vietnam via a Business visa... Any other thing, na lie. Make una shine una eyes

Pls no DM.... Always ask your questions on here and I will be very happy to help.

The olodo above me is so DUMB yet he thinks he is making sense. He is probably an agent who is angry because I said people should do it themselves and not use agents like him that charge 2.5 million for a visa that is less than $100.

I said people should ask questions here in this thread or send me a mail if they want. Is that not two options available for them?

The scammer is busy calling others scammers as a reverse psychology.

DUMB olodos like him are always confused and they never make any headway in life.

If this Mumu that is calling his father scammer is a bit smart, he could have played along and send me dm to see if I will ask him for money or anything of such. But no, his little brain does not have the capacity to reason sensibly.

I don’t owe you or anyone anything, I have never collected money or requested for money from anyone. If I have ever done that, let the person quote me here.

If you continue like this, you will not achieve anything in life.

Get a life!

NaijaVietnamese:
The olodo above me is so DUMB yet he thinks he is making sense. He is probably an agent who is angry because I said people should do it themselves and not use agents like him that charge 2.5 million for a visa that is less than $100.

I said people should ask questions here in this thread or send me a mail if they want. Is that not two options available for them?

The scammer is busy calling others scammers as a reverse psychology.

DUMB olodos like him are always confused and they never make any headway in life.

E pain am... Make nobody DM anybody for information. Ask and you shall receive, even bible talk am. It's all free. No pay anyone shishi.

If truly you are willing to help, why ask for DM too? You could have asked everyone to ask on here.

You want try recoup the money wey you take enter Vietnam, person wey even talk himself say him never get work stol dey do training want scam people.

Knowledge is free, share only here... Desist from scamming antics.

Noted: No DM things to anybody.

NaijaVietnamese:
If this Mumu that is calling his father scammer is a bit smart, he could have played along and send me dm to see if I will ask him for money or anything of such. But no, his little brain does not have the capacity to reason sensibly.

I don’t owe you or anyone anything, I have never collected money or requested for money from anyone. If I have ever done that, let the person quote me here.

If you continue like this, you will not achieve anything in life.

Get a life!

bro...why not ignore and let everyone sort themselves out..

AbnormaAssHole:
E pain am... Make nobody DM anybody for information. Ask and you shall receive, even bible talk am. It's all free. No pay anyone shishi.

If truly you are willing to help, why ask for DM too? You could have asked everyone to ask on here.

You want try recoup the money wey you take enter Vietnam, person wey even talk himself say him never get work stol dey do training want scam people.

Knowledge is free, share only here... Desist from scamming antics.

Noted: No DM things to anybody.

Lol, na work Dey pursue me. I just finished an impromptu adult class. The school I’m teaching are so excited with my work rate that they keep adding more hours and more pay to me.

Teaching jobs are very scarce only for those who didn’t do the right things.

Mind you, I rejected my first job offer after flying two hours to Hanoi only to see a contract terms that didn’t make sense to me. It didn’t take up to 5 days before the training center got another job for me (my present employer). Go to Facebook and see how Nigerian teachers are frustrated in Vietnam because they can’t find teaching job. Some of them paid agents 2.5 million to agents only to get here and become stranded. No money and no job.

I’m not begging anyone to send me dm.

In life it’s always good to the right things.

captainking:
bro...why not ignore and let everyone sort themselves out..

That guy is so irritating and I wonder if he is okay.

NaijaVietnamese:
That guy is so irritating and I wonder if he is okay.

You are a teacher, so you should know that he's not alright.
My own interest is the business aspect. I will like to know the goods that I can import from Vietnam. Please write more about business opportunities because some of us don't have the patience to teach students. I prefer trading.

ZaRuleOfLaw:
You are a teacher, so you should know that he's not alright.
My own interest is the business aspect. I will like to know the goods that I can import from Vietnam. Please write more about business opportunities because some of us don't have the patience to teach students. I prefer trading.

My brother, sometimes it’s hard to overlook idiocy.

Asia is generally considered to be the most lucrative region to work as ESL teacher.

In Asia, China, South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan are seen as the best places to teach, in terms of earning potentials. However, Vietnam is actually the best place for those that can see the bigger picture.

However, Vietnam can also be a nightmare for anyone that doesn’t plan well before going there. It’s a country that can make or mar anyone. So, being aware of the requirements and following due process can make all the difference.

NaijaVietnamese:
Your ignorance is quite disturbing. Dumb people always generalize and give themselves reasons why something will never work. However, smart people often make research and can see opportunities where others see nothing...

This person is a scammer. If you listen to people like this, you'll end up in a racist, backwards country with no visa, no job, and possibly in prison.

Another thing about these Asian countries is that they're full of organized crime. Organized crime basically runs a lot of their countries and people are terrified of them. People talk about human trafficking, but they also have a whole organ trafficking industry. The last thing you want to do is put yourself in a situation where you're vulnerable, with no protections, no options, and surrounded by these sick racists.

Also, many people foolish enough to go to these countries simply because they see skyscrapers end up committing crimes to survive. In the US, maybe you get deported, or you go to prison. In Asian countries, they execute.

Some Asian countries only LOOK like west Europe and North America. They are NOT the same. Don't waste your time, money, or effort. Frankly, even if you illegally go to west Europe/North America, you can still survive and hustle your way to something. You're not doing that in Asia.

Your ignorance is undiluted. Stop mistaking your father who is a scammer for me. People like you never make it in life because you have a tunnel vision about issues and never look at the bigger picture.

Look at him talking boldly about something he has absolutely no knowledge about. Where I am living, the locals treat me like I’m royalty. I have never experienced racism, not even once. A place where people will, I mean total strangers on the street will see you and shout hello while smiling and waving at you. Some will beg to snap pictures with you. Some will leave what they’re doing just to show directions. A place where as a Black person, you’re working as an expert and earning far above what the locals who are doing same thing with you are earning and they accept it without hating.

How could skyscrapers mean that a place is developed or great? Are there no skyscrapers in Lagos and Abuja? Are there no skyscrapers in many African countries?

You’re really a deluded dunce with no capacity to think objectively. I had a chance to travel to US with a tourist visa and overstay in 2017. I passed it off because the idea of living in a place for donkey years without the chance of traveling out is a no no for me. Why would anyone even travel illegally and expect to live a good life? I would rather work 80 to 100 hours a month doing a professional job like teaching than work as a cleaner in UK. People earn from 11 dollars per hour in Vietnam with free accommodation, free utilities, free transportation and very low cost of living. Can you enjoy that in the more advanced countries? Teachers have lots of time to do other things if they want despite working 80 to 100 dollars monthly. There are other opportunities available in places like China and Vietnam which you can’t get in Europe as an immigrant there. It’s not everything I will say online.

Before I traveled, I also heard dumb stories like yours from ignorant folks. But I decided to make my own research and consider several pros and cons. Today, I’m glad I took that decision. I wanted to go to Canada until they jacked up the fees & I decided it was not worth it. Someone will pay over 20 million to move to Canada, with no assurance of doing even menial jobs. Some stay for several months without jobs. Even those that manage to get, how long will you work at rates of $13 per hour and 20 hours per week before you will recoup the staggering amount you spent going there. But a smart person can spend about $3500 including flight, accommodation and certificate and get a teaching job within one month of arriving in Vietnam. Those that travel and become stranded are ignorant ones like you who can’t apply common sense. Why are White people abandoning sane Europe to travel to Asia to teach since it doesn’t make sense, according to you?

Your type will rather remain in your father’s house at age 40 and still be eating “mama thank you” instead of going out of your comfort zone like a man and make something out of your life.

Cousin9999:
This person is a scammer. If you listen to people like this, you'll end up in a racist, backwards country with no visa, no job, and possibly in prison.

Another thing about these Asian countries is that they're full of organized crime. Organized crime basically runs a lot of their countries and people are terrified of them. People talk about human trafficking, but they also have a whole organ trafficking industry. The last thing you want to do is put yourself in a situation where you're vulnerable, with no protections, no options, and surrounded by these sick racists.

Also, many people foolish enough to go to these countries simply because they see skyscrapers end up committing crimes to survive. In the US, maybe you get deported, or you go to prison. In Asian countries, they execute.

Some Asian countries only LOOK like west Europe and North America. They are NOT the same. Don't waste your time, money, or effort. Frankly, even if you illegally go to west Europe/North America, you can still survive and hustle your way to something. You're not doing that in Asia.

Life is a choice and whatever we make out of it depends on us.

For every person that traveled and failed because they didn’t do their due diligence, there are others who traveled and succeeded. Stop using your failure to project on others. That you failed doesn’t mean every other person will fail.

Good morning Sir.

Please what will it take to get a Vietnam work visa- cost, duration and process. Thanks.

NaijaVietnamese:
Look at him talking boldly about something he has absolutely no knowledge about. Where I am living, the locals treat me like I’m royalty. I have never experienced racism, not even once.

You're either lying or don't possess the reasoning skills, education, and self-respect to understand and admit it's happened.

A place where people will, I mean total strangers on the street will see you and shout hello while smiling and waving at you.

It's unfortunate that a grown man such as yourself (1) thinks that's rare, and (2) is impressed.

Some will beg to snap pictures with you.

This is an example of the backwardness and racism of the country. These aren't actions of admiration. I could say more, but it's not necessary.

Some will leave what they’re doing just to show directions.

Again, no grown man, especially one that's traveled, should be impressed by this.

A place where as a Black person, you’re working as an expert and earning far above what the locals who are doing same thing with you are earning and they accept it without hating.

Unless you're a senior professional or middle management or higher working for a foreign firm there, it's not accurate to describe your position or status in this way. You "teach" English in Asia in for-profit "schools." No one who does that is considered an expert in their field unless they're doing so at a university. They also aren't that respected outside of general cultural respect that is given to any/all who have the title of teacher. If they treat you well, it's only because that is the standard way they treat teachers in that region.

How could skyscrapers mean that a place is developed or great? Are there no skyscrapers in Lagos and Abuja? Are there no skyscrapers in many African countries?

It's unfortunate that you're both a teacher and a teacher of English, and you did not understand my statement.

You’re really a deluded dunce with no capacity to think objectively. I had a chance to travel to US with a tourist visa and overstay in 2017. I passed it off because the idea of living in a place for donkey years without the chance of traveling out is a no no for me. Why would anyone even travel illegally and expect to live a good life?

Let me explain the statement to you, English teacher, since you're having trouble. My statement did not encourage overstaying or being an illegal. I was making the point that the social-economic-cultural gap is so wide between the entire Asian region and US/Canada/etc that even someone sneaking across the border has a better shot at a good life than anyone setting foot in Asia.

I would rather work 80 to 100 hours a month doing a professional job like teaching than work as a cleaner in UK.

It's a white collar job, but teaching English (in for-profit shops) there is hardly a profession. In many places, they'll hire anyone that looks white regardless of their English language skill or qualifications. In places where they can't afford to be picky, they'll hire just about anyone, qualified or not.

People earn from 11 dollars per hour in Vietnam with free accommodation, free utilities, free transportation and very low cost of living.

Many scammers and scammer companies will try to sell foreigners (even Americans) on these things. And if they even get a fraction of that, it's very substandard.

Can you enjoy that in the more advanced countries?

In advanced countries, you can enjoy a high standard of living with the ability to build and choose the life you actually want. Vietnam is not such a place.

Teachers have lots of time to do other things if they want despite working 80 to 100 dollars monthly. There are other opportunities available in places like China and Vietnam which you can’t get in Europe as an immigrant there. It’s not everything I will say online.

The UK recently expanded countries that it wants to tap for teachers. I made a thread on this. America is also facing teacher shortages, and it really doesn't take that much to qualify. Anyone trying to claim that teaching anywhere in Asia, especially English, is better than those countries is lying.

Also, US (public) teachers work 180 days a year, but basically get a decent full year salary. They can get paid very well working in private schools and prep schools. They also get every national holiday and holiday weeks off. They have a strong union. And given that they're truly qualified, they can tutor and do private instruction for high pay, and easily spend their summer teaching abroad in real teaching roles making real money, and living in desirable places, e.g. Spain.

But a smart person can spend about $3500 including flight, accommodation and certificate and get a teaching job within one month of arriving in Vietnam. Those that travel and become stranded are ignorant ones like you who can’t apply common sense.

Let's pretend this is true (and it's not). The preferred teacher there fits a certain profile: female, caucasian, specific training in education, and experienced. This is so strong of a preference that Asians born in English-speaking countries have trouble getting hired. The only reason any place hires outside of this profile is because no one wants to teach there. The second that changes, those opportunities disappear for anyone who doesn't fit that profile. No sensible person will bet on that flimsy "opportunity."

Furthermore, because this isn't a real industry and profession, it's full of scamming and abuse. These often aren't real schools. They're just random shops. Real schools don't hire random people. These are body shops. Another strong preference they have is for filipino women. Why? Because they can get away with abusing them in various ways. The potential for scamming and abuse is greater for those that don't come from US/Canada/etc. And even people from America have found themselves basically kidnapped in a remote village after accepting a "teaching" job.

Why are White people abandoning sane Europe to travel to Asia to teach since it doesn’t make sense, according to you?

LOL This is why you see whites teaching there:
-They can't find a job where they are, and they heard anyone with a white face (it's true) gets hired there. These people plan to do this for a few years, and go home to see how they can utilize the experience. They don't plan on staying.
-They're an ex-convict that can't get a decent job in their own country, and again they heard being white gets you a job in a low COL country.
-They want to abuse minors.
-They retired very poor, and this is going to save them from suffering.
-They're fresh out of college, want to travel, and want to get some valuable experience. They'll either go from country to country, or stay in one for no longer than a year.
-They're obsessed with Asian women and animation.
-They're training as or have completed studies in being a foreign language professional, e.g. government workers. It's an inexpensive way to get immersion and practice.

Also, let's imagine that someone has a "teaching" position, and then one day they find themselves unemployed. It's Vietnam, not America. They're racist af and they do not have the economy or social safety net of west Europe or something. The racism you face there is different from anything you'll encounter in west Europe or North America. These people are basically a naked remote tribe holding a cell phone. And if they even have laws against racism, it's only paper. It means nothing. This is not a place for any sensible black man/woman to go. Also, your visa is tied to your teaching job. If you're unemployed, your visa is done. Let's say you have permanent residence. Cool. But you're still unemployed.

@naijavietnamese....

I believe you created this thread for a reason...

Do not allow yourself to be intimidated as long as your intentions are genuine.

Keep posting your experiences, steps those interested can take, major pitfalls on pre-arrival, arrival and post arrival.


No knowledge is a waste.


Just like you said,, you want to represent well in Vietnam to change the narrative they have about us as Nigerians. Keep it up. All the best

I couldn’t continue reading that trash you wrote after a few paragraphs because what’s the point enlightening someone like you, who is rigidly dumb.

That you faced racism and discrimination doesn’t mean every other person must experience it. You probably have an unlikable personality and I can feel your inferiority complex from your posts. You sound like someone who go about with a defeatist mindset that the world is against him.

You don’t need to have the IQ of Einstein to know when you’re being discriminated upon or when you’re valued. Nigerians also discriminate against each other based on tribalism yet it’s not every Nigerian that has experienced it.

I honestly hope you don’t raise children with this warped thought process you have because it will be a pity.

Cousin9999:
You're either lying or don't possess the reasoning skills, education, and self-respect to understand and admit it's happened.



It's unfortunate that a grown man such as yourself (1) thinks that's rare, and (2) is impressed.



This is an example of the backwardness and racism of the country. These aren't actions of admiration. I could say more, but it's not necessary.



Again, no grown man, especially one that's traveled, should be impressed by this.



Unless you're a senior professional or middle management or higher working for a foreign firm there, it's not accurate to describe your position or status in this way. You "teach" English in Asia in for-profit "schools." No one who does that is considered an expert in their field unless they're doing so at a university. They also aren't that respected outside of general cultural respect that is given to any/all who have the title of teacher. If they treat you well, it's only because that is the standard way they treat teachers in that region.



It's unfortunate that you're both a teacher and a teacher of English, and you did not understand my statement.



Let me explain the statement to you, English teacher, since you're having trouble. My statement did not encourage overstaying or being an illegal. I was making the point that the social-economic-cultural gap is so wide between the entire Asian region and US/Canada/etc that even someone sneaking across the border has a better shot at a good life than anyone setting foot in Asia.



It's a white collar job, but teaching English (in for-profit shops) there is hardly a profession. In many places, they'll hire anyone that looks white regardless of their English language skill or qualifications. In places where they can't afford to be picky, they'll hire just about anyone, qualified or not.



Many scammers and scammer companies will try to sell foreigners (even Americans) on these things. And if they even get a fraction of that, it's very substandard.



In advanced countries, you can enjoy a high standard of living with the ability to build and choose the life you actually want. Vietnam is not such a place.



The UK recently expanded countries that it wants to tap for teachers. I made a thread on this. America is also facing teacher shortages, and it really doesn't take that much to qualify. Anyone trying to claim that teaching anywhere in Asia, especially English, is better than those countries is lying.

Also, US (public) teachers work 180 days a year, but basically get a decent full year salary. They can get paid very well working in private schools and prep schools. They also get every national holiday and holiday weeks off. They have a strong union. And given that they're truly qualified, they can tutor and do private instruction for high pay, and easily spend their summer teaching abroad in real teaching roles making real money, and living in desirable places, e.g. Spain.



Let's pretend this is true (and it's not). The preferred teacher there fits a certain profile: female, caucasian, specific training in education, and experienced. This is so strong of a preference that Asians born in English-speaking countries have trouble getting hired. The only reason any place hires outside of this profile is because no one wants to teach there. The second that changes, those opportunities disappear for anyone who doesn't fit that profile. No sensible person will bet on that flimsy "opportunity."

Furthermore, because this isn't a real industry and profession, it's full of scamming and abuse. These often aren't real schools. They're just random shops. Real schools don't hire random people. These are body shops. Another strong preference they have is for filipino women. Why? Because they can get away with abusing them in various ways. The potential for scamming and abuse is greater for those that don't come from US/Canada/etc. And even people from America have found themselves basically kidnapped in a remote village after accepting a "teaching" job.



LOL This is why you see whites teaching there:
-They can't find a job where they are, and they heard anyone with a white face (it's true) gets hired there. These people plan to do this for a few years, and go home to see how they can utilize the experience. They don't plan on staying.
-They're an ex-convict that can't get a decent job in their own country, and again they heard being white gets you a job in a low COL country.
-They want to abuse minors.
-They retired very poor, and this is going to save them from suffering.
-They're fresh out of college, want to travel, and want to get some valuable experience. They'll either go from country to country, or stay in one for no longer than a year.
-They're obsessed with Asian women and animation.
-They're training as or have completed studies in being a foreign language professional, e.g. government workers. It's an inexpensive way to get immersion and practice.