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DeusXmachina:
Didn't really say placebo cures diseases, I only gave an example with the alleviation of symptoms such as headaches to demonstrate some of the effects of believing something and feeling of wellness. However I did primarily say general optimism does have positive effects on health outcomes. I made these points to demonstrate that I think a person can genuinely report feeling better after something like prayer, but I attribute these to the mind.

Again tho these are your claims, understand that I have no personal reason to believe you and you're evidently not an unbiased observer giving me a retelling.

It's at least good the child is doing alright.
I wouldn't blame a mother for not having documentation as she wouldn't be involved in a debate of proving the power of prayer here because that would be strange, and rather she'd just be more worried about her kid and doing what she believes is right for the child. Neither would I really blame you if it was a spur of the moment thing and you genuinely believe you're helping people by it.

However discussing anecdotes of the supernatural's existence and effects such as healing untreated illness can only go so far, what is needed is hard verifiable data, not stories. Let's not forget about the existence of actual con men that stage things and lie for attention or profit.

Like wouldn't it be awesome if someone was medically diagnosed with brain cancer, and we had that verifiable documentation, and the person went to church and had prayer, only to go back to a hospital and get checked again and we find the cancer gone with no medical treatment and we also have verifiable documentation of that also for example?
It wouldn't be complete proof for specific claims as there are some unaccounted variables, but it would be a genuine start to changing a skeptical mind. At least it would make me reexamine my current beliefs.

I do not expect you to believe me and I do not think you should expect me to believe you either. You cannot say categorically that all healings are a product of some alterations in the mind. I have given you a reason to research deeper into your current beliefs. All those who come for healings have doctors reports regarding their ailments. Pastors don't ask for such reports before laying hands on people. This is the reason why people like you could doubt such healings until you have a personal experience.

FxMasterz:
∆ ....Keep deceiving yourself. It was Jesus that tod us the SIGNS that identifies Believers. Do you know what the word 'Signs' mean?

I had to skip through much of the hogwash to get to the koko which is that Jesus Christ, for you, is a name behind which you hide your particular ideas and nothing more.

jaephoenix:
Are you also aware Muslims and other religions have testimonies like these? That means their gods are legit too. And if theirs is legit, yours is fake cos there could be only one god

My God has proven Himself in divers ways. You see, the Egyptian Magicians too performed miracles but the rod of Moses swallowed up theirs when they were turned to serpents, and infact their so called miracles have limits.

See, they have their rocks but they themselves know that their rock is not like our ROCK.

Deuteronomy 32:31
"For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges."

What we do by simply issuing commands in the name of Jesus, they do by engaging themselves in lengthy incantations and rituals after spending days gathering fetish materials for a miracle that never lasts.

Are you saying your Jesus will approve lying if someone lied against you so you too should lie against the liar?

FxMasterz:
He was the first to make a false claim.

I had to accuse him in return so that people who read our conversations would know it is a troll and not a real accusation. If I didn't accuse him in return, his accusations would be a false tag on my personality. Wisdom demands that I convert his false accusations into a trolling conversation. Otherwise I would be called what I'm not.

FxMasterz:
Liar! Criminal!

Give me my money!!
I'll soon arrest you. Just wait and see.

Talktalk2022 is a notorious scammer bro. He has scammed so many people on Nairaland. He scammed me of 200k. Run away from him. He has other monikers.

So you LIED against him too making both of you LIARS, right?

MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying your Jesus will approve lying if someone lied against you so you too should lie against the liar?





So you LIED against him too making both of you LIARS, right?

Anyone who takes obvious trolling as a serious conversation really needs help. Converting the conversation to a trolling conversation with all the evidences of trolling written all over the threads does not make me a liar.

FxMasterz:
Anyone who takes obvious trolling as a serious conversation really needs help. Converting the conversation to a trolling conversation with all the evidences of trolling written all over the threads does not make me a liar.

You mean by saying:

FxMasterz:
Liar! Criminal!

Give me my money!!
I'll soon arrest you. Just wait and see.

Talktalk2022 is a notorious scammer bro. He has scammed so many people on Nairaland. He scammed me of 200k. Run away from him. He has other monikers.

You're just TROLLING shey?

Kobojunkie:
I had to skip through much of the hogwash to get to the koko which is that Jesus Christ, for you, is a name behind which you hide your particular ideas and nothing more.

That best describes you. Again, what does the word 'Sign' mean? What signs did Jesus say would follow believers?

MaxInDHouse:
You mean by saying:



You're just TROLLING shey?

If he didn't first say it, would I have had any reason to defend myself?

If a murderer points a gun at you and you point a gun at the murderer to deter him, does that make you a murderer? Do you really have a sense of justice to have been asking me these questions even when you're aware I apologized to him?

FxMasterz:
If he didn't first say it, would I have had any reason to defend myself?
If a murderer points a gun at you and you point a gun at the murderer to deter him, does that make you a murderer?

I don't know him and i don't care to know him but my concern is you who has been following my thread claiming you're a child of God.

Back to the question:

Are you saying he lied against you and that's why you also turned to a liar?

MaxInDHouse:
I don't know him and i don't care to know him but my concern is you who has been following my thread claiming you're a child of God.

Back to the question:

Are you saying he lied against you and that's why you also turned to a lie?

Go back and read my previous responses.

FxMasterz:
Go back and read my previous responses.

You claimed the guy LIED against you making him a LIAR so you too LIED against him in return making you too a LIA....... right ?

MaxInDHouse:
You claimed the guy LIED against you making him a LIAR so you too LIED against him in return making you too a LIA....... right ?

Let me teach you wisdom. The Bible says a good name is better than riches. The guy lied and I trolled him for his lies, does that make me a liar?

I'm sure you're not a wise man, so I'll teach you some wisdom using an experience I had as a youth.

Many years ago while I was still a young chap. I visited a shop owner whom I owed some money which passed the promised repayment date. I apologized and gave her a new repayment date. I then gently told her that I didn't like the fact that he told people that I was owing her when she knew I have never owed her except on that occasion. She got angry and started abusing me. I told her that I can't join her in such nonsense exchange of words. As I was leaving, she started shouting 'Ole!!!!' at me. People came out thinking there was a real thief to lynch. I saw people coming out with dangerous things. I immediately started shouting 'Ole!!!' at her too. We both were shouting at each other. The people became confused and then understood that it was a passing disagreement between the two of us. That saved my life that day. It was just the wisdom of God. If it were to be you who found yourself in such a situation, only God can tell what your state would have been today.

You conveniently left the false accuser to attack someone who was defending his name. Hypocrite.

You're fond of trolling on my thread with Ex-jws ever ready to join them in whatever they tell you using your sense to figure out why they are always complaining about the religion they left instead of getting over it and finding a better one doesn't make sense to you then but now that i'm exposing you as not worthy of being called a disciple of Christ you want to cry!

No disciple of Christ will allow anyone to stain him no matter what they think, say or do we maintain our lane.

Stupidity has her children just as Wisdom also has her children but the difference between Wisdom and Stupidity is that the children of Wisdom can only be accused by the children of Stupidity, Wisdom will always be justified by her own children! Luke 7:35

FxMasterz:
Let me teach you wisdom. The Bible says a good name is better than riches. The guy LIED and I TROLLED LIED back at him for his lies, does that make me a liar?

The highlighted shows the type of person you are!

Calling his false accusation a LIE but when you also falsely accuse him you called it TROLL.

Why not call both TROLL or LIE?

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted shows the type of person you are!

Calling his false accusation a LIE but when you also falsely accuse him you called it TROLL.

Why not call both TROLL or LIE?

Your response shows the type of person you are! Undermining my right to personal defence.

Tell me what you'll do if it happens to you? Let's hear from you!

FxMasterz:
Your response shows the type of person you are! Undermining my right to personal defence. Tell me what you'll do if it happens to you? Let's hear from you!

If i'm doing my business and i know there's nothing to hide as it's legit whoever accuses me of fraud is killing himself because i will continue to turn everything into a joke.

Jesus said:

"I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him" Matthew 5:39

So as you've known me on this forum i don't go about accusing anyone to counter their accusations i just crack jokes with whatever they say that's untrue.

Do you now see why i don't bother responding to trolls when you're calling me to respond after telling you their accusations are false?

MaxInDHouse:
If i'm doing my business and i know there's nothing to hide as it's legit whoever accuses me of fraud is killing himself because i will continue to turn everything into a joke.

Jesus said:

"I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him" Matthew 5:39

So as you've known me on this forum i don't go about accusing anyone to counter their accusations i just crack jokes with whatever they say that's untrue.

Do you now see why i don't bother responding to trolls when you're calling me to respond after telling you their accusations are false?

I don't think you would continue to joke when the false accuser keeps up the tempo and refuses to relent in spite of your jokes.

I have not seen you joking with anyone here. Bring examples.

I have apologized to him. So, rest the matter.

FxMasterz:
I don't think you would continue to joke when the false accuser keeps up the tempo and refuses to relent in spite of your jokes.
I have not seen you joking with anyone here. Bring examples.
I have apologized to him. So, rest the matter.

Please don't give me the impression that you love lying even after being caught.

How many times have you and your friends called me names on this forum simply because i keep posting you guys for accusing me for my faith?

If you have apologized to him despite accusing you falsely what about me that you also accused falsely for asking you?

FxMasterz:
Scammer Maxindhouse aka Maximus692, I'll show everyone here now that you're a real scammer. A devil and a bloody criminal. You know fully well that I didn't edit Oteneaaron's comment. Instead you were the one who edited it to paint me in black colours. God will judge you and your generation. You bloody son of the devil.
I have included a full screenshot of Oteneaaron's comment here for everyone to see that the devil reigns in your heart, and by extension, in your organization.
SCAMMER Maxindhouse, aka maximus692, I'l now come fully loaded for you.
I'll be patiently waiting for your next mischievous and devilish comment. You're not a child or God. You're a son of the devil.

What exactly did i do to deserve this?
And what did i do afterwards if not joking?

MaxInDHouse:
Please don't give me the impression that you love lying even after being caught.

How many times have you and your friends called me names on this forum simply because i keep posting you guys for accusing me for my faith?

If you have apologized to him despite accusing you falsely what about me that you also accused falsely for asking you?

I have never called you names. You're the one who have called me names several times on this forum. I also have it on record that you called someone Asínwín, mad man, etc. The person actually reported you with screenshot evidence.

I accused you because you first accused me without verifying anything. I trolled you too. Should I also accuse you of lying against me as that other fellow did?

Anyway, I am for peace. And the kingdom of God is my goal. If I have offended you in any way, I apologize. This would be the second time of my apology I think. I did the first time during the arbitration thread, and now again.

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly did i do to deserve this?
And what did i do afterwards if not joking?

No you didn't joke. You persisted in the false accusations. You first started it and I responded with the above.

Nevertheless, I have apologized a second time. How many apologies do you want from me?

FxMasterz:
No you didn't joke. You persisted in the false accusations. You first started it and I responded with the above. Nevertheless, I have apologized a second time. How many apologies do you want from me?

If you apologize for anything then try to play smart next time not to make the same mistake again.
Your apology can only make sense if you think before you talk it's not everything people say that you jump into thinking it's time to follow the crowd in accusing people who never wronged you in anyway!

FxMasterz:
I have it on record that you called someone Asínwín, mad man

The person i called ASÍNWÍN, AṢIWÈRÈ, MAD didn't even accuse me back then but he failed to answer the easiest question anyone on this thread could answer.

That's what quantify him to be a madman.

That record i'm proud to present to anyone on this forum of course he knew i have a strong point on that that's why he kept following me up and down the forum trying to retaliate but i knew it really hit him hard!

MaxInDHouse:
If you apologize for anything then try to play smart next time not to make the same mistake again.
Your apology can only make sense if you think before you talk it's not everything people say that you jump into thinking it's time to follow the crowd in accusing people who never wronged you in anyway!

What accusation did I give you in the first place? We were discussing doctrinal issues and matters relating to your organization. The presenters brought proofs. I called your attention on every single occasion to defend your position. Instead of clarifying matters you decided to call me stupid, fool, dense, mumu, etc. What have I done wrong?

FxMasterz:
What accusation did I give you in the first place? We were discussing doctrinal issues and matters relating to your organization. The presenters brought proofs. I called your attention on every single occasion to defend your position. Instead of clarifying matters you decided to call me stupid, fool, dense, mumu, etc. What have I done wrong?

Did you call me devil's child and liar for having a different belief?

If you do then you're stupid, dense, foolish and mumu because there are thousands of different sects out there with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines whatever makes them have different beliefs means all of them are lying until you can present the only religion having the truth.
Failure to do so makes you a fool!

FxMasterz:
My God has proven Himself in divers ways. You see, the Egyptian Magicians too performed miracles but the rod of Moses swallowed up theirs when they were turned to serpents, and infact their so called miracles have limits.

See, they have their rocks but they themselves know that their rock is not like our ROCK.

Deuteronomy 32:31
"For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges."

What we do by simply issuing commands in the name of Jesus, they do by engaging themselves in lengthy incantations and rituals after spending days gathering fetish materials for a miracle that never lasts.

Tell your god to turn another stick to snake on live TV.

MaxInDHouse:
Did you call me devil's child and liar for having a different belief?

If you do then you're stupid, dense, foolish and mumu because there are thousands of different sects out there with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines whatever makes them have different beliefs means all of them are lying until you can present the only religion having the truth.
Failure to do so makes you a fool!

Okay.

The reason why your organization is fake is that you created a religion when Jesus created none.

MaxInDHouse:
The person i called ASÍNWÍN, AṢIWÈRÈ, MAD didn't even accuse me back then but he failed to answer the easiest question anyone on this thread could answer.

That's what quantify him to be a madman.

That record i'm proud to present to anyone on this forum of course he knew i have a strong point on that that's why he kept following me up and down the forum trying to retaliate but i knew it really hit him hard!

So, you're proud of calling a man such high level of abusive names because he couldn't answer a supposed question? Isn't it? But make a big deal out of someone who trolled another for falsely accusing him.

That's a vivid example of what you would have dobe if you were in my shoes. You would have done much more than that! You're even proud of the evil you did, while I went ahead to apologize. Yet you have the guts to keep pestering me on the same issue?

FxMasterz:
Okay.
The reason why your organization is fake is that you created a religion when Jesus created none.

You LIED!
The whole world regard meeting together and worshiping RELIGION.
So say something else!

FxMasterz:
So, you're proud of calling a man such high level of abusive names because he couldn't answer a supposed question? Isn't it? But make a big deal out of someone who trolled another for falsely accusing him.

That's a vivid example of what you would have dobe if you were in my shoes. You would have done much more than that! You're even proud of the evil you did, while I went ahead to apologize. Yet you have the guts to keep pestering me on the same issue?

I am a CHRISTIAN remember?
Jesus proudly abused religionists calling them FOOLS but he never LIED against anyone saying he's just TROLLING.

MaxInDHouse:
I am a CHRISTIAN remember?
Jesus proudly abused religionists calling them FOOLS but he never LIED against anyone saying he's just TROLLING.

Neither have I ever lied against anyone saying I'm just trolling.

'I'm just trolling' is different from "I converted the false allegation into a trolling conversation in self defense."

By attributing the word 'I'm just trolling' to me, you just lied! I never said so.

MaxInDHouse:
You LIED!
The whole world regard meeting together and worshiping RELIGION.
So say something else!

Yes, that's the world. No true Christian practices religion and calls himself the only one practicing some true religion. No true Christian talks like that. Leave that to the world.