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Wilgrea7:
I've read the Bible.. I'm yet to see any evidence of the god you're describing in there.

I'm not saying your god does not exist.. but so far, I'm yet to see any tangible evidence that suggests it does.

Wilgrea7:
1. Using the bible as proof of the god of the bible is like using Spiderman books as proof of Spiderman. It's circular reasoning.

2. You're basically trying to address the question of why the world exists.. but that's merely an offshoot of the question, why there's something rather than nothing.. and a god does not answer that question

JessicaRabbit:
I take it you've never heard of Nostradamus?

Negroid001:
Your God is fictional, liks Zeus.

Negroid001:
I don't argue with people that believe their religion is supreme.

StillDtruth:
Inferior people never like to.argue with superior people and cannot which is why you are trying to bring her down to your level!

Negroid001:
Ok. Keep to your God oo. Your life your delusion.

StillDtruth:
Same you should have done with your anti Godism and delusion, yet here you are crying out your delusuon and wish for no God!

Lessonteacher:
the bible says, every house is constructed by someone but the one who constructed everything is God.
what do you have to say about that?

MightySparrow:
What about him, he was a Jew also. However, if he ever saw anything, there are nothing new in his prophecies that the Bible has not talked about one way or the other.

However, he knew nothing about the creation of the world and those things that happened before his birth. How do you suppose Moses knew the story of creation?

JessicaRabbit:
Cultures around the world have creation myths. The Egyptians had a cosmic cow birthing the sun god Ra. The Babylonians had Marduk slaying a sea monster to create the earth. Creation stories are not an exclusive element of Christianity. Besides, if the Bible is the ultimate authority on history, then why does it contradict verifiable facts? The Bible might be a fascinating collection of stories, but when it comes to demonstrably true events, it drastically falls short. Unless, of course, you believe the world is flat and the sun revolves around it.

StillDtruth:
She said "a house is constructed by someone" do you not see a house?

Get your head right!

StillDtruth:
You do not see that all over the world we have "holy day" changed to holiday?

Or the leap year only occurs in nigeria alone?

Or did you not see Isreal return to their place in 1947?

Or did you not see the red moon?

Guy, rest, God does not need you.

DevilsEqual:
And it's dumbdr to think the earth and our multiverse came from nothingness

I'd be foolish to think a complex solar system came into being without the planning of one grand architect


It's like saying every one of science inventions were never done by anyone and just appear from nowhere

Imagine seeing a phone on the ground or even a robot, then start assuming that no one made it that way

MightySparrow:
Have you considered the prophecies of Daniel and others like Isaiah, Obadiah,etc about the world's events, even some writings of Moses written about 4,000 years ago and their accuracy?
It can only take a person who is in charge to write history in advance.

Wilgrea7:
you're still very good at responding without adding any actual value to the conversation. Welldone.

Wilgrea7:
I'm sorry... but your evidence for a god is leap holiday coming from "holy day", and red moons and leap years?

Nah... at this point you have to be trolling or something.

Wilgrea7:
Wrong. Alleged prophecies have existed all throughout history. And not just among the jews.

A prophecy is basically a prediction of what will happen in the future. There's often a sort of reasoning behind it. Sometimes things happen as we predict, sometimes things don't.

Also, I'm doubt that the compilers of any religious text would be keen on adding in "prophecies" that didn't come to pass. Unless of course it was a prophecy about something that hasn't happened yet. For example the coming of christ, which was supposed to happen before some of the people standing with him died. Spoiler alert.. it didn't happen.

Take a look at the world around you. There are TONS of prophecies being made every year. Both by religious figures from different sects, and regular people. Some things happen.. and some don't. That's the nature of prediction. It's nothing special, and certainly isn't anything "divine".

On a side note. The whole idea of prophecies has implications about the future and freewill that I'm not very sure people from your religion would agree with.

Wilgrea7:
You probably want to tell me that this alleged god is way beyond human understanding and so on. Now my question to you is, why can't I say the same for the universe?

To reiterate, I'm not saying the universe came from nothing. I don't understand the universe neither do I understand how it came to be or why it's here or why it's the way it is. And I'm honest about it. If you want to claim a god is the answer to all these, then you need to also answer why the said god is here, why he/she/it is the way it is, how it came to be, and so on. And most importantly, with reasonable proof.

The floor is yours I guess.

JessicaRabbit:
Cultures around the world have creation myths. The Egyptians had a cosmic cow birthing the sun god Ra. The Babylonians had Marduk slaying a sea monster to create the earth. Creation stories are not an exclusive element of Christianity. Besides, if the Bible is the ultimate authority on history, then why does it contradict verifiable facts? The Bible might be a fascinating collection of stories, but when it comes to demonstrably true events, it drastically falls short. Unless, of course, you believe the world is flat and the sun revolves around it.

geoworldedu:
The bible is written by human beings. There is another book which also stated that God of the bible was created by another thing. Go and read Book of Truth. That's the name of the book. Should we believe the book because it stated how Jehovah your god was created?

MightySparrow:
The false prophecies you talk about is already prophesied in the Bible that false prophets will arise towards the end time.


Christianity of today interpretes the prophecies of the Bible writers. No one is getting new revelations now. However, in some little way, God still talks to people about their lives and environments using the written word as a cursor.

Wilgrea7:
Christianity of today is not the point. All throughout time, we've had people make predictions and prophecies about the future. Some happened.. some didn't.. regardless of religion. That's my point.

StillDtruth:
I.have always told you, stop setting yourself up for someone to call you stupid for are we all not seeing how the universe is?

And which normal person cares why stars are in the sky or why we walk on our legs and not on our bellies?

And which normal person has not concluded that it is this way because Whoever made it, made it to be that way as He wanted it? After all, your house is as you wanted it to be no matter who you put in it.

Thirdly, even asking "why this or why that" IS GOAL POST SHIFTING! The topic is Proof of God/how the unoverse came to be [/b]and not why this or why that!

[b] Then from time immemorial, no one has been able to come up with any othet reasonable and valid alternative beyond that it is God Who made it.

So, until another valid and contendable answer is given, God Wins, exactly as this 4 stand guilty unless they show that another person commited the crime, because a crime cannot commit itself, exactly how the universe did not make itself

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MightySparrow:
Good, tell us one Bible prophecy that should come to pass but not.

Wilgrea7:
I told you about the prophecy of Jesus' return. He said some people standing there wouldn't taste death until he returned.

I'll modify this post and add the verse when I find it

MightySparrow:
I think I not read that before, can you please quote the place?

Wilgrea7:
Matt 16:28

Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

MightySparrow:
Matt.16.28 - Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Mark.9.1 - And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.

Luke.9.27 - But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.


This was an event recorded by three individuals. They reported according to the perspective each saw it.

This was told the disciples about His nature and a sample of the future things to happen and that the dead saints were available and resurrection is real.. In the next verse in the other reports, what He meant came to pass. While Matthew stopped the chapter with the verse, others continue . Matthew then contacted in the next chapter.



Mark.9.2 - And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

Mark.9.3 - And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
Mark.9.4 - And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
Mark.9.6 - because he did not know what to say, for they were greatly afraid.
Mark.9.7 - And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Mark.9.8 - And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.
Mark.9.9 - And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.
Mark.9.10 - And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.

So, it was a prophecy and a teaching to his special disciples. There are similar things that the disciples never understood until after His ascension.

If you know of any other, let us know.

Wilgrea7:
You've quotes a number of bible verses... None of which excuse the initial failed prophecy.

MightySparrow:
Failed because the interpretation does not fit your expectation? Shey?

Wilgrea7:
No. it failed because it said something will happen, and it did not happen.

You're the one trying to formulate a hidden interpretation to protect some idea of infallibility in your book.

Wilgrea7:
No. it failed because it said something will happen, and it did not happen.

You're the one trying to formulate a hidden interpretation to protect some idea of infallibility in your book.

Negroid001:
Read the bible?
You didn't read my post well.
What church do you attend?