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Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:24pm On Jun 23, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Correct your strawman else there is no point debating a toddler
Hmmmmmmmmmm, but why did you engage a toddler in the first instance? smiley
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 10:25pm On Jun 23, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmm, but why did you engage a toddler in the first instance? smiley
He didn't show his face.
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 10:26pm On Jun 23, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Proof the highlighted or remain a liar
Are you YAHWEH's witnesse or Jehovah's witnesses?
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 10:28pm On Jun 23, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
What about the first century Jewish disciples of Christ who were all obedient to the teachings of the special group called Apostles? Act 2:42 smiley
Are your governing bodies Apostles of Christ?

When were they commissioned?

Islam
Jehovah's witnesses
Olumba Olumba
Mormons

Something that they all have in common is that their scriptures must be interpreted for them by their scholars or special groups of people.
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:29pm On Jun 23, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Are you YAHWEH's witnesse or Jehovah's witnesses?
What is the difference between Yahweh and Jehovah?
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:29pm On Jun 23, 2024
NairaLTQ:
He didn't show his face.
So has he shown it now?
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 10:30pm On Jun 23, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
What is the difference between Yahweh and Jehovah?
Did God call Himself YAHWEH or Jehovah?
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 10:30pm On Jun 23, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So has he shown it now?
By his fruit, he was discovered!
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:33pm On Jun 23, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Are your governing bodies Apostles of Christ?
Do you agree with apostle Paul when he said:

And he gave some as APOSTLES, some as prophets, some as evangelizers, some as shepherds and teachers. Ephesians 4:11

Are some given the office of Apostles among Jesus' disciples? smiley
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:34pm On Jun 23, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Did God call Himself YAHWEH or Jehovah?
My God call Himself JEHOVAH! Exodus 6:3 KJV

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:36pm On Jun 23, 2024
NairaLTQ:
By his fruit, he was discovered!
So you didn't discover this fruit while reading his comment before you engaged him? smiley
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:28am On Jun 24, 2024
There is a reason why the Beroeans went back to do a diligent study on what they heard from the disciples of Christ in the scriptures, all God's servants must have the same line of thought regarding sacred service this will help them to worship in spirit and truth {John 4:24} as if they're just one big family! John 17:22 compare to Zephaniah 3:9
So when the disciples of Christ preached to the Beroeans they need to figure out whether Christianity (movement of Jesus' disciples) is the religion that's of the new covenant God promised according to the scriptures! Jeremiah 31:31-33 compare to Deuteronomy 18:18
This is important because whoever missed the message of the prophet God is sending in the manner of Moses will lose out completely! Deuteronomy 18:19
Jesus Christ confirmed this when he prayed to his father to unite all the servants of God throughout history in the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} even though some have slept in death thousands of years back once they're resurrected it will be easy for their fellow worshipers who knew all the updates to help such ones and the whole earth will be filled with a peace loving global family {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} there will be a lot of richly blessings as God's people inhabiting the earth at that time will all know our God with the same line of thought then no one will need to teach his or her neighbour again about true righteousness! Jeremiah 31:34
So by that time when God declares everlasting life upon all the inhabitants of planet earth {Psalms 37:29 compare to Matthew 5:5} whoever falls sick or dies will be due to sin only and not natural death! Isaiah 65:20; 33:24
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 5:24am On Jun 24, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So you didn't discover this fruit while reading his comment before you engaged him? smiley
Sometimes a wolf puts on sheep skins. He is uncovered
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 5:25am On Jun 24, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
My God call Himself JEHOVAH! Exodus 6:3 KJV

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
No sir.

God called Himself YHWH and not Jehovah in the book of Exodus!
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 5:26am On Jun 24, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Do you agree with apostle Paul when he said:

And he gave some as APOSTLES, some as prophets, some as evangelizers, some as shepherds and teachers. Ephesians 4:11

Are some given the office of Apostles among Jesus' disciples? smiley
But you believe the the gifts have ceased operating so it can't apply to you
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:17am On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Sometimes a wolf puts on sheep skins. He is uncovered
TODDLER!

WOLF!

Please what correlation is between the two? undecided
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:20am On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
No sir.
God called Himself YHWH and not Jehovah in the book of Exodus!
Another enlightenment you need there!
The word GOD wasn't written like that in the original Hebrew manuscript.
Jesus wasn't written like that in the original Hebrew manuscript.
So why do you single out Jehovah when all other names has been transliterated? smiley
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:23am On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
But you believe the the gifts have ceased operating so it can't apply to you
I never told you the office ceased rather it's the supernatural gifts that's only given to the descendants of Jacob and for their benefit alone! Matthew 15:21-28 smiley
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:54am On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Are you YAHWEH's witnesse or Jehovah's witnesses?
There's lands that they are known as Yahweh Witnesses. In English, it is Jehovah
In Yoruba, it is Jehovah
They are mean the same thing write

Do you believe in Jesus or Yeshua?
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:55am On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
You say so!
I asked a direct Yes or No question

Do you worship God sheepishly?
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:02am On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Your governing body is opposed to

Gal 1:8:
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to you other than the one we proclaimed to you, let him be accursed!"


No wonder, they said the covenant name of God is Jehovah rather than YHWH and you swallowed it line , hook and sinker!
Go and read publications in Hebrew or French, it is YHWH you will see there not Jehovah

The GB are not opposed to any part of the scriptures. We're well educated about God, Jesus, the Kingdom which was Jesus main message when he was here on earth. Your so called pastors are the ones that Paul is saying they are accursed with their fake miracles and prosperity message



Like the disciples of the first century, all of us are actively preaching the Gospel of the kingdom as Jesus foretold would happen in the last days

So rest
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:05am On Jun 24, 2024
Aemmyjah:
I asked a direct Yes or No question
Do you worship God sheepishly?
At times i just laugh at their presumptuousness imagine a misinformed churchgoer wanting to use illustrations!

He called someone a TODDLER which literally means myopic and childish, when i asked him how he came to that conclusion he said it's due to the attitude of one he labelled but at the same time he added another label WOLF which means predator in literal sense and both labels is due to the attitude of the same person! huh

Please what correlation is between a MYOPIC one and a PREDATOR? undecided
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:18am On Jun 24, 2024
Aemmyjah:
I asked a direct Yes or No question
Do you worship God sheepishly?
That question will expose him as a rebellious human, David said:
"JEHOVAH is my shepherd" Psalms 23:1
Jesus called his disciples "sheep" John 10:11

If he knows the use of ILLUSTRATION what is the attitude of SHEEP?

Are they not the domestic animals we know that often follow their master with one accord?

Is it not GOATS that has the trait of rebellion as each walks due to it's own initiative?

So if he say "NO" that would mean he is not one of Jesus' sheep and if he say "YES" that means he is stupid for accusing those having the quality he supposed to have. smiley
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:30am On Jun 24, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
At times i just laugh at their presumptuousness imagine a misinformed churchgoer wanting to use illustrations!

He called someone a TODDLER which literally means myopic and childish, when i asked him how he came to that conclusion he said it's due to the attitude of one he labelled but at the same time he added another label WOLF which means predator in literal sense and both labels is due to the attitude of the same person! huh

Please what correlation is between a MYOPIC one and a PREDATOR? undecided
He can the very smart and logical when disputing with atheist and Muslims

But there's people that can tame him
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op):
Aemmyjah:
He can the very smart and logical when disputing with atheist and Muslims
But there's people that can tame him
When iron meet iron one will surely bend!

He can pretend he knows what he's saying in the presence of atheists and Muslims but when he comes near a true disciple of Christ he will see his own emptiness.

I have adviced him several times to focus on the qualities a true religion should have but it's like he doesn't want it what matters to him is arguing to gratify himself so i left him.

Now he wants to engage me thinking it's about accusing the source of my understanding (JW organization) that he will use for his self gratification.

I remain humble under the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses but he's not my match when talking about scriptural understanding any day any time!smiley
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 9:22am On Jun 24, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
TODDLER!

WOLF!

Please what correlation is between the two? undecided
Wolves don't have babies in mind and thought?
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:20am On Jun 24, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
When iron meet iron one will surely bend!

He can pretend he knows what he's saying in the presence of atheists and Muslims but when he comes near a true disciple of Christ he will see his own emptiness.

I have adviced him several times to focus on the qualities a true religion should have but it's like he doesn't want it what matters to him is arguing to gratify himself so i left him.

Now he wants to engage me thinking it's about accusing the source of my understanding (JW organization) that he will use for his self gratification.

I remain humble under the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses but he not my match when talking about scriptural understanding any day any time!smiley
Don't mind him
Even the Jews of old or the Christians did not show independent thinking

The brothers in Galatia shower independent thinking and Paul wrote to them calling them 'O foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you that you did not obey the truth...'
Imagin me what these people would have said if the GB should write same letter to the brothers in Nigeria
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:45am On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Wolves don't have babies in mind and thought?
You said after engaging him you discovered that he is a TODDLER and at the same time you said he is a WOLF.

Is there any correlation between those two creatures? huh
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:48am On Jun 24, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Don't mind him
Even the Jews of old or the Christians did not show independent thinking
The brothers in Galatia shower independent thinking and Paul wrote to them calling them 'O foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you that you did not obey the truth...'
Imagin me what these people would have said if the GB should write same letter to the brothers in Nigeria
Paul has every right to call them FOOLISH because he himself formed that church after preaching and teaching from house to house to gather them. So if they're now having divers thoughts he should question their sanity! undecided
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by NairaLTQ: 1:29pm On Jun 24, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Go and read publications in Hebrew or French, it is YHWH you will see there not Jehovah

The GB are not opposed to any part of the scriptures. We're well educated about God, Jesus, the Kingdom which was Jesus main message when he was here on earth. Your so called pastors are the ones that Paul is saying they are accursed with their fake miracles and prosperity message



Like the disciples of the first century, all of us are actively preaching the Gospel of the kingdom as Jesus foretold would happen in the last days

So rest
Slaves of some old men feigning to know Christ but who can do nothing other than enslaved them.

Take heed that no one Deceive YOU.

But Sons Of perdition will entrust their souls in the hands of wicked impostors who assume to be Apostles of Christ whereas, Christ doesn't know them.

The covenant name of God is YHWH and you make it Jehovah even when the scripture is there for you to see in black and white.

Stupidly you ask me to read the JW publications in Hebrew or French: sorry, you are LOST . Go find Jesus!
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:19pm On Jun 24, 2024
NairaLTQ:
Slaves of some old men feigning to know Christ but who can do nothing other than enslaved them.

Take heed that no one Deceive YOU.

But Sons Of perdition will entrust their souls in the hands of wicked impostors who assume to be Apostles of Christ whereas, Christ doesn't know them.

The covenant name of God is YHWH and you make it Jehovah even when the scripture is there for you to see in black and white.

Stupidly you ask me to read the JW publications in Hebrew or French: sorry, you are LOST . Go find Jesus!
Who made the covenant name of God Jehovah?
Before the modern day JWs began, people have not heard or read of the name Jehovah?

Languages and Dialects Containing the Divine Name in the Main Text of the Christian Greek Scriptures

Language or Dialect: Divine Name
Aneityum: Ihova
Arawak: Jehovah
Awabakal: Yehóa
Bangi: Yawe
Batak (Toba): Jahowa
Benga: Jěhova
Bolia: Yawe
Bube: Yehovah
Bullom So: Jehovah
Chácobo: Jahué
Cherokee: Yihowa
Chin (Hakha): Zahova
Chippewa: Jehovah
Choctaw: Chihowa
Chuukese: Jiowa
Croatian: Jehova
Dakota: Jehowa
Dobu: Ieoba
Douala: Yehowa
Dutch: Jehovah
Efate (North): Yehova
Efik: Jehovah
English: Jehovah
Éwé: Yehowa
Fang: Jehôva
Fijian: Jiova
French: IHVH, yhwh
Ga: Iehowa
German: Jehovah; Jehova
Gibario (dialect of Kerewo): Iehova
Grebo: Jehova
Hawaiian: Iehova
Hebrew: יהוה
Hindustani: Yihováh
Hiri Motu: Iehova
Ho-Chunk (Winnebago): Jehowa
Ila: Yaave
Iliku (dialect of Lusengo): Yawe
Indonesian: YAHWEH
Kala Lagaw Ya: Iehovan
Kalanga: Yehova; Yahwe
Kalenjin: Jehovah
Kerewo: Iehova
Kiluba: Yehova
Kipsigis: Jehoba
Kiribati: Iehova
Kisonge: Yehowa
Korean: 여호와
Kosraean: Jeova
Kuanua: Ieova
Laotian: Yehowa
Lele: Jehova
Lewo: Yehova
Lingala: Yawe
Logo: Yehova
Lomongo: Yawe; Yova
Lonwolwol: Jehovah
Lugbara: Yehova
Luimbi: Yehova
Luna: Yeoba
Lunda: Yehova
Luo: Yawe
Luvale: Yehova
Malagasy: Jehovah; Iehôvah
Malo: Iova
Marquesan: Iehova
Marshallese: Jeova
Maskelynes: Iova
Mentawai: Jehoba
Meriam: Iehoua
Misima-Paneati: Iehova
Mizo: Jehovan; Jihova’n
Mohawk: Yehovah
Mortlockese: Jioua
Motu: Iehova
Mpongwe (dialect of Myene): Jehova
Muskogee: Cehofv
Myene: Yeôva
Naga, Angami: Jihova
Naga, Konyak: Jihova
Naga, Lotha: Jihova
Naga, Mao: Jihova
Naga, Northern Rengma: Jihova
Naga, Sangtam: Jihova
Nandi: Jehova
Narrinyeri: Jehovah
Nauruan: Jehova
Navajo: Jîho’vah
Ndau: Jehova
Nembe: Jehovah
Nengone (or, Maré): Iehova
Ngando: Yawe
Ntomba: Yawe
Nukuoro: Jehova
Polish: Jehowa
Portuguese: Iáhve
Rarotongan: Jehova; Iehova
Rerep: Iova
Rotuman: Jihova
Sakao: Ihova; Iehova
Samoan: Ieova
Seneca: Ya’wĕn
Sengele: Yawe
Sesotho: Yehofa
Sie: Iehōva
Spanish: Jehová; Yahvé; YHWH; Yahweh
Sranantongo: Jehova
Sukuma: Yahuwa; Jakwe
Tahitian: Iehova
Teke-Eboo: Yawe
Temne: Yehṓfa; Yehofa
Thai: Yahowa
Toaripi: Jehova; Iehova
Tonga: Jehova
Tongan: Jihova; Sihova
Tshiluba: Yehowa
Tswana: Jehofa; Yehova; Yehofa
Umbundu: Yehova
Uripiv: Iova
Wampanoag: Jehovah
Welsh: Iehofah
Xhosa: Yehova
Zande: Yekova
Zulu: Jehova; YAHWE
Re: JW 024 Noble Minded Beroians, What Helped Them? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:12pm On Jun 24, 2024
Today many just swallow whatever they hear hook, line and sinker but then they don't know how to use what they believe to make disciples so they only use it to argue fruitlessly! smiley
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